safely overclocking the 8125? - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

i just got this phone and upgraded from an sx66, and i have converted alot of videos to play on the sx66. i encoded them in wmv format at 320x240 res at 340 bitrate and they played flawlessly on it, but on this phone it cant even play it at an acceptable rate. however, if i overclock it to 200+ it runs fine, but im worried that using it for an extended amount of time could harm the device, and i dont make alotta money so i cant risk burning it up. can anyone help me out on this issue, or even offer alternatives to faster video players or better ways to encode?

People on these forums usually overclock safely at 240mhz through omap, which is 260mhz truespeed. My 8125 is overclocked at 252mhz through omap. It runs fine with me. It's only soft resetted on me once. Oh yeah, and it dosen't suck up my battery either.

what do you mean when you say truespeed? and keeping it overclocked won't damage it?

I'm with the 240mghz crowd. It seems to be a good speed. It gives a boost in over all speed, yet is still stable.
No, it won't damage anything.

Overclockign
Which software are you using to overclock?

I use Omap Clock Plus, can be found as freeware on this forum. Works great. I have been using 240mhz, and haven't had any problems. And I leave it on the whole time I've installed it.

I o/c to 240mhz as well. It works fine for me without lockign up or resetting. Im sure you've noticed that every time you come out of standby, you go back to the regular clockspeed. I use the program "smartskey" to keep it overclocked every time i come out of standby. In my opinion everyone smartskey is the most important addon for the wizard. Makes it much more useable in every way.

When you say "TrueSpeed" do you mean this is the actual speed of the proc?
Does that omap clock thingy (The command line one) clock to true speed?
If I tell it to go to 260 by command line, what speed is it actually running at?

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XCPUScalar 2004 2.6

Hello,
Has anyone tried using XCPUScalar? There is a new version available released today. I'd just like to know your comments if it's worth it, and if this type of application is safe to use.
Poch
I use v2.53 which seems very stable.
I'm not sure how good it is at over-clocking and the real difference this makes yo the XDA's useability.
However, the fact that it can reduce CPU speed depending on need, and therefore extend battery life is quite useful.
From the release notes for 2.6, there are a couple of improvements I'd welcome, such as the ability to set the speed on boot rather than revert to default.
Is it stable...? Did it hardreset anyone?
Last time I tried to overclock a PDA was with one of my Ipaqs... it hard reset... and I never did it again...
Can someone give me enough reasurance to try this new piece of SW?
Thanks,
Chris
started using xcpu scalar last night, and i gotta say, its incredible!
got my xda2 running at 530mhz at the moment
before that i used to use pocket hack master, and was good, but complicated,* plus my xda2 would only run stable at 528mhz*
so i got 2mhz extra lol! ;-)
i highly recomend!!
Thank you!
But... how do you know up till what point is stable... and at what point it hardresets? How do you know you could push it to 530 rather than 500 or 700? You push it until it crashes? You get a warning message?
Sorry if the question is a bit naive :roll:
Thanks,
Chris
The maximum stable frequency for xda2 is 472-530 Mhz.
Where 472 has more benefits in stability and fatest memory clock.
Mine runs good on 530 in Os menu,but freezes instantly in hard processing soft..like Quake,WmPlayer.(it is also like to anaylze if some programs are running in background and don't support these frequencies)
Note: some application like Camera are more sensitive than others to overclocked fr. but personally I did only encontered benefits in Camera app with more fps.
A benchmark reported that in same cases better performance is on 400mhz and 472 max. (on xda2)
Faster overclock will only degrade your performance,but you can try it.. at least you will have to Soft-Reset or Hard-Reset your device,so backu-up first all your data.
aikon359 said:
started using xcpu scalar last night, and i gotta say, its incredible!
got my xda2 running at 530mhz at the moment
before that i used to use pocket hack master, and was good, but complicated,* plus my xda2 would only run stable at 528mhz*
so i got 2mhz extra lol! ;-)
i highly recomend!!
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There is no 2mhz extra,the real freq. is 528 but approx. to 530
Also Hack Master is recommende for more professional use,because it offer many options like no other overclock application.
I am sure you are interested to read the overclock results:
http://www.mtekk.com.au/browse/page729.html
Regards,
Ser

Overclocking TyTn

Hey i noticed u guys talking about overclocking the TyTn. Is this true? Can we overclock? I like to check how much we can speed it up. Man, if we go any faster, it will be like having a laptop in our pockets. Please let me know if there are noticeable difference and how much you can overclock the TyTn.
I am currently overclocking with xcpuscalar. I believe you can also overclock using pocket hackmaster. I am oc'ing to 472, although it is perfectly stable at 500. I wish I could the damn autoscale to work properly but it keeps shutting itself off.
Does the TyTn feel any faster when overcloked?
Have you run any benchmarks comparing the affects?
I haven't run any benchmarks. And honestly it doesn't feel any faster. It already fly's. I rarely have it bog down.
nickcerda said:
I am currently overclocking with xcpuscalar. I believe you can also overclock using pocket hackmaster. I am oc'ing to 472, although it is perfectly stable at 500. I wish I could the damn autoscale to work properly but it keeps shutting itself off.
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Part of that may be that XCPUScalar is designed for the Intel XScale family of processors. Someone I know tried Hackmaster but it didn't work very well. He posted to Anton Tomov's website about the issue on the TyTN's Samsung processor.
JNGold said:
nickcerda said:
I am currently overclocking with xcpuscalar. I believe you can also overclock using pocket hackmaster. I am oc'ing to 472, although it is perfectly stable at 500. I wish I could the damn autoscale to work properly but it keeps shutting itself off.
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Part of that may be that XCPUScalar is designed for the Intel XScale family of processors. Someone I know tried Hackmaster but it didn't work very well. He posted to Anton Tomov's website about the issue on the TyTN's Samsung processor.
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XCPUScalar seems to work fine at 500. Tried Hackmaster too, but
its froze my TyTN. Working autoscale would be sweet thou.
Gotta try and find some benchmarking programs to compare the speeds.
Any suggestions for a good one?
Must be working thou, since setting the processor to 100, makes the device very very slow.
Hmm, it seems XCPUScalar is faking the speeds, it works when "underclocking" but not when overcloking.
Cant try with pocket hack master, since it frozes up with any speed I try to test.
Has anyone been able to overclock the Samsung CPU yet? XCPUScalar doesn't seem to be working correctly as it was designed for XScale or TI OMAP... not the Samsung CPU.

Speedbooster and your Diamond will fly!!

Hi to all, I would share with you my experience with this software:
http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=speedbooster
just installed on my Diamond, and now everything runs smoother and faster!!
I don't know exactly how it works but I must say that it's amazing!
I didn't notice any difference ... :/
Thanks Diego,
I will play around with it this to compare the before and after.
give us a screenshot with the settings that you made so we can try them, I didn't notice any difference either...
diego1810 said:
Hi to all, I would share with you my experience with this software:
http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=speedbooster
just installed on my Diamond, and now everything runs smoother and faster!!
I don't know exactly how it works but I must say that it's amazing!
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Yes, it makes a difference for my diamond too.
I'm using the settings shown on their forum:
Code:
increase gwes.exe for overall drawing speed
increase targetapp.exe to make it run smoother
change target app to the process you use most, like browser or game.
Does this app have any impact on Battery?
xavierdemon said:
Does this app have any impact on Battery?
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overclocking usually kills the battery but diamond microprocessor cant be overcloced... i dont understand very well what does this app do to the device....
i am gonna try it... the posted one is trial 5 days.
It does not overclock the diamond CPU as so far it is not possible, i have CPU benchmarked before and after to prove this and it is no different.
I also do not notice any performance difference from this software, but that may be due to running duttys rom which already includes many performance tweaks.
I installed the trial and maybe I was being paranoid but my battery levels were just dropping more than normal and I wasn't even using the phone . Didn't notice any improvement on the phone either while I had a quick play.
Speedbooster uninstalled.
Speedbooster - Does it work??
Well... I downloaded the 5 day trial but the trial is limited to only partially tweaking/enhancing aspects of the Diamond.
But in saying that I noticed some apps refreshing faster. At almost 15 Euro's I am not game enough to buy this program to see if it works. Our poor Australian dollar would make this program as expensive as 9 BigMacs (without fries!) or half a tank of petrol.
I have tried so many tweaking programs and my conclusion is that if you want your Diamond to run faster wait for future models with a faster processor than the now old & slow Qualcomm 528Mhz. I read that 600 Mhz to 1 Ghz processors are coming.
I would certainly give up my 9 BigMacs for a faster CPU. Only with that will we see a real speed boost in our HTC's!!!
Aussie
correct me if I am wrong but doesnt changing the Pagepool do the same?
anyway all we are talking about here is a milliseconds in time difference.
Are we that time poor that we cant wait 0.5 second for an app to load?
The diamond has its limitations & i would say after a year or so of tweaking the ROMs & all the apps that we have just about reached that limitation.
sounds like a scam to me
No much good reactions, thats sad, i hoped this program would be a nice add-on to our Diamond.
Yeah, just lets wait on new phones with a decent processor, 1 Ghz would be awesome, i'm sure they are will coming very soon
aussie1234 said:
Well... I downloaded the 5 day trial but the trial is limited to only partially tweaking/enhancing aspects of the Diamond.
But in saying that I noticed some apps refreshing faster. At almost 15 Euro's I am not game enough to buy this program to see if it works. Our poor Australian dollar would make this program as expensive as 9 BigMacs (without fries!) or half a tank of petrol.
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it tried a full cracked version and didnt like it. after a lot of benchmarks i didnt notice any difference...
Ι also used ful verison, to my custom rom, and turn to full gwes.exe and manila2.exe . The diference is very big. I didnt expected it. I dont know if the same will happen to original rom version . (I dont think there is manila2.exe to the original rom)
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Ι also used ful verison, to my custom rom, and turn to full gwes.exe and manila2.exe . The diference is very big. I didnt expected it. I dont know if the same will happen to original rom version . (I dont think there is manila2.exe to the original rom)
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Yeah its the same for me. Speedbooster makes some apps run much faster.
Strange thing is that the benchmark result is usually the same. This might be a good thing - meaning that the CPU speed remains the same, but it just gives more power to some specific app instead of another. Actually this is exactly what I want:
I don't care about the stupid OS doing stupid things, but I DO CARE about my GPS or webbrowser - and here this proggie seems to give a useful hand.
I agree about the price, is a bit expensive, but at least it works
About the price...
You can get it for free on the developer's website, it's some kind of promotion, you only need to install it, run a benchmark with the built in tool, and post your score:
http://teksoftco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2011
hurry up, I don't know how much it will last!
How it works.
It modifies the process priority similarly to the task manager in windows.
It does other stuff too but that's basically what it does.
and what's the verdict ? does it speed up our Diamonds ? (i was testing it... and didn't notice any difference :/ )
It DOES have impact on performance.
Its very easy to test. Try to lower the system apps and services and you will se that the device run slower.
On TF3D its very clear the it makes it run faster/slower if you change the priority.
My opinion; It works...somehow.

[Q] overclock

Hii guys...i have raised this topic...several times in questions..page..but its left unanswered...so i deleted it...
I just wanted to know that i have installed a program "pocket hack master"..
has anybody used it...what speed should i use...to overclock..
Help me for this program...and to overclock
It is best to overclock using omapclock
I usually go for 256
OKay i appreciate your query. but this pblm/issue has already been dealt in detail.
<http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718633>
so basically its all about overclocking, whichever tool u use. i prefer omap tools. i have not used 'pocket hack master', so can't say anything about the software. but about overclocking: make urself clear, do you really need it? mind it, it boosts performance but you have to compromise your battery life and compatibility with programs like -- i can't run asphalt 4 when i overclock and definitely get fuzzy pictures from the camera.
now to try: don't try at higher rates at first. i had my fren's opal frozen and needed a hard reset. luckily it worked after that. 252, 264 and 276 all work for me. some people, i guess shreyas, had it upto 288. but STRONGLY RECOMMEND u don go to 288 straight. try stepwise. a day or two in one speed each. and you find the one in which ur device will be more stable. and blimey! stick to that.
FYI mine is stable (one or two auto resets every 3-4 days) at 276
hope this helped you provided a little more confidence.
any more help needed and u don get it, our registration is useless.
the audio often crash after overclocking. is there anyway to fix it?
Thanx guys i will use omap clock plus...

[Q] Overclocking Question?

Hello.
I have a general question I have been searching for on Google and the forum here. I am wondering if someone could tell me some areas that I will notice the benefits of overclocking. What I mean is, I understand it speeds up the CPU, but other than running a quadrant score (which means nothing to me really) where would you see the results to the naked eye?
Since flashing Lightspeed ROM and using Thor's Kernals it does appear that my internet pages load faster and the boot animations load faster. I think it seems like my thumb keyboards pop up a slight bit faster as well.
Are these the noticeable changes? Or are they just in my head since I am overclocking? (OR I think I am)
I am using SetCPU and have the Max set to about 1.5 and the Min set to 1.0 or 1.2 most of the time.
If someone could weigh in with some more knowledgeable information and possibly point me to a nice write up for Noobs like me who are interested in learning more about the benefits of Overclocking as well as maybe a guide for advice using SetCPU (or another App?) that is more recommended by those on here, I would appreciate it!
Thanks!!
Mine's takes about 30 seconds to boot from vibrate to lock screen if that makes any difference. OC to 1.5 using taboonay 2.0 with HV 3.4 kernal.
Mine defiantly seems to boot up faster. I do not play a lot of game on the tab, mainly just internet and movies, so I am not sure I am doing anything that would require such an increase in graphics speed that I am noticing the major differences. Right now I have mine set to about 1.4 and it is very stable with no problems. If I go to 1.6 I notice things start FC'ing more often.
HD playback has definitely improved since overclocking on 3.1, some 720p videos that suffered from random slow downs now play flawlessly with setcpu at 1.5 on performance mode, temps always stay below 35°c hours after being set to performance.
The rest is minor improvements.
SoHaunted said:
HD playback has definitely improved since overclocking on 3.1, some 720p videos that suffered from random slow downs now play flawlessly with setcpu at 1.5 on performance mode, temps always stay below 35°c hours after being set to performance.
The rest is minor improvements.
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Thanks. I will have to take a look at that tomorrow when I am stuck on the plane for a few hours.

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