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Question Regarding Ringtones

I was wondering if anyone could tell me how ringtones work on the phone devices. Specifically, I am wondering what could cause ringtones to stop functioning.
What's going on is that I've developed some software that is inadvertently blocking ringtones such that it takes a soft-reset to get them back. Even shutting down the program doesn't help. I've rewritten just about every line of code and I haven't been able to solve the issue.
I'm sure I could figure this out if the emulator supported ringtones (I don't have a phone device myself). but since it doesn't I'd really appreciate any help.
Thanks for your time.

read this like yesterday (responded to it too); not sure if it'll help you but it the chap seems to know how the ringers work. forgot to paste the threat address...but i do remember it's something like "mp3 as ringtone"...
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I have a XDA2 and want to use Pink Floyds Money as my ring tone. I have got this track on my SD card in a mp3 format but have not got a clue what to do. If anyone can help me I would be really gratefull. I will need step by step instructions. Email [email protected]
If you wanna be able to access and use music files (mp3 and wma format) located in your sd card as ringtones, you may also consider changing the registry setting. Here is the step by step advice
1. Install regedit in your device (in case you haven't had it yet)
2. Open the regedit and look for the following values
HEKY_CURRENT_USER/ControlPanel/SoundCategories/Ring
Then under Ring Folder -> tap Directory, you'll see that the default directory is set to be \Window\Ring. You can change that directory to your preference (e.g. \Storage Card\My Music\). Soft-reset the unit. At this stage, all music files in MP3 and WMA format can be accessed directly from the storage card
3. Go to Phone->Tools->Options->Ring tone, and select whatever song you prefer using a your ringer.
Note that evey time someone calls you, the device will locate the songs at the specified location (e.g. SD card) and hence the ability to play the ringer properly also depends on the speed at which the device and the SD card interact.
HTH,
Ken
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Ring Tones on Storage Card

I have changed the Directory string in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring to "\storage card\My Documents\Rings\"
and the phone now rings with the wav file in this directory on my storage card. Well some times it does. Other times it rings with Windows Default.wav (the DefaultRing String setting in the Ring file). Can I rename this string value (or delete it).
ps I know I'm playing with fire messing with the registry but we all have to learn somehow!

BTW Storage card gets turned off on low battery.

Most of the time the problem is due to the ringtone size
The problem you mentioned "ringtone at time goes back to default.wav" is likely due to the ringtone size. So far I haven't came across any workaround for that. The only recommendation I would think is, get a fast SD card or reduce your ringtone size.
Alternate chioce would be, install the "Big ROM" thing that's available on this forum. Then, download MTUX RingtoneX Version 2.1a (have to be version 2.1a!!!!) and set your ringtone folder to "Storage" instead of "Storage Card". Have fun.
cheers,
cyberjaya

Forgot to add...
What's the difference of using MTUX RingtoneX and changing the registry to "\storage card\My Documents\Rings\"?
Am not too sure if this happen for all XDA, irrelevance of which model it is. For mine case (Magician), the registry hack above will work. But if you look properly into your folder, you'll find a duplicate copy of ringtone files exists in "\windows\rings". It might be because I'm using MTUX all these while.
Had tried MTUX 2.1a version, now it won't replicate another copy of the ringtone files onto "\windows\rings". In other word, you save your storage space of the main memory.

Nope - don't have a duplicate copy in "windows\Rings". I've deleted everything from there. I will try a smaller file as a trial. The .wav file I'm using on my storage card (1.0 gb SanDisk Ultra II) is 478 kb. Like I said, sometimes the phone rings with this, sometimes with the default file.

Re: Most of the time the problem is due to the ringtone size
cyberjaya said:
The problem you mentioned "ringtone at time goes back to default.wav" is likely due to the ringtone size. So far I haven't came across any workaround for that. The only recommendation I would think is, get a fast SD card or reduce your ringtone size.
Alternate chioce would be, install the "Big ROM" thing that's available on this forum. Then, download MTUX RingtoneX Version 2.1a (have to be version 2.1a!!!!) and set your ringtone folder to "Storage" instead of "Storage Card". Have fun.
cheers,
cyberjaya
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What's the Big ROM thing? Ta

Rick GM said:
I have changed the Directory string in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring to "\storage card\My Documents\Rings\"
and the phone now rings with the wav file in this directory on my storage card. Well some times it does. Other times it rings with Windows Default.wav (the DefaultRing String setting in the Ring file). Can I rename this string value (or delete it).
ps I know I'm playing with fire messing with the registry but we all have to learn somehow!
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I have the same problem, even with a 66X SD card. :?
The ringtone played when the screen was already on, but if the call woke the PDA, the DefaultRing played instead.
I've just edited all my MP3 ring tones down to 40 secs, set them to mono @ 64kbps. This seems to have improved things so the MP3 plays instead of the default.

Any solutions for this problem ?
Any solutions for this problem ?

Beonfocus wrote
Any solutions for this problem ?
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Store the ring tone in memory - not the storage card

sd dont just get turned off when batt is low it gets turned off when the device is off
so when the device rings it dont have access to the sd card == no ring tone access

Solution !!!
IF you have big storage patch in your pocket, just transfer your ringtones
to STORAGE directory, i made it and it work very good.
i had the same problem and now it is work good !
thanks

MS$ Ringtones from WM6 or even 5 looking for cab

Am looking for Ringtones that came with Dopod official,, or Ringtones that came with other official Roms.. Did search, and see plenty of Custom ringtones being talked about. My Schaps rom seems to have only a small number of Ringtones, and for now don't want to custom make them. Thanks for any links or directions to cabs

stoker1 said:
Am looking for Ringtones that came with Dopod official,, or Ringtones that came with other official Roms.. Did search, and see plenty of Custom ringtones being talked about. My Schaps rom seems to have only a small number of Ringtones, and for now don't want to custom make them. Thanks for any links or directions to cabs
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These are the ringtones/notifications from the Dopod WM5 Rom (HER_DopodAsia_AUS_1.30.707.4_1.20.31.10_WWE_Ship.exe). They are not in an installable .cab or .exe format, but just copy them to the Windows directory on your phone.
I extracted them yesterday because I like the 'you got message' notification

New Ringtones added, problem seeing them in Phone Ringtones
I spent 2 hours looking at posts for placement of new Ringtones. Tried storage card root directory, tried storage card MyDocuments My Ringtones, tried putting them in Windows Root directory, and both .wav and .wma ringtones do not show up in my Phone Ringtones. Noticed that attributes on current Schaps ringtones in Windows directory show that they are in Rom,Windows directory. How can I get these new ones to be recognized? Seems like only ones in Rom might be recognized? By the way,, I had also done a registry change to change location to "Storage Card" instead of "Windows"

stoker1 said:
I spent 2 hours looking at posts for placement of new Ringtones. Tried storage card root directory, tried storage card MyDocuments My Ringtones, tried putting them in Windows Root directory, and both .wav and .wma ringtones do not show up in my Phone Ringtones. Noticed that attributes on current Schaps ringtones in Windows directory show that they are in Rom,Windows directory. How can I get these new ones to be recognized? Seems like only ones in Rom might be recognized? By the way,, I had also done a registry change to change location to "Storage Card" instead of "Windows"
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Sorry, Mine show up fine when I drop them in the Windows directory - but only when I use them as notifications.
To use as a ringtone, copy the file into the x:\My Windows Mobile-Based Device\Windows\Rings directory. I've just done this with one of mine and now appears as a ringtone.

stoker1 said:
I spent 2 hours looking at posts for placement of new Ringtones. Tried storage card root directory, tried storage card MyDocuments My Ringtones, tried putting them in Windows Root directory, and both .wav and .wma ringtones do not show up in my Phone Ringtones. Noticed that attributes on current Schaps ringtones in Windows directory show that they are in Rom,Windows directory. How can I get these new ones to be recognized? Seems like only ones in Rom might be recognized? By the way,, I had also done a registry change to change location to "Storage Card" instead of "Windows"
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Put them in \Windows\Rings (its a folder under the Windows Root directory) and they will show up

Bizarre,, just tried Ache2 and BigDede ideas for Ringtones
Tried both ideas, logical ideas,, and know it isn't brain surgery.. Must be something to with attributes of the .wma ans .wav files I am putting in. None of them show up!.. Thanks for your input..appreciate it,, will tinker around some more. This is absurd that I can't do this, after doing Roms,, and already fixing loose keyboard runner this should be a piece of cake.

Problem fixed.
Windows\Rings is the right place to put them, but ...
(a bit of suspence)
ringtones have the hidden flag checked so just uncheck it in property windows (Total Commander rules btw) and TADA they appear as ringtones.
Hope it works for everyone.

Thanks,,all ok now,, had to change properties....
I had it right,, but the check mark beside hidden,,which I thought was completely empty,, had this faint checkmark in there..I could barely see it . Finally realized that box wasn't completely unchecked. OK now. Now I am going to hunt for more sounds that go in the "Sounds" area in settings. I think I need more of a selection.

I can see the file in the Rings floder now but it didn't shown in the Ringtones list.
Please tell how to do step by step.
And what is the meaning of (TADA they appear as ringtones.)
pierpaolodf said:
Problem fixed.
Windows\Rings is the right place to put them, but ...
(a bit of suspence)
ringtones have the hidden flag checked so just uncheck it in property windows (Total Commander rules btw) and TADA they appear as ringtones.
Hope it works for everyone.
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Music Tab library fix

Well a lot of people noticed a problem with HTC Music tab. Library shows not only music but ring tones and other sounds. One way to stop it is to hide offending folders. One problem with that is if you hide for example ring tone folder you can not select your ring tones as they are hidden as well.
What I did is as goes. I have music on SD card, also there is tomtom, copilot and some other apps. I have hidden all of the apps that might have sounds so they do not show up in library. Obviously left folder with music not hidden.
That will take care of SD card.
For My Device sounds do steps below:
1. Start from removing your card and then going to music tab so it rescans and states no music found. (Skip to step 3 if you are starting from clean rom)
2. Go to registry editor of your choice and navigate to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng (for german it will be AudioManager_Ger)\Information
Delete all items in that folder. You will not be able to delete Information it self.
If you are on clean rom you will not even have that folder it is created 1st time when music tab finds music.
3. Navigate to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\Config
In there change:
"device_scan_path_path" from what ever there is to \Windows
"device_scan_path_path_0" from what ever there is to \Windows
"ring_tone_path" from what ever there is to \Windows
What this will do is exclude all files in windows folder. If you have any files in my documents they will show up. I assume if you just put "\" instead of "\Windows" it will exclude entire my device but did not test it.
4. Soft reset, insert your SD card and enjoy.

I have my mp3's on sd card: X:\music
Is it possible to set that only this folder is scanned?

"device_scan_path_path" from what ever there is to \Windows
"device_scan_path_path_0" from what ever there is to \Windows
"ring_tone_path" from what ever there is to \Windows
I am wondering if doing this on just the ring tone path will do... essentially excluding the whole windows folder?
One of these device scan path should be for the SD Card.... if so, it would be great cause then we can exclude the program files for stuff like games installed on the SD card...

eskasi said:
"device_scan_path_path" from what ever there is to \Windows
"device_scan_path_path_0" from what ever there is to \Windows
"ring_tone_path" from what ever there is to \Windows
I am wondering if doing this on just the ring tone path will do... essentially excluding the whole windows folder?
One of these device scan path should be for the SD Card.... if so, it would be great cause then we can exclude the program files for stuff like games installed on the SD card...
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Did not work for me. I had to change all to windows. I am thinking that if I were to exclude entire my device by putting just \ it would also exclude storage card as that appears as one of folders.
On my sd card I have hidden tomtom and it's maps so no sounds from there show up.
Did not find anywhere option to only scan selected folder, there is only option to select what not to scan and you only have one entry.
Oh yes one more device scan path is my documents by default and folder to exclude is my documents\my ringtones yet all ringtones from windows folder where showing up. Obviously device scan path does not work exactly as expected.

Bence said:
I have my mp3's on sd card: X:\music
Is it possible to set that only this folder is scanned?
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In short no, or not that I know off. HTC did it from cats end just like htc album folder. Instead of letting us select what folders to add in registry you have to edit what folders not to scan. However in album you can have more then one entry in music tab you can not.
I must add that since I edited that registry entry I have no ring tones at all in my music tab.

You are a star! Thank you for this... I can use this to sort out my wife's phone too!
Thanks for the easy to understand tutorial!

"device_scan_path_path" from what ever there is to \Windows
"device_scan_path_path_0" from what ever there is to \Windows
"ring_tone_path" from what ever there is to \Windows
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It works for me but isnt the meaning of "device scan path" normally the path where music is stored?
Im just a bit confused about it.
Wouldnt it be enough to state the first link to sd card?
Correct me if im wrong but i understand that the first shortcut goes to the path where music should be searched in.
The second i understand as the path where NOT to search.
And the third exists just to make sure the ringtones arent added.
Just for the understanding for me.
It works like a charm tho. And thats most important part in here

dameon12 said:
It works for me but isnt the meaning of "device scan path" normally the path where music is stored?
Im just a bit confused about it.
Wouldnt it be enough to state the first link to sd card?
Correct me if im wrong but i understand that the first shortcut goes to the path where music should be searched in.
The second i understand as the path where NOT to search.
And the third exists just to make sure the ringtones arent added.
Just for the understanding for me.
It works like a charm tho. And thats most important part in here
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I 100% agree with you it makes no sense what so ever. It seems that instead of dong it the normal way where you point what to scan they did it hte othe way around where you point what not to scan.

Receive bluetooth files directly to SD card.Tested and working on WM 6.1

So I have been around here for a small bit of time leeching and I just thought I should share this registry tweak I found.
I tried the various available apps for changing the location where files received by bluetooth are saved but none of them seemed to work with my phone(mogul WM 6.1),
googling around there seemed to be consensus that there was really no solution or fix for this(more so for WM 6.1 phones)
The trick
It's quite simple actually:
-With a registry editor(am personally using total commander) go to:
\HKLM\System\Explorer\Shell Folders\
-Once there,Navigate down to the 'My Documents' key
-Double click on it and edit the string as follows:
\SD Card\My Documents\
i.e add the name of your memory card(mine is 'SD Card') before the \My Documents\.Do not forget about the \
that comes before the memory card name( i.e \SD Card).
-Exit the registry and with whatever file explorer you have,rename the default 'My Documents' folder on your phone to something else like 'Dox'
-Restart the phone.
If all goes well,when you receive files via bluetooth,they should be found in the root directory of the memory card.
Hope those developers who have been working on this,use this info to develop an app that will actually work on all WM 6.1 phones.

Thanks for this tip. What else changes, though?