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Question Regarding Ringtones

I was wondering if anyone could tell me how ringtones work on the phone devices. Specifically, I am wondering what could cause ringtones to stop functioning.
What's going on is that I've developed some software that is inadvertently blocking ringtones such that it takes a soft-reset to get them back. Even shutting down the program doesn't help. I've rewritten just about every line of code and I haven't been able to solve the issue.
I'm sure I could figure this out if the emulator supported ringtones (I don't have a phone device myself). but since it doesn't I'd really appreciate any help.
Thanks for your time.

read this like yesterday (responded to it too); not sure if it'll help you but it the chap seems to know how the ringers work. forgot to paste the threat address...but i do remember it's something like "mp3 as ringtone"...
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I have a XDA2 and want to use Pink Floyds Money as my ring tone. I have got this track on my SD card in a mp3 format but have not got a clue what to do. If anyone can help me I would be really gratefull. I will need step by step instructions. Email [email protected]
If you wanna be able to access and use music files (mp3 and wma format) located in your sd card as ringtones, you may also consider changing the registry setting. Here is the step by step advice
1. Install regedit in your device (in case you haven't had it yet)
2. Open the regedit and look for the following values
HEKY_CURRENT_USER/ControlPanel/SoundCategories/Ring
Then under Ring Folder -> tap Directory, you'll see that the default directory is set to be \Window\Ring. You can change that directory to your preference (e.g. \Storage Card\My Music\). Soft-reset the unit. At this stage, all music files in MP3 and WMA format can be accessed directly from the storage card
3. Go to Phone->Tools->Options->Ring tone, and select whatever song you prefer using a your ringer.
Note that evey time someone calls you, the device will locate the songs at the specified location (e.g. SD card) and hence the ability to play the ringer properly also depends on the speed at which the device and the SD card interact.
HTH,
Ken
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Ring Tones on Storage Card

I have changed the Directory string in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring to "\storage card\My Documents\Rings\"
and the phone now rings with the wav file in this directory on my storage card. Well some times it does. Other times it rings with Windows Default.wav (the DefaultRing String setting in the Ring file). Can I rename this string value (or delete it).
ps I know I'm playing with fire messing with the registry but we all have to learn somehow!

BTW Storage card gets turned off on low battery.

Most of the time the problem is due to the ringtone size
The problem you mentioned "ringtone at time goes back to default.wav" is likely due to the ringtone size. So far I haven't came across any workaround for that. The only recommendation I would think is, get a fast SD card or reduce your ringtone size.
Alternate chioce would be, install the "Big ROM" thing that's available on this forum. Then, download MTUX RingtoneX Version 2.1a (have to be version 2.1a!!!!) and set your ringtone folder to "Storage" instead of "Storage Card". Have fun.
cheers,
cyberjaya

Forgot to add...
What's the difference of using MTUX RingtoneX and changing the registry to "\storage card\My Documents\Rings\"?
Am not too sure if this happen for all XDA, irrelevance of which model it is. For mine case (Magician), the registry hack above will work. But if you look properly into your folder, you'll find a duplicate copy of ringtone files exists in "\windows\rings". It might be because I'm using MTUX all these while.
Had tried MTUX 2.1a version, now it won't replicate another copy of the ringtone files onto "\windows\rings". In other word, you save your storage space of the main memory.

Nope - don't have a duplicate copy in "windows\Rings". I've deleted everything from there. I will try a smaller file as a trial. The .wav file I'm using on my storage card (1.0 gb SanDisk Ultra II) is 478 kb. Like I said, sometimes the phone rings with this, sometimes with the default file.

Re: Most of the time the problem is due to the ringtone size
cyberjaya said:
The problem you mentioned "ringtone at time goes back to default.wav" is likely due to the ringtone size. So far I haven't came across any workaround for that. The only recommendation I would think is, get a fast SD card or reduce your ringtone size.
Alternate chioce would be, install the "Big ROM" thing that's available on this forum. Then, download MTUX RingtoneX Version 2.1a (have to be version 2.1a!!!!) and set your ringtone folder to "Storage" instead of "Storage Card". Have fun.
cheers,
cyberjaya
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What's the Big ROM thing? Ta

Rick GM said:
I have changed the Directory string in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring to "\storage card\My Documents\Rings\"
and the phone now rings with the wav file in this directory on my storage card. Well some times it does. Other times it rings with Windows Default.wav (the DefaultRing String setting in the Ring file). Can I rename this string value (or delete it).
ps I know I'm playing with fire messing with the registry but we all have to learn somehow!
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I have the same problem, even with a 66X SD card. :?
The ringtone played when the screen was already on, but if the call woke the PDA, the DefaultRing played instead.
I've just edited all my MP3 ring tones down to 40 secs, set them to mono @ 64kbps. This seems to have improved things so the MP3 plays instead of the default.

Any solutions for this problem ?
Any solutions for this problem ?

Beonfocus wrote
Any solutions for this problem ?
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Store the ring tone in memory - not the storage card

sd dont just get turned off when batt is low it gets turned off when the device is off
so when the device rings it dont have access to the sd card == no ring tone access

Solution !!!
IF you have big storage patch in your pocket, just transfer your ringtones
to STORAGE directory, i made it and it work very good.
i had the same problem and now it is work good !
thanks

Change Ringtone Folder to Storage Card

Hello All,
If I copy the ringtones to my storage card the phone (TD2) does not show those ringtone files.
But if I copy the files to main storage (My Documents\Ringtones) it does work.
Is it not possible to have/store my ringtones @ storage card instead of main storage? If YES, Please advice.
Thanks.

Create folder in storage card e.g. "Ringtones" and change path in registry. I've read about it in this forum but can't remember where.
edit : I think the regisrty path is HKLM\Software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\Config\so there change key ring_tone_path from \My Documents\My Ringtones to \StorageCard\Ringtones

prdic said:
Create folder in storage card e.g. "Ringtones" and change path in registry. I've read about it in this forum but can't remember where.
edit : I think the regisrty path is HKLM\Software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\Config\so there change key ring_tone_path from \My Documents\My Ringtones to \StorageCard\Ringtones
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Thanks for the reply. I will try this out. Can you point me to the location where I can download the Registry editor.
Also it will be grt if you can point me to Total Commander for MW too.
Thanks.

Here is regedit and here is tcmd. Tcmd has own registry editor as well, in Plugins/registry.

prdic said:
Here is regedit and here is tcmd. Tcmd has own registry editor as well, in Plugins/registry.
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Thanks for the links.
I have downloaded the regedit (Smartphone 2000, 2003 ARM/PXA) downloaded the CAB in my storage card and installed the application in my device. It installed successfuly and I can see the application in my all programs.
But issue is:
when I start the RegEdit I can see HKCR, HKCU, HKLM AND HKUSERS. But I cant open those keys.. mean there is no sub folders.... I sthere any thing I am missing... or I should download the PocketPC edition 2000, 2003 one?

Can you explain just exactly what it is you are trying to do and why?

You have to download PPC edition. Smartphone is device without touch screen.

prdic said:
You have to download PPC edition. Smartphone is device without touch screen.
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OK Thanks for your input. I will do that today when I go home .
Thanks.

pa49 said:
Can you explain just exactly what it is you are trying to do and why?
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I am trying to make my phone read Ringtones from my Memory Card. This require some registry change which "prdic" is trying to help me.

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If I go to the folder on my storage card which includes any sound file (mp3s included) tap and hold the file name an option pop up menu gives just what I think you are looking for!
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pa49 said:
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If I go to the folder on my storage card which includes any sound file (mp3s included) tap and hold the file name an option pop up menu gives just what I think you are looking for!
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He don't want the ringtones to be stored on the main memory I'm pretty sure, that's why he asked for this.

ArtieQ said:
He don't want the ringtones to be stored on the main memory I'm pretty sure, that's why he asked for this.
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That's why I asked what he EXACTLY was trying to do!

And BTW what's wrong with storing on main memory?

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And BTW what's wrong with storing on main memory?
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Taking up memory? =) Main memory should be used only for \Windows and such, not ringtones, music or pictures. Also it's nice to have all programs on \Storage Card.

ArtieQ said:
Taking up memory? =) Main memory should be used only for \Windows and such, not ringtones, music or pictures. Also it's nice to have all programs on \Storage Card.
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Yes I know this one. I've heard it many times before and I've had long forum discussions about it in the past.
May be we should start another thread for those who many have missed the two sides of the argument?

prdic said:
You have to download PPC edition. Smartphone is device without touch screen.
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The PCC edition is working fine in TD2. Thanks.

pa49 said:
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If I go to the folder on my storage card which includes any sound file (mp3s included) tap and hold the file name an option pop up menu gives just what I think you are looking for!
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This does work, but I dont want the ringtones to be stored in Main memory or being copied to \My Documents\My Ringtones folder. So I was looking for any config change where it should point to the folder that I want .
PS:
- The Registry change that "prdic" suggested does not work. I tried with \Storage Card\<MyFolder> and \StorageCard\<MyFolder> both did not worked for me. I restarted the mobile too after change.
- And "ArtieQ" you are correct, I dont want the Main Memory to be used for the reasons explained by you. Thanks for that.

prabhat said:
This does work, but I dont want the ringtones to be stored in Main memory or being copied to \My Documents\My Ringtones folder. So I was looking for any config change where it should point to the folder that I want .
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- The Registry change that "prdic" suggested does not work. I tried with \Storage Card\<MyFolder> and \StorageCard\<MyFolder> both did not worked for me. I restarted the mobile too after change.
- And "ArtieQ" you are correct, I dont want the Main Memory to be used for the reasons explained by you. Thanks for that.
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Don't get me wrong, I now understand what you you want.
I just don't understand why you want it.
The 'reasons' explained are preferences and accessing memory card storage will slow the process down as it's not as fast as main storage so what is the advantage to using mem card in this way?
OS runs in it's own area so this is not compromised and there's plenty of RAM for any files or apps to be located without problem. This area is faster than mem card as well.
Also if you change mem card for any reason you loose the links anyway.
Plus with all these extra OS calls across the mem bus you run the risk of freezes.
If you need a loaf of bread in a hurry you go to the nearest shop!
ArtieQ-
Can you explain further please?
"Taking up memory? =) Main memory should be used only for \Windows and such, not ringtones, music or pictures. Also it's nice to have all programs on \Storage Card."
Why should main memory only be use for \Windows and such etc?
And why is it nice to have all programs on \Storage Card?
I ask this because I can't see any technical reason for it and I believe it cause operating problems if its done!

pa49 said:
ArtieQ-
Can you explain further please?
"Taking up memory? =) Main memory should be used only for \Windows and such, not ringtones, music or pictures. Also it's nice to have all programs on \Storage Card."
Why should main memory only be use for \Windows and such etc?
And why is it nice to have all programs on \Storage Card?
I ask this because I can't see any technical reason for it and I believe it cause operating problems if its done!
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1. More memory available = Better performance, and a storage card is used for music and such isn't it? That's the reason why main memory only is 800mb.
2. All programs on storage card instead of main memory = More RAM available = Better performance.

I don't know if it helps, but you can change the location of "My Documents" all together to storage card by using Advanced Config --> Locations.
As for myself, I prefer having the mp3-ringtones in phone memory for quicker access.

Switch Ringer Tone Directory?

Is it possible to switch, or have the option to select ring tones that within a directory on my SD card instead of in system memory?
Please advise, thanks!

Anyone on this? I remember it used to be possible on other HTC phones, I think with a registry entry, but I would like to avoid having the main memory filled with ringers!

I think you can just copy the ringtones to your sd card root and the ringtone selector will automatically pick up all the files...

I just used MP3 Clipper to play the file and saved it where is wants it. Then went to the ringtone selector and there is was.

Thanks guys, I figured out the solution. There are only two default areas that the HD2 will look for ring tones and system sounds (without a registry hack, which I do not have). The first location is in system memory, which is what I was trying to avoid by putting my new ring tones on the SD card...
All you need to do is put any new ring tones in the following directory:
\Storage Card\My Documents
They cannot be within a sub-directory of My Documents either, mind you, they must be right out in the main MY Documents directory, but then these sound files can be picked up for ring tones & system sounds anywhere in the HD2's settings. This saves your phone some internal memory, shoving it off the the almost limitless SD cards we can put in these bad boys!
I hope this helps some others here.

Definetly better then device storage so thx for the hint.

Music Tab library fix

Well a lot of people noticed a problem with HTC Music tab. Library shows not only music but ring tones and other sounds. One way to stop it is to hide offending folders. One problem with that is if you hide for example ring tone folder you can not select your ring tones as they are hidden as well.
What I did is as goes. I have music on SD card, also there is tomtom, copilot and some other apps. I have hidden all of the apps that might have sounds so they do not show up in library. Obviously left folder with music not hidden.
That will take care of SD card.
For My Device sounds do steps below:
1. Start from removing your card and then going to music tab so it rescans and states no music found. (Skip to step 3 if you are starting from clean rom)
2. Go to registry editor of your choice and navigate to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng (for german it will be AudioManager_Ger)\Information
Delete all items in that folder. You will not be able to delete Information it self.
If you are on clean rom you will not even have that folder it is created 1st time when music tab finds music.
3. Navigate to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\Config
In there change:
"device_scan_path_path" from what ever there is to \Windows
"device_scan_path_path_0" from what ever there is to \Windows
"ring_tone_path" from what ever there is to \Windows
What this will do is exclude all files in windows folder. If you have any files in my documents they will show up. I assume if you just put "\" instead of "\Windows" it will exclude entire my device but did not test it.
4. Soft reset, insert your SD card and enjoy.

I have my mp3's on sd card: X:\music
Is it possible to set that only this folder is scanned?

"device_scan_path_path" from what ever there is to \Windows
"device_scan_path_path_0" from what ever there is to \Windows
"ring_tone_path" from what ever there is to \Windows
I am wondering if doing this on just the ring tone path will do... essentially excluding the whole windows folder?
One of these device scan path should be for the SD Card.... if so, it would be great cause then we can exclude the program files for stuff like games installed on the SD card...

eskasi said:
"device_scan_path_path" from what ever there is to \Windows
"device_scan_path_path_0" from what ever there is to \Windows
"ring_tone_path" from what ever there is to \Windows
I am wondering if doing this on just the ring tone path will do... essentially excluding the whole windows folder?
One of these device scan path should be for the SD Card.... if so, it would be great cause then we can exclude the program files for stuff like games installed on the SD card...
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Did not work for me. I had to change all to windows. I am thinking that if I were to exclude entire my device by putting just \ it would also exclude storage card as that appears as one of folders.
On my sd card I have hidden tomtom and it's maps so no sounds from there show up.
Did not find anywhere option to only scan selected folder, there is only option to select what not to scan and you only have one entry.
Oh yes one more device scan path is my documents by default and folder to exclude is my documents\my ringtones yet all ringtones from windows folder where showing up. Obviously device scan path does not work exactly as expected.

Bence said:
I have my mp3's on sd card: X:\music
Is it possible to set that only this folder is scanned?
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In short no, or not that I know off. HTC did it from cats end just like htc album folder. Instead of letting us select what folders to add in registry you have to edit what folders not to scan. However in album you can have more then one entry in music tab you can not.
I must add that since I edited that registry entry I have no ring tones at all in my music tab.

You are a star! Thank you for this... I can use this to sort out my wife's phone too!
Thanks for the easy to understand tutorial!

"device_scan_path_path" from what ever there is to \Windows
"device_scan_path_path_0" from what ever there is to \Windows
"ring_tone_path" from what ever there is to \Windows
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It works for me but isnt the meaning of "device scan path" normally the path where music is stored?
Im just a bit confused about it.
Wouldnt it be enough to state the first link to sd card?
Correct me if im wrong but i understand that the first shortcut goes to the path where music should be searched in.
The second i understand as the path where NOT to search.
And the third exists just to make sure the ringtones arent added.
Just for the understanding for me.
It works like a charm tho. And thats most important part in here

dameon12 said:
It works for me but isnt the meaning of "device scan path" normally the path where music is stored?
Im just a bit confused about it.
Wouldnt it be enough to state the first link to sd card?
Correct me if im wrong but i understand that the first shortcut goes to the path where music should be searched in.
The second i understand as the path where NOT to search.
And the third exists just to make sure the ringtones arent added.
Just for the understanding for me.
It works like a charm tho. And thats most important part in here
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I 100% agree with you it makes no sense what so ever. It seems that instead of dong it the normal way where you point what to scan they did it hte othe way around where you point what not to scan.