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I got VoiceCmd to not Hang after call with some BT Headsets!

Hi,
Was playing around with a way to get my Motorola H700 to not hang after the first use. I don't know how to code (at all) but I wrote a little VB app that Monitored the State and Notification PhoneCallTalking to see when a call was initiated, then monitored to see when the call ended at which point I executed BTAudioOn.Exe from BTUtils causing the channel to open again so I push the button and that's it, I could make call after call just like my old HS850. This will probably work with any headset that hangs after the first call.
Only problem, like I was saying, I can't program, I did all this in Do While Loops so it's pretty unusable since it kills the processor. I don't know how to work with Events or Registering for notifications.
Anyways, if there is anyone who can code and is looking for something to do, maybe you could make something similar (this way or a better way) that can run resident and monitor for the end of a phone conversation and then execute BTAudioON.exe or I guess if you know how to program the MS Bluetooth Stack, open the channel again.
If not, I guess I'll keep learning and try to figure out how to do it properly by handling the notification trigger and wait for it without killing the CPU

I've been looking for something like this! Keep us updated if you find a way to do it without putting too much of a load on the CPU.. I'm getting into WM programming but I have no idea how to capture call/notification states yet.

Re: I got VoiceCmd to not Hang after call with some BT Heads
shoey5 said:
Hi,
Was playing around with a way to get my Motorola H700 to not hang after the first use. I don't know how to code (at all) but I wrote a little VB app that Monitored the State and Notification PhoneCallTalking to see when a call was initiated, then monitored to see when the call ended at which point I executed BTAudioOn.Exe from BTUtils causing the channel to open again so I push the button and that's it, I could make call after call just like my old HS850. This will probably work with any headset that hangs after the first call.
Only problem, like I was saying, I can't program, I did all this in Do While Loops so it's pretty unusable since it kills the processor. I don't know how to work with Events or Registering for notifications.
Anyways, if there is anyone who can code and is looking for something to do, maybe you could make something similar (this way or a better way) that can run resident and monitor for the end of a phone conversation and then execute BTAudioON.exe or I guess if you know how to program the MS Bluetooth Stack, open the channel again.
If not, I guess I'll keep learning and try to figure out how to do it properly by handling the notification trigger and wait for it without killing the CPU
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Good luck and keep us posted. One "use case" to keep in mind is if you initiate VC which doesn't lead to a phone call since VC supports other commands.
I tried something similar to what you are trying to do and it's just too complex because of the different outcomes of initiating VC

I think it'd probably be best to just fix the dialing part - I don't really care about the launching of the apps, etc.
Some of the voice commands, like "What day is it" didn't seem to break the voice channel anyway.
I hate to say it, but it's probably best to just fix the simple stuff and wait for a BT enabled version from Microsoft to fix the rest.

VCBTFixer - My First Attempt
Hey guys here's what I came up with so far. It's not much but it works, been using it all day without ever taking my Wizard out to reset the headset
When running in the background, it will monitor for a hangup (the point where your headset usually crashes after the first call) It will wait a second and then open the BT Audio Gateway, just press the BT headset again to turn it off, and then press it one more time and you'll hear VoiceCommand waiting for you again
Ok remember this is my first attempt at programming so use it at your own risk And remember it's not 100%, I still have to check for a failed call or if you terminate before the call actually starts, check to see if the headset is being used before trying to turn on the audio gateway ect.
I'll probably get rid of the dialog or keep it, I don't know, I was thinking it could be useful to configure a sound that can be played when the audio gateway opens again, this way you get reminded to press the headset button again to turn off the BT Audio Gateway Maybe display and allow you to select which headsets (if you have more than one) this program should work with if some work and some don't, all that kind of crap.
Anyways, let me know if it works.

Im no WM programmer but cant u open the BT channel then close it again pro grammatically, or will that cause the same type of "crash"? I would love to see this work because I WANT my damn H700 back, till then I'm stuck with this hs850.
Thanx; Lew

lewcamino: Tried that but it still hung, only way I could get it to work is to open the chanel and then close it. Anyways I tried this program with my H700 and it worked, give it a try, you have to be logged in to see it.
I'm no programmer either, maybe someone could write a much better version. I think the best way (if it's possible) would be to close the BT Audio Gateway just before VoiceCommand started dialing (the phone should open the Audio Gateway when the call starts and then it should be good (I think) but I don't know if that's even possible to detect.
So for now, until someone figures out a better way or Microsoft releases a new version with BT support, I guess this works. Used it all day with my H700 didn't have to push any buttons on the device between calls which is what I wanted.

Thanks shoey5! Your program works great with my H700.
Do you have any updates? Also, how did you create the .exe? What tools did you use? Are you willing to give up your source code? I would love to dig into it, modify it, upgrade it.
Again, thanks for the great program.

Congrats on getting something to work. What happens if you close the boom of the H700 after a call? What if you use VC to check your battery signal or ask what time it is?
Looking forward to seeing future versions - once it's good and ready I can go back to my H700. Using the HS850 for now.

Ok Second Attempt, if learning VB.Net for the first attempt wasn't bad enough, had to start learning C++ for the second
This one is a lot better though it's late so I haven't been able to test and it needs some error checking but it's much more useable. Ported it to C++ so now only takes 3.90K as apposed to the 200K VB.Net (Sucks) version was taking so it's acceptible to have it running in the background. Also uses a different method of refreshing BTAG after a call though I'd like to find a better way. Also got rid of the UI so you can throw it into \Windows\Startup to have it running when device loads.
Let me know how well or how bad it works.

Cool - thanks a lot! This seems to work!

Doesnt work with german rom... are there any paths hardcoded which may be named different in other languages? (Programs for example)

Hi Shoey5,
Just for your information I have a O2 XDA Mini S WM5 and it does not work as intended, works once after that it needs a soft reset.
I send you a PM with contact details.

Shoey,
your little app works really well! Only occasionaly will there be some kind of hiccup between the MDA and the headset, and I will have to reset the MDA.
It also seems that you have to be alittle patiend between calls to give the headset/MDA time to be ready to respond.
I can make repeated voice commands and even activate redial with a double tap on the headset button.
I would encourage you to keep working on this program so the VCBT functionality can be made even more stable!

Shoey,
your little app works really well! Only occasionaly will there be some kind of hiccup between the MDA and the headset, and I will have to reset the MDA.
It also seems that you have to be alittle patiend between calls to give the headset/MDA time to be ready to respond.
I can make repeated voice commands and even activate redial with a double tap on the headset button.
I would encourage you to keep working on this program so the VCBT functionality can be made even more stable!

Curious, how many of you are running skype? Try this

This is just something I stumbled across a while ago but haven't had the time to post it. I'm not making any promises so this is just a head's up.
If anyone remembers my last post on skype here, you'll recall me saying that there's a Disable Codecs key in the registry. Well I didn't know the codecs but SkypeSmart over at Skype forums posted this tweak for his iPaq and it works a treat.
I'm running my Mini S with the original ROM and skype with my key reading: ILBC G729 EG711U
As a result it only uses the EG711A codec and guess what, it works, at stock speed too. My phone is an utter mess but it works at an acceptable level that is to say both parties can hear the conversation without any hiccups. Tested over a WiFi link but be warned you'll lose connectivity with echo123 and it also seems to me that Skype Linux doesn't have the EG711A or EG711U or even the G729 codecs so you won't be able to chat with them unless you enable ILBC.
One thing worth testing is to see what happens in a conference call (with a Windows machine as host and a Linux machine and the wizard with some of the codecs disabled) but I don't have the time to test so be my guest and post the results if you do test it.
By the way, I use Skype v2 Feb 14 release. If anyone wants to post their overclocked results or anything, great.

Indeed it does work and VERY well. I just called across a very sketchy broadband connection and audio in BOTH ways was clear. Before, I could be heard by the other party but could not hear them in return. Once I overclocked, I could actually have a couple of pragrams running in the background and still have acceptable resources left. Bravo to whoever came up with this tweak.

How far did you overclock? Also, I know a lot of people are viewing this thread but only one response so far...does that mean the rest of you are enjoying Skype? :shock:

i use skype with my wizard very well and i can use skypeout as well.
i installed for the high cpu usage, not low cpu usage. but i also use omapoverclock.
what i did, just installed skype, then change the content of d shortcut using total commander in windows/start menu/programs/skype.lnk with this one:
46#"\program files\omapclock.exe" -clock 240 -launch "\Program Files\Skype for Pocket PC\Skype.exe" -restore?Program Files\Skype for Pocket PC\Skype.exe,
in this case, i put omapclock file in 'program files' folder, and don't forget to use "," sign in the last content of skype. because it gives u back d skype icon, otherwise u'll see omapclock icon.
Gut luck!!! and i hope this can be useful 4 u...
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i remember trying this on my wizard...i placed a call to a land phone and i could not hear the other phone ring or anything.. but t did call..
What am i doing wrong?

Thanks Ricky, that trick with Omapoverclock works a treat. By the way not sure if it is my imagination but sounds like the I am getting the call playing through my handsfree speaker and not the ear piece. Does anyone else get this or am I going mad????

jt_armstrong said:
Thanks Ricky, that trick with Omapoverclock works a treat. By the way not sure if it is my imagination but sounds like the I am getting the call playing through my handsfree speaker and not the ear piece. Does anyone else get this or am I going mad????
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You're not. Apparently the M600 is the only phone which might support non-speakerphone chat on skype. I heard that its latest ROM does exactly what you want it do. I don't know if its a Skype specific issue or whether it's ROM specific but I have not seen any apps other than the phone app itself take advantage of the earpiece.
@guyver2077:
If you're referring to the tweak I listed, what does it do when you call PCs? I made a skype out call actually 3 of them and I could hear all of them clearly - 1 to Guam , 2 to HK and I'm in the UK.
@Ricky:
Does 240MHz eat away at the battery life, especially with WiFi on?
I just spent the last few days setting up a Linksys NSLU2 with DebianSlug and it works great; Samba works with the phone too 8). A little tempted to get a bluetooth dongle to stick to the slug so that I can connect to the net over bluetooth when possible but the BT stack on the mobile doesn't support BT networking does it?

ok.. so does this only work with speakerphone on?? i didnt hear anything through the actual phone ear reciever

guyver2077 said:
ok.. so does this only work with speakerphone on?? i didnt hear anything through the actual phone ear reciever
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When I said speakerphone I meant simply that the sound is coming out at the same volume as media player, etc if that makes sense. There's no reason for you not to be able to hear a thing though. :?

Thanks AsGF2MX, It works great with the headfones I just don't normally use them.

guyver2077 said:
ok.. so does this only work with speakerphone on?? i didnt hear anything through the actual phone ear reciever
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If you think about it, it makes sense. This is Skype for Pocket PC, most Pocket PCs don't have the phone built in.
Do you have a BT headset? If so open the audio gateway (either using the program posted in this forum or via Voice Command press BT button and just say "Open Skype", the Audio gate will stay open).
This should allow you to use your BT headset for Skype calls.

kyphur said:
guyver2077 said:
ok.. so does this only work with speakerphone on?? i didnt hear anything through the actual phone ear reciever
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If you think about it, it makes sense. This is Skype for Pocket PC, most Pocket PCs don't have the phone built in.
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I suppose you're right, that would explain things but is there an option to actually channel audio to the ear piece? If not, then it's definitely an issue with the way the device ROMs are designed (assuming that there is a way for software to utilize the ear piece).
Well, I'm glad a few people found it useful and I hope it's working for the rest of you as well. I might just pick-up OMAP clock a little later and try to see how well an overclock fares on my device but first, I'm going to try a few apps I've been wanting to try for a while.

Great tip!
I have previously tried Skype on my Qtek 9100 but have always found the audio quality quite bad, even when overclocking to 240.
After changing the DisableCodecs as suggested here, the audio quality is now really good, also when using SkypeOut to a Fixednet phone.

Thanks for the tip!

Yes Great tip, thanks

Can someone point me in the direction of the program that opens the audio gateway?
I don't have MS Voice Command, I only have the default "Voice Speed Dial".
EDIT: FOUND IT!!!
Therez two actually. one is btAudio, and the other is VjVolubilis

After Skype Install - Alarm clock chaos
Hi
I have been reading this thread with interest. I own an old XDA (one with aerial) and now the XDA Mini S. Have had it now for about 6 months and sync up to 2 pc's, have multiple email accounts, use the Wifi/msn - so use pretty much all of functionality. Happy so far!
I installed the pocket pc version of Skype last night - and found that this morning my alarm went off - but with no options displayed on the screen to snooze/dismiss alarm! Consequently - the alarm/vibrate goes off every 5 minutes - and only thing i can do is remove the battery -so phone basically unusable. Soft reset does not help - and would rather not hard reset as then will have to redo email settings etc.
Anyone out there had this problem before? Your help would be appreciated (think you are calling the XDA mini a wizard)
OS Build: 5.1.70 (14406.1.1.1)
ROM: 1.5.4.2 WWE
ROM date: 11/8/05
Radio: 01.09.10
Protocol: 4.0.13.20
ExtROM: 1.5.4.103

Have you removed the Skype software already?

After Skype Install - Alarm clock chaos
Hi - Yes, I have removed Skype from the XDA Mini. Soft-reset again - no difference.

I had that alarm problem once.
I'd had my cingular 8125 (HTC wizard) for a week or two and had been putting apps on it and messing with the registry, then one morning my alarm went off, I reached over to silence it, pushed some random button accidentally, and the alarm kept on going. I opened my eyes and sat there for a minute waiting for my brain to boot up because I wasn't seeing the notice showing me which softkey to press. After awhile, I realized that I was completely awake, and there really was no way to turn the alarm off!
I messed around with that thing forever. Scrolling through menus, doing soft resets, etc. Nothing would silence the alarm. I tried reseting the time/date and doing a soft reset, but every time the device booted up, it would go nuts with alarm tones (they kept multiplying! Every time I would reset the time after having set it back, another alarm would go off and they started piling up!).
Boy, that really ruined my morning.
I ended up having to do a hard reset to fix the problem. And when I ran my latest backup, the problem came right back! So I had to do another hard reset and roll back to an earlier backup.
I really don't know what the problem was, but I think I might have a slight idea. I had downloaded some program called CheckNotifications by Scarybear software (I now know it's not meant for WM5) and I think I must have deleted that alarm notification from the "notification database". (No, I don't actually know what any of that means, I'm just regurgitating words I read online in a manner which seems to make a little sense). So some parte of the OS somewhere remembered the alarm, and turned it on at the right time, but the part of the OS responsible for giving you the facility to turn it off was screwed. But that's just a wild guess.
Maybe you also have some issue with your notification database.
Good luck! Of course, if you were anywhere near as annoyed as I was, you probably already said a few (dozen) choice curse words and did a hard reset.
(edit: clarified phone)

XV6800 w/6.1 not answering using keys?

I upgraded my XV6800 to 6.1 using the official upgrade. It's giving me trouble answering calls. When a call comes in I see the notification but when I try to press the Green phone button or the left soft button labeled 'Answer' it doesn't do it! It's like the keys are slow or something. When I use the soft button is DOES flash the soft button label like it recognized the button press. But it does not answer the call! I've had this happen at least a dozen times now so I know it's not just me fumbling with the keys. 9 times of of 10 I can't answer a call!
I've tried hard resetting the device and the symptom persists. I've tried using it without the microSD card loaded. Still the same trouble.
Has anyone else seen this? Or can you recommend a solution?

so your saying it doesn't show "connected"?
I had something similar to what your describing but it would show as "connected" on my phone. I couldn't hear anything when I'd answer. I realized after several attempts it was that the phone was paired to my cars bluetooth... I was trying to dial my phone as I was walking away from my car but I was still within 30 ft of the car... so all speaker and microphone was still being redirected to the cars system. lol. Same can happen with a bluetooth headset where the conversation (speaker/mic) is redirected to the headset that may be in your pocket or on the kitchen counter. But it would at least show as "connected" on the phone.
I feel stupid/foolish for shareing that experience but figured just maybe its what your experiencing.
Thanks,
Ben
*edit: by the way... when I had the 6.1 vzw upgrade I had no problem placeing and receiving calls, with the exception of the "user error" I described above. You could always try rolling back to 6.0 and upgrade again. Did you install any other new software after the upgrade to 6.1?

I have been experiencing something similar. PPC 6800 (not Verizon) with 6.0. When phone is locked and call comes in, can’t answer with the button or with BT. 6800 keeps ringing long after caller goes to voice mail. The only way to escape is soft reset. I’m running the original ROM & Radio that came with the 6800.

ygohome said:
so your saying it doesn't show "connected"?
I had something similar to what your describing but it would show as "connected" on my phone. I couldn't hear anything when I'd answer. I realized after several attempts it was that the phone was paired to my cars bluetooth... I was trying to dial my phone as I was walking away from my car but I was still within 30 ft of the car... so all speaker and microphone was still being redirected to the cars system. lol. Same can happen with a bluetooth headset where the conversation (speaker/mic) is redirected to the headset that may be in your pocket or on the kitchen counter. But it would at least show as "connected" on the phone.
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Nope, never shows connected. It's like the UI has gotten hung somewhere and isn't passing control over to the phone app.
No bluetooth pairings have ever been done to this phone, not before the upgrade and certainly none since. BT isn't even enabled.
Tim may be on to something regarding the lock situation. I've found the lock method a lot less friendly than before 6.1. Can't quite pin it down but it just doesn't seem to unlock properly. Again, it seems to be related to something making the phone 'slow'. On-screen keypresses in the Lock app don't seem to register with the same speed as before 6.1. I can tap a couple of them and not see anything on the screen, then they all run through (showing the screen buttons getting pressed).

My Xv6800 Verizon Does The Same Thing. I Push The Green Hard Button To Answer And It Takes Like 5 Seconds To Answer. It Seems To Happen More When I Have Programs Like Internet Explorer Up, But There Is Still Plenty Of Memory So I Cant See Why It Would Be So Slow. Its Just Frustrating Because Sometimes It Takes So Long The Call Goes To Voicemail And Nobody (fiancee Included) Believes Me! Any Help From Anyone?

fyi... i use an auto close program so when I close an application it really closes. I don't have the slow response or ability to not answer within 5 secs, etc. maybe it is a low memory issue you are experiencing. I don't lock my phone so that may be it too. Sorry I'm not much help here.

ygohome said:
fyi... i use an auto close program so when I close an application it really closes. I don't have the slow response or ability to not answer within 5 secs, etc. maybe it is a low memory issue you are experiencing. I don't lock my phone so that may be it too. Sorry I'm not much help here.
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No, it's definitely not a low memory issue. It's doing this fresh after a reboot having had no other apps even started.

Mobile staying on after call in bluetooth headset mode

I am looking for a tweak or registry fix/setting to help me with the following problem:
On my parrot bluetooth car kit in headset mode after a call is finished the phone stays on. This is not a problem if you finish a normal call without handsfree because you switch it off manually but when you are driving with the phone in your pocket, the phone is liable to screen presses. I have been inadvertently creating/editing contacts and making notes with the phone in my pocket after use in the car.
The screen autopower off does work if the screen is not activated for a few minutes but the inadvertent screen presses occur within this timeframe.
Any help is appreciated - thanks!

I have a similar problem when using my bluetooth headset (Samsung WEP200)…
When I make a call using the headset the screen stays active, and if I turn it off during a call it turns it self on again after the call has ended. Not fun if it’s in my pocket and it decides to call someone back without me knowing.
Is there a general setting or fix that disables the screen when you answer or make a call with the headset active?

Have you found any solution to this?

aneben said:
Have you found any solution to this?
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Nope, not yet…
I can’t believe that there aren’t a lot more people with this problem!? It’s a REALLY STUPID problem to have on such an advanced phone like the Blacksone when nearly EVERY basic mobile phone has this feature since the dawn of BT headsets.
This might leave me no other choice than to retire my beloved Blackstone and dig up my old Samsung phone so that I can drive my car safely with my phone in my pocket…

There is an app called Touch InCall Screen Tweak. With that you can configure so that screen will go off quickly when answering and ending calls and bluetooth headset is used. It works great for me!

aneben said:
There is an app called Touch InCall Screen Tweak. With that you can configure so that screen will go off quickly when answering and ending calls and bluetooth headset is used. It works great for me!
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I actually tried that app yesterday but didn’t get it working as I wanted. How did you configure it?
I guess I can try it again – would be great if it works!

Well, now I can make a call without worrying about it to end (with the InCall Touch app), but when the call is ended we're back making random calls without knowing to whom.
This amazes me, how this feature can be missing. It’s not something I admit to my iPhone friends who still tries to find something that Blackstone can’t do – cuz this even works on the iPhone!
I'll try tweaking till I or someone else can find a solution to this rather embarrassing problem.

Handsfree and my Leo in pants

I have a car with bluetooth mode (audi a4 b8 mmi ) I connect my Leo with car and everything is ok but when somebody call to me ( i call to somebody ) my leon take screen switch on during connection and this is the problem. I take a call under my car and i don't need touch the screen. Ussualy my leo stay in pants during drive and when i end a call i frequently touch leo screen by my leg and turn on a lot of programs and take a call.
My question is :
Is there any programs to take off ( lock ) the screen during bluetooth connection with handsfree? Or maybe i dont need a programs then say what i do wrong ( some set-up is not correct )
Sorry for my english ;-) ( Take a fun )

use the leather sleeve it came with? I use mine with bt when out on my bike, same problem. the sleeve sorts it out.

I try it.
Thx

no worries. The sleeve feels a bit tight for the first few days, but loosens up quickly. and if you put the phone in top first it lets the buttons and typing area come out without having to take it all teh way off, and the earphone socket doesnt stretch it and make it harder to get out.

is there any new solution for this?

waichai said:
is there any new solution for this?
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well, i found a solution for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488991
i use this cab Touch_InCall_Screen_Tweak v1.2.0.CAB
make sure in Speaker Tab, unselect everything and choose "Do Nothng" otherwise your ringing volume will be very low.

using the leather sleeve is really not a solution at all!,
I have been using the sleeve from day one to protect my Leo, but when Leo is in my jeans pocket the sleeve still has some conductivity so it opens up programs and does all-kind of mischief, its total BS and mayor flaw of this "phone"!
calling in general is so cumbersome that I have ended up using a SE phone for calling and HD2 as a pocetPC. Specially because of the battery issue too - I cant afford to end up with a brick in an ally late at night just because I used navi for an hour that day.
I will try waichai solution, but its really sad that we have to use work-around for these very basic functions