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Did anyone experiment with integrating a wi-fi SDIO card INSIDE the Magician? I am curious to know if there is enough space inside the case to solder in the internals of the Sandisk WiFi card.
Would also be interesting to know if it is possible to integrate the Sandisk 256 meg wifi card but leave out the Mem and wire it back to the SDIO pins so that the card slot could still be used to plug in a 1g-2g card and still enjoy built-in wifi...
Thought I ask it here, perhaps someone heard something. In case I put a bug in anyone's ear, a reminder that experimenting with something like this will void the warranty... so at your own risk But if you decided to do it, let me know
I think that's impossible because there is almost no space inside the magician. Moreover, such modification will mostly disable the fuction of the SDIO slot when you enable the sdio wifi card, I blieve it is pointless to do so.
Why don't buy a blue angel or wait for the next generation of magician if you really need wifi but do not want to use an external wifi sd card.
Sorry for jumping in here . ..
Is the Magican Qtek s100 support the 256mb WiFi SD card.. ?
Sandisk says NO on my question to thre support .
Here is the answer below..
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Got this on my question from Sandisk about the s100 / wifi 256mb SD..
SanDisk Response: (12/20/2004 11:04)
Dear Joachim
Unfortunately, due to lack of Custom Bus Driver on your device (MOST HTC DEVICES), the unit will not support this card. We hope that your device manufacturer will soon come up with a fix on this issue.
We appologize for any inconviniences this may have caused you. We recommend that you use the SD WIFI CARD with no memory instead.
Kind Regards,
Sudhi K.
SanDisk Technical Support.
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Your Response: (12/21/2004 12:43)
Hi again .. Plz look at this URL: http://www.mtekk.com.au/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4630 Its a AU PocketPC forum. There is a guy that says it works. Are you completly sure that the WiFi 256mb one dont work in this new Qtek s100 / iMate Jam ?? Regards Joachim
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SanDisk Response: (12/21/2004 12:43)
Apparently this user has been able to get it to work. Our position is the same. The unit is not supported.
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Plz.. say they have it wrong .. or have they even tested..??
Carlis
Sandisk says NO
And I say YES (I'm posting with it just right now !!!!!)
It work great (WifiFofum found 20 wifi access point near my home , and +/- 80 access point on the road to my office )
Buy it, you won't regret !!!
Anything I need to do when I install it.. ?
Or just use the latest drivers from Sandisk ??
U can access the 256 mb onboard the WiFi card without any problem?
I feel the Qtek S100 realy need the extra mem on a SD card ..
Was soo sad when they told me it will not work...
Ur answer maked the day
Regards Joachim
I got no problems to access the memories
TNX Marcus..
Looks like I just have to buy me a "nonworking" Sandisk 256mb SD
I suppose if I send in photos of it in my qtek .. sandisk still says it isnt working ..
Regards.. Carlis
Bad Luck Carlis
please, do you use sandisk or socket drivers with your sandisk card ?
thank's
I use the driver provided with the card (sandisk)
But I will try the socket (i heard that they work better)
I've just bought a 2gb 120x Moby Memory SD for my MDA Compact...and the it does not recognise it.Upon insertion it says it wants to format the card and says it formatted successfully. However I can not find the card in 'file explorer' or 'memory'. When I look in 'About/Version' it says the expansion slot is in use.
After speaking with Tech Support at Moby (Excellent) - We swapped it out for a 1Gb 80x SD card (their own)...and the same problem.
T-Mobile support is ...chocolate teapot comes to mind!
Out of the box rom: 1.01.00 WWE (21/10/04)
Has anyone got any ideas about this one (greatly appreciated)
Regards
Paul
I don't know that I can comment on your specific problem, as I have a cheap 1GB SD card that works without issues. Your ROM seems to be really old, however, and you would benefit tremendously by upgrading to the 1.11 or 1.12 versions (1.11 is extremely stable and seems to be a crowd favorite). I don't know if it will resolve your SD issues, but it should at least improve other aspects of the phone. (stability, call quality, bluetooth functionality, and camera quality)
Little Survey...
Okay...i've upgraded my rom to the imate Jam 1.12 from club imate site on my MDA Compact to see if the SD card problem goes away....NO it doesn't. This is really frustrating...and the JAM rom is not as good as the tmobile one with periodic slow downs and already one reset.
Anyway folks, I want to see if I can get some correllation with rom and SD cards. So a mini survey for you all. If you have a T-mobile (originally) MDA compact and use an SD card let me know:
Current ROM Make?
Current ROM Version?
SD Card Make/Model/Capacity?
Any problems with other SD cards?
I will publish a summary for everyone later.
P
sd card
i don't have a tmobile compact,
rather a qtec s100, although I got a TMobile manual in my box..
anyway, i have a 2gb 150x speed ADATA SD Card and I have exactly the same problem. If you browse this forum you will see there is one or two more other topics about the exact same issue.. dont think its anything to do with a specific vendor pda i.e. o2 / tmobile.... but rather a jam thing.
I don't think they currently recognise the latest sd cards, although, i've been told they do recognise the 2gb ultra disk from moby memory retailing at about £133.
So, we can either wait for the ROM upgrade to include the latest stuff, or swap or sell the cards and buy another one.. i'm probably doing the latter to be honest as i just cant wait.
ANyway, if you do find the problem, please let me know.
Regards,
Bushmen
Current ROM; Original T-Mobile
Other details in sig.
Have SanDisk SD 512mb, 100% fine from day one till now.
They don't seem to recognise the 2gb Moby SD...because that was my initial purchase. Then I downgraded to the 1gb. They are going to send me another 1gb from a different manufacturer. Moby are having a few of these problems cropping up.
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2 Gb GB SD doesnt works but 2GB MMC works fine... :?
MDA & SD CARD
Original MDA ROM & Radio V1.12
Bytestor 2 x 1gb hi-speed cards, no problems 100% perfect.
256mb Kingston card, today, no problems so far.
transend 1gb high speed no prob
old twin mos 256 mb card had same problem with you. but after i fomatted it with an external card reader and windows, worked perfectly. (this was used for a digital camera before)
hope this helps
PJS said:
I've just bought a 2gb 120x Moby Memory SD for my MDA Compact...and the it does not recognise it.Upon insertion it says it wants to format the card and says it formatted successfully. However I can not find the card in 'file explorer' or 'memory'. When I look in 'About/Version' it says the expansion slot is in use.
After speaking with Tech Support at Moby (Excellent) - We swapped it out for a 1Gb 80x SD card (their own)...and the same problem.
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Do the cards work fine in a PC card reader?
Does "formatting" on the MDA cause the card to be unreadable on the PC (until you reformat it on the PC)?
If so, these are the exact symptoms found on some early Magicians. If the card works in a PC, then it's a fault on the Jam/MDA, not the card, although the fault does vary by card brand. If you don't get the MDA swapped out, you could end up with it randomly wiping your card. See http://www.expansys.com/forumthread.asp?code=I-MATE_JAM&thread=153
If you don't have a PC card reader to test - get one (make sure it's USB2). Life is not long enough to transfer 2GB by activesync!
Imate Jam
My cards:
Apacer 1gb-no problems
Sandisk Ultra 2gb-no problems
Sandisk 1gb (regular)-no problems
For the moment it looks like if you want a 2gb card that works in your Jam, you'd better get the Sandisk Ultra 2gb.
Matterhorn said:
Sandisk Ultra 2gb-no problems
For the moment it looks like if you want a 2gb card that works in your Jam, you'd better get the Sandisk Ultra 2gb.
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I can confirm, it works on my HTC Magician too, formated with Fat32 on my PC and pluged into the Magician and have full capacity available! Already filled up with 1.4GB of data (TomTom Maps mostly) Really seems the only 2GB SD card working on the Magician :roll:
See my posting here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=24988&highlight=2gb+sd
1GB Magu SD Card 120x Hi-speed, dint work on MDA Compact.
1GB Magu SD Card 120x Hi-speed, dint work on MDA Compact.
Works fine on PC Card reader. But shows prompt for "Format" on MDA. When formatted, it does not show in File Explorer, but About Box says explansion slot in use. This card works fine on my Orange SPV (1st model).
I am trying for 512MB 60x speed Toshiba card.
Transcend 4Gig works on Jam - WITH SHIM
The JAM is famous for having innaccurate "travel" in its SD contact mechanical design. SD cards that are not thick enough will give this symptom. The fix is to add a "shim" of plastic or paper to the contact side of the SD card.
I use the sticky part of a PostIt note. Cover the entire card area except the contacts at the bottom. Contact side only. The Transcend 4 gig card is too thin, but adding the trusty PostIt fix now allows me to use this huge ($100) card with no problems. Hope this hack fixes your SD issues too - chuse...
Hi guys,
looking to get a 1gb sd card for the Magician M500 to upgrade from a Sandisk 256mb card.
Just looking around on forums but people are saying some do work and some dont!
The obvious card that i was going to get is the ADATA Myflash 1gb 150x,
due to its speed, however some of you saying this card does not work?
So the question is what card do you use and what size is it?
Thanks
Ambro
come on 13 views already and no one has replied?
you cant be that lazy can you to reply back?
I use San-Disk 1gb Extreme III
works perfect, and fast
Ok, ok, hold your horses.....
I'm using SanDisk 1.0 GB (normal one) without problems
under 2005 on a SPV M1000.
i am using fujifilm 1GB SD card with no problems at all
I used to use a 'normal' SanDisk 1GB
I now use a Zynet 2GB running at 68x speed.
I think there are far more issues with 2GB cards and the JAM than 1GB.
The ADATA 150x 2GB did not work on my device.
Dodger said:
Ok, ok, hold your horses.....
I'm using SanDisk 1.0 GB (normal one) without problems
under 2005 on a SPV M1000.
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yeah dont think that the spv m1000 has any problems with 1gb or 2gb Sd cards, i was on about the M500 its a different type of phone to the M1000! and its known as the imate jam or magician aswell as the M500.. (hence this was posted in the magician forum)
thanks for the feedback so far though
sh500:
when i transfer using Activesync and my magician i get speeds of about just under 2700kbps, what kinda of speeds are you getting with a 68x card?
you can find out by using analog x netstat live.
http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/network/nsl.htm
Install that prog and load it up comes up with a panel, right click and configure and it shows tcp/ip interface select the 127.0.0.1 and measure in bits! it will display the speed of transfer between phone and computer!
Attached my sample...
Rougly achieved 2600kbps using Sandisk 256mb Ultra II Sd Card..
ambro,
I'm afraid I cannot check as my JAM is in repair for a dead pixel!
I think the Ultra II is almost the same speed (as 68x) is it not?
Plus, although im no expert, i think there is a limit to how fast our JAMs can utilise anyway. I may be wrong.
I am using an 1 Gb Princeton card on my new Qtek S110 and it works very good. I had no problems with it.
just been told about this 1gb memory card at eBuyer..
its £39.99 1GB Viking SD Card
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=82393
Its not one of the high speed ones but its cheap!
thinking about purchasing it btw i've been told it works with the Magician
Go on ... spoil yourslef and get a 150x!!!!
Bought a TwinMOS Ultra-X
1Gb 66x
Everything OK, working just fine!
Cheers
using a toshiba 1 gb card. used a 512 mb by sandisk but discovered that i could only use 420 mb...not sure if this is a problem with the card itself or if this is a common thing. anyone experienced this? i know that that for all sd cards you can't really use the entire size description...example if your card is 1 gb you can only use 900-plus of it and not the entire 1gb. in my case my toshiba sd card allows me to go and use 993 mb which suits me just fine.
1GB sd card are becoming very cheap as the 2GB have come into the market.
Although, double the size does not yet mean double the price. 2GB are generally about 115% more than the 1GB.
I had my SanDisk 1GB for only about a month and sold it to get a 2GB.
I tried PQI 133x 2G, but failed. Now using Sandisk 2G without problem!
I'm using a Panasonic 1GB pro high speed (20 mb/s). No problems whatsoever.
I have just purchased a Sanddisk ultra ll 1.0gb storage card.
It works fine in my digital camera but when inserted into my spv m600 the device wont recognise it.
Is there a storage card limitation with the prophet and if so is there a way round it ?
I have similar problem with SD card Transcend 2 Gb x150. When I got 2 Gb TwinMOS x66 problem disappeared. I think the problem is the too high speed of card. Probably they can’t work at speed which is sufficient for Prophet.
Card problem?
Anybody else had sucess with the Transcend 2gb card x150? I was thinking of purchasing the 4gb version, at same speed, but now I'm not sure I want to waste my money.
Anybody else have a 4gig, can you name brand and speed pls?
I have used both the sandisk 1gb ultra II card and the sandisk 2 gb. Both work fine in my I-mate jamin. The ultra II is much faster, but i mostly use the 2gb card, cause I need more space. If they had a 2gb or 4 gb ultra II i would buy it also...I have also used the PNY 2 gb cards. They all work in my jasjar as well. But like i said, the ultra II works best.
You might need to re-format the card and then try it (not with the camera format option, but from the Jamin)
You can download a beta copy of pocket mechanic (good for 15 days without license) at www.antontomov.com go to forum and check pocket mechanic beta forum for latest version
Thanks eagle1
That's good news Eagle. What are the speeds of your two SD cards?
Anybody use a 4 gig non-sandisk card?
I'm using a Trandcend 150xSD 4 GB and it works great.
i am using an sandisk extreme III (150x) 1 GB and works great
Still no card showing
Thanks people for your posts and advice i have tried a few things including pocket mechanic but still have not managed to get my prophet to accept the Sandisk Ultra ll 1.0gb sd card.
If anyone comes up with a soloution or indeed has a SPV M600 with a working Sandisk Ultra ll 1.0gb please let me know.
Just off to e-mail Sandisk to see if they can help.
Thanks again for your posts.
It seems that high speed SD cards workability balanced on the edge with Prophet PDA’s. So best approach would be Try – Before – Buy. “Minor” problem would be to find store where this approach works for SD cards .
Has anyone tried A-Data 4gb 150x?
Has anyone tried A-Data 4gb 150x? I think this is the cheapest 4GB card out there, so I'm wondering if anyone has tried it on the prophet?
I have just started using a 4GB 'Topram 150x'. Seems to work OK, except can't directly save photos to the SD card. According to other posts, something to do with having more than 2GB of empty memory. However, can transfer photos from main memory to the SD card without any problems. Music and videos appear to store and play back without any problems
SD CARD NOW UP FOR SALE
Still no joy with my new sd card so decided to put it on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7612649443&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:UK:11
Had a word with the staff in the local pc world to let me try before i buy but no go, they said they would not give me my money back either unless the card was faulty. Not that i would buy one from there with the price they charge.
Will keep you all posted on what card i get to work with my SPV M600.
I'm confused
I'm really confused. How can it be that a particular Sandisk 150x speed works, and another one doesn't? Or one 4gb high-speed works, the other doesn't? I can't seem to find a pattern here. Its just random.
Re: I'm confused
krale said:
... I can't seem to find a pattern here. Its just random.
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My guess is the low speed threshold for high speed SD card actually randomly higher than the normal operation for Prophet hardware. In this case two high speed SD cards which are same type of same manufacture may have randomly different low speed threshold, what is out of concerns of manufacturer. Who would cares about low speed access ability? And now we have to go through risk of buying perfectly good SD card which may not work on our Prophet devices. I hate this.
Hi,
I'm using an Extrememory 2 GB and 4 GB SD-Card. No problems with my Jam aka Magician or XDA Neo aka Prophet.
andilein
pbeaco said:
can't directly save photos to the SD card. According to other posts, something to do with having more than 2GB of empty memory. However, can transfer photos from main memory to the SD card without any problems. Music and videos appear to store and play back without any problems
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I think the new ROMs have fixed that.
adeywatkins said:
I have just purchased a Sanddisk ultra ll 1.0gb storage card.
It works fine in my digital camera but when inserted into my spv m600 the device wont recognise it.
Is there a storage card limitation with the prophet and if so is there a way round it ?
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Ade,
You sure say no be old ROM you dey use?
Hi again here is my SPV M600 AKA Prophet Device info
ROM VERSION 2.10.1.22 WWE
ROM DATE 2/16/06
RADIO 02.07.20
PROTCOL 413.1.03
EXT 2.10.1.107
OPERATOR VERSION 13.10.1.107
Storage CardJ
Just found this on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7611242138 works out just under £60 for adata 4gb 200x MMC card which apparently has better compatibility.
I upgraded the ROM and I can now save my photos directly to the SD card as long as the picture resolution is 640 x 480 or less. For the higher resoltion photos I have to save to main memory. Can anyone make any sense of this?
Otherwise I am having no problems with the SD card. I am not about to go and buy another one, so I will just use my workaround of saving no main memory and copying to rthe SD card when memory is low.
Anybody know if This PDA can support 4GB miniSD?
Thanks.
The Wizard is miniSD compatible. miniSD is derived of the SD specification that support up to 2GB memory cards. 4GB cards are SDHC compatible derived of the SDHC specification. For this reason 4GB memory cards are not compatible with the wizard neither with TyTN. I don't know any 4GB miniSD card from any fame manufacturer.
More information on this link from SanDisk:
http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/pdf/retail/SDHC1.pdf
Thanks maca2406.
But, did you try?
Anybody try it and don't work?
Thanks
ive got a 4gb sd card working with mine..i got it as a present so im not sure where it's from since it hasnt got a name on it..but it does work..
Hello EgemenBor,
Not 4GB SD but 4GB miniSD card on a MDA Vario (or Wizard, Qtek 9100, Imate K-Jam), right?
Thanks
Nope, but maybe a generic product works, look this link:
http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=miniSD_4096mb_MOBY_002
I don't trust on non branded products then I can not respond your question. but is important to know that neighter fame manufacturer has 4GB miniSD cards for sale (ex. SanDisk, Kingston, etc).
From that SanDisk article:
2. Look for SDHC logo on card and packaging itself
a. GB SD cards without SDHC logo are non-compliant with the SDA 2.00
specification.
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Notice, they say "non-compliant" and NOT "non-existent." They are obviously cow-towing to device manufacturers here, plus expecting us to foot the bill!
The problems I've heard of with these cards are:
1.) They don't last as long. (Neither did 3.5" Low-Density Floppy Disks when formatted as High-Density, but I've still got a few originals hanging around that work....) It would be great to know what proccess they were using to create these drives as opposed to the 2GB ones....
2.) The card may need to be repartitioned into 2-2GB drives. (See this thread)
please remember that just because it doesn't meet the new standard, doesn't mean it doesn't work with the older standard-devices
I, for one, am grateful there are vendors serving this sub-market, even though the major players are moving on!
Thanks Blazoner.
Anybody have a miniSD 4GB card on a Wizard, that works well?
Thanks
maca2406 said:
Nope, but maybe a generic product works, look this link:
http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=miniSD_4096mb_MOBY_002
I don't trust on non branded products then I can not respond your question. but is important to know that neighter fame manufacturer has 4GB miniSD cards for sale (ex. SanDisk, Kingston, etc).
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I have 2 mobymemory cards 2gb and 1 gb both work v well - if mobymemory say this 4gb card will work i trust them - i will most likely get one!
I have said all along that i think a 4gb mini-sd card will work in the wizard as a 4gb sd card works in a prophet and they really have v similar roms. 4gb even works in a magician and that has an even older rom.
I base myself on what SanDisk says in this link in red:
http://www.sandisk.com/Compatibility/Device(8040)-T-Mobile-MDA_Vario.aspx
T-Mobile MDA Vario
(Mobile Phones)
Maximum capacity for this device: May support up to 2GB
Please check with your device manufacturer for details.
Also, SanDisk doesn't manufacture 4GB minisd cards. I have learned to pay attention to what SanDisk says
It would be necessary to check if to use more than 2gb works ok with the Wizard with this 4gb minisd card. Unfortunately I am in America and I don't have access to mobymemory devices.
maca2406 said:
I base myself on what SanDisk says in this link in red:
http://www.sandisk.com/Compatibility/Device(8040)-T-Mobile-MDA_Vario.aspx
T-Mobile MDA Vario
(Mobile Phones)
Maximum capacity for this device: May support up to 2GB
Please check with your device manufacturer for details.
Also, SanDisk doesn't manufacture 4GB minisd cards. I have learned to pay attention to what SanDisk says
It would be necessary to check if to use more than 2gb works ok with the Wizard with this 4gb minisd card. Unfortunately I am in America and I don't have access to mobymemory devices.
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I will let you know if it works when i get one
maca2406 said:
Nope, but maybe a generic product works, look this link:
http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=miniSD_4096mb_MOBY_002
I don't trust on non branded products then I can not respond your question. but is important to know that neighter fame manufacturer has 4GB miniSD cards for sale (ex. SanDisk, Kingston, etc).
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They claim it will work:
Mobile Compatibility List: New!QTEK 9100
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Anyone any experience with these cards?
I just buy one miniSD 4GB from Transcend (55€!)... I will check and post...
turns out I have the 4gb memory card from mobymemory...last couple of days its been giving me a lot of hassle..asking me to format it which I did twice and now its stopped working the phone just does red the card...I've emailed mobymemory 5 minutes ago lets see what they reply with..anybody else have the problem of the phone not 'seeing' the memory card?
EgemenBor said:
turns out I have the 4gb memory card from mobymemory...last couple of days its been giving me a lot of hassle..asking me to format it which I did twice and now its stopped working the phone just does red the card...I've emailed mobymemory 5 minutes ago lets see what they reply with..anybody else have the problem of the phone not 'seeing' the memory card?
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How long did it work ok? try formatting it on the device using sktools or storage tools
Take a look at this thread. It describes this problem and it's solutions in detail. Just read miniSD instead of SD.
Remember, it can still be compatible with the current standard, even if it doesn't comply with the new standard.
If all Fords are cars, does that mean all cars are Fords?
If all miniHDSC cards are 4GB or larger, does that mean all 4GB or larger memory cards are miniHDSC cards?
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Hi,
I receive my new miniSD 4GB card... but my Wizard don't recognize it!
Is a new SDHC and even my laptop with a pcmcia reader card (old) don't recognize too! But I think card is OK because with my Sanyo Xacti C6 work well!
What can I do? Can I make 2x 2GB partitions FAT 16... maybe Wizard work?
Thanks
well my phone isn't reading the memory card and when I try to access it via a card reader on my pc nothing happens...just gets stuck..could it be that the card is dead?
I've had the problem for the past week or so...the card in general was really slow I.e. uplaoding files and accessing the card on my pc would take a while..
I try format miniSDHC 4GB card with 2 partitions 2GB FAT16 but Wizard don't recognize it! Even my old pcmcia card reader can't "see" it! At laptop only work with a card reader that works with SDHC!
Any Help?
Thanks
By this experience, I think Wizard can't read any miniSDHC card unless HTC make a firmware update (will do sometime?) to support this new standard SDHC!
Anybody have better good news?
But, I can't understand why Qtek 9000 and S200 can read SD 4GB, like some persons report it!!!
Thanks