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VGA -> QVGA for selected apps?

Hi guys
I'm currently using Helmi's 3.5 on my (unlocked)SPV-M5000, orange Switzerland. I have true VGA enabled, and it works fine. However, I have some apps (especially, two games: Warring States and Viking Saga) that while running fine, use only the top left corner of the screen.
Searching the forums has shown that there are ways of having the whole system running in QVGA and selected apps use full VGA, but what I need is the opposite.
Is there a way to flag certain apps to use pixel doubling, while leaving the rest of the system to work normally in VGA?
Cheers
Rapax

the apps that can be selectively vga (for example pocket internet explorer in wm6) do it themselves, it's not a system-wide setting. so because the games are unaware of the vga-ness, you're out of luck.

But without some form of TrueVGA software installed, all apps run under Pixel Doubling, right? So I don't need to make the QVGA apps run in VGA, just somehow get an 'exception' from the TrueVGA software. No Luck?

A QVGA simulator, does it exist ?

Hi,
I don't know if it's due to the trueVGA resolution but many aplication doesn't work properly (especially games) on my Athena. I wonder if there isn't any QVGA simulator, I mean an application with which the QVGA application would work and would just be stretched on the VGA screen.
I hope that a such program exists !! (Or an another solution)
Thanks for any answer in advance.

disable true vga and you will get what you want

LG Home VGA

Is thear any way to get the LG ks 20 Home plugin work on VGA device ???

What device are you talking about?

i know thear is a lg home plugin for not lg device. you got it at xda dev´s by sing the search funktion.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342866&page=27
it work on lots of qvga pda´s with windows mobile 6.
but when i install it on my vga pda, thear is an error.
i need a new dll or something like that, what let the programm work on vga shreens

I want too, a vga version of the above plugin.
I own a qtek9000 (wm6).
Thanks in advance

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62200&d=1197935655
See if that one works... if it does, let me finish patching it

i can install it, but it looks so:

Ok, that means that my patch for it to work on WM5, makes it work on VGA devices too.
When I have the time, I'll increase the size of the graphics so that you can use it on VGA resolution. BTW: what's the standard VGA resolutions?

VGA = 640x480

What exactly is RealVGA and is every software available compatible with it??

I saw some i780 images with RealVGA and I just have to admit it was the best square screen I have even seen for a PPC. This seems precisely what I want for my screen. Could someone please explain what exactly is it, and how it works? and if all softwares are automatically compatible with it, or would I have to sacrifice my software collection in order to use it???
BTW, what screen resolutions does it work with and would my Treo 750 support it??

I always thought you needed a VGA screen to use realVGA or anything like that, so i don't think it would be possible on a treo. Then again i'm not entirely sure so i would wait for someone else to confirm.

RealVGA, essentially, makes everything smaller.
The point of this is to take advantage of a high resolution screen (since WM doesn't). In your case, it will probably make windows unusable as the 240x240 resolution would end up making text so small that it's illegible.
It's mainly meant for 640x480 screens although 480x480 as well as 320x320 screens appear to be usable.

RealVGA, or TrueVGA as I like to call it, basically disables pixel-doubling that WM uses to make all programs work well. This can really only be used on devices that have more pixels than 320x240. So a VGA screen of 640x480 will show 4x the about of data in TrueVGA mode as it would in normal mode.
The downside is that not all programs will work properly. This is a developer issue, and it is best to contact them to resolve this problem. I would suggest putting your device into TrueVGA mode and trying out the programs that you use, and see if you are happy with the results.
I have put a package together in the link below that you can use for testing purposes, and see if it is something you like or not.
Personally I only every use my device in TrueVGA mode as I hate the lost space as a result of the large icons on my x51v. But it will come down to personal preference and you are best to try and see for yourself.
Cheers
Mark

prabhg said:
I saw some i780 images with RealVGA and I just have to admit it was the best square screen I have even seen for a PPC. This seems precisely what I want for my screen. Could someone please explain what exactly is it, and how it works? and if all softwares are automatically compatible with it, or would I have to sacrifice my software collection in order to use it???
BTW, what screen resolutions does it work with and would my Treo 750 support it??
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RealVGA actually changes your dpi. The stock i780 is using 128dpi which is something not common. Most devices are using 96 dpi. I believe RealVGA was written is to maximize the available screen. Of course with 96 dpi, the letters are also smaller, and it might pose some difficulty in readin texts on the screen.
However, others are still using RealVGa mainly one can maximize the screen. Also, the display though small, makes it look more sharp.
As to the programs, I'm not sure what you have. For myself, I am using PocketCM (modded to fit in the i780), Audio Manager and the Diamond WM Player Skin (modded to fit in the i780). I also installed the HTC Today plugin.
I also had modded SPB Mobile Shell 2.1 (I've since uninstalled it), I have SBSH Weather (using slikkie's sbsh weather skin). Quite a few software can run under RealVGA, it depends on what you have actually.
Hope this helps.

after install realVGA, my i780 can't make or receive VIDEO CALL

monyozt said:
after install realVGA, my i780 can't make or receive VIDEO CALL
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Search for the nadavi 3g dialer for i780. Install and you will be able to make video calls.

QVGA programs to WVGA

My question is simple...
I have been using QVGA screen devices for a long time and I have invested a good ammount on softwares that display well on QVGA screens.
Now I'm thinking of doing an upgrade and I have pinpointed the HD as my next device, but since I have invested a lot money on softwares, I don't want to upgrade to a new phone and find all these softwares unusable on a WVGA screen.
Will the programs designed for QVGA display properly on a WVGA screen?
My common sense tells me that no, it won't but I have read that it will display without problems.
Any thoughts anyone?

where did you read that it will display with no problems?

Very few apps are made for WVGA and I cannot image that HTC lets this be a show stopper, since it will take years and years before WVGA is as standard as QVGA is.
The same goes for VGA though, which is also just catching on in mainstream, yet my VGA Diamond has no problems running anything whatsoever. Some QVGA apps just get blown up to fit the screen and run just like on a QVGA screen, yet I wonder how this would work when the aspect ratio is no longer 4:3 (as with QVGA, HVGA and VGA) but instead 16:9 (WVGA). Stretching is ugly so with apps that need to maintain the aspect ratio (anything other than apps that can resize infinitely like Operah, Windows Mobile etc) we would likely see black boxes on top of and below the app.

Copy pasted one of my own old posts from another topic, which had the same question but for VGA on the Raphael.
WM has a so-called compatibility mode. If an app is not specifically compiled to tell WM it knows about resolution and DPI settings, WM presents your device to the program as 240x320 QVGA. This way, most QVGA apps simply run on VGA. (And I can verify that at least on the Diamond, most apps just work). WM then simply scales the application to fill the screen. (One way to notice if this is happening with an app is that you can see the text is smooth and looks high-res, except on the menu bar at the bottom)
Actually that was quite a nice move of MS. However, there is a bug with compatibility mode and 320x320 devices (like the Treo800w) that prevents some apps from running. Luckily, the Raphael is not one of those devices.
However, of course, some apps do tell WM they know about resolution and DPI, but aren't made to support 480x640 devices like the Axim v51, Diamond and Raphael, those apps may look weird (though they don't seem to be numerous), but generally still work.
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If I recall correctly, however, non-resolution/dpi-aware applications ran on odd resolutions like WVGA for the Touch HD are still represented as 320x240, and will be stretched to use the entire screen (in other words: fugly). I know this is the case for 320x320, and I think it would be a safe bet to assume the same for 480x800.
For applications that are resolution/dpi-aware, it all depends on how the developers did it. Black border at the bottom and top, correctly scaled, etc, it's all possible and completely up to how the developer handled this in their code.

Chainfire
Thanks for the answer.
That was very well explained.
What I read that it won't have problems was perhaps with the fact that WM will stretch the program to fit the screen, but it wasn't as well explained as your post.
So now I know that it's possible that half of my programs will be stretched on the screen and it will look crappy, the other half will have black borders around...

WVGA Themes
I just wonder if all the (beautiful) themes created for Diamond will be correctly displayed with the Touch HD ?
As I'm creating my own (for Diamond) and first one, I hope I can use it with the HD WVGA screen.
Thanx for informations.

WVGA has the same aspect ratio of the WQVGA
WVGA 480x800 (Touch HD, Sony XPERIA)
WQVGA 240x400 (Samsung Omnia)
Being an owner of a Samsung Omnia I found out that there are very few software that wont run on non a standard QVGA resolution.
Good thing about it is that most important and recently updated software do take into consideration the modern variable display sizes and aspect ratios.
This is a promising trend, software companies tend to release fixes/upgrades for their software for these new resolutions
So I wouldnt worry so much!
ydg said:
I just wonder if all the (beautiful) themes created for Diamond will be correctly displayed with the Touch HD ?
As I'm creating my own (for Diamond) and first one, I hope I can use it with the HD WVGA screen.
Thanx for informations.
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I recently installed Manilla2d on the omnia, the themes have to be modified for the omnias resolution 240x400 images, backgrounds, icon possitions etc, therefore no theme for diamond will be directly usable with the touch hd, there will have to be modifications on them to work

mkMoSs said:
I recently installed Manilla2d on the omnia, the themes have to be modified for the omnias resolution 240x400 images, backgrounds, icon possitions etc, therefore no theme for diamond will be directly usable with the touch hd, there will have to be modifications on them to work
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With this Forum and community and the other WVGA topphone Xperia, these forums will be soon filled with people working on these modifications....
I am not worried at all about this

You can try Force high resolution. You can find it at pocketpcfreeware.com.