orange thumbwheel menu util - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

hi
been using an orange m3100 and really like the thumbwheel menu on the today screen. loads easier than the standard windows menu.
anyone know what its called and where i can get hold of it for my vario II
cheers

To be honest mate the new orange today plugin is a continuation of the bespoke orange today screen that all orange branded mobiles/devices come preinstalled with now. I never used to like it but after the pocket plus problems Ive had its a better option.
Im not too sure if its possible to get it vario 2.

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can use o2 exec with orange but

cant connect to internet, am i missing a setting that needs to be changed when using an orange sim (from my p900) instead of the o2 sim
Yes, you would need to make a new alternative connection prodile within the handset. I think the only setting required is the orange access point name which I THINK is orangeinternet
Im sure someone with an Orange contrat could clarify this
orange web access
Hi,
I have a T mobile mda (magician) unlocked running on Orange. The access point name is orangeinternet. Works fine for 2.5g! Looking forward to 3g soon.
Richard Racer
thanks for help no chance to try today but will try tomorrow
just tried it when i got home from work (shouldnt really as i,ve only got till 11 to sleep before starting again till 9 am tomorrow)#
anyway it works

M5000 or Exec

About to buy a Universal .. currently with Orange ..but.. are there any strong reasons for moving to O2? Obviously hardware is the same, but is running the exec in corporate mode going to be significantly different to Orange?
Thanks!
just prefer the black xda exec, and i got a better free minutes deal with O2 (500mins free xnetwork)
In a post somewhere on this forum someone asked a question about the M5000 and installing software that suggested to me that Orange locks their machines to stop you installing unapproved (unsigned?) 3rd-party software.
I may have got the wrong end of the stick, of course :roll: but if it's true then that would be one major reason to steer clear of the M5000 IMHO. :shock: This user's post seemed to imply that Orange have sold other handsets with the same lock applied, so if you're already with Orange then you may know the answer to this question already.
my experience with orange is this....
been with them for a couple years, had a spv e200 then a m1000. i switched to o2 last week because :-
1) had terrible signal at home
2) the m5000 is bloody expensive on orange, paid 90 quid for the exec on o2 business tarrif, 35 quid pm
just my 2 cents
interesting about locking it from 3rd party software .. only ever had standard phones through orange so not come across this before .. currently got an ipaq and want the same freedom to install what I want!
The thing I do like about orange is their customer service .. has always impressed me, and they have always given me good tariffs to keep me with them..
O2 hands down. Orange even puts more crap software and all sort of locking into their phones than O2. I always avoid Vodafone and Orange like plague.
currently with am orange, upgraded from the m1000 to m5000
they give 1000mb data a month for the next tree months and 30 video calls
I paid nothing for my upgrade and am on a £25.00 amonth tariff.
I currently have tomtom 5.1, battary pack pro, pocketweather, tcpmp player
audio recorder, adobe reader, etc
all installed with no problems apart from tomtom 5.1 which involved some twicking.
i have installed all kinds of games for testing and %90 pesent of them worked ok.
i use my pda 80% of the time for Live emails, podcast stuff, downloaded tv episode watching and 20% making calls.
:wink:
toucam said:
O2 hands down. Orange even puts more crap software and all sort of locking into their phones than O2. I always avoid Vodafone and Orange like plague.
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What software does Orange put on? I thought it was just their wheat theme.
Has anyone managed to dump the M5000 rom?
Southern_Man said:
What software does Orange put on? I thought it was just their wheat theme.
Has anyone managed to dump the M5000 rom?
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I have the M5000 - I really want to upgrade my ROM, or at least do something that will speed up my Universal! It has dog-slow response rendering it useless for 50% of the time.
Surely there can't be any software that prevents ROM upgraded? The whole point of a ROM upgrade is that software is wiped. And unless there's any weird SIM interaction, this sounds impossible.
Anyway, I'm slightly worried about doing it, as it would void Orange warranty, and there's no Orange ROM available to put it back on if it goes wrong!
Anyone with more info on the M5000 - come forward, it would be great to hear from you!
TIA
Mat
Disable the orange plugin from the today screen, and also error reporting (if not already)
The orange plugin slows it down, and with it diabled, my m5000 is marvellous!
That sounds good - if Orange only use a plugin, is nice and easy to disable. Sounds better than having to install the O2 EXEC into corporate mode??
Thanks

I’ve done it, I’ve just ordered a T-Mobile MDA Vario!

I’ve done it, I’ve just ordered a T-Mobile MDA Vario, it should be here tomorrow, I cant wait!!!
I’m new to this forum and new to the world of Windows Mobile Devices, however I am far from a novice with SmartPhones.
I have been a big fan of SonyEricsson for many years and am currently looking for a new phone, but lately have lost my feel for SE and have discovered then marvel that is the Wizard!!! Wow, I’m so much going to have one of them!!!
I’ve been reading through this forum and well what can I say, what a fantastic resource, well done!
But what I really want to know is: software? I know the MDA Vario is T-Mobile branded, but what restrictions do they impose on you?
I’m a great believer that hardware developers know what they are doing and Phone Network Operators should leave the software well alone. I have read about unlocking the phone and moving Cab files etc, but what I would really want is to flash it with its “pure” software, is this possible and easy to do and how do I then set up my MMS and GPRS setting?
And am I correct in understanding what I’ve read, that, an out the box MDA Vario wont run ActiveSync?
Thanks in advance
Nick
Nick, an excellent choice of name, and an excellent choice of device
The units ROMs all seem to be largely the same, it's the extended ROM which is different.
T-Mobile's extended ROM installs a load of customisations such as wallpapers, GPRS settings, etc... Nothing seems to hinder you particularly badly , however if you don't want it, hard reset then do a soft reset before it installs the customisations. You then have a virgin machine
The only lock is a simlock, which means that you have to use a T-Mobile SIM with the device. Lokiwiz, a free unlocker, gets around this nicely with thanks to Machinagod, and all those whose work he improved
Oh, and activesync works fine with it, providing you haven't got any weird firewalls running
Welcome to the world of windows mobile
I have had my Vario for about a week and a half now.
If you used the P910 like I did, you will miss the jog wheel utility desperately. A brilliant device that was only let down by the lack of symbian (UIQ) development (it's harder to program.
I used to have a compaq 2210 and ran Pocketinformant. I've just reloaded it on my unit. It's brilliant, you give up a lot for the jog wheel but you welcome back the world of 'drag and drop' and 'double tap'.
If you use a PIM then Pocketinformant cannot be beaten.
Incidently make sure you load activesync 4.1 on your pc, providing you set your catergories in your outlook master list to the same as your device, syncing is superb.
good luck :lol:
I've just switched to Vodafone with an expansys contrct deal after four years with T-Mobile. They (T-Mobile) told me six weeks ago, they'd no idea what a Vario was, and had no information that they were going to get them even though Germany had announced them to the press. Expansys had the 9100 on Voda so off I went. The Vodafone "data" bundle which is SMS or MMS or GPRS out of the same pot is better for me than T-Mobile who would only offer web'n'walk *and* a separate SMS/MMS bundle :-(
Vodafone have been fine, but the SMS voicemail alerts that don't activate the little "tape" message waiting icon really annoys me... ;-)
Dox..
I have also gone from a P900 to XDA mini. Its a bit of a transition and can agree - the wheel on the P900 was a luxury I do miss but there are alot moe benefits
Now - just need to try and work out if I can change the whole ROM from the O2 one
Scott
Thanks for all the info fellas, cant wait for it to be delivered…
Excuse my ignorance, but, the ROM, is that the basic OS and the extender ROM is just the individual network customizations?
I will almost certainly, as a matter of principle, do the SIM unlock, but what is the purpose of the CID unlock?
And, if I do the Hard reset Soft reset trick how will I set up my GPRS and MMS?
Sorry about all the questions, but I’m very inquisitive.
Hopefully this will also be helping fellow novices.
Thanks again everyone.
You can enter the settings manually, which if you have them in front of you is fairly simple. If you need to know what they are (I've entered Vodafone's so often for people at work I can do them in my sleep, but don't know the T-Mobile ones), google is your friend. To simplify the whole thing, Raphael over at BeyondTheTech has the cab file with the settings in here for you to download and install as normal.
If you're not going to let the rest of the extended ROM install, put this on a memory card in case you want to run it again after a hard reset..
Dox.
I too like to have a fiddle (I had an original O2 XDA and this site was fantastic for upgrading to later version OS) but so far I can't see any compelling reason not to use the T-Mobile UK custo ROM as shipped.
The only addition I've made is MS Voice with the associated Reg change to allow use with BT headset.
Obviously if there is a superior ROM out there please let us know what is recommended?
Thanks
Nick, check out the wiki which has loads of info about roms, extended roms, radio roms and all that good stuff. Not a huge amount is specific to the Wizard yet, but the information applies all the same.
Has it arrived yet, or are you sitting by the front door like an eager puppy waiting for the postman or newspaper boy (or girl, thank you Stan)
Unfortunately I’m at work today and they would only deliver to my home address
AND they need a signature, so first thing tomorrow morning I’ll be stud outside my local Postal Depot waiting for it to open…..
Oh I hate waiting!!!
Welcome to Vario-ness !
Not coming from a previous PPC platform, you won't suffer the same way i did, by installing all the apps i used on my MDA Compadt some of which may not have been compatable with WM5. That ended up with me having a poor view on the Vario.
Fear not though, i've since seen the error of my ways, thanks to the fine folks on this forum...
I have an XDA II, and would like to update if there is a significant improvement.
I have read from the t-mobile site that the Vario does not have vibrate or voice dialling. Is this true, can Fonix be installed?
The most vital things I use are the outlook contacts, calender, isilo reader and avant go. I guess all standard apps that work on windows mobile 2003 work on 5 right?
How big is the screen?
Thanks for any help.
Well, that just goes to show that T-Mobile don't have a clue, really, doesn't it? I thought you must be mistaken, but sure enough it says that it doesn't support voice dial, and doesn't vibrate either.
It does. On both counts. The vibrate is a lot better than the xda2s in that it almost dislocates a hip when it goes off, and voice dialing works very well. With a quick registry hack, voice dialing works with bluetooth headsets too
Some have found the vario sluggish in comparison to the xda 2; i find it to be comparable to the blue angel (2s) that I had running wm2005 - bear in mind you're reading/writing all files from flash rather than RAM, and that explains the performance.
The screen is 2.8 inches diagonal.
Have any of you got vibrate working on M3000 (Orange)?
I have an M3000 from Orange Switzerland, and cannot get my vibrate to work at all.
Not to get 'off topic' but T-Mobile Czech republic were about to sell me a MDA Vario and at the last moment I noticed a sticker on the box saying it doesn't support character recognizer or transcriber .. anyone know if this FOR ME huge negative can be reversed so I can handwrite sms as MDA II let me .. (perfect solution for me)
kgary said:
Not to get 'off topic' but T-Mobile Czech republic were about to sell me a MDA Vario and at the last moment I noticed a sticker on the box saying it doesn't support character recognizer or transcriber .. anyone know if this FOR ME huge negative can be reversed so I can handwrite sms as MDA II let me .. (perfect solution for me)
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Both work fine for me on a UK MDA Vario, I don't know why the czech would be different. I must say however that I rarely use them because the slide out keyboard is SO sweet.
On a side note, my brother just picked up the same phone on O2 and personally I like the O2 customisations a lot better than the T-mobile ones. Especially the multiple today screen functionality.
Is it possible to install O2 extended rom and keep t-mobile comms settings? I've only just started to look into this so does anyone with any experience with this have any tips?
Thanks

Is there a way to make the extended rom visibable?

I have a t-mobile MDA, and want to use the empty space left on the extended rom like I used to on my old pocket pc (hp 6315). Is this possible? I kinda' remember seeing a post like that here a while back but I can not find it any more. I appreciate any help.
-T-
judging from your icon and you saying MDA
makes one believe it's a walliby and they have
no extented rom at all
No, T-Mobile MDA (the new one).
I have a T-Mobile MDA, the newly release one. I will have to check my profile and change that icon.
T-mobile makes a few MDA and the new one could be old in some countries, can you be a bit more to the point as in what type.
t-mobile MDA
It is the same as the qtek 9100, and the htc wizard.

Orange Branding + Misc.

Hello,
i just switched from an Xperia X1 (which was quite disappointing) to the HD. I bought mine off of ebay, however it was originally with orange (im a uk resident). I then unlocked it to all networks (as i am currently on O2). The problems i have are the following:
- As i remember from my xperia, the phone automatically found my O2 data connection and configured itself. This however tells me that my carrier is not in its database.
- When the phone starts up it displays the orange logo, and since it is on orange, it does not have msn messenger.
Is there a way to get it back to the original settings, as if i bought it completely unbranded?
Thanks in advance.
Hard Reset?
Hi, would a hard reset not sort this out?
Hold volume up and volume down and press the power button (when the phone is off) Then confirm you want to reset.
Hope it works.
i browsed a bit on the forum and apparently i need to flash a new rom. which is the latest WWE out there? i found 1.19.831.0, but mine is 1.19.61.1, so it would lead me to believe i have a newer one.
any suggestions?
tony1985 said:
Hello,
i just switched from an Xperia X1 (which was quite disappointing) to the HD. I bought mine off of ebay, however it was originally with orange (im a uk resident). I then unlocked it to all networks (as i am currently on O2). The problems i have are the following:
- As i remember from my xperia, the phone automatically found my O2 data connection and configured itself. This however tells me that my carrier is not in its database.
- When the phone starts up it displays the orange logo, and since it is on orange, it does not have msn messenger.
Is there a way to get it back to the original settings, as if i bought it completely unbranded?
Thanks in advance.
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Mine's from Orange with MSN Messenger
Have they stopped it now?
Yea You just need to reflash the device, If you go through the wiki you will find the latest stock rom and if your feeling adventurous read into hard spl and some of the custom roms on this site.
tony1985 said:
Hello,
i just switched from an Xperia X1 (which was quite disappointing) to the HD. I bought mine off of ebay, however it was originally with orange (im a uk resident). I then unlocked it to all networks (as i am currently on O2). The problems i have are the following:
- As i remember from my xperia, the phone automatically found my O2 data connection and configured itself. This however tells me that my carrier is not in its database.
- When the phone starts up it displays the orange logo, and since it is on orange, it does not have msn messenger.
Is there a way to get it back to the original settings, as if i bought it completely unbranded?
Thanks in advance.
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Who did you use to unlock it (£) ?
My Orange branded HD came with Messenger installed too.
The only thing i can see that it was missing was google maps.

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