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After owning it for 5 month, I got rid of my Qtek 9100, it turned out a piece of junk..
First the Mail and Internet Explorer keys peeled off, then the gray paint on the sides peeled off, then the keyboard became loose, then the stylus began to fell off by itself...
I don't know what my next PPC will be, I am looking into something more rigid now.
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I got rid of my Qtek 9100, it turned out a piece of junk..
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Blasphemy...... and in a wizard forum!
I know what you mean though - maybe a prophet will do you, some times i think i would have preferred a prophet being slimmer more rigid and 2mp camera. But today when writing a long text. i know why i like the wizard - the keyboard
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After owning it for 5 month, I got rid of my Qtek 9100, it turned out a piece of junk..
First the Mail and Internet Explorer keys peeled off, then the gray paint on the sides peeled off, then the keyboard became loose, then the stylus began to fell off by itself...
I don't know what my next PPC will be, I am looking into something more rigid now.
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Alrighty - Dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Exactly what did you hope to achieve by coming here and posting? Were you hoping to justify your decision to yourself.
Bratag said:
naughty said:
After owning it for 5 month, I got rid of my Qtek 9100, it turned out a piece of junk..
First the Mail and Internet Explorer keys peeled off, then the gray paint on the sides peeled off, then the keyboard became loose, then the stylus began to fell off by itself...
I don't know what my next PPC will be, I am looking into something more rigid now.
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Alrighty - Dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Exactly what did you hope to achieve by coming here and posting? Were you hoping to justify your decision to yourself.
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I just wanted to share my disappointment. I will talk to you after you own the Wizard for 5 months, PM me then with feedback.
Well I've had mine for 6 now, and here's my experiences...
- it's slower than expected ( yes, I could overclock, but really.. I don't want it faster that badly )
- the paint peeled off the IE/Mail/Soft key buttons.. ah well, big deal - the mail button goes to the start menu and the IE button clicks on the app close button, so the icons don't match my functions anyway.
- no paint peeled off the sides yet
- no loose stylus yet (I tend to collapse it before inserting it - maybe that reduces stress on the part that breaks off?)
All in all, I'm quite happy with it. Sure, I would've liked it faster, and maybe 640x480 would've been nice (and built-in GPS, FM radio, a 3.5mm headphones plug, better volume on hands-free (oddly, an episode of stargate I put on there plays quite loudly - so it should be possible.. haven't tried those reghacks yet), maybe a scroll wheel, and a 2-3MP decent camera would've been plusses)... but here's the thing... None of the devices out there that fit that bill (to greater or lesser extent) appeal to me. They're either even bulkier and less practical to me (e.g. Universal) or their button layout irks me (Magician, and upcoming 'Wizard replacement' Hermes), etc. Form-factor wise, the Wizard suits me best, and that's why I got it - the slightly slower performance (I noticed it in the store) wasn't so much an issue for me.. I'm not using it to play the latest 3D game.
I have had my QTEK 9100 since January and I have to say that it is the best phone I have ever owned. Of course it is my first Pocket PC so that doesn’t give me much to compare to. It does have some small issues but overall, I am glad I bought it. I am also experiencing the stylus fallout issue but plan to try the suggestion offered in another thread once I receive my replacement stylus next week. No issues yet with the paint but that is not important to me because I have reprogrammed most of the buttons to perform another function anyway. I also find it a pain to have to hard reset when upgrading the ROM or sometimes the device just starts acting weird (like windows 9x) so I just reformat it. Long process but it works. I would have to say that this device is not friendly enough yet for the average consumer but this forum has been a great help with resolving issues and offering tips. I think I would have gone nuts if it weren’t for this forum! The QTEK website is useless for help or ROM updates so I will likely not get another QTEK but will consider the same model from another manufacturer.
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The QTEK website is useless for help or ROM updates so I will likely not get another QTEK but will consider the same model from another manufacturer.
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I just updated to last ROM using Qtek website, all what you have to do is registering your IMEI in their site, and then you can download any new ROM for free with instructions how to do it, plus there is area fo registered users where you can download Tonerings, games, appz etc... for free. Just wanted to defend Qtek Site and clearing this misunderstanding.
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After owning it for 5 month, I got rid of my Qtek 9100, it turned out a piece of junk..
First the Mail and Internet Explorer keys peeled off, then the gray paint on the sides peeled off, then the keyboard became loose, then the stylus began to fell off by itself...
I don't know what my next PPC will be, I am looking into something more rigid now.
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Thanks for sharing your experience.
I had the same paint problem with Himalaya device (qtek2020). I suppose this is due to wet hands I also have the same problem with my notebook ASUS M2Ne. But the problem is solved by annual ordering of the case for notebook and I suppose you can order cases for your handhelds too.
As for now, I don't have any problems as you did with wizard. I will try to be careful with mentioned areas
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keitht said:
The QTEK website is useless for help or ROM updates so I will likely not get another QTEK but will consider the same model from another manufacturer.
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I just updated to last ROM using Qtek website, all what you have to do is registering your IMEI in their site, and then you can download any new ROM for free with instructions how to do it, plus there is area fo registered users where you can download Tonerings, games, appz etc... for free. Just wanted to defend Qtek Site and clearing this misunderstanding.
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Wish it was that easy... tried that and they claim my number is not valid and that I need to contact the vendor where I purchased for updates... well that vendor is EBAY so I am SOL on that. So I rely on this site for my updates.
@keitht :
I guess that the person - who sold this to you - registered the IMEI already therfore you have to know his Username and Password to login, or tell him to delete the IMEI from his account, then you can register your imei for your account.
I don't know if you can reach the seller anyway, but I think this is what happened and this what can be done to solve this problem.
BTW I am happy with the Wizard, but this is only my 3rd day using it , that means this thread doesn't count me.
with regards to the paint peeling off... no, that's not normal, really. If you want these things to last, then you don't use decals (cheap keyboards use these... you'll see the letters 'chip' off) or paint (slightly more expensive keyboards.. the letters will fade) - you use cut-outs or impregnation. On the Wizard, for example, check the green/red phone buttons (when they're not backlit). Those will never fade or chip, as they're cut-outs.
Note that they could have used cut-outs for the other buttons as well, but cut-outs are slightly more expensive, and it would be even more expensive once you factor in branding (e.g. T-Mobile would need a whole special cut-out for their HotSpots icon instead of the IE icon - whereas now, that's just a different stamp)
However, even given that it's not normal - it *is* common, and I've just come to expect it from anything that uses decals/paints for any graphics/lettering. You lean to live with it, unfortunately
I have had more than 10 different pocket pc's and 2 different pocket pc phones in the last 5 years and have to say that my Qtek 9100 is my favorite handheld device yet. It has a great battery life, does not lose data if the battery dies, works great as a web browsing tool, computer, and phone, and also works remarkebly well with bluetooth. I find it to be the first converged device I have owned that I can just use, without having to constantly fuss with it to make it work. It is far from perfect, but definitely good enough for my purposes so that when I travel I do not need to carry my laptop, as it fulfills all my computing needs, albeit with a slightly less than ideal user experience. I am more than willing to put up with the minor idiosyncracies of the device when I consider how many devices it can fill the gap for.
I'm using my Wizard for 7 months now, and it's definitely the best PDA/phone I've ever had. Ok, the build quality isn't on par with brands like Sony-Ericsson or Samsung, but the functionality makes up for everything. I use it for push-mail, navigating, browsing, contacts and calendar. When traveling by train, I hook it up to my laptop and use it as a GPRS-modem (I've got flat-fee GPRS from T-Mobile), zo I'm connected to the internet and the office. I use it at home on the sofa for browsing and MSN when my wife is watching stuff I really don't wanna watch (like soaps). In my car it's used as a navigation device (Adapt 300 GPS) and it's connected with my BT Logitech headset.
The paint hasn't scraped off anywhere, but the stylus comes loose too easy (a single wrap of tape around the black tip works fine).
Great phone, I'd cry if I had to miss it
I have the K-Jam since october 2005, so almost 8 month now.
For me it is also the best PDA in years.
It's the first PDA that lasts longer than half a year with me. :lol:
And I don't even see a suitable successor in the near future.
I don't face the problems with paint peeling off.
Ok, the mail and the IE button have faded a little, but that's all.
And, of course, the speed isn't everything, it could be improved.
The stylus is a little loose, but it doesn't falls out (yet)
And I am very, very pleased with the pushmail and A2DP.
I've had my Vario for around 6 months now, and don't see any of the problems the thread starter has found.
I treat my phone with care amd respect, in return it keeps all its paint on for me.
It may be true that the Vario build quality is not a patch on the MDA Compact, but it's still in good condition.
I've had my vario now for 3 months and the main problem I have with it is the stylus not holding as well as it did when it was new. No paint peeling off etc.
It may only be a 195mhz processor, but it is faster than my Treo 650 with a 312mhz processor.
I've used most of the Treos' and this is my first device on the 'dark side'! The treo is simpler to use, but the wizard was the closest I could get with the same size form. Unfortunately for Palm, WM5 is streets ahead of Palm os - maybe that is why they released the 700w.
Anyway, the 700 is not an option for me in the UK.
Connecting to 2 bluetooth devices at the same time, stereo bluetooth capability - all things treo 650 users wanted, multitasking - the list goes on. I can see me upgrading to the 3G version of the wizard when it's time to upgrade my phone in the future, in a little over a year.
When I was given the phone by T-Mobile, I wasn't going to use it, and just use my Treo 650, but the more I read about the vario and then used it, the more I liked it.
The wizard rocks.
I LOVE everything abouth my wizard! I'll upgrade only to wizard with microdrive (when ever it be)!
My 8125 is my first "Dark Side" device too. I've never been happier. The only thing I miss about PalmOS was the wonderful screen realestate on my Tungsten T3.
I've punished the case on mine pretty badly too and it's never chipped or peeled. The only thing that happened was that little rubber "foot" on the battery cover came off. I wonder if the various style of Wizard cases are built by different manufacturers? That could account for this.
hi there,
i'm new in this forum and i'm going to get a trinity shortly but i've read here some problems with touch screen or audio problem...
At the end, how much are you happy with your trinity? should you buy it again?
Thanks all
bye
pretty damn happy, best phone I've ever owned.
If I was buying new I would however go for the white version, the black still has issues with flaking paint.
I have a white one, great pda phone!!!
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At the end, how much are you happy with your trinity?
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Compared to what? In comparision to my wife the Trinity means nothing to me... Regarding all other things: I am very happy... better battery and this device would be my last phone.
Very good machine
The problems you're referring to are fairly minor; Using the touch screen does slow down the running of the machine whilst the screen is being touched. This doesn't affect generally tapping/dragging/etc, but it only really noticeable when you're playing games that require dragging around the screen a lot. The audio problem seems to be that there's less bass reproduction if you install one of the "GPS fixed" ROMS (although I believe one of the ROMs now has a patch for this).
These are fairly minor issues though, other than that, it's a superb machine. Good size/weight, and very good performance. The added bonus of GPS (if you install the new ROMs) makes it a unique machine on the market.
Lee
for me it is only a cell or pda...
i'm happy for other important thing
wishmaster... yes, i agree with you... but if you are in this forum to read these thread something tells me that it's more than a simple cell (otherway get a 50€ (30£) motorola )...
Best PDA phone I've used. I gave a way my Tytn after getting my Trinity. If you don't need/want a keyboard, it is great.
Black peeling, D-pad and OK button are failing
Failing buttons forced me to use scroll wheel and 2nd OK button. I like the phone even more now
Waiting for HTC to get the bugs worked out before I send it in for repair.
I am really happy with my white Trinity since I installed the second Dopod rom and enabled the GPS feature. I cannot think of anything that my device does not do that is expected of a modern mobile phone.
It is the complete article as far as I am concerned.
It looks cool, is small enough not to look stupid when making calls, and is packed with a great operating system and software, and to top it all it is fully customisable to suit my needs and requirements.
No complaints here at all.
Ok then, just one.....When will Orange release the official rom update for the Gps to work on Trinity's that were purchased before they released them?
That for me would be the icing on the cake.
The phone rocks - can harldy keep my hands off it
It still ok but I'm not really happy.
htc still does not offer a gps update, the black coat is peeling off (already after one week!!!) and it has a bad w-lan adapter (bad signal and no working auto-detection wether the network uses WEP, WPA or WPA2 or a mix)
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I am really happy with my white Trinity since I installed the second Dopod rom and enabled the GPS feature. I cannot think of anything that my device does not do that is expected of a modern mobile phone.
It is the complete article as far as I am concerned.
It looks cool, is small enough not to look stupid when making calls, and is packed with a great operating system and software, and to top it all it is fully customisable to suit my needs and requirements.
No complaints here at all.
Ok then, just one.....When will Orange release the official rom update for the Gps to work on Trinity's that were purchased before they released them?
That for me would be the icing on the cake.
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Funny situation. the rom is available in Orange France, but the phone is no more available. And the rom seems to not be available in Uk, but the phone is available.
Happy, but it is my first day
Got my (white) SPV M700 this morning and within 1 hour I:
1- Connected to Activesync & synchronised my contacts, calendar, notes, emails...etc.
2- I went into the favorit > Sat Nav & downloaded Orange's Sat Nav program (It woked a treat - No ROM flashing or anything ) It actually guided me back home.
3- Called Orange & asked them to unlock my phone so I can use my O2 SIM.
It is a lovely piece of kit (Phone, PDA, Camera, GPS, 3G, WiFi) All in one sexy machine that happens to be 100% compatible with my BMW's BT (it downloaded the entire contacts list (500 of them) to the car's computer.
When I got home I've played with it a bit, then put it on my desk and wheeped at its beauty
The PDA part is ok, a little bit slow but bearable. Although I'm having problem with the phone part mainly getting disconnected when trying to answer the phone and sometimes it wont connect even if I have a full bar.
The best phone i've ever had. All in one: Phone, PDA, GPS, Camera.
I'll put it this way: I can't think of a better phone at the moment... It's got ALL anyone could ask for, in a very decent size. It's not perfect but keep in mind that it's a fairly recent model, and I have no doubt we'll get there.
The only thing I could wish for that's not there yet is a multi-touchscreen (cf. iPhone but not only), and as far as I know there's nothing on the market yet with that feature.
Thumbs up for you guys too, I discovered this site through a friend (just making my first posts, hi everyone) and I'm amazed by the quantity (and quality) of hard work you've all already put in to solving the existing problems and making things better for all. Keep up the good work, and big cheers...
My comparison is with a BlueAngel which I recently lost. Small form factor, brilliant display, noticeably faster wireless, great camera. IMHO the Trinity is a serious device...only problem now is what to do with my external GPS!
Its Awesome
I've had mine for about a week, I have the white, its so cool!!!!!
I had the 838pro before this which made it a bit bulky and heavy with the keyboard which I don't miss.
All in all, its a great PDA/Phone
Now next challenge, setting up Push Email.
R.
I am newbie in this forum, in general i am pretty satisfied with my HTCP3600i! However, i sometimes find it a bit lagging...just you know it's Samsung CPU not Intel.....i once had a thought of go for Atom Life in place, but ended i chose HTC, the reason is i've heard a lot negative comments about Atom's product batter life in a word Short!!
Has some flaws : No wm6, no minisdHC, no standard audio jack. wm6 and minisdhc I hope they'll correct
Day 1
Dear Diary,
I was so excited to receive my very first WinMo phone yesterday from Vodafone UK. I have been using Symbian OS phones before, and where they did the job, I found myself needing more from a device to fiddle with, and also to help with my new business I have set up.
I gave explicit instructions to my girlfriend to plug it into the mains so it’s all charged up ready from work.
5:30pm came and a rush back home to start playing with my new toy!
Well, firstly what an amazing looking phone. The feel of the phone it one of the best I have had, and I fell in love with it as soon as I picked it.
When I first started to use it though, I found myself over whelmed with the functionality and knew then I would have to change my mind set in more ways than 1.
I got straight onto xda to download all the neat extras that the people of this forum and others have contributed. I added the Manila cab file, TF3D panel installer, facebook panel and the SPB mobile shell.
At first I had to get my head round the panels idea. Once I did, what a really good feature. But I then noticed funny things going on. Contacts that I added were not being shown, I had to added them manually again, using the list of contacts within WinMo. I really thought that the contacts in Manila and SPB would of mirrored what was in the WinMo contact registry.
Being a noob with WinMo I started to panic trying to do the simple tasked that I took for granted with all my other previous phones.
Trying to send a txt was making me feel as if I have made a bad mistake. The whole process is so long winded. Too many menus and options to go through to finally type a text message in.
I then started to notice the reception. What reception! I thought something might have gone wrong, but after a couple of seconds waving it in the air, I finally got reception – 2 bars. 2 BARS! What the heck, my N95 gave me full reception. What’s going on here I thought. I also found it very temperamental, fluctuating greatly for no reason at all.
When I decided to retire to bed (at 1:30am!) I came across my final niggle. Setting the alarm! What a nightmare. Once again I had to go through the maze of options to be presented with a menu to setup an alarm. This was fiddly to say the least. The interface is so small I had to use the stylus to create an alarm which in my eye is even more an inconvenience.
I do like the phone, and I am hoping it is just me having to change my mindset. Doing the everyday tasks is a real pain in the bum, but then I am sure there will be easier ways of doing the things I want, as I have noticed that there is more than 1 way of doing things.
My only concern is the reception, and I will be keeping a close eye on this, and I feel this might be the reason I will have to send it back – No point in having an all singing all dancing phone with no reception!
Day 2
Dear Diary
Well, after some persistence the phones way of working is really starting to grow on me. I have spent more time adding contacts in to WinMo, which i can say is a pain, but once the information is there the phone really starts to shine.
I worked out that reason why TF3D and SPB don't sync with WinMo's contact is that what they actually offer is technically speed dials (Should of realised that when it says favorites - Doh!). All i do it select my most used contacts from WinMo, and with the addons (especially TF3D) it shows the contact in its full glory. And if i need a number not in there i just go straight to WinMo contact with a single click!
I updated the dialer to the Touch HD one, and WOW, so much better than the standard one. All i need now is more people to ring me so i can get to use all the features on offer
I also added the Touch HD keyboard, not a must because of the hard keyboard, but still better than the WinMo keyboard.
I am still getting used to the setup, but judging by how i am progressing so far with the phone, i feel it will only be a matter of time before i get totally used to it.
The reception is still worrying me tho. So i decided to do some tests. I drove home last night from work (16 miles) constantly checking the signal, and what i noticed surprised me a bit. I had signal all the way home, where with my N95 there were a few placed that i didn't.
This meant 2 things to me, either the phone didn't update the signal icon as much as the X1 over the N95, or the signal bars that show the strength were deceptive.
Ummmm food for thought. I just need to go to a place i know i defiantly do not get signal and do some tests there.
So, over all, it starting to be a good experience and i am starting to get to the nitty gritty of the device. Some one on here did say something that has stuck in my mind. "Phones are trying to be like PDA's and PDA's are trying to be phones". Having this angle getting an X1, going from the N95, has made me realise that i should stop trying to use it like a normal phone.
Tomorrow, i am going to try and sync it with outlook and others - I'm hoping that's when the confusion stops, and the fun begins!
Day 3/4
Well over the weekend I didn't have time to sync it to outlook (yet!), but I have managed to work out text messaging. It’s so easy to do now. Where i was going wrong was I was not used to the style. It's pretty much like MSN chat client where it always displays the history of message sent. What I was doing was replying manually and had to add the recipient etc. All I had to do was reply straight on the screen showing the message. Told you I was a total noob to all this!
I am noticing my attitude to the phone. Every time i am holding it I am being so careful. Careful not to scratch it, careful not to drop it, careful not to slide the keyboard out to hard, careful not press to hard on the screen - you get the idea. Every time I put it in my pocket making sure I don't have anything else in my pocket. So I am going to have to buy some sort of protection, lucky there's a nice section on xda to guide me on what’s best
hello sir.chunk
Oddly enough, unless I am mistaken, you wouldn't be the first person to say how much trouble they were having with this phone on the Vodaphone UK network
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I remember when i went from a BB 7280 to a Palm Treo 600 (and before that the Pregnant-Retard Nokia 3600 (3650))...i initially hated it at first, but then the PalmOS grew on me. Afterwards I went to the Treo 650 when it was launched, and then in October 2005 I went ahead and got a HTC Wizard. I returned that sucker right away (I admit i didnt give it a fair chance), but finally in May 2006 I went and got a HTC Prophet. Once again I hated it, however I refused to go back to my Treo 650 (mainly cause of the stability issue). I gave it a fair chance, and when I found programs upon programs for Windows Mobile (i already knew they existed but more so now), I was hooked.
The trick with Windows Mobile devices, coming from another area (for example S60) is to be patient.
Many people who give up quickly really lack the patience to learn the device. They expect to pick it up, and go go go...convergent devices, although convergent, are not regular cell phones, and while Series 60 is a smartphone platform, it sill has a strong "phone" feeling to it.
Patience develops into skill, and then skill develops into power. I don't think you will have problems with functionality, but I agree, if reception is lacking or non-existant, whats the point...after all it is a cell phone first!
Anyways that was my random spiel...don' t know how it will help, but i thought I would add it anyways
Cheers!
Its a nightmare, i consitantly looking at the reception and it's never the same.
I have never had a problem like this before.
As we speak i am at work, in a town with 3G access, that i know my previous phones have had full bars, but i have no reception, but i know 5mins ago i have 2 bars
Its very annoying as the more i use this phone the better it is getting!
But what use it a phone with out reception
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Its a nightmare, i consitantly looking at the reception and it's never the same.
I have never had a problem like this before.
As we speak i am at work, in a town with 3G access, that i know my previous phones have had full bars, but i have no reception, but i know 5mins ago i have 2 bars
Its very annoying as the more i use this phone the better it is getting!
But what use it a phone with out reception
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One thing though, Nokia products...my god are fantastic with reception and reception strength. If I am not mistaken the N95 set the bar for network strength.
I agree, what good is a device (a phone sorry) if it can't get any reception....I really hope things improve.
I can confirm that (HTC) Windows Mobile products in general are cack when it comes to reception, and the X1, being made from the same stock, isn't any different.
I work in what amounts to a bunker and the signal strength in my place is so weak I'm considering switching operators (do you hear, StarHub?) and the position of my desk is such that I have to place the phone at the very edge of it to get a proper signal.
I've had a lot of phones in 2 years, and every HTC since the first generation Touch occasionally misses calls or SMSes, even when the signal indicator shows one bar. Even the Blackstone (Touch HD) I tested a week ago (not on sale here yet) was no different whereas indeed, my previous E90 and N95 did a good job of hanging on to the signal.
If any HTC RF design engineers are reading this - please buck up, guys. It's the business crowd who depend on WM to keep their corporate life in sync for whom good reception really matters. You've worked so hard to make WM sexy, don't lose them.
"bars" on xperia are silly, in my room I have only 1 but it works far better than my old touch that has 4. So, if you have signal strenght problems may be a faulty device.
For interface problems you only need some training in the new world of windows mobile, by default is a pain but you can customize everything and make your mobile confortable to you in different ways. Nokia products are phones that can be used as pda, winmobile devices are pda that work as phone, who wants to buy a winmobile device should have this clear in his mind
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"bars" on xperia are silly, in my room I have only 1 but it works far better than my old touch that has 4. So, if you have signal strenght problems may be a faulty device.
For interface problems you only need some training in the new world of windows mobile, by default is a pain but you can customize everything and make your mobile confortable to you in different ways. Nokia products are phones that can be used as pda, winmobile devices are pda that work as phone, who wants to buy a winmobile device should have this clear in his mind
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I am really starting to love this phone and the interface i am slowly getting my head round - I am starting to see the light!
But its just the signal - GRRRRRRRRRRR Like i said in another post - It's like having the best pub in town, but with no beer!
I have 12 days left before i can send it back, dont want to, but i will have to and be sad and get the <cough> Blackberry <cough> bold
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I can confirm that (HTC) Windows Mobile products in general are cack when it comes to reception, and the X1, being made from the same stock, isn't any different.
I work in what amounts to a bunker and the signal strength in my place is so weak I'm considering switching operators (do you hear, StarHub?) and the position of my desk is such that I have to place the phone at the very edge of it to get a proper signal.
I've had a lot of phones in 2 years, and every HTC since the first generation Touch occasionally misses calls or SMSes, even when the signal indicator shows one bar. Even the Blackstone (Touch HD) I tested a week ago (not on sale here yet) was no different whereas indeed, my previous E90 and N95 did a good job of hanging on to the signal.
If any HTC RF design engineers are reading this - please buck up, guys. It's the business crowd who depend on WM to keep their corporate life in sync for whom good reception really matters. You've worked so hard to make WM sexy, don't lose them.
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Sidebar question...are you with M1 at present and looking to go to StarHub...everytime i visit Singapore I always activate a M1 Prepaid account...
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I am really starting to love this phone and the interface i am slowly getting my head round - I am starting to see the light!
But its just the signal - GRRRRRRRRRRR Like i said in another post - It's like having the best pub in town, but with no beer!
I have 12 days left before i can send it back, dont want to, but i will have to and be sad and get the <cough> Blackberry <cough> bold
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Yeah thats another thing I wanted to add...bars area subjective thing...but alas if you cant make a call, you cant make a call right...
Lucky you however. I can never go back to a non-touch screen phone...the Bold is a great device, but it has no touchscreen (and well the Storm is not a viable option for me).
If things dont work out, they dont work out unfortunately. At least you can't say you didnt give it a fair shot right
I thought i let people know that the signal shown on the phone might be desceptive. Read Day 2 on my first post.
nice that u are sharing ur experiences.
signal bars are not really a good gauge of actual call performances as u can't equate 1 bar of nokia to 2 bar of SE (for ex)
u really need to judge the call capabilities based on actual dropped calls or voice quality.
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Sidebar question...are you with M1 at present and looking to go to StarHub...everytime i visit Singapore I always activate a M1 Prepaid account...
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I'm with StarHub at present... I'd say stick with M1 or SingTel. Per-second billing works out cheaper, but you still get what you pay for...
Having come from a similar position (having all WinMo devices up until I switched to the dark side with an N95) I completely understand the pain. I bought a diamond and sent it straight back as I wasn't ready to part with my n95.
Having finally bought an X1, I have to say I'm falling in love with WinMo again, but the signal bars also worry me. However from personal experience, i've found that i've dropped far less calls than my n95, and I've even took calls in the basement car park at work where my n95 previously had none.
Also, as a Voda UK customer, one thing I didn't realise about the N95 was that when you have an HSDPA signal, your calls get bounced to VM.. This was on an advisory sheet in the box which I only found yesterday as I cleaned up my N95 for ebay.. (I did wonder why I got hardly any calls all day and people told me they couldn't reach me)
I'd say the bars on the screen definately aren't a good indication, stick with it.
Only other thing i'm trying to get comfort from at the minute is the GPS, my N95 always seemed to keep a strong signal, the X1 currently isn't great, but this may be because i'm using it in my nokia car holder... more to follow as I figure it out
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i have seen enough complaints about weak reception of xperia. Nothing but wrong! Xperia has good signal, and it holds on to it. It switches fast between 3g and HSDPA. I live in a confluence between 3G and GPRS cells. I never missed a call, and browsing is a delight. I had a P990 in the switching between #G and GPRS was so annoying, breaking up the connection.
After that i had an W890i - Vodafone branded. A top receiving signal from the testers,At least what they said. For me: a crap. Constant drop of signal, a lot of missed calls, browsing: a nightmare in GPRS. On 3G- when i got good signal - a delight. Then i "enlighed" when i read your posts about bad signal on Xperia: It is the branding which destroys the X1 reputation, and it is making it worse in reception.
Apparently, the branding is modifying the radio software, in favour of the branding company. It seems like Vodafone is doing a crappy job with their radio algorhytms.
To all Xperia users that complain about signal: try update the software and get rid of branding. Stay on "unbranded" way. It is way better.
About Nokia: those phones are big liars: they show more signal than the real one they are able to receive. I was in a lot of situations, where nokia shows 2-3 bars of signal and was unable to establish a call conection. And the update of bars is so slow...., so you don't really notice the signal variation when you pass through a bad signal area, although inside, the phone struggles to keep the connection with cells.
On Xperia i noticed that the signal strength bar update is nearly instant, comparde to all my older phones.
Until now, very happy with my Xperia.I thought it is harder to use as a phone, but it is not. It is my first WM phone.
I have switched from a HTC TyTN to X1 and I can confirm that my X1 has a weaker reception. Thats a fact!
When i travel by train the X1 drops out several times and it's no point picking it up unless the train stops.
But when I talk to other X1 owners, they say the reception is fine. So maby Sony Ericson has f***ed up some of the phones?
My X1 is not branded and I use Telia Sonera as service provider, which always worked fine (untill I got the X1).
But, I still like the phone, best WinMo ever! Just hope that there will be an upgrade available soon, maby that will do the trick..?
I'm very angry... The X1 is the Phone i ever searched... But the Receiption is weak!
I switch from HTC Tytn II to X1. I use E-Plus (GSM1800) in Germany. I also have a Twincard, so i can use 2 Phones similar.
On X1 is allways 1 Bar Signal strengh less than Tytn II.
@Sir.Chunk:
I have an unbranded X1i (european version)
I come from a Touch Diamond, TyTN, SE w890, etc etc etc...
I have good signal and never experience reception problems with my X1
My carrier/provider works over 850MHz only and I have ZERO reception problems I am very pleased with the reception
Maybe your problem is not the Xperia but Vodafone
I used Vodafone for several years and the signal was so variable depending on which area I was
Or maybe your carrier uses different bands/specs in differen areas (assymetrical tower expansion with different coverage areas) thus your phone is picking up the strenghter signal, jumping from 2G to 3G, or from 900 to 2100 as you move around... maybe
Your reception could improve if manually adjusting phone setting to just one band / GSM or UMTS instead of "auto selection" ???
But 3 bars on one phone doesn't equal 3 bars on another.
Run FieldTest and have a look at the db values
This thread seems to be an example of 'ignorance breeds ignorance' with the exception of a few. For the newbs *roll eyes here*, just hardSPL and download a different radio, for God's sake!!!
Most WinMo limitations always have a way out, which makes this platform unique.
Got my new HD from Uk Mobiles. Was really looking forward to it. What a let down. Is this really the phone that is raved about? What does it give me that my Tytn didn't apart from a bigger screen, welcome but not essential, and built in GPS?
It is no faster in real use, the volume is so low when using Tom Tom that it can't be heard (unlike my Tytn which needed turning down and could be used in my old diesel Transit with no problems) and the lag on the GPS is so bad that you need to stop on roundabouts for a cup of tea and a biscuit so that it can catch up and show you which exit to take (if the sound worked I would have known because Jane would have told me).
It only changes orientation automatically in one or two items of software and it came with a rubbish little carry bag instead of the very usable belt holder that came with the Tytn.
Most of the software that is available was available on the Tytn, it seems to be only the extra screen real estate that makes a real difference.
It has no external buttons, something I didn't realise I would miss.
It's just as crap at syncing over bluetooth as the Tytn, I know that's a software issue but it just adds to the frustration and disapointment.
edit: Orange have identified a fault using a flow chart questionaire and have given me a fault code, Uk Mobiles are replacing the phone. If I can't come up with fixes for my issues, or rather the phone's issue my own are to deeply ingrained, before the new one arrives it's up on ebay.
What am I missing? Can it be turned into a usable phone or should I sell it on ebay, seek out a second hand TytnII and accept that I can't handle change?
Volume on mine is too loud actually,
Get HDTweak to enable the louder volume
Orientation can be changed in almost every app.
I use Mobile Magic to manage my Orientation apps
I have also fully tweaked my phone and I love it also coming form a Tytn.
I also miss the hardware buttons and most of all the slide out keyboard but I can now type just as fast on the softboard.
Your right about the speed not being any quicker but I can cope as can the phone.
My advice is if you feel like you say then sell it. however as with all HTC phones they have to be tweaked to get the most out of them.
That's why this place is such a god-send, Without this forum I doubt that many of us would own a HTC device.
Graeme, I know you're pain. When I got mine last November I struggled for a week to get it to sync with my exchange server and I had bluetooth issues as well. The stock rom seemed unstable and slow. I don't have any of those issues anymore and haven't for a long time. May I suggest trying a cooked rom. There are some great chefs in this forum that have refined and tweaked things such that, in my opinion, allow the HD to run the way it was intended...smooth and fast. My HD is solid. My point is, before you put it up on ebay, give one of these roms a look.
I'm sorry to hear you feel this way. I know others feel the same and similar threads have been created. Would recommend sticking with phone and trying to become adjusted to it. Read up opn other threads andpossible use software to improve phone. Plenty available on thjese forums if you search.
No need for another thread is similar ones exist.
Wow! It is fast....
I know others have said this but I must reinforce that. I have been running WM6.5 on my (old!) HD for a while and with the new manilla 2.5 (sense) UI it is clearly struggling a bit. I am sure that Dutty and co will improve on that but the HD2 is clearly much more able to handle this impressive UI.
Just got mine from T-Mobile UK so here is my initial feedback to those still drooling over the videos and pictures:
Appearance - Looks great, actually feels slimer than the HD - I know it is but you will see what I mean when you handle one. The curved back (like i-phone) makes it even slimmer at the edges than the 11mm measurement would make you think. The screen looks great - you can see the dots across the screen in certain light reflections (directly across the screen) but I have not noticed any at all in use - just with bright light at shallow angle across the screen. The screen is noticeably bigger than the HD, same brightness. The screen edges are also (as reported) closer to the edge which adds to the impact of screen real-estate on offer.
Only adverse comment on design is the sharpness of the edges to the camera lens surround - the lens edging is sharp enough to damage furniture so beware. HTC need to fix this one. It is minor on the scale of things but completely at odds with the rest of the device which oozes quality.
Branding. T-mobile have put their mark on the phone - nothing externally but the boot-up and shut down splash have T-mobile branding. There is a T-mobile (Web & Walk) spalsh screen that pops up when you start Opera (otherwise completely standard) and there is a T-Mobile IM tool that has failed to work so far.
Unboxing - my box (standard green HTC box just like the videos) had no pouch (leather case). I called T-Mobile and they will be sending one but according to their list they have no mention of either the pouch (that is what HTC call it) or the (miserly) 2Gb miro SD card. There is no (micro) CD like you see in some videos and apart from standard HTC stuff there is a T-Mobile folded sheet about something - was far too busy plying with my new toy to read the paperwork...
Software - all the usual stuff is there. Notes is in 'Outlook' and there is no Co-pilot software to test for 15 days (unless its on the micro SD card (not checked), just ordered and downloaded Co-pilot 8 because it looks great on the HD2.
Camera - the pictures are great and it takes photos immediately - it really has no lag at all on almost anything. The flash is actually quite bright.
Performance - did I say it was fast? Vista sync with PC was faultless, everything just happens immediately - this is also enhanced because apps are never actually closed. There is, as reported, no HTC 'X' task manager to close apps so they are just minimised. So when you start them up again in fact all you are doing is lttbbing back to the app that may already be open. The result is near instant response and when you select, for instnce, Google Map, it is not only already loaded but has maps present too (albeit the last maps). Opera is much faster than on the HD. IE is still very poor by comparison (BTW - Opera is called 'Web & Walk' in the start menu on this T-Mobile phone). The "My location" function just works - on GPRS, HSDPA, WiFi ann PC sync. Weather looks really neat!
Initial Software Loading and trials - just had to hard reset! I installed Monocube Safemode and could not then start-up the handset in other than safe mode!!! Not impressed - wonder if that is something to do with the capacitive screen.
Resco Explorer 2008 - great
Coreplayer - installed OK but noticed that 700Mb DivX film had audio sync problem. This film and this coreplayer version on HD seemd to have no problem.
more to come when I have re-loaded the software and re-synced - don't use Monocube Safe Mode.
I cannot rule out something else having cause the need to hard-reset but it only occured after my first power-up after installing the sotfware. I will report this to Monocude (who make it) and report back if I get anything.
Love the phone - very happy.
This is my first HTC and to be frank, I LOVE IT. Maybe because it replaced my SEX1?
Playing music is a delight, the speaker is amazing. Had to reduce the sound to 50% as it was too loud.
Picture taking, could be better, but as I'm used to SEX1, I can say its impressive.
Fast? Fast? It's lightning fast. This device changed my opinion towards WM. I was appalled, but now I'm extremely happy.
Only one annoying thing, when there is no data connection I get this pop up every time I turn on the phone, which is quite annoying.
Overall, I give it a 8/10. It could very easily be improved with ROM updates.
But why did they make sms notification so small?
I got mine yesterday. (Donated by a certain someone, you know who you are . )
Gotta say it truly is one of THE most amazing pieces of mobile tech I've seen in all my years as a technician. For the 1st time I can finally say winmo users finally have something that knocks the socks of the (in my opinion) now defunct iPhone and indeed any others available to date The speed of everything on this is just amazing, never did I think winmo could achieve this. Of course HTC did an amazing job covering over winmo you really never see it for anything.
I've been reading reviews online and in papers (ya I know, paper, im so old-fashioned sometimes lol ) and all the reviews say the HD2 still couldn't beat the iPhone etc so I was holding off buying it. But don't listen to the reviewers they're just too critical, this phone really is the biz, go get it.
Also, as this phone has no Hardware Keyboard it can be a bit tricky at first. I used to refuse to own a phone without a physical one but replacing the default HTC softKB with Fingerboard and everything is perfect Some minor tweaks and videos, battery etc are all working above and beyond any media smartphone I've used (and Ive even used the iphone for 5 weeks).
Anyways enough of my wild ravings about the phone. If anyone wants to know anything about the HD2 gimme a shout, happy to answer anyone
Just got mine today from.... Vodafone!!! Can you believe for once they've got it out with everyone else????
It's every bit as good as I'd hoped (not surprising as I'm stepping up from an early Tytn).
As tony wheeler found though, you can be too clever.... I originally had an XDA 2 with TomTom Nav 5, forced my Tytn to load it years ago and long before TomTom supported it (in fact I'm not sure they ever did). Tried to force it on the HD2 and all I got was a corrupt screen and it froze. Only needed a soft reset to get it going again, but a bottled out at that point.
I noticed that my favourite game (Bubblet) is missing (I'm a simple soul) and so far I cn't get .tsk skins to load properly, but hey - it's only day one.... plenty of time yet.
Update: sorted Bubble using hints and tips at the top of this forum, thanks TB!! Also, got my skin working by pasting it into the windows folder. It then appears in the advanced Today edit screen.
Lag in messaging
Guys,
people have been complaining about the messaging application being laggy especially for contacts which have long message trail...is this correct? Are you experiencing it?
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Guys,
people have been complaining about the messaging application being laggy especially for contacts which have long message trail...is this correct? Are you experiencing it?
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Eh, not really.
Ive already got 113 messages (+25 on my SIM) on mine and not noticed any slow down or lagg. Also have loads of emails and no slow down on the email tab either.
Mine arrives tomorrow via DHL, looking forward to it.
Moving back to WM from iPhone, been playing with iPhone for the last six months. I have always been a WM believer, but I always look and test the competition in the real world. Then I have a opinion based on first hand experience.
While the iPhone has many nice features, when it comes to business it isn't as flexible or useful as a WM device.
That's not to say WM doesn't have issues, it does. That's for another thread though.
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I will be interested to hear your honest opinion of the HD2 compared with iphone.
The IP screen and nav functions are very fluid, but I think the HD2 is equal or better.
The HTC Shell makes a huge difference.
Without it I would have bought an iphone myself, and that is saying something!
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Mine arrives tomorrow via DHL, looking forward to it.
Moving back to WM from iPhone, been playing with iPhone for the last six months. I have always been a WM believer, but I always look and test the competition in the real world. Then I have a opinion based on first hand experience.
While the iPhone has many nice features, when it comes to business it isn't as flexible or useful as a WM device.
That's not to say WM doesn't have issues, it does. That's for another thread though.
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