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I was told by Leaf Wireless, the distributors of HTC in SA and Africa that the Hermes will support a 4gb micro card(Trans Flash).
I am not sure if this has been posted before, but there seemed to be speculation about this in the past on some threads.
Can anyone who has actually tried this confirm.
I am not sure if the new ROM's available have anything to do with this or not.
I believe 4GB requires FAT32 format. Try formatting a 1 or 2GB with FAT32 and see if it operates.
The Hermes can definately handle FAT 32 formated cards. I have flashed my Hermes using a 1GB micro SD card formated to FAT 32 several times with no problems. My 2GB card that I keep in the phone is also formated to FAT 32.
There have been differing reports concerning whether the 4GB SDHC format is supported or not. What we do know is this: SDHC in the registry doesn't stand for SD High Capacity.
speed compare - FAT16 vs. FAT32
I have 512MB Kingston, I tryed to use FAT16 and also FAT32 and benchmark speed on this card - FAT32 was faster, but only at some sizes of files. this results is for FAT32, tomorrow, when I am back to my PC I can format card to FAT16 and update this post with new images. otherwise, for me is 512MB enough. I have mp3 creative zen player, and I dont need use TyTN as video/mp3 player, only as storage for my documents, and installation files, so question if 4GB card work is for only matter of interest.
but there is one important thing. If you using card bigger than 512MB, it is better to use FAT32, coz if you dont you waste your space (it is known problem from PC disks). if someone have a bigger card, than 512MB try to format to FAT16, use pocket mechanic Slack Analysis function and you can see how much space is not used. on my card at this time is on FAT32 only 1,60MB (0,59%). on FAT16 is much more.
all results of benchmark is in archive. tomorrow I will update this post for results on FAT16, and also Slack analysis report.
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rest of benchmark, tested FAT16, slack for current cluster size (8kB) is 1.10 % which is 3,40MB instead of 1,60MB for FAT32. This results is only for me, you can have different results, I have used only 50% of capacity.
Did we determine that someone ACTUALLY has a 4gb MicroSD card and IS using it formatted in some way (FAT16/FAT32)?
If we EVER get some of the SDHC micro cards in at work then i will (cough cough) sacrifice one for the xda team, but i predict it will be a LONG time before they are even ordered (no demand for them as of yet)
mrvanx said:
If we EVER get some of the SDHC micro cards in at work then i will (cough cough) sacrifice one for the xda team, but i predict it will be a LONG time before they are even ordered (no demand for them as of yet)
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How can there not be a demand? My 2GB one is stuffed full!
Zilch.
The retailer i work for (just a dead end weekend job...im an engineer student in uni) doesnt sell to people as technically minded as us, most people use the sd micro cards for mediocre phones like the Moto-razr etc... Its a home retailer primarily, they have only just started selling the 2gb versions.
mrvanx said:
The retailer i work for (just a dead end weekend job...im an engineer student in uni) doesnt sell to people as technically minded as us, most people use the sd micro cards for mediocre phones like the Moto-razr etc... Its a home retailer primarily, they have only just started selling the 2gb versions.
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So? Even your average iPod user knows you can stuff twice as many MP3s onto a 4GB card as you can with a 2GB one. Surely?
Zilch.
Been a couple of months now.
Anyone tried and succeeded or failed with a 4Gb MicroSD in the Hermes?
SOOOOOOON!
Not here yet, but right around the corner. These are SD NOT SDHC. Should work fine. I will post results when mine arrives.
http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4159987
If someone can actually get the 4gb card working then i think we have some bright prospects to actually see higher capacities[8gb+] working since they all use the sdhc format. Although i still dont know why the htc peepz didnt put a rubber cover [or even a plastic one for that matter] on the sd slot. Currently there is just soo much potential for dust,grime and moisture to get in there!
I do understand the point that <b>mrvanx </b> is making. The majority of the mobile community today are more than happy with their 1gb cards...and when there is no significant demand...then there is no motif for a [reasonably priced] supply!
I emailed HTC Europe about this and I got a reply that the Hermes is able to work with SDHC Cards, but HTC Europe only advises card up to 2 gig. So....we still don't know anything.....
4Gb SDHC seems not to work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308679&page=2&highlight=4gb+micro+sd
Anyone can confirm this? Or maybe someone got it working?
In my area, 4Gb micro SDHC is not even available in shops.
Anyone knows, if there will be 4Gb micro SD (without HC) available?
Regards,
ARo
Confusion
Some people here seem to be talking about SDHC and other SD cards. From what I understand MicroSDHC wont work and no one has tried a 4Gb MicroSD card yet.
If you're in the UK it looks like 4Gb MicroSD cards are now available:
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/3359487/Sandisk-Micro-SD-4GB/Product.html
Anyone bought this and tried it yet?
If i could redirect you guys to THIS POST.........anyone confirm my thinking on this?
I have a 4gb microSDHC card (bought it from eBay) and it definitely does NOT work in my TyTN.
SkyyBoy said:
I have a 4gb microSDHC card (bought it from eBay) and it definitely does NOT work in my TyTN.
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Remember dude, there has been no such update or even attempt at one yet. You may be quite valuable for testing some patches if you keep hold of it.
ok guys... some info...
There are SDHC drivers for Windows Mobile 5 & 6, they are not included in your ROM's at the moment.
The Hermes USB hardware (Samsung 2440) 'DOES' theoretically support SDHC cards, but there is no way of telling if the firmware on the controller supports it.
If there is a hardware programmer out there that can help i can sacrifice a device...
I am buying some stuff from Amazon tonight, and was going to get a 2 gig card. Is there a list of compatible 2gb cards for the Wizard or will all of them work?
I see that the sandisk cards are more expensive, so was wondering if anybody had heard of Transcend.
I'd love it if somebody could answer pretrty quickly, as I need to make the order tonight.
Thanks!
hi my friend i had a 1 trascend memory card 2 gb and works find in my wizard i could recomend if your memory is only for music you will need a 4gb memory
enjoy it
Thanks
There are different types of 2gb thoug, which to go for?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Transcend-T...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1180986993&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Transcend-M...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1180986993&sr=8-7
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Transcend-T...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1180986993&sr=8-6
They vary in price, but is there a real difference?
delude said:
Thanks
There are different types of 2gb thoug, which to go for?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Transcend-T...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1180986993&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Transcend-M...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1180986993&sr=8-7
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Transcend-T...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1180986993&sr=8-6
They vary in price, but is there a real difference?
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If I were to choose between the three, the first one would be the winner. The second two are the same one and only run at 45X. The first runs at a speed of 80X. So, if you want a faster, more responsive card, get the first. Sure it costs a bit more, but it's worth it, in my opinion.
yeah the speed no all the lectors read a 150x mini sd or 200x mini sd
well i recomend you the:2 link is like mine
enjoy it
Thanks for the replies, I decided to just spend more and go with a kingston 2gb.
Hi new to here....
what type of miniSD cards do people use and recommend? Are fast ones more noticable? Does it effect TomTom? Should one spend more on a better card rather than buying a cheapie?
Thanks
i am using a SanDisk 2GB mini-SD card (with TomTom) and would recommend you spend a little more and get a name brand that you know works such as the SanDisk or Kingston. Do a search here, there's already so many threads on types of mini-SD cards and people's experiences. Goog luck.
I have a Sandisk 2GB card and a TopRAM 4GB card. Have tried both with tomtom, video playback etc and never had a problem with either. The topRAM was cheap from ebay and 4GB is really great to have. I use WM6 ROMS in my trinity.
Just bought a 2GB Sandisk Ultra II card since it wasn't much more expensive than the standard card. It's the only MiniSC card I have, so can't make any comparisons, but it seems faster than the standard speed SD card on my old XDAII. Anyone know how this card rates? Performance, reliability, etc.
Later,
Abaddon100.
I am still deliberating wether to get the HD2. One thing that worries me is the quite limited storage capacity with the microSD card. As far as I understand the microSD (SDHC) standard only supports up to 32GB capacities. I know 32GB is quite large, but I anticipate my needs will grow.
My question is - will HD2 be able to use the 64Gb, 128GB .... cards that come out probably one year from now.
Thanks for your help
Seeing 32GB cards aren't available yet, and we've been waiting for them for like 2 years, I'm pretty sure you'll have changed your HD2 before 64GB cards are here
But to the question, no idea. That would depend on whether drivers that support the new format extension are made available.
I believe 64GB is here in couple of months. Blackberry rumours are that new devices will come with support for 64GB microsd cards.
http://forums.crackberry.com/f2/32-64gb-micro-sd-cards-275113/
My friend ordered 2 usb sticks 64GB - 22USD each but I haven't seen them yet (I hope he gets them). That tells me that prices are still in freefall.
Sandisk is actually developing 128GB micorsd card: http://www.physorg.com/news143893844.html
I guess the problem is not with the sheer size of the microsd (ok that is important if you have a huge music library or movies or something else that needs to be on your phone all the time), but how fast it is while copying. If you put it in your phone and connect usb, how fast is it in disk mode? 20 MB/s?
HD2 has a microSDHD slot, which supports a maximum capacity of 32GB - or will it be able to use microSDXC cards? Is's probably more than a "firmware" upgrade from SDHC to SDXC.
I agree read and write speed are very important to - has anyone done any tests on the speed of the microSD slot?
20MB/s seems optimistic...
It's microSDHC... which means a maximum of 32GB.
microSDXC cards with more than 32GB will NOT work.
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Is's probably more than a "firmware" upgrade from SDHC to SDXC.
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Well, SD to SDHC was a firmware upgrade away for many common controllers. But I've just done a little search and it seems that it might not be the case for SDHC to SDXC indeed.
luxusxda said:
I agree read and write speed are very important to - has anyone done any tests on the speed of the microSD slot?
20MB/s seems optimistic...
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It obviously depends a lot on the card used, some will take 3MB/s while some will take 20MB/s...
It does seem that it's a bit slower than a usual card reader, around 5MB/s with my class 6 8GB Sandisk card vs ~12 in a good card reader.
does HD2 support micro SDHC 64GB card?
Hi,
Here is a real eBay link to buy 64GB Micro SDHC card.
So we can put availability-problem aside.
Is it written in Micro SDHC specification that the limit is 32GB?
I dont see any 32GB size limit for Micro SDHC.
I would like to buy 64GB Micro SdHC
Can someone please tell me whether HD2 supports 64GB Micro SDHC?
Thanks in advance
Edit: confirmed that 64GB card works and its in use over a couple of years.
kilrah said:
Seeing 32GB cards aren't available yet, and we've been waiting for them for like 2 years, I'm pretty sure you'll have changed your HD2 before 64GB cards are here
But to the question, no idea. That would depend on whether drivers that support the new format extension are made available.
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Well if you do buy and try it, please tell us if it works
Just check in Google and don´t let Yourself be misled by wishful thinking: 32 GB mSD cards were announced by Sandisk in Feb 2009 and still we have to wait for shipping them by expansys or easydevices.co.uk until end of May 2010, maybe June..........
Do You really think an ebay-offer of 64GB is serious ? It is only that You BELIEVE in this offer since You badly want it ! It is like believing in a religion because You HOPE that someone else might tackle with Your problems and hopes. But there is NO such other, because it does not EXIST, as well as 64 GB mSD do not exist and will not exist for the next years.
Nobody will develop them, ´cause there will be no market for them ! When 64 GB + mSD cards can be built at a reasonable prize nobody would buy them ´cause everyone of the possible customers (esp. the people HERE = early adopters = tech freaks) will already have changed their devices 2-3 times to devices with mSDXC-standards (such as HTC HD3, HD4, HD5 .......... )
Don´t BELIEVE and HOPE, just KNOW and be REALISTIC: there will be no 64GB mSD-card .............
troed said:
Just check in Google and don´t let Yourself be misled by wishful thinking: 32 GB mSD cards were announced by Sandisk in Feb 2009 and still we have to wait for shipping them by expansys or easydevices.co.uk until end of May 2010, maybe June..........
Do You really think an ebay-offer of 64GB is serious ? It is only that You BELIEVE in this offer since You badly want it ! It is like believing in a religion because You HOPE that someone else might tackle with Your problems and hopes. But there is NO such other, because it does not EXIST, as well as 64 GB mSD do not exist and will not exist for the next years.
Nobody will develop them, ´cause there will be no market for them ! When 64 GB + mSD cards can be built at a reasonable prize nobody would buy them ´cause everyone of the possible customers (esp. the people HERE = early adopters = tech freaks) will already have changed their devices 2-3 times to devices with mSDXC-standards (such as HTC HD3, HD4, HD5 .......... )
Don´t BELIEVE and HOPE, just KNOW and be REALISTIC: there will be no 64GB mSD-card .............
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I just wanted to look for a bigger card than the stock 16GB, even a 32GB would do, nothing particular about 64GB, nor is looking for higher capacity card any pressing need.
I am least bothered to think so much about manufacturing trouble before looking for a higher capacity card, I dont give a damn about manufacturing trouble if any.
I just searched higher capacity card than 16GB and checked at one which happened to be 64GB.
There is no need to involve big things like hope or belief in something so unimportant or cheap as a SD card.
hello
Is there someone who really tested 64 or 128 GB SDXC, on HD2?
If i remenber well, 64gb is not possible
sent from my HD2 using XDA App
Yes, 64GB microSD works on HD2...
I've learnt to never say never...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1414126
SanDisk Mobile Ultra MicroSDXC 64GB
I installed the Tytung ICS build on a SanDisk Mobile Ultra MicroSDXC 64GB.
Works fine! Just needs to be farmatted in Fat32
And I don't mean for installing a ROM onto (I use NAND builds)--just for storage purposes.
Been looking at upgrading my slow 8GB storage card to a faster and larger one (16 or 32GB), and I can't seem to find what is going to be compatible and what will not. For example, I was going to get a 16GB PNY Class 10 card, but one of the first user review comments was that someone got one for their rooted HTC HD2, and the card would not allow the phone to boot (however, it worked fine with their camera).
I'm not sure if I should go with SanDisk cards or Samsung cards, or PNY, Class 6 maximum, Class 10 maximum, or what have you. Some are on better deals than others, but clearly price is secondary to compatibility.
Is there some sort of a master list of compatible cards that I've missed in my search? Many thanks!!!
Photoelectric said:
And I don't mean for installing a ROM onto (I use NAND builds)--just for storage purposes.
Been looking at upgrading my slow 8GB storage card to a faster and larger one (16 or 32GB), and I can't seem to find what is going to be compatible and what will not. For example, I was going to get a 16GB PNY Class 10 card, but one of the first user review comments was that someone got one for their rooted HTC HD2, and the card would not allow the phone to boot (however, it worked fine with their camera).
I'm not sure if I should go with SanDisk cards or Samsung cards, or PNY, Class 6 maximum, Class 10 maximum, or what have you. Some are on better deals than others, but clearly price is secondary to compatibility.
Is there some sort of a master list of compatible cards that I've missed in my search? Many thanks!!!
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in my opinion it would be samsung then sandisk
i currently have a 32gig class 6 sandisk card and it is really good
Kameirus said:
in my opinion it would be samsung then sandisk
i currently have a 32gig class 6 sandisk card and it is really good
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Thank you. I do respect Samsung a lot, based on personal experience with desktop RAM, but my brief research into Sandisk offerings have returned questionable results: some people say that advertised speeds don't match real transfer speeds.
What about the PNY cards though--I'm still unclear what makes a card compatible or not. Is it down to individual firmware or is there just some basic limits for HTC HD2 Leo (rooted) -- like no UHS cards. In theory, those PNY Class 10 cards seem like they should be okay, but that one review makes me wonder if the user did something incorrectly, or whether there was a true incompatibility.
Been looking at Samsung cards, and they come in a few varieties: regular, "plus", and "pro". The first two are older, I guess, since they are stamped with "class 6" but differ in their speeds.
The "regular" version for up to 24MB/s:
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/memory-storage/MB-MSAGB/AM
The "plus" version with "UHS-I Interface" for up to 48MB/s:
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/memory-storage/MB-MPAGB/AM
And then there's one labeled "class 10" that is the "pro" version, supporting up to 70MB/s:
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/memory-storage/MB-MGAGB/AM
I imagine the regular version is just fine, but would the faster two cards simply not work with HD2? PNY Class 10 cards are better priced, but again, I have no idea if they will work. Any pointers into how I can research micro SDHC card compatibility would be greatly appreciated! The manual and phone description simply state that it is SD 2.0 compatible up to 32GB, which doesn't help with my search, since some of those cards appear to not work well (hearsay).