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Hi,
I have ROM version 1.5.4.2 WWE (11/8/05)
Is it worth upgrading this? Is there any risk involved? What aditional functionality will it give me?
ok, I found the updated ROM and instructions in a different thread (this site is the best!) I read what extra functionality it gives, but what I meant was, will it actaully make my wizard any better or quicker or anything? I don't use the o2 UI so that whole part of the update wont be used anyway.
I also read somewhere that the updated ROM puts an annoying battery icon somewhere on the today screen, so based on this and the fact that I wont be using the o2 UI is it worth updating the ROM?
wellmoon said:
ok, I found the updated ROM and instructions in a different thread (this site is the best!) I read what extra functionality it gives, but what I meant was, will it actaully make my wizard any better or quicker or anything? I don't use the o2 UI so that whole part of the update wont be used anyway.
I also read somewhere that the updated ROM puts an annoying battery icon somewhere on the today screen, so based on this and the fact that I wont be using the o2 UI is it worth updating the ROM?
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What Rom do you refferer to? There are a dozen of newer Roms than yours...
Molski
wellmoon said:
ok, I found the updated ROM and instructions in a different thread (this site is the best!) I read what extra functionality it gives, but what I meant was, will it actaully make my wizard any better or quicker or anything?
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It'll be at least quicker to boot in. Check out my benchmark results between your very ROM version and those of the latest ROM's at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1233&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
That is, DO upgrade.
molski said:
What Rom do you refferer to? There are a dozen of newer Roms than yours...
Molski
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I meant the latest one, your one I guess...
Thanks for the info guys, I will update my ROM soon as I can (just tried the ftp site but cant access, will try again later)
Sorry, one more thing, Molski your latest ROM says it's a custom T mobile ROM, my phone came from O2, can I still use it? Or should I stick with the latest O2 ROM?
wellmoon said:
Sorry, one more thing, Molski your latest ROM says it's a custom T mobile ROM, my phone came from O2, can I still use it? Or should I stick with the latest O2 ROM?
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You can use any ROM on your Wizard.
wellmoon said:
Sorry, one more thing, Molski your latest ROM says it's a custom T mobile ROM, my phone came from O2, can I still use it? Or should I stick with the latest O2 ROM?
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If you CID unlock your device (with LokiWiz 0.2b) you can use any Rom.
Regards,
Molski
cool. Thanks guys, I used Lokiwiz (which I bought from ebay before I discovered this great site) to unlock my phone as soon as I got it so that should be fine...Still unable to get into the FTP site though, will keep trying
Cheers again
Hey I just got the touch for Verizon and have a few rookie questions.
I read a lot about changing the ROM but am a bit confused. What is flashing? Is this necessary? I see that it is really dangerous and irreversible for Verizon. I see general instructions, but are there Verizon specific ones around anywhere?
Also I downloaded this Valhalla gps cab to get GPS working. After I resetted, I downloaded google maps and tried the gps with no luck. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
Also I'd like to get that Manilla 2d on my phone. What's the best route for this? Am I risking getting rid of the cube?
I know I am asking a lot of questions, if you can answer one I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks in advance,
Zack
zfly9 said:
Hey I just got the touch for Verizon and have a few rookie questions.
I read a lot about changing the ROM but am a bit confused. What is flashing? Is this necessary? I see that it is really dangerous and irreversible for Verizon. I see general instructions, but are there Verizon specific ones around anywhere?
Also I downloaded this Valhalla gps cab to get GPS working. After I resetted, I downloaded google maps and tried the gps with no luck. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
Also I'd like to get that Manilla 2d on my phone. What's the best route for this? Am I risking getting rid of the cube?
I know I am asking a lot of questions, if you can answer one I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks in advance,
Zack
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Great switch! I had to ditch my i760 too !
Flashing is the term used to basically say your upgading your ROM. It's not necassary, but once you do it, you'll be much happier with the overall performance.
Other vocab to know:
ROM: Read-Only Memory, all your system files, your OS.
Radio: This is for your phone, and GPS, you need a v3.XX for GPS functions.
RUU: ROM Update Utility, the application used on your PC to flash the new ROM.
Bootloader: When flashing, this will be the screen you need enter, you can enter it by pressing and holding the Power & Camera buttons, then soft reset. You only need to enter this when checking SPL versions, and for flashing.
Kitchen: The set of files used to cook a ROM.
Cooking: Another term for creating a ROM.
You need to read as much as you can before you decide to flash a new ROM. When you do, you'll see those terms thrown around quite a bit, so know you won't be as confused, I hope. Those are the ones I could think of off the top of my head.
For now, flashing the xv6900 is irreversible, so if you decide to do it, make sure you are fully aware of what you are doing, and be prepared in the event something goes wrong. But, if you can successfully update the ROM, you'll be happy with the end result. Trust me, it looks confusing, but when you're done you'll see it was really a piece of cake !
The reason your GPS does not work is because you have the stock Radio, it must be updated first, but as I said before, be sure to have a good knowledge on what you are doing.
If you want the Manilla 2D, just install the .cab file from its thread. It will not remove your cube, since they are two different "apps." But, my suggestion is to get rid of it, since it's quite useless, just search around, once you find the other great developments here, you'll want to ditch it ASAP.
For extras, see my Tips & Tricks thread, link in my sig.
What rom do you recommend? I am ready to flash it. I am looking for threaded text as well. I'd really like to use GPS as well. And I though there was a ROM with Manilla 2d, maybe I am confused. Anyways, please recommend a popular rom, and where I could find some instructions.
Thanks so much.
I e-mailed you, but I then figured I should make it public
zfly9 said:
What rom do you recommend? I am ready to flash it. I am looking for threaded text as well. I'd really like to use GPS as well. And I though there was a ROM with Manilla 2d, maybe I am confused. Anyways, please recommend a popular rom, and where I could find some instructions.
Thanks so much.
I e-mailed you, but I then figured I should make it public
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There really isn't a "popular" ROM in the sense each one is different and better suited for different people. 99% of the ROMs available will have the updated Radio as a mandatory step, so GPS will be included, and threaded SMS is a default for WM6.1, also a standard in most ROMs. I think there are a few Manilla 2D ROMs available, but all it really means is, it's included with the ROM.
When you flash the new ROM, you update all the system files, so after a flash, if you were to do a hard reset, you will not go back to the original VZW ROM, but the new one you flashed. So, with that in mind, do some browsing around to find what's included in the ROMs available.
All the ROMs you find will be different, they will have different apps, tweaks, and graphics. Just think what you would prefer, a fast ROM, lots of included apps, or one with more storage memory?
After your first flash, the Radio will be updated, and the device will remain unlocked. So unless you need a new Radio version, which I highly doubt, you can flash any ROM of your choice, without having to unlock the device or update the Radio. You'll probably go through a few to see which one you like the best.
Also, make sure you have read everything possible, thinking about this logically, you've got a 50% chance to do this wrong, nothing personal. Just be sure your confident you have read enough, and know you can fix it if there is a problem. As you know, it's irreversible, before you flash, ask yourself if you have a spare $300-$400 just in case.
Happy Flashing !
just discovered this, which is what ive been looking for which should help you.. its in the wiki tab but heres the link
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Flashing Guide
thanks champ
thanks champjt your post was informative
Wow 50 percent chance? I don't like those chances. Is there a clear step by step instructions link somewhere, so I can increase my chances?
Also it says to delete your partnership with activesync. I'd like to keep all my contacts and datebook. Is this necessary?
Also, is it possible to just update the radio? Just to get GPS? And if so, how risky is this?
imdarkside said:
thanks champjt your post was informative
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No prob !
zfly9 said:
Wow 50 percent chance? I don't like those chances. Is there a clear step by step instructions link somewhere, so I can increase my chances?
Also it says to delete your partnership with activesync. I'd like to keep all my contacts and datebook. Is this necessary?
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Not always 50%, but there are really two options, it works or it doesn't, which is why I say it like that. I've got a link to a really good guide in my Tips thread.
zfly9 said:
Also, is it possible to just update the radio? Just to get GPS? And if so, how risky is this?
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Updating the Radio and flashing are pretty much the same, considering you need to flash the new Radio for a new ROM, for the GPS enabled ones at least, which is almost all of them. Once you have unlocked your device and updated the Radio, flashing the ROM will be done almost in the snap of your fingers, the ROM is the easiest and most painless part. The first two, the Radio and unlocking, are the ones you need to pay the most attention to, and you should only really need to do those steps once for any ROM flashes ever on this device.
I recomment OMJ's bell ROM's, you can find them on ppc geeks. What's nice if you decide to install the manilla 2d today plugin it seems to work near perfect with his roms.
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Great switch! I had to ditch my i760 too !
Flashing is the term used to basically say your upgading your ROM. It's not necassary, but once you do it, you'll be much happier with the overall performance.
Other vocab to know:
ROM: Read-Only Memory, all your system files, your OS.
Radio: This is for your phone, and GPS, you need a v3.XX for GPS functions.
RUU: ROM Update Utility, the application used on your PC to flash the new ROM.
Bootloader: When flashing, this will be the screen you need enter, you can enter it by pressing and holding the Power & Camera buttons, then soft reset. You only need to enter this when checking SPL versions, and for flashing.
Kitchen: The set of files used to cook a ROM.
Cooking: Another term for creating a ROM.
You need to read as much as you can before you decide to flash a new ROM. When you do, you'll see those terms thrown around quite a bit, so know you won't be as confused, I hope. Those are the ones I could think of off the top of my head.
For now, flashing the xv6900 is irreversible, so if you decide to do it, make sure you are fully aware of what you are doing, and be prepared in the event something goes wrong. But, if you can successfully update the ROM, you'll be happy with the end result. Trust me, it looks confusing, but when you're done you'll see it was really a piece of cake !
The reason your GPS does not work is because you have the stock Radio, it must be updated first, but as I said before, be sure to have a good knowledge on what you are doing.
If you want the Manilla 2D, just install the .cab file from its thread. It will not remove your cube, since they are two different "apps." But, my suggestion is to get rid of it, since it's quite useless, just search around, once you find the other great developments here, you'll want to ditch it ASAP.
For extras, see my Tips & Tricks thread, link in my sig.
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Wow TheChampJT! I wish i have seen this inmy earlier days, when i started tweaking my vogue! Thanks, this is a great contribution... Maybe worth a sticky?
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Wow TheChampJT! I wish i have seen this inmy earlier days, when i started tweaking my vogue! Thanks, this is a great contribution... Maybe worth a sticky?
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LOL! Happy to help! Its not finished yet but i have a tips and tricks thread, link in my sig.
First i want to say thanks to all the developers that got involved to make this possible. Their hard work and sleepless nights are greatly appreciated.
I tried so many combinations of ROM's and Radio's that i gave up and nearly lost hope until a friend of mine at work found the perfect combination of Windows Mobile and Android to load on the US Tmobile HD2. Maybe i should buy him lunch tomorrow .
I think many are experiencing the issues i had, soooo.... I wanted to share this information and show you all little lost sheep out there how to get to the light at the end of the tunnel.
If you want to start from scratch, meaning from the factory ROM on the phone, then do what i did and follow the instructions below in the same order i performed them. If you are savvy enough to follow along without starting from a stock ROM, then more power to you. These steps are for the dummies like me who are out there and cant follow instructions.
Again this is for the US-TMobile HD2's. I dont know that this will work for the EU HD2's. Try at your own risk.
Step 1
Install the TMO Stock ROM. Click Here
Step 2
Root your TMO Stock ROM by installing 2.08.HardSPL. Click Here
Step 3
Install Energy's "Stardard-Energy" ROM located on the US TMO forum but for your convenience.... Click Here
Step 4
Install Radio version 2.12.50.02.2. Click Here
Step 5
Copy shubCRAFT's "Android" folder to the root of your SD Card. Click Here
- (I edited the startup file to prevent the "cant access tty; job control turned off " error message, therefore this install should be plug and play.
- When the copy is complete, place the SD CARD back in your phone if not already, and run clrcad & haret from the Storage card.
- You can also use the auto boot loader .cab file on your WM rom to autoload Android. Click Here
Updated: 8/7/10
For those of you who are having issues and don't know how to modify the startup.txt file. Here is a copy of the startup.txt file without the "loop_partition=mmcblk0" command line. Click Here
Just copy the file to the Android folder and overwrite the existing one and you should be all set.
Step 6
Here is a new 1GB userdata.img download link. Click Here
The old one was giving issues with texting. If you guys want a bigger userdata file let me know. This will also fix any download issues from the Market and prevent low disk space errors when attempting to install an application from the SD card.
Update: 8/7/10
Here is a 4GB userdata.img for the ones that wanted a bigger file. Click Here
I'll have to try this. Keep having the static/echo problem no matter what radio I use. Currently I'm running ChuckyROMS and dan1j3l's Froyo build. Got one more radio to try and if that doesn't work, oh well, I'll try this combo.
As far as I remember I am using ChuckyDroid and Radio 12_50.2 and matt latest version and no echo/sod since yesterday and got about 20 hours out of battery life. Must mention I use the phone "alot" so my battery drains accordingly
sudeep62589 said:
As far as I remember I am using ChuckyDroid and Radio 12_50.2 and matt latest version and no echo/sod since yesterday and got about 20 hours out of battery life. Must mention I use the phone "alot" so my battery drains accordingly
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Wow are you serious 20 hours ????
I'm using:
LEO_Cloudy_1.6 and Radio 2.12.50.02_2
mattc Leo + Froyo w/Sense RC1.4
together with Cloudy AndroidLoader too
Working perfectly, no robotic voice
the new zimage is what kills the echo, nothing magical about it.
Frustrating!
Even with the new zimage, clean SD, I still get robo-voice. I refuse to clean out my stock TMOUS ROM / radio though...there has to be a fix that doesn't require me to do HSPL....(i own a mac...is there an easy way to do HSPL on a mac?)
hobonic said:
Even with the new zimage, clean SD, I still get robo-voice. I refuse to clean out my stock TMOUS ROM / radio though...there has to be a fix that doesn't require me to do HSPL....(i own a mac...is there an easy way to do HSPL on a mac?)
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U don'nt have to HSPL again to install the Radio, and neither will u lose any data, so just go ahead if an new radio will help resolving the robo-voise
Does flashing the stock tmo rom first really make a difference? I've flashed like crazy to get the best combo but haven't had the stock rom since I first flashed.
No matter what I do I'm still getting massive background noise (mic gain?) downloading energy + shubcraft now, let's see if this does it!
I can't say its perfect... it seems clear... just very low volume.. I do love how well this is all coming along!! what 2 weeks and it almost totally usable ?!?!
us tmo hd2
Radio version 2.12.50.02.2
Energy's "Stardard-Energy" ROM
shubCRAFT's Android build
Cobra2 said:
U don'nt have to HSPL again to install the Radio, and neither will u lose any data, so just go ahead if an new radio will help resolving the robo-voise
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the robot will keep talkin to u until u dont chage ur tomous HD2 Stock (****) ROM ... just kiddin man .. the robocop depends upon ROM only not radio... before i also tried different radios with STOCK tmobile rom but robotic voice came with all.. but NOW changing to miri later to chuky both rom shown np problem at all except for echo which is not a problem to me as it a problem of the opposite site and somtimes i use the stock headset which get the echo out also... by da way android got far greater audio quality when playin music dont know why... but during calls vice versa
nawcho said:
the new zimage is what kills the echo, nothing magical about it.
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The man speaks the truth. Try 3rd August version guys.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App.
tgtoys said:
Does flashing the stock tmo rom first really make a difference? I've flashed like crazy to get the best combo but haven't had the stock rom since I first flashed.
No matter what I do I'm still getting massive background noise (mic gain?) downloading energy + shubcraft now, let's see if this does it!
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Its not the rom but the audio driver that the rom uses. Look for robotic sound problem thread in this section for the files.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App.
You know guys, I really gotta say this. I think its really mestup that when you try to download the "Standard-Energy Rom" they give you the option to either pay them for a fast download or suffer through their agravating super slow download that they intentionally made that way for who ever doesnt wanna pay up.
I noticed the "Affiliate Program" they have which for those of you who dont know, it just means that every time someone goes and pays for the "super fast download", there is someone behind the scene getting paid for making you pay. That someone is usually the one who provides the link to that website.
Why am I exposing this? because who ever is doing this should at least have the curtesy to let us know it is NOT free to download and HE will make money when you choose to pay, not just thinking he's fooling people to a comission- which he is.
The last time I tried downloading for free, it took 2 1/2 hours and at the end I got a little "Error" message saying there was a problem downloading and the download could not be completed. - .. as expected for not paying up right?
How do I know this, because I AM an "Affiliate Marketer". I know how this stuff works, but I dont work this way.
has anyone realized this is a emulator .....lmao
JesHD2 said:
You know guys, I really gotta say this. I think its really mestup that when you try to download the "Standard-Energy Rom" they give you the option to either pay them for a fast download or suffer through their agravating super slow download that they intentionally made that way for who ever doesnt wanna pay up.
I noticed the "Affiliate Program" they have which for those of you who dont know, it just means that every time someone goes and pays for the "super fast download", there is someone behind the scene getting paid for making you pay. That someone is usually the one who provides the link to that website.
Why am I exposing this? because who ever is doing this should at least have the curtesy to let us know it is NOT free to download and HE will make money when you choose to pay, not just thinking he's fooling people to a comission- which he is.
The last time I tried downloading for free, it took 2 1/2 hours and at the end I got a little "Error" message saying there was a problem downloading and the download could not be completed. - .. as expected for not paying up right?
How do I know this, because I AM an "Affiliate Marketer". I know how this stuff works, but I dont work this way.
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so who is going to pay for the hosting that has nothing to do with the developer its the hosting site ur getting there work for free start download and go get some coffee your first post could of been more useful
Jackuuuuu said:
The man speaks the truth. Try 3rd August version guys.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App.
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Yeah you got it, thats the only "magical" thing. With the last Radio all Echos are gone and the Bad Backround noises too.
No one must try diff ROM and Radios anymore.
I use the Original 1.66 Stock ROM and Darkstones Desire v5 (my absolute favorit) and with the latest zimage the last Soundproblems are solved.
I only wait for GPS works in the v5, coz than it is the perfect build.
Thank you for this post! Very helpful
hobonic said:
Even with the new zimage, clean SD, I still get robo-voice. I refuse to clean out my stock TMOUS ROM / radio though...there has to be a fix that doesn't require me to do HSPL....(i own a mac...is there an easy way to do HSPL on a mac?)
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did u check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=737936
applies to stock roms also, flash a 2.10 rom
ROMeOS has been updated to v4.17 expressly for Android Compatibility
Hi
First off all I want to say: I can probably find everything here in the forum but I'll spend hours and hours reading and most off the time I'll read useless info that I don't need so if you have the knowledge and it just takes 5 minutes to share it please help me out I'll be thankful.
I myself have a HTC legend and have read LOTS off posts before finally rooting and flashing custom roms. Now my dad has asked me if I could help him to get android on his HD2.
He needs to be able to sync his agenda with outlook (for work (Calendar and contacts) I read something about HTC sync should be working on newer kernels is it included in some builds then?), and have a stable build (its not a ROM if I'm correct?) one that he could use for daily use. Don't need anything too special (not even root but its not a problem if it does have root access)
So I've started reading around in the development section and from what I read I don't need to root or flash anything, just extract a zip to the SD and name it Android. Is that correct? (then why do you have special android roms?)
So is there someone who can link me to a good stable (no OC kernels and stuff please) Android Build and tell me if there are known bugs with HD2 builds that don't get mentioned in those threats because they are known as general knowledge.
Thanks in advance
If I could ever help you back with HTC legend problem or something I'll gladly do it for you.
grts
Jonas (sorry for the pour English it's not my main language)
I'm reading topics and If I find answers I'll update this but please if you have the knowledge to help me in a few minutes PLEASE do so.
Never mind found this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782930
and solved most of my questions looks like its not as fully operating as I thought :s.
So It's not just as easy as unzipping and renaming that would have been too easy.
It isn't very complicated to run android on the HD2. I don't know what feature you suspect isn't working that scared you from attempting. Every feature I could want is working. You also don't need to sacrifice windows mobile if you try android. Give it a shot and post again if you have trouble.
Problem is that I need to root and flash other wm Rom if I want everything to work as it should. Or isn't that really necessary? I'll just try a build and see what it does. Thx for th reply
Sent from my Legend using XDA App
JonasDroid said:
Problem is that I need to root and flash other wm Rom if I want everything to work as it should. Or isn't that really necessary? I'll just try a build and see what it does. Thx for th reply
Sent from my Legend using XDA App
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if you have to hspl your hd2 depends on your stock radio rom version. it should be a newer one like 2.10 or 2.12 to avoid most issues with android. flashing another winmo rom is only necessary if you have robot voice and/or faster playback of music (just to mention 2 problems)... you don't have anything to loose if you try android from stock hd2. if it's not working fine, you may think of flashing a new radio and/or rom!
So if I unzip the file I can dowload here put it into android folder in the root of my SD, I'm good to go? What about that kernel do I need to flash it??
if he uses it for work then i'd suggest laying off android for now
he could still use the WM? It's just like a program no? So by just removing the folder it would be back to normal?
JonasDroid said:
he could still use the WM? It's just like a program no? So by just removing the folder it would be back to normal?
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You basically reboot the phone and it goes back to wmo. Its almost like running a live linux cd...
When you run HaRet Android takes over the phone. When you reboot it will come back to WinMo. Then you run HaRet again and you back in Android. And so on. WinMo 'lives' on the phone, Android on sd.
So the kernel they are talking about is a fake kernel? (not flashed to the actual ROM)
So if anything goes wrong at first boot with the android I can just pull out the battery without bricking the phone?
JonasDroid said:
So the kernel they are talking about is a fake kernel? (not flashed to the actual ROM)
So if anything goes wrong at first boot with the android I can just pull out the battery without bricking the phone?
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Its not a fake kernel...it is real but it resides on the sd card so your original wmo stuff will still be there in case you ever need to use wmo again.
new to xda and looking for the build for my hd2
Hello I am new to xda and i have a hd2 it is new and have had it about 5 wks am looking for a way to unlock it and also to put the android os on it. I had a friend of mine try this past wknd to do it and it kept flashing a error code and wouldn't allow us to proceed. Can someone please help direct me in the right direction much appreciated.
pierreg34 said:
Hello I am new to xda and i have a hd2 it is new and have had it about 5 wks am looking for a way to unlock it and also to put the android os on it. I had a friend of mine try this past wknd to do it and it kept flashing a error code and wouldn't allow us to proceed. Can someone please help direct me in the right direction much appreciated.
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You s should start your own thread. There are many different unlock so specify which one you're after, sim unlock? This section is only for android so if you need help on something else, post it in the hd2 general section, not here. Unless it is android related, you won't find help here.
Ok so if I install this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773790
I can just remove the file on the SD when it doesn't work like we want it too and everything will be back to normal right?
You are correct.
If it doesnt work for you just erase the android folder. I would recommend flashing hard spl, and changing your radio to 2.12.50.02_2. Then load the hyperdroid 1.6 rom. You will have the best luck with that probably without having to change anything in winmo.
JonasDroid said:
Ok so if I install this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773790
I can just remove the file on the SD when it doesn't work like we want it too and everything will be back to normal right?
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I'd recommend using a spare SD card. When you run Android it creates a ton of folders on it, so it's easier to have a dedicated one than to try and delete everything later (if he decides not to stick with Android).
Also, I read through the thread and couldn't see anywhere... did you tell us what radio is on the HD2? It needs to be (I believe) 2.08 or higher, and it's VERY recommended to have a 2.x.50 and not a 2.x.51 radio.
If you flash a 2.x.51 radio on a t-mobile US HD2 you will brick it. Try flashing radio 2.12.50.02_2
johncmolyneux said:
I'd recommend using a spare SD card. When you run Android it creates a ton of folders on it, so it's easier to have a dedicated one than to try and delete everything later (if he decides not to stick with Android).
Also, I read through the thread and couldn't see anywhere... did you tell us what radio is on the HD2? It needs to be (I believe) 2.08 or higher, and it's VERY recommended to have a 2.x.50 and not a 2.x.51 radio.
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Yeah dno the radio version or the bootloader version.
Do i need root to see that?? Is it just booting while pressing volume down to get the bootloader and the info I need?
Also I read that the HyperDroidV1.6 is overclocked and undervolted and I drather not do that. Just want it as stable as can be. (I know my overclocked legend is stable but if he has a really crappy processor,..)
BTW: I know what overclocking does but what's good about undervolting?? better batterylife?
I think I'll just give this a try this weekend (when my dad (and his phone xD)are home)
JonasDroid said:
Yeah dno the radio version or the bootloader version.
Do i need root to see that?? Is it just booting while pressing volume down to get the bootloader and the info I need?
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Just reboot the phone. The radio version is shown at the bottom left of the first white HTC screen (R,G,D - R is the radio version).
JonasDroid said:
Also I read that the HyperDroidV1.6 is overclocked and undervolted and I drather not do that. Just want it as stable as can be. (I know my overclocked legend is stable but if he has a really crappy processor,..)
BTW: I know what overclocking does but what's good about undervolting?? better batterylife?
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I'm assuming undervolting is for better battery life, but have never bothered with it myself. Just have a read of the most popular Android builds to see which you think will work for you. I can recommend FroyoStone Sense v3.1, but I would because that's what I use!
It's so easy to try the different builds that it's no big deal if you play with one and don't like it, so don't be shy - give em all a go if that's what it takes!
Edit: Just noticed your edit from when I was posting. lol
ok so I have been reading and what not... I have searched far and wide but still don't quite understand. But anyways here's my question.
Pros and cons of going to the other hboot?
Is there any reason to change my radio version? Will it benefit me at all?
is this idea of the way the phone works kind correct?
The phone starts up, hboot will load up the os files (which is my royalginger rom I installed)
So changing the hboot ver is like changing your BIOS ver on a computer motherboard.
now, what kind of tech is actually in this phone... A proc, graphics proc, memory, some storage space. Can any of these parts be modified, upgraded, or even touched? Or is it all permanently on the phones main chip.
And the last question. I know its possible to overclock phones.. But what is the best way to do it? Like, on my computer I never oc using software, always do it through the bios. But what's the best way on the glacier?
Thanks for answering any of these ?s... It'll all help me better understand my phone and how it works and I would like to learn this stuff well so I can help people out on this forum someday soon
To overclock:
1. Flash overclock kernal.
2. Install setcpu from market.
3. Go crazy.
4. You didn't search far and wide enough.
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Gopher love said:
Pros and cons of going to the other hboot?
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the .85 hboot will allow you to flash any part of a ROM, wipe any partition on the phone, and install recovery images from the Engineering scree. It helps you to not brick your phone. There have been a couple of people on this forum that would of bricked their device if they didn't have it.
Is there any reason to change my radio version? Will it benefit me at all?
is this idea of the way the phone works kind correct?
Gopher love said:
The phone starts up, hboot will load up the os files (which is my royalginger rom I installed)
So changing the hboot ver is like changing your BIOS ver on a computer motherboard.
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IIRC the HBoot would be similar to a BIOS. It physically loads the OS. However i've never changed a BIOS on a Windows Computer so i cannot tell you.
Gopher love said:
now, what kind of tech is actually in this phone... A proc, graphics proc, memory, some storage space. Can any of these parts be modified, upgraded, or even touched? Or is it all permanently on the phones main chip.
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It's all soldered into the main board and cannot be tampered with unless you feel like soldering, writing a kernel and a new OS.
Gopher love said:
And the last question. I know its possible to overclock phones.. But what is the best way to do it? Like, on my computer I never oc using software, always do it through the bios. But what's the best way on the glacier?
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The best way to over clock a ROM is to download and install a kernel. You will need a program similar to SetCPU to manage the speed. If you should download Cyanogen(mod)'s CM7.x it will have a overclocking kernel natively.
Gopher love said:
Thanks for answering any of these ?s... It'll all help me better understand my phone and how it works and I would like to learn this stuff well so I can help people out on this forum someday soon
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No problem, feel free to ask question and use the search alot of stuff as already been hit on.
well as far as the radio goes, some people (such as myself) have reported a better signal by flashing the newer radio, i noticed between 1-2 bar increase within the same spot in my room
smatthew45 said:
well as far as the radio goes, some people (such as myself) have reported a better signal by flashing the newer radio, i noticed between 1-2 bar increase within the same spot in my room
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With the caveat that, not always but often, better a radio with better signal will come at the expense of battery life.
screw up your bios and you pull the cmos battery, unplug the power supply and you're fine. screw up the radio or hboot and you have nothing to fall back on. A phone is a lot like a pc, without all of the fallback and replaceable parts.
I've been using the engineering radio for a few weeks now, no complaints, was worth the simple flash.
1. ok so to overclock I flash an overclock kernel. Can I flash in a new kernel without changing to a different rom (as in can I keep my royalginger thing I flashed in)
2. By installing the engineering hboot I can change any part of the rom. Does this mean I can do the above? Change my kernel without changing the whole rom?
3. A newer radio has the potential to increase my signal?
4. I've been searching for a while and still can't figure out the difference between an asop, sense, etc types of roms?
You guys are an amazing help... Thank you so much
Gopher love said:
1. ok so to overclock I flash an overclock kernel. Can I flash in a new kernel without changing to a different rom (as in can I keep my royalginger thing I flashed in)
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YES. You need to make sure that you use a AOSP ROM kernel or a Sense Kernel. I'm not 100% sure about Royal Ginger. I believe it's AOSP but you'll want to double check
Gopher love said:
2. By installing the engineering hboot I can change any part of the rom. Does this mean I can do the above? Change my kernel without changing the whole rom?
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Yes. But you can flash kernels w/o needing the E-hBoot. You can flash them from the recovery. and not they will not mess with anything.
Gopher love said:
3. A newer radio has the potential to increase my signal?
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Yes some people are reporting that.
Gopher love said:
4. I've been searching for a while and still can't figure out the difference between an asop, sense, etc types of roms?
You guys are an amazing help... Thank you so much
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AOSP = Android Open Source Project. Look at the G2 for an idea. Cyanogen has AOSP style UI, but they throw some extra options in.
Sense = HTC Skin. It's what the Droid Inc, Desire, come with
MotoBlur = Motorola's Skin all of the Moto Droid line & the Cliq come with
Espresso / MySense = T-Mobile's custom Skin for the MyTouch 4G
thanks man. That helped a lot. One last question? By check what it is do you mean look up on the internet or on my phone
Gopher love said:
thanks man. That helped a lot. One last question? By check what it is do you mean look up on the internet or on my phone
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Kernels are based on the style of skin that you are using. We uses either Sense or AOSP. You need to know what type of ROM you are using, and flash the correct kernel. Meaning you cannot use a AOSP kernel on a Sense ROM. So make sure you know what RoyalGinger is prior to digging though Kernels.
Is there a way to confirm or verify if I have engineering boot installed?
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power off, hold power and volume down together. 0.86 is default, 0.85 is engineering.
darinmc said:
power off, hold power and volume down together. 0.86 is default, 0.85 is engineering.
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Could you explain how the eng hboot can help me not brick my phone?
kimbernator said:
Could you explain how the eng hboot can help me not brick my phone?
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Because it will allow you flash, wipe, or load specific sections of your ROM or allow you to reflash recovery images if one should fail. most people will never encounter this but it's a good failsafe to have on your phone.
neidlinger said:
Because it will allow you flash, wipe, or load specific sections of your ROM or allow you to reflash recovery images if one should fail. most people will never encounter this but it's a good failsafe to have on your phone.
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So if i ever have an issue like some people are having where recovery says something like "cannot mount cache" causing the flashing to not work, I can fix that through the eng hboot?
Gopher love said:
thanks man. That helped a lot. One last question? By check what it is do you mean look up on the internet or on my phone
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faux's kernels clearing state which rom they will work for, so pick a rom, then pick a kernel if you want, overclocking isnt really necessary on our phones since its plenty fast already
btw royalginger is based on cm7 which is based on aosp
kimbernator said:
So if i ever have an issue like some people are having where recovery says something like "cannot mount cache" causing the flashing to not work, I can fix that through the eng hboot?
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i assume it would depend on the exact reason why it stop reading the cache partition. I do know i've see a few threads where people flashed a different recovery image and was able to re flash a ROM and getting it work. But then again it'd all depend on why it failed.
smatthew45 said:
faux's kernels clearing state which rom they will work for, so pick a rom, then pick a kernel if you want, overclocking isnt really necessary on our phones since its plenty fast already
btw royalginger is based on cm7 which is based on aosp
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Yea.. The phone is plenty fast.. But that's just me.. i like to see how much father I can push it.
Is there a newer version of eng hboot above 0.85
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While we're on the subject of radios, where can I download the latest version for mt4g
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