Are all front TyTN buttons supposed to be backlit? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

On the front of the TyTN, my answer (green phone) and hang up (red phone) buttons are back lit, but the other keys that surround the D-pad (Windows, OK and two softkeys) aren't backlit.
Is that correct?

sportwa72 said:
On the front of the TyTN, my answer (green phone) and hang up (red phone) buttons are back lit, but the other keys that surround the D-pad (Windows, OK and two softkeys) aren't backlit.
Is that correct?
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Yes thats correct, my tytn does exactly the same.
Shame some of the other buttons arnt designed too tho, somtimes I catch the wrong one when im in the dark.

I doesnt seem to have any problems with the non backlit buttons. U can pretty much see all the buttons when you turn your tytn on.. And the layout is pretty straightforward!
Learn to use it and remember where the buttons are. The TyTN has alot of buttons to make 1 hand operation easy so you should memorize it

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Tweak / mod the Power button

Hi!
Is it just me or is the power button real tough to press?
Has anyone thought of adding a small mod to raise this button to make it easier to press?
Any luck?
Thanks!
The left hand side of mine (as you look at the screen) is slightly raised.
Isn't yours ?
Yup, it's raised but just a little; i don't think I'm "fat thumbed" but it's really difficult to press while using just one hand.
I agree but it's not as bad as I found the Tytn II.
I've now got used to aiming at the left hand side of the HD button which is raised higher.
Of course, I often just use the stylus pull to switch on as well.
On the Tytn II I superglued a slice of cable insulation to the button. This worked fine. I used a small black cable and cut the insulation longways to the right size. It needed steady hands but was a good solution.
one good thing in other pda's is that in the settings menu was that keylock applet, in which you could have all the keys unlocked, so you can power on the device only by pressing the front keys, and not bother with the power button.
But i can not see this applet in the rom i have 1.14
Does anyone know how we can have this keylock applet again?
While it can sometimes be a bit of a pain to press I'm glad that it doesn't accidentally get pressed whilst in my pocket, I often don't bother locking it so I'd be pressing stuff all over the place.
Cheesy Dave said:
I agree but it's not as bad as I found the Tytn II.
I've now got used to aiming at the left hand side of the HD button which is raised higher.
Of course, I often just use the stylus pull to switch on as well.
On the Tytn II I superglued a slice of cable insulation to the button. This worked fine. I used a small black cable and cut the insulation longways to the right size. It needed steady hands but was a good solution.
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Yes, i'm also seriously contemplating that solution
I'm just afraid that the button might get damaged because of the super glue... things might get messy
ubik said:
Yes, i'm also seriously contemplating that solution
I'm just afraid that the button might get damaged because of the super glue... things might get messy
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Well it worked so well on the Tytn II that I never took it off so I can't judge !!
pntzamaras said:
one good thing in other pda's is that in the settings menu was that keylock applet, in which you could have all the keys unlocked, so you can power on the device only by pressing the front keys, and not bother with the power button.
But i can not see this applet in the rom i have 1.14
Does anyone know how we can have this keylock applet again?
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Funny, I'm trying to achieve the exact opposite
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455215
I want my buttons to work only if power is pressed
sebbes said:
Funny, I'm trying to achieve the exact opposite
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455215
I want my buttons to work only if power is pressed
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3003051&postcount=2

Hard to Press the Power Button !!

Hi All, I have owned a lot of HTC phones and now I have the HD, its the first time I see HTC phone with such small, thin, and hard to press power button !!
especially in the dark, I cant press it and wake up my phone easily !!
I MANAGED TO TWEAK MY HD and now I wake up my device pressing the volume button, but again I have new problem : sometimes when I carry my phone the volume get pressed by mistake and the ringer get muted or low and I miss some calls !!!
Any solution for this problem so I can wake up my phone from the standby without pressing the microscopic power button !!
Take out the stylus and insert it back again. That wakes up the device. Otherwise you might want to search for a G-sensor enabled "wake-up" application. "Shake_it_to_wake" so to speak...
ahmadddd said:
Hi All, I have owned a lot of HTC phones and now I have the HD, its the first time I see HTC phone with such small, thin, and hard to press power button !!
especially in the dark, I cant press it and wake up my phone easily !!
I MANAGED TO TWEAK MY HD and now I wake up my device pressing the volume button, but again I have new problem : sometimes when I carry my phone the volume get pressed by mistake and the ringer get muted or low and I miss some calls !!!
Any solution for this problem so I can wake up my phone from the standby without pressing the microscopic power button !!
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Hello
Use S2u2
facet_ said:
Hello
Use S2u2
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How can you use it to wake up the device? I don't see that option in the description, except the default stylus in and out...
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I guess S2U won´t help you with waking up your device but if you use volume buttons it will protect you from accidental muting your phone.
I found power hard to press, too, but then I looked closely: This power 'button' is indeed non-symmetrical - at least on *my* device: it stands up a bit on one side, the left side, which is closer to the middle of the HD. So I press it *there*, because obviously enough that's the place where the sensor is located. It works easy every time.
ducatisto said:
I found power hard to press, too, but then I looked closely: This power 'button' is indeed non-symmetrical - at least on *my* device: it stands up a bit on one side, the left side, which is closer to the middle of the HD. So I press it *there*, because obviously enough that's the place where the sensor is located. It works easy every time.
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Thats a brilliant tip. Thank you.
david-v said:
How can you use it to wake up the device? I don't see that option in the description, except the default stylus in and out...
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Hello , use keylock.exe and set unlocking any key + s2u2,
ahmadddd said:
I MANAGED TO TWEAK MY HD and now I wake up my device pressing the volume button,
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Can you tell me how?
Ducasito. Good observation. I wondered why sometime it was easy and sometimes hard. So the slight non-symmetrical button is not a manufacturing fault but a very subtle design feature. Now I know which side to hit. Thanks
Seems all HD's are different OR I have a very heavy finger.
All I need to do to get it to wake it lightly touch the power button and it comes on.
JanSchotsmans said:
Seems all HD's are different OR I have a very heavy finger.
All I need to do to get it to wake it lightly touch the power button and it comes on.
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I suppose it is just a matter of "where" you push the button. Just push it on the left edge (where the small led is placed) and you will not need that much pressure to switch the device on or off. The button sensor is actually under that left edge. the picture shows the powerbutton part (picture taken from the HTC Touch HD service manual). Under the left edge of it is the sensor, so putting the pressure there is the best way of pressing the button
ahmadddd wrote:
"I MANAGED TO TWEAK MY HD and now I wake up my device pressing the volume button"
my question is: how did you manage it? with a special registry key?
....since a few months I`m searching for a solution....please help me
(my fingers are too big for the Power button)
many thanks, Michael
TFH said:
ahmadddd wrote:
"I MANAGED TO TWEAK MY HD and now I wake up my device pressing the volume button"
my question is: how did you manage it? with a special registry key?
....since a few months I`m searching for a solution....please help me
(my fingers are too big for the Power button)
many thanks, Michael
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You can use AE button plus. I use this to convert my volum buttons to up and down buttons on single click, select/ok on double click, and volume on hold and press.
Thanks for your answer but I´ve a further question:
Do you "wake up" (from standby) the blackstone by using this AE button? I tried to use this software but I couldn`t wake up the Touch HD from standby by using the volume buttons.

[Q] Making touch keys less touchy/easier unlock

Annoying Touch buttons
I think that the most DHD users have the same problem, touching the buttons at the bottom if you really dont want to.
So my question is if it would be possible to change the "Home" or the "Menu" button (pushing long) from "last used apps" to "turn on/off the touch keys???
that would be awsome
thx Dr.Pepper
Never been an issue for me, although i was anticipating problems with no hardware buttons its been fine...
Pepper90 said:
I think that the most DHD users have the same problem, touching the buttons at the bottom if you really dont want to.
So my question is if it would be possible to change the "Home" or the "Menu" button (pushing long) from "last used apps" to "turn on/off the touch keys???
that would be awsome
thx Dr.Pepper
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Can't help but say, "you're holding it wrong!"
Seriously though I've never encountered this problem on either this phone or my N1 which has a smaller screen.
How exactly are you managing to press the buttons by mistake?
Regards.
iam the only one who has the problem that he accidently hits a touch key while using the phone or playing a game? every little contact triggers the keys. i.e. if i use the thumb to type a message, holding the phone in the right hand, i sometimes trigger the search key.
my idea is to make it harder to trigger these keys. as they are part of the touchscreen, it sould be possible to do anything that can be done with the touch sreen. my ideas:
1. double-touch; tapping the key 2 times (like a double-klick) triggers it once
2. sweep; i.e. you touch the home-button and sweep out of it, then release. can be even harder with sweeping out and back in.
3. circle-touch; making a little circle over the button triggers it.
other ideas welcome.
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2nd problem: easier unlocking;
i feel it sometimes tricky to unlock the pone, wich is done by pressing the powerbutton at the top of the phone and sweeping on the bottom of the screen. the phone is'nt very small (or i have small hands). if iam holding the phone at the bottom, i can nearly reach the whole touch area with my thumb, but to unlock, i need to use my 2nd hand or to juggle the phone so i can reach the power button with the right hand. with the G1, which had a menu button at the bottom, it was just double-pressing that button and the phone was unlocked. iam looking for a similar easy way to do it.
its just annoying to take the phone out of the pocket and use both handy or juggle around to unlock it...
i dont know it it wastes additional energy to have the touchscreen active, so it can be used to unlock the phone. so my ideas:
1. use the touchscreen to unlock; i.e. draw a pattern, press the bottom key in some order (home, back, menu to unlock)
2.1 use the volume keys. if the screen is disabled, they are used to change the audio volume (or is that only the case, if music is playing?) When holding the phone at the bottom with the right hand, the volume-down hey is easily reachable. so you can do volume-down (which activates the screen) and then slide on the screen like you would do if you have pressed the power button. pressing volume-down with deactivated screen does not change the volume, but pressing it twice does (i.e. 1st press unlocks the screen and 2nd press takes volume down).
2.2 press vol-up and vol-down at the same time to unlock the phone. if i do that the phone vibrates sometimes, no idea why.
3. use acceleromater (or a other sensor?) to unlock, i.e. shaking the phone in a special way (i.e. a circle), activates the screen, so you can unlock it by sliding on it. also full unlock by shaking a phone could be possible (also known as kung-fu-unlock )
other ideas also welcome.
Proximity sensor for unlock when taking it out of the pocket :-D. I have the same problem as you so a 'fix' would be nice
yeah, you take the phone out of the pocket and it unlocks and says "hello raw, how you are doing?".
but that would be nice. question is if constantly checking the prox sensor would drain the battery much. it needs to be checked every 3 seconds or so.
lynxboy said:
Can't help but say, "you're holding it wrong!"
Seriously though I've never encountered this problem on either this phone or my N1 which has a smaller screen.
How exactly are you managing to press the buttons by mistake?
Regards.
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if i try to use the phone with one hand
seems like here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=854073) is another user with that problem.
same problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9550179#post9550179
Merged threads as topic is similar....
Cheers,
M_T_M

Turn screen on with a touch

In the display setting we can adjust the screem timeout. Mine is on 10 minutes for example.
Is there any application which can turn on the screen just with a touch on the screen (instead of pressing the power button) ?
Would be very nice together with the application "Unlock with WiFi"
I mean is there any application which enables the functionality to get the screen back (phone is not locked) only by touching the screen (instead of pressing the power switch on the top).
I know, folks, it is not a big deal to press the power switch, it is just a little bit more comfort to touch the screen only
I don't, believe so, but you can use the volume keys:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1107041
scoob8000 said:
I don't, believe so, but you can use the volume keys:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1107041
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Hi scoob800. Thanks, but the volume keys would be pritty "the same" as to press the power button.
Generally spoken. Is it possible (and in case it is) and is there any application which can detect a touch on the screen, even if the screen is off ?
Well, the only thing I can think of is to set your screen to never autolocking and have a screensaver app that leaves the screen black. If you do that your battery will probably drain a good bit seeing as your screen will always be on.
Sent from my Gingerblurred Atrix
You can achieve this with NoLED, but that is not its intended purpose. I will explain how: When you get a notification that would normally trigger your LED, NoLED displays a customizable icon on a black screen. With SGS, which it was developed for, has samoled screen and black uses little to no bat/cpu. This is NOT the case with the Atrix, your battery WILL suffer. So battery aside.. Set NoLED to display the time (that way its always on even when you dont have a new notification). Now play with the settings, tell it to "wake up" with the home key. TaDa!
the short answer is feasibly NO. having the touchscreen on at all times will DESTROY your battery life. your only option is to enable the volume buttons.
I use the volume buttons with no lock screen ..... waaaayyy better then powerbutton
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Would like to avoid stress on the buttons
dLo GSR said:
the short answer is feasibly NO. having the touchscreen on at all times will DESTROY your battery life. your only option is to enable the volume buttons.
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OK. But to be honest, what is the difference to use the volume buttons instead the power button ? I would like to avoid this mechanical stress of these buttons. As I used my last phone ( a Samsung) for 8 years, I am afraid, my ATRIX will not make it such a long time
But I got an other idea. What about one of the four "softkey" buttons ? For example the home button.
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OK. But to be honest, what is the difference to use the volume buttons instead the power button ? I would like to avoid this mechanical stress of these buttons. As I used my last phone ( a Samsung) for 8 years, I am afraid, my ATRIX will not make it such a long time
But I got an other idea. What about one of the four "softkey" buttons ? For example the home button.
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The problem is they're still softkeys and not actual hardware buttons. Using the volume is just easier to press depending how your holding the phone. That and your spreading out that wear of the power button across 3 different buttons.
scoob8000 said:
The problem is they're still softkeys and not actual hardware buttons. Using the volume is just easier to press depending how your holding the phone. That and your spreading out that wear of the power button across 3 different buttons.
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Soft keys will waste a lot of battery, it isn't a good way to turn on your screen by either soft keys or touchscreen

Would you like to have more hardware buttons on SGS?

Being pretty satisfied with SGS experience I still miss some mechanical buttons on my Hero. It was so convenient being able to initiate a call, hang up and put the phone to sleep without even looking at the screen. Especially I loved the idea of combined hang up/power button on the front panel - when the phone call ends you simply double-tap the button and it hands up and then turns off the screen.
Would you agree this iPhone-like elimination of mechanical buttons sacrifices phone usability for the sake of aesthetics?
i have voted a full qwerty, but i think a camera dedicated button would be nice...
Camerabutton would be awsome
BTW my homebutton isnt working ):
You can answer, hang up and turn the screen off with home and power button, so what you want is partially already there and i prefer it more than any more buttons on the front panel.
Don't know how you would initialize a call with a single button though, as you have to find a contact or type a number.
And i don't quite get it, you have a Hero now or SGS? or both?
opica said:
You can answer, hang up and turn the screen off with home and power button, so what you want is partially already there and i prefer it more than any more buttons on the front panel.
Don't know how you would initialize a call with a single button though, as you have to find a contact or type a number.
And i don't quite get it, you have a Hero now or SGS? or both?
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Sorry, by "initiate" I meant "answer", which is actually available on SGS via home button. On the other hand reaching the power button is not so convenient when I compare it to that on Hero which is located on the front panel and can be easily reached by thumb, no matter what hand you are holding the phone in.

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