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RIL, GSM APIs, Cell ID and other

Hi folks.
I'm writing some lines of code to play with RIL and gsm embedded function of my XDAII. I have also XDAI and QTEK 1010 and 2020.
I tried to discover a method to retrieve CELL ID for the first test...
Without success (i played also with gknavigation.de's terminal beta program).
All people interested in this argument is asking about CELL-PROFILER. I think that this is a good software, but POCKET OOZ used work from xda-developers or from xs4all? If yes, please POCKET OOZ share your infos! If not, i apologize with POCKET OOZ and i want to work with this forum to resolve this nice problem.
i've tried to use DevSpecific 24 and 26 modifying tstril, but without success. GetCellTowerInfo returns negative value (error? not implemented?).
We have some news about this?
thanks
bye
davide

noxious said:
Hi folks.
I'm writing some lines of code to play with RIL and gsm embedded function of
thanks
bye
davide
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Support ,I am writing now,make a friend.my MSN:[email protected]

CellID
Did you get anywhere with this?
Would be useful to retrieve CellID, LAC, BSIC and IMEI (of the SIM) all in one fell swoop. Then, post that data (including a timestamp) to a defined server / port config
If you get any code you want testing, do let me know - as I'm a professional applications and system infrastructure tester, should be a good fit

A bit late, but others might need this eventually.
There's this lib you can use for free and read the Cell ID for devices on GSM Networks:
http://teksoftco.com/index.php?section=press&cat=2009#090611

Control Radio Devices [Bluetooth, Phone, WiFi] Programatically

Hi all,
It is possible to have a multi-platform solution for controlling the Radio Devices Hardware.
For this we can use some exports in the ossvcs.dll file.
I have prepared an article descriebing this procedure, and a c++ sample.
The link is:
http://www.teksoftco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=194
Ciao

Very interesting. Any progress?

Navigating to Bluetooth settings on a HTC HD2 with WM6.5 programatically
Hi,
Just to expand on this, does any body know how to directly navigate to the Bluetooth settings on a HTC HD2 WM6.5 device programmatically. I have tried the following, but it does not seem to work:
System.Diagnostics.Process.Start(@"\Windows\ctlpnl.exe", "cplmain.cpl,23");
System.Diagnostics.Process.Start(@"\Windows\ctlpnl.exe", "cplmain.cpl,23,0");
System.Diagnostics.Process.Start(@"\Windows\ctlpnl.exe", "cplmain.cpl,23,1");
I have tried other combinations to access, say the GPS settings and it does work. So what am I doing wrong?
Any help would be most appeciated.
Thanks

TyTN cellid?

Hi. I am writing a freeware social networking application based on location services ( http://www.fightersoft.ro/mts/index.htm ). Although many devices are supported, it seems that the HTC TyTN isn't. To that end I acquired one and now I am on the quest on getting the cellid in my application.
The approach that should of worked was the COM port. However, no matter what COM port I open, I get a create file error. I am guessing that maybe the internal modem uses a weird port name such as COM550 or other letters instead of COM. I know that another way of getting the cellid is by using ril.dll (or even getting the handle to the gsm modem com port). However, in WM5 this is not documented at all on msdn.com - BUT for WM6 there is documentation.
Firstly, I want to ask anyone if they have extra information about this issue and secondly if by upgrading to WM6, the using the COM port approach works from the box (usually COM9)?

hi, I tryed many programs, which have actually support for cellid information, but no one work on herm, no matter if it was WM5 or WM6. on all phones, I had before it worked correctly... phone alarm also have this functionality, but shown only something like 00-00...

This is so frustrating. Every mobile device with GSM capabilities has a GSM modem insinde. That modem SHOULD be accesible from the OS by the means of COM ports. My guess is that this port is hidden or under a different name than the rest of the HTC devices where it resides on COM9.

CommMgrPro shows Cell Id and Location Area Code correctly on TyNT

I started this thread in the hopes that people will contribute with ideas towards getting this task done. Can you reveal any technical information on how you get the cellid information?

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I started this thread in the hopes that people will contribute with ideas towards getting this task done. Can you reveal any technical information on how you get the cellid information?
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Sure. Ril.dll gives you access to this information and works properly in WM5-WM6. And technically is easier than manager serial drivers......
Documentation isnt included in WM5 so it isnt "official" but realky It is included. The only problem for "not official" issue is you wont get support from microsoft....
Ask me what you want...

stargatesg1, if you have searched the forum, you'd already have the answer. For instance, this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280476&highlight=cellid
has a reference to RIL API. And I do remember I told you this some months ago in your another thread...
Here it is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1040464&postcount=27
It was at October 26 last year!

Basically I only need the cellid and the lac. I found that msdn.com offers documentation for ril.dll for WM6. This also works for WM5?
From what I learned from msdn.com is that I should do a ril.initialize first and then I should get the cell info using a fuction that I can't remember right now. Is this approach correct?
Lurker0, I know about this approach (I have mentioned it in my first post) however, I need more information because c++ native is not my primary envoirement for developing. That's why I kept searching for a way of getting the lac-cid from com ports so that I could do it directly from managed code.

stargatesg1 said:
Basically I only need the cellid and the lac. I found that msdn.com offers documentation for ril.dll for WM6. This also works for WM5?
From what I learned from msdn.com is that I should do a ril.initialize first and then I should get the cell info using a fuction that I can't remember right now. Is this approach correct?
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Exactly. I downloaded Platform builder to have includes and libraries.
1) Initialize Ril
2.a) Request Position explicitally using a RIL_gettowerinfo
2.b) When you initializa Ril you can pass a callback to be notified upon location changes....

Did you read the source code for RIL interface that I pointed you to?

danielherrero, I see. Regarding the callback function is not neccessary in my app - the user or the app set on auto mode searches for changes in location. Thank you very much for your info.
Lurker0, yes I did, but like I said, I am not a very experienced c++ programmer and I need some documentation to get me started. I am also very greatful for your help and I am sure that I will use information from rilclass.cpp.
Thank you both, I will post back with the results as soon as I will have any.

Good luck

Hi StargateSG,
Did you succeeded in getting MTS working on Tytn?
Rgds

I had to leave the country on a business trip. I'll get back in a few days and I will start working on the problem.

danielherrero said:
CommMgrPro shows Cell Id and Location Area Code correctly on TyNT
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Does nothing on the Blue Angel.

Tomtom 6 & quickgpsfix

Is it possible to get quickgpsfix to work on the Hermes? I have a T-Mobile MDA Vario II.
In Tomtom plus services, I see quickgpsfix, but it's not downloadable (greyed out).
The tomtom faq indicates that it's only available for specific tomtom devices, but I'm sure i've seen somewhere that quickgps fix works on a Kaiser, yet that is not listed as a supported device.

Typical for this forum: If someone ask for a real usefull question for apps or tweaks he get no answer!
Everybody is in the Kaiserforum or messing around with useless romcooking.
Anyway
I tried the quickgps app form here:
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=23432&whichpage=7#301098
Installation worked well (is updating the amanarch from a server too)
but i must say it did not really reduce the time to get a fix.
I wonder if there is some tweaking neccesary to make it work on a Hermes?

Thanks Andreasfuntastic. I will check it out.
Cheers
Mike

CellID in standby

I tried several programs which work with the CellID (G-Profile, PhoneAlarm, rk-Location....).
No one is working properly with the HD2.
The all get a CellID but when the HD2 is in standby, the CellID is not updated anymore.
Only when the device wakes up, the applications get the new CellID.
So this "feature" makes all these programs quite useless.
Is there any way to overcome this?

PhoneWeaver 2.0 does. It wake up the device for a fraction of second to refresh the cellID data.

CellID
Hi Jack,
in the past i wrote a utility for my HTC Wizard which read the CellID from memory. With a custom low level application you could read memory and find the current CellID. I based my application partially on CellTrack.
The problem was that with each ROM the memory location of the CellID information was relocated. You had to find the memory location by creating a dump and search for some known content (for instance the Country Code, which was 204 for The Netherlands where i live).
greetings, Sander

Thank's for the response.
PhoneWeaver 2.0 is really the first program which works.
It seems to be that with WinMobile 6.5 the CellID is only updated when the device is fully waked up.