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Blue Angel Wi-Fi connection settings

I have the PDA2k and I'm having problems alternating between the GPRS connection and the Wi-Fi connection. I will try to explain the problem:
I live in Saudi Arabia and therefore, unfortunately, all connections to the Internet must go through a government proxy server. Each connection has a different proxy server address based on the service provider.
I have set up in my house a wireless Wi-Fi network that connects to the Internet. What I mentioned above entails that the proxy address used for my home connection is different from the proxy address used for my GPRS connection.
For this purpose I had to configure a different connection settings for each connection. I went to Start>>Settings>>Connections>>Connections>>Advanced and clicked on "Select Networks". For my GPRS connection there is a connection settings called "STC_Saudi_Arabia" that has the GPRS proxy address configured. I also entered the proxy address used for my Wi-Fi connection in the "My Workplace" connection settings.
Whenever my phone connects through GPRS it automatically selects the "STC_Saudi_Arabia" for the "Programs that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using:" option. This is congifured by my PDA2k provider.
Nevertheless, whenever I turn on my Wi-Fi the device automatically selects a connection setting called "My ISP". This is very inconvenient because the "My ISP" connection does not have a field to enter any proxy settings.
Thus, whenever I turn on my Wi-Fi (either because I was out of the house and connecting through GPRS or because my deviced turned off automatically and thus turned off the Wi-Fi adapter) I must go into connections and select the "My Workplace" settings rather than the "My ISP" one.
Is there anyway to associate the "My Workplace" connection with the Wi-Fi adapter? Or, can I configure my proxy address in my "My ISP" connection instead?
On another remotely related topic, why must the Wi-Fi adapter turn off whenever the device shuts off? Can't I choose to keep it on even when the device shuts off?
Thank you everybody... I really appreciate the help

You should be able to easily add your proxy settings to the MY ISP Connection.

imagine_einstein said:
You should be able to easily add your proxy settings to the MY ISP Connection.
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But see, that's impossible. When I edit the "My ISP" connection I only get the "General" and "Modem" tabs, no tab for proxy servers. I will attempt to attach an image capture of the edit screen for the "My ISP" connection which should depict the lack of a proxy tab.
If you would kindly guide me as to how edit the proxy settings for the "My ISP" connection I would be very grateful

Ok, for some reason the image I uploaded was replaced by some image that I have no idea where it came from. It is definately not a file that I uploaded and absolutely not an image capture of my device. I will attempt to upload the file again and see if this works...

That looks nothing like what I saw on my German ROM, the imate ROM or even the HP 6315 ROM
What did you use for the screen captures, I can capture some shots and see if you can find them on your phone.

I'd still like a link to the screen capture but here is the solution:
Start/settings/connections/WLAN/tools/NetworkCards:
If your not connect to an Access point then you see "My network card connects to:" at the top, use the pull down to select WORK.
If your connected to an Access Point then select the Network adapters tab and then selec WORK from the pull down.
Let me know if this works

paulmc said:
That looks nothing like what I saw on my German ROM, the imate ROM or even the HP 6315 ROM
What did you use for the screen captures, I can capture some shots and see if you can find them on your phone.
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I do not understand what you mean by that :? My only guess is that I have caused some confusion by the posting of two images. If that's the case then allow me to explain:
the first image, the one with the "No Bluetooth device was foudn" message, is not a screen capture of mine. I'm guessing that it was attached to my post instead of the image that I uploaded because it had a similar file name to an image uploaded by another user in some other thread.
The screen capture that should depict the fact that I cannot edit any proxy settings on the "My ISP" connection is found in the following message.
Well, now that we've got that out of the way, I tried the solution that you have suggested but to no avail. Whether my selection was "Work" or "Internet" my device would automatically select "My ISP" whenever the Wi-Fi is turned off and turned on again.
Paulmc, I really appreciate that time you're taking to help me out here I owe you one :wink:

I'm not sure what to suggest now, Sorry.

Hey, thanks a lot of trying. I really appreciate it...
Is it only I that suffers from this problem? If anyone else connects to the Internet through different proxy servers then I would appreciate some feedback.
Thanks all

Try creating a new connection under MY WORK CONNECTIONS when you go into connections. You can add a modem connection there as well as set up proxy connections..
Then go into the preferred networks and use the my work connections as both internet and work..

I've noticed the same problem on my SX66. It seems that when the wi-fi card turns on, My ISP is always selected (even if the Wi-Fi card says that it's connected to Work which has a proxy server selected). The only way that I've found to work around this is to go to the network settings, make a selection change that will then trigger the proper connection to be selected.
This makes keeping my inbox up to date over Wi-Fi at work completely impossible.

Strange GRPS problem with Qtek9000

Hello,
I'm having problem with GRPS on my Qtek 9000.
All the settings are ok, as they are checked on Nokia/Sony Ericcson/IPAQ
We have 6 Qtek 9000 and they all are having the same problem.
When we setup grps and try to connect with IE it just trying to connect and after wile he tells that he is having some problems.
All sim cards as mentioned up are ok and tested to be working for GRPS, on HP IPAQ 6515 GRPS is tested and working ok.
As we determined it seems like he is not trying even to "dial out", when I setup Cellular line to dialout some phone number that also doesn succeed. We tried also with original ROM and the same problems apper
Any idea what could be the problem???

having some problems
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Not an error message I am familiar with. :roll:

This is the error message that I get every time:
Cannot connect for an unknown reason. To check your connection settings and change them if needed, tap Settings. If the problem continues, reset your mobile device according to your manufacturer's documentation and try again.
We tried soft reset and hard reset no changes
When have been done one stupid test.
PC speakers when you are connecting with IPAQ you hear the sound on speakers that he is "dialing out"
when you try with qtek nothing as he is even not trying to dial out

Well if your settings are correct and they are entered under the "My ISP" connections and not "My Work Network" and the correct GPRS settings are selected under My ISP->Manage Existing connections. I've no ideas other than to check
Settings->Network Card has My Network Card connects to: the Internet

When I go to:
Settings>Connections>Network Cards>Tab Network adapters
My network card connects to:
The Internet
Tap an adapter to modify ....
Do I need to change something from these settings????
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UPDATE:
When I changed to:
My network card connects to:
Work
Applyed and soft reset
I got the G sign but still no sucess to connect

No it should be internet.
Have you checked that under Settings->Connections->Manage Existing Connections that the correct operator is selected if you have more than one set of GPRS settings.
Do you know if your network uses PAP or CHAP if not try changing to the other one under Settings->Connections->GPRS Setting
Have you tried a 3G sim ?
Other than that nothing I can suggest.
Good luck

When I perform hard reset
Is says work and now i changed to The internet
Well the settings are tryed on the phone and IPAQ everything work well
3G+ Bosnia = NOT GONNA HAPPEN IN 100 years

Authentication is PAP
and there is no username and password nor domain name

Odd question about connectivity

I have been talking to at&t customer support (without success BTW) about a strange problem. Here it is:
I recently received a replacement 8525. My previous 8525 had the original ROM and the latest has the new ROM upgrade. On GPRS, the old phone would connect to isp.cingular access point name but the new phone won't. The new phone will only connect to wap.cingular access point name. (Both phones used/use the My ISP (without the proxy) network.)
With my previous phone, I was able to download radio show podcasts by going to the website of the radio show and then click on the download link. A "Save As" dialog would display and I would save the mp3. On the new phone the PIE displays that it can't display the page.
Here is the strange part. When I connected to my Wi-Fi at home (NOT through a PC but directly to the wireless router from the phone) I could download the mp3 just like the previous phone. I went to the web site, clicked the link, and received the "Save As" dialog.
This looks to me that there is nothing wrong with the phone since the mp3 could be downloaded through the Wi-Fi connection, but there is a problem getting the download through the GPRS connection.
Am I wrong in this? Any ideas will be welcome, I'm getting tired of talking to at&t.
Thanks.

Cycles4Fun said:
I have been talking to at&t customer support (without success BTW) about a strange problem. Here it is:
I recently received a replacement 8525. My previous 8525 had the original ROM and the latest has the new ROM upgrade. On GPRS, the old phone would connect to isp.cingular access point name but the new phone won't. The new phone will only connect to wap.cingular access point name. (Both phones used/use the My ISP (without the proxy) network.)
Thanks.
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I had the same problem before.
When ever your plan or phone changes (or anything with your account) your isp connectivity is turned off.
What you must do is call at&t and tell them to turn your isp.cingular back on.
If they give you some lip (I haven't had any lip from them)Just tell them that your VPN will only work using isp.cingular.
I've had to do this 3 times.
Also don't forget to remove the "EnableAutoDetect" from the registry...that will also stop PIE from working under isp.
HTH

I'm assuming you have the PDA connect plan if you're trying to use isp.cingular, right? Also, if you're using wap.cingular and you can't access the web as usual, you probably have a proxy set up. Check that out and report back.

How do I check to see if I have a proxy set up?
I have my "My ISP" network configured to connect to wap.cingular which doesn't have the proxy selection. That is the network I am currently using. I have also found a program on my phone call Proxy Manager. It consists of two programs: Disable Proxy and Restore Proxy. Do I need to run the Disable Proxy program?

rpw123 said:
I had the same problem before.
Also don't forget to remove the "EnableAutoDetect" from the registry...that will also stop PIE from working under isp.
HTH
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AT&T now acknowledges that the 8525 cannot connect to ISP out of the box. The fix came out around wednesday 7/25. Their fix is to run the Disable Proxy in the Proxy Manager folder in Programs. This didn't work for me.
I performed a hard reset and tried AT&T's fix again. It still wouldn't connect. So I tried to delete "EnableAutoDetect" from the registry. After attempting to run PIE (and failing) I looked back in the registry and it was back. I noticed the value of "EnableAutoDetect" was "0". So for fun I set it to "1". I was able to connect to the internet.
I then modified the "My ISP" settings to compress the headers and the "EnableAutoDetect" was reset to "0". I reset it back to "1" and it has run ever since.
So if you have an AT&T 8525 and you have PDA Connect Unlimited and cannot connect with the "My ISP" settings do this:
1. Go to Programs/Proxy Manager and run Disable Proxy
2. Set "EnableAutoDetect" to "1"
If you make changes to the ISP like the setting to compress the headers, you may need to reset "EnableAutoDetect" back to "1" again.

Very good info. This problem has annoyed me quite a bit because the wap versions of web pages really tend to suck. I'll give this fix a try later tonight.

These fixes didn't work for me.

The primary purpose of 'Disable Proxy' and 'Restore Proxy' is to flip the EnableAutoDetect value back and forth. (disable - 1, restore - 0).
AT&T is also in the habit of sending phones out with MEdiaNet and 'My ISP' both configured for wap.cingular. May need to change 'My ISP' to isp.cingular if you have a PDAConnect plan.

I have the PDA connect plan, and my 8525 came configured originally with isp.cingular as the default. It wouldn't connect. I changed it to MEdia.net and now it connects, but to wap.cingular.
I'm actually kind of guessing that the proxy settings are on the wrong track on this for me, because I get a message that the modem has disconnected. A proxy setting shouldn't disconnect the modem, it would just make pages unable to display. There's something on Cingular's side that doesn't like my phone, either my password is incorrect or they need to provision it properly.

The current disposition of the proxy (i.e., enabled/disabled) won't prevent your phone from making a data connection, nor is it required for wap.cingular or isp.cingular. Enabling it allows you to access AT&T's "internal" services over GPRS (and only GPRS, incidentally).
The ability to use isp.cingular is usually driven by the plan to which you're subscribed. I'm not able to use isp.cingular, for example, because I have a MEdiaNet plan. I think AT&T may have a long-term plan to do away with isp.cingular, but I'm not sure.

I talked to ATT today and they provisioned it so that I could connect to isp.cingular. This worked during the time that I was on the phone with them and then resumed not working after we ended the call.

heeellllllppppppppp
Hi,
I was seeing this thread and guess what guys ; the same problem is now international ....
I purchased an AT&T tilt but now am using it in India; My network provider supports GPRS and edge but im not able to connect ; The weather update on the HTC home i downloaded works fine and also the Mundu internet messenger that I installed ; but IE and no other program Including google maps work ...
The funny part is when i connect it to my laptop ; all these things work ; I tried the proxy turn off and on thing suggested on most sites but that didnt work .. Is there something specific in registry or something that im missing ??
I then tried the hard reset followed by soft reset this to remove all the bloatware but still no use .. im so stuck
kindly help
thanks
george

Multiple APN's?

I have enabled multiple APN's in my ROM (Vodafone UK SIM) by changing the registry entries:
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\RIL\OperatorContexts\23415] ;Vodafone UK
"GPRSContextNumber"=dword:3
"UMTSContextNumber"=dword:3
This allows me to have two simultaneous data connections (HSDPA/3G/GPRS). I noticed yesterday that when a voice call is made or received the 2nd data connection is disconnected and then reestablished when the call has ended. I changed each of the registry entries to 5 but the behaviour is still the same.
Is this a limitation of the ROM or the mobile contract? Is it possible to have two data connections as well as a voice call active at the same time? I use BlackBerry Connect and this keeps its data connection permanently active, if I browse the web or open another application that uses the Internet then the Vodafone GPRS connection gets established. I have now started to use Office Communicator Mobile 2007 R2 quite a lot and this uses the Internet data connection, however if a voice call is established then the OC 2007 R2 connection gets broken since the 2nd data connection is disconnected. This then screws up the presence status of OC 2007 R2.
Cheers
Andy

Solved....
I have now been moved over to Exchange ActiveSync and have removed BlackBerry Connect (thankfully..). However I am still having an issue
With BlackBerry Connect there was always a permanent data connection to the BlackBerry APN. Opening an Internet connection would cause a 2nd data connection to be made (to Vodafone APN). However if a voice call was made the Internet connection was dropped for the duration of the voice call. Now I have removed BlackBerry Connect I assumed that the data call would no longer disconnect as there is now only ever one active data connection. It seems I was wrong?
I have verified the GPRSContextNumber & UMTSContextNumber values in the registry for the Vodafone UK OperatorContexts are set to 3 (as they were previously) but the data connection is dropped when a voice call is made?
Solved it now after a bit more searching
There is a registry value that can be changed 'AllwaysOn' for each of the data connections that are configured on your device. On mine it was this:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\Connections\Vodafone GPRS]
"AlwaysOn"=dword:00000001
Some of the tweak utilities allow you to change this as well.
I assume on other devices the GUID will vary as well as the name you gave the connection settings - I used Vodafone GPRS.
Cheers
Andy

Andy,
Thanks for sharing your findings!
7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA is the default GUID for ConnMgr providers, will be the same on all devices. Connection names will vary indeed.
As regards your original problem, I think there could be several causes:
1. Concurrent PDP contexts limit in hardware, see
http://www.qualcomm.com/common/documents/white_papers/Multiple_PDP_Contexts_UMTS.pdf
2. ConnMgr is dropping insecure connection(s) when a connection to a secure network is required
I'm afraid your Internet APN may still go down when you place a phone call, however due to AlwaysOn it's reactivated instantly. Personally I never played with 2 contexts, but I've seen this behavior with AlwaysOn VPN connections.

stepw said:
Andy,
Thanks for sharing your findings!
7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA is the default GUID for ConnMgr providers, will be the same on all devices. Connection names will vary indeed.
As regards your original problem, I think there could be several causes:
1. Concurrent PDP contexts limit in hardware, see
http://www.qualcomm.com/common/documents/white_papers/Multiple_PDP_Contexts_UMTS.pdf
2. ConnMgr is dropping insecure connection(s) when a connection to a secure network is required
I'm afraid your Internet APN may still go down when you place a phone call, however due to AlwaysOn it's reactivated instantly. Personally I never played with 2 contexts, but I've seen this behavior with AlwaysOn VPN connections.
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What about the value under \HKLM\Software\OEM\RIL\SAPOperatorList? Can this be trusted to be my providers OperatorContext number(s)?
Rob
Rob

stepw said:
Andy,
Thanks for sharing your findings!
7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA is the default GUID for ConnMgr providers, will be the same on all devices. Connection names will vary indeed.
As regards your original problem, I think there could be several causes:
1. Concurrent PDP contexts limit in hardware, see
http://www.qualcomm.com/common/documents/white_papers/Multiple_PDP_Contexts_UMTS.pdf
2. ConnMgr is dropping insecure connection(s) when a connection to a secure network is required
I'm afraid your Internet APN may still go down when you place a phone call, however due to AlwaysOn it's reactivated instantly. Personally I never played with 2 contexts, but I've seen this behavior with AlwaysOn VPN connections.
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As I said it is now fixed as I only ever have a single APN connection as I have moved over to Exchange ActiveSync and have also changed the 'AllwaysOn' registry value for the default GPRS connection.
Andy

[Q] Losing Proxy Server on Telstra APN Settings

All,
I recently ugraded to the HD2 and despite some early Factory resets, I've managed to keep the standard ROM and still operate in a reliable fashion.
My issue is with the default Telstra APNs and the fact that the standard one are locked from even being able to view the settings.
At some random period after a Factory reset, the Network stops connecting to the Telstra Account and Data usage pages.
I recreated manual networks based on the tips in the thread:
HD2 Telstra ROM Data for non Telstra ROM users
and again the sites were accessible for a period and then again they stop working. I rechecked the HTTP Proxy setting in my manually created APN and foudn the HTTP server field was empty. I re-added the 10.1.1.181:80 and the Testra sites work again.
Can any one confirm if Activesync or WinPC Network connection can somehow override the Proxy settings or remove them (My Activesync PC usually connects via LAN proxy in 10.X.X.X range) as I believe that is what's happening to my default Telstra.internet APN but I can't get in to check it. I don't want to have to re-enter the proxy every few days.
Any guidelines for how to prevent Activesync screwing with Mobile connections?
Great resource you are all providing here. Thanks in advance.

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I have the same problem on Android and I'm not using active sync,
though it doesn't happen on every ROM I've tried, so it may be ROM related.
After you create /change an APN, press the windows key and save it,
Then reboot your phone. Seems to have solved my problem so far.
Hope this helps someone.
Cheers.