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Will TomTom Navigator 5.x work with the Universal?

Hi, I'm hoping to get the new Windows Mobile 5 device dubbed the HTC Universal, AKA o2 xda Exec.
TomTom tell me TomTom Navigator 5 is NOT compatible with it.
www.mobilefun.co.uk state that it is compatible.
Some people on forums say they have 5.1 working with the device.
Other people state the Bluetooth won't lock in.
Does anyone here know the truth?

Yes it will work
It works. I use TT 5.1 about every day (via a bluetooth receiver). Here's the instructions to install the program.
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=28171&highlight=
Go about half way down.
To install your BT GPS receiver. First pair the device. Then add a new COM Port under the Bluetooth settings. You want to add an OUTGOING port. I usually specify it as COM0. Then start up TT5, go into GPS configuration, selct "Other BT Receiver", then select COM0 from the menu. TOMTOM will automatically start up BT (it doesn't have to on before you launch the program), find the already paired receiver and start communicating with (give it some time though. the whole process takes about 30 seconds to a minute).
Hope this helps.

Cool, thanks!
And finally... I assume the Universal can support 2 simultaneous bluetooth connections? E.g. can I use TomTom with the bluetooth GPS at the same time as speaking on a bluetooth car kit?

To keep things simple
Tomtom 5.0 does NOT work with the Universal. Tomtom 5.1 Does. Hpoe this helps

Received my T-Mobile UK MDA PRO today. I can confirm that TomTom 5.1 DOES work great on it with any bluetooth GPS device, although it was a few hours before I stumbled upon a thread in this forum which had instructions on how to get it working

jasjar works fine with tt5.1 and can connect at same time with gps,headset and many bluetooth devices

Re: To keep things simple
mikeycollins13 said:
Tomtom 5.0 does NOT work with the Universal. Tomtom 5.1 Does. Hpoe this helps
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Yes it does. I have 5.0 running on my JASJAR now. Haven't upgraded to 5.1 yet in case it breaks something.

just replace the tomtom navigator.exe with the 5.1 version, all done.

How on earth did you manage to get TT5.0 to work?
I have tried everything (all the above tricka and then some) and cannot get the right com port to show up from within Tomtom? Can you tell me step by step?

How on earth did you manage to get TT5.0 to work?
I have tried everything (all the above tricka and then some) and cannot get the right com port to show up from within Tomtom? Can you tell me step by step?

Re: How on earth did you manage to get TT5.0 to work?
mikeycollins13 said:
I have tried everything (all the above tricka and then some) and cannot get the right com port to show up from within Tomtom? Can you tell me step by step?
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It does work, if you follow the guide in this thread exactly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28386
However, I had to use COM4 instead of COM0.
I also had a problem where I connected everything to the right COM port, could see TomTom accessing the GPS device by the LEDs, but still "no GPS device found!" - it seems TomTom likes your GPS device better if it's actually locked onto a signal (so go outside!), give all this a try

...talking of TTN5....
Has anyone had any success getting TT working with the Wired GPS mouse? Is there a way to connect it to the Exec...?(mini USB to serial connector?)
If the 2 can be physically connected, does the software see it/connect up properly?
TIA
cheers
Paul

FYI, I emailed TOMTOM about the installer crashing, and guess what they said. "TOMTOM 5 is not supported on the IMATE JasJar."
What a load of cobblers. It works perfectly well if you install it using the cab files. TOMTOM support is the biggest load of s**t I have ever come across.

JJ works fine with the following:
1) Navigon MN 5
2) TT 5.1
3) OnCourse Navigator
4) iGuidance
These have been tried and tested.

Just cause it's not supported it doesn't mean they don't think it'll work. it just means that they won't help you fix it if it goes wrong becuase they have not tested on that platform. always worth a try regardless of what the vendor or devlopers say!

Another MDA Pro with TT5
I just got an MDA Pro a couple of weeks ago, and being the fool I am, bought a copy of Tom Tom 5 from Fleabay (doh!).
On receipt, I could not get the software to load from my PC, and when trying to copy over the cab files manually, the ttn.cab file will not load on the PDA. On closer inspection, this has got something to do with 'Bekonl' so appers I have wasted some money on cracked software that does not work.
Is this right? Or if I can obtain an alternative ttn.cab file, will it load, if so will it be locked? I was just looking for a reasonable low priced SatNav solution - but this is proving to be harder than I thought!

For those of you coming from a WM2003 device you can simply install TomTom on a memory card on that. Take the memory card out and put in Universal. It works. That's it.

I am not unfortunately. I am coming from a Mk1 paper diary, a £3.99 map from the petrol station, and a bullet proof Nokia 6310i!
All help gratefully received though.

Tuscan said:
I am not unfortunately. I am coming from a Mk1 paper diary, a £3.99 map from the petrol station, and a bullet proof Nokia 6310i!
All help gratefully received though.
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If the ttn cab fails to install try this;
uninstall all tomtom entries from remove programs.
Remove sd card from device
install gps.cab
soft reset (this is the important bit)
install ttn.cab

JJ
JJ works fine with Oziexplorer, Tomtom5x
:wink:

TomTom 5.21 ON xda EXECTIVE

have been struggling to load tomtom on my XDA Ex. On the occasions it has run, there was no link for GPS receiver and on occassions was getting a fizzy image. Any help out there from someone who has managed to load this

tomtom 5.21 is not for PDA, but for smartphone or WM2005.
you need to install tomtom NAVIGATOR 5.10

TOMTOM 5.21 OR NAVIGATOR FOR THE XDA EXECUTIVE?
fraant said:
tomtom 5.21 is not for PDA, but for smartphone or WM2005.
you need to install tomtom NAVIGATOR 5.10
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Thanks Fraant but I have seen other contributors saying they are running Tom 5.21 which they say is an upgraded for the XDA EXECUTIVE RUNNING windows mobile 5. Am knew to this and am getting confused now

fraant said:
tomtom 5.21 is not for PDA, but for smartphone or WM2005.
you need to install tomtom NAVIGATOR 5.10
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I'm running version 5.21 (5430) for PocketPC with GPS driver v1.20 on an XDAIIi.

I loaded tt5.21 on my fathers exec last night, I am assumiing you are using a BT gps receiver? If so then make sure you pair the gps BEFORE loading on tt5.21, then go to comms manager and select gps device in bt settings, then set it to outgoing and assign com 0 to it. then start up tt5.21 and select other bt gps, then select com 0. that is how I got it to work. Under ver 5 it wold not do anything at all, even though either version works fine on my 2i !!!! But 5.21 works just fine on the exec.

Tomtom Now Working
Thanks guys for your contributions. I now have Tomtom Version 5.21 on my XDA Exec.
This has been after so many hours of frustration and browsing the web to find the solution after I got the phone.
I have installed a cracked version which worked after trying so many cracked version which I had found on the net.
I now believe that some of the cracked ones have got some files corrupt or misssing because I dont see why they were not working.
Now I love my phone.
My qustion is with this cracked version WOULD I be able to access TomTom WHETHER AND TRAFFIC ? OR THIS IS A NO GO AREA?
Would the TomTom website know that mine is not a legit copy? :lol:

@ two4one
The cracked versions are recognised as being cracked and don't work with updates etc....
To avoid hastles with this site lets not mention warez, I'm not squeaky clean myself, but it can cause problems for the site developers and so on.
Glad you're happy with it though.

TomTom Navigator V5.210
I Too am running TTN Version 5.210 on an XDA IIi :lol:

TomTom 6.02 Freeze with trinity..

I've installed tha last ship ROM from DOPODAsia and sometimes my TomTom 6.02 will not respond to the touchscreen. I've to minimize it and then re-open in full screen and it will return to work.
mmmm... this rom is not very perfect IMHO

Tomtom 6.030
Hello
I have the same probleme with tomtom 6.030 and 6.010, 6.020 and 6.100
Perhaps htc rom will be corrige this probleme.
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on my side I have also tomtom 6
I have also a freeze but only during few seconds and only at the start of tomtom (during the 1st minute of usage of tomtom)
But for the moment I use tomtom without GPS ... just waiting for a new ROM

I also experienced these freezes with TomTom 6 and the latest official dopod image. So I downgraded to the latest test version which doesn't have this problem. Have quick fixes and both 6.02 and 6.03 are working fine. The only difference i noticed after installing 6.03 is that TomTom added a new GPS device called "built in gps receiver" which is now automatically selected. No probs here

Config u are using longfellow
longfellow said:
I also experienced these freezes with TomTom 6 and the latest official dopod image. So I downgraded to the latest test version which doesn't have this problem. Have quick fixes and both 6.02 and 6.03 are working fine. The only difference i noticed after installing 6.03 is that TomTom added a new GPS device called "built in gps receiver" which is now automatically selected. No probs here
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longfellow,
i'm using the final dopod rom version and i have the same problems. In the first test rom dopod and in the second i think, but not quite sure, the freezing problem apperead in those two roms... Please tell us:
1) w rom are u using ? w test rom ?
2) did u installed tomtom on the pda memory or in tha storage card ?
3) what are com are you using ?
4) did you enable the gps icon on settings through registry ?
5) if so, what GPS program port are you using in gps icon in settings ?
6) w GPS Hardware port are u using and w baud rate ?
7) do you have selected in access Manage GPS automatically ?
sorry for those questions but i'm desperate...
thanks in advance,
Aprt

I have 6.02 and it seems to work just fine.

aprt said:
longfellow,
i'm using the final dopod rom version and i have the same problems. In the first test rom dopod and in the second i think, but not quite sure, the freezing problem apperead in those two roms... Please tell us:
1) w rom are u using ? w test rom ?
2) did u installed tomtom on the pda memory or in tha storage card ?
3) what are com are you using ?
4) did you enable the gps icon on settings through registry ?
5) if so, what GPS program port are you using in gps icon in settings ?
6) w GPS Hardware port are u using and w baud rate ?
7) do you have selected in access Manage GPS automatically ?
sorry for those questions but i'm desperate...
thanks in advance,
Aprt
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Hello, initially had the latest test version of Dopod installed with TomTom 6.02 as GPS receiver I had chosen "other bluetooth receiver" and I used com 9 for this device in the settings ( just tapped with stylus on the black line in the gps settings, secon option) first fix took appr 6 min. Everthing went fine no freezes etc. I didnot have the gps reg hack nor did I have the gps icon in my settings. Everything went ok. After that I installed the official rom on monday just after its release. Installed the same TT6.02 same config. Then I became freezes too. So I installed 6.03 after that (on orig rom) with the settings for built in GPS receiver which is chosen automatically on Trinity btw. Same problems.
Which made me decide to go back to latest test rom, here i have now running TT6.03 which automatically puts the built in GPS receiver on COM9 & GPD1 (saw that after I performed the reg hack to get the GPS icon in my settings/access). Mostly i have the initial fix within 1 min! And absolutely NO freezes or slowing down in TT which I suffered with the official rom. So I suspect this official rom of some bugs because all other conditions in which i installed were the same.
Hope this will help. Btw I have a HTC P3600.
I have, on all occasions in which you can choose, installed TomTom6 on 1 GB minisdcard, nothing in PDA mem! Noticed that TT6.03 autom sets baudrate at 115200, but you can only see that after you perform the reg hack.
Just checked my rom that I use now, and see that it is not the latest version but it is version RUU_Trinity_DOPODASIA_WWE_1.23.707.2_6275_1.29.00.11_108_Test.exe.

Today i think i found out why my tom tom 6.030 sometimes hangs (if i quit and reenter tt everything works fine again).
So today I reinstalled my device at the office and also tomtom...
Came home from work and tt did not block any more...
Happy i transferred the radars to my device...
This evening i tested once again and it blocked again....
deleted my radars and warnings and it didn't block any more...
anyone who has the "application hanginging" problem: have u installed the radars...?
will do more testing the next days?

wishmaster82 said:
I've installed tha last ship ROM from DOPODAsia and sometimes my TomTom 6.02 will not respond to the touchscreen. I've to minimize it and then re-open in full screen and it will return to work.
mmmm... this rom is not very perfect IMHO
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You may tried another memory card, cos i had the same problem with another device before ( also using tomtom 6, ) , then i just use another memory card, it work..

so after more tests I can definitely say that when I enable the poi and the warnings my Tomtom blocks....
if I disable them everything works fine....
I also tried with another minisdcard and another map...
the only thing I'm thinking of is that the radar poi are in some way corrupt?

just to throw another theory into the mix.....
I've been using tt6.01 on the original HTC wwe rom and now the lastest gps enabled rom, never had a lockup. Was just using the UK map.
Yesterday installed the complete western europe map, now get lockups when using this map. Switch back to UK and it's fine again.

I have also this problem. I press the green button, phone opens, i close it with my stylus.
After that TOM² opens, en it all works fine.

i've noticed the same like DREWY.
the last weeks i used only my germany-map. tomtom freezes only one time.
now i updated my tomtom an installed the germany-swiss-austria map.
now tomtom locks up very often.
my theory:
the maps are to big, an the trinity/tomtom can not handle this big maps.

More info about this "freezing" problem...
I've updated my spanish Trinity with the new/cooked english ROM... WITHOUT any problem working with TomTom 6.03 (radars activated, etc) using external (Bluetooth) GPS.
Working with the internal GPS... and with two miniSD different... a LOT of problems. It's impossible to run properly for more than 10 minutes. Not any problem using OZI, for example with any GPS (Bluetooth or the Internal one).
Somebody has tested it TomTom+internal GPS working with the french ROM (Orange one)?

Hello,
I use french Orange ROM on SPV M700 with internal GPS + TT6.100, the whole works fine since one month.
I use Western Europe map with traffic info activated.

Thank you Rahan for the info
I've just test my "New" french Trinity and NOW I don't have any problem with TomTom and the internal GPS
Probably, there was an instalation problem in my previous "english" Trinity. I'm going to restart from the beginning converting my "French" P3600 to an "english" one
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The problem is the cooked ROM..because after installing it... TomTom DOESN'T WORK properly It works with Bluetooth GPS and with the Orange/french ROM (internal and external GPS)...but with this ROM (and with the GPS fix, etc)... NOT

GPS problem on HD (no lag no tomtom problem)

Hi guys
i Have a problem with the internal GPS on my blackStone i'm try different gps program but no one work, for example when i start Tomtom don't find the gps device, i have try to change a configuration on windows mobile i have change the com port and the baud rate but nothing, I'm try also with another program, GPS test but nothig and the same result with gmeter all the program don't find the internal gps.
Seem that the gps process don't run but the strange is that when i start for the first time tomtom run properly but after nothing more
Someone know how fix this problem i don't want to do a Hard Reset
please help me
PS. sorry for my english
ROM 1.13.401.0 ITA (TIM brand)
Radio 1.09.25.14

YOU HAVE TO INSTALL TOMTOM 7 - ALL WORKS IMMTLY
OTHERWISE WITH THE OLDER VERSIONS yOU HAVE TO ACTIVATE COM PORT 7 TO MAKE IT WORK
THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS THE LOW SENSITIVITY OF THE BIULT IN RECEIVER. IT WORKS BUT CANNOT COMPARE TO AN EXTERNAL ONE

Principe010 said:
Hi guys
i Have a problem with the internal GPS on my blackStone i'm try different gps program but no one work, for example when i start Tomtom don't find the gps device, i have try to change a configuration on windows mobile i have change the com port and the baud rate but nothing, I'm try also with another program, GPS test but nothig and the same result with gmeter all the program don't find the internal gps.
Seem that the gps process don't run but the strange is that when i start for the first time tomtom run properly but after nothing more
Someone know how fix this problem i don't want to do a Hard Reset
please help me
PS. sorry for my english
ROM 1.13.401.0 ITA (TIM brand)
Radio 1.09.25.14
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I aslo have this problem in my Mapking 2007.
I need set the COM to 9 /9600, and in Mapking 2007, I need select the right COM (Can't use the "Auto"), and then work

[Q] hw6915: How to save original ROM before flashing new? Wanna re-activate GPS ..

Hi everybody,
I am going to switch my HP ipaq hw6915 to WM 6.1, using the “Russian" ROM-Update discussed here quite intensively. Had been reading and searching first but nowehere found a hint on how to save/backup my original ROM first. Just to have an opportunity to roll-back
Can anybody give me a brief hint?
Thanks!
The reason for trying to upgrade my hw6915 to WM 6.1 is simply because I like and use the GPS still a lot, its still a perfect travel-companion!
I found out that on the current ROM with WM 5 only TomTom Navigator 6 is working . But all maps for that are outdated.
Installing Navigator 7 with latest maps works fine – but the Navigator software does receive GPS signal – once in a while (1 signal about every 30 seconds – just enough to locate the current position but not enough to really navigate).
Exactly the same thing when I install Sygic (which I love much more than Tom Tom). All works fine but again just about 1 signal about every 30 seconds.
GPS Proxy etc. does not solve the problem – so I will give it a try with WM 6.1.
If anybody however found out how to get Navi software (Tom Tom, Sygic or whatever) with not-too--old maps working with the original WM 5 on the hw 6015 – I´d be outstanding thankful to learn!

have you tried Garmin?

Have not tried Garmin bt I am using TT and Sygic in the car resp. on other mobiles so I did not want to deal with a 3rd Navi software.
Would be happy if somebody can give me a hint on how to backup my current (original) ROM before I try to flash it with Alpha 1 discussed in the other thread here.