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Program Storage

I have always used the main storage for loading programs/applications, but recently I have been adding more applications as I become more affluent with using my PPC Phone.
I did load the Scary Bear Check Notifications in the Extended ROM, but the device won't let me load any other programs there, so I suppose I'm out of room.
I have read that I can store programs on the storage card. I have tried this a while ago and my device either would not let me or when the program was loaded there I could not run it.
How do you successfully install programs on the SD storage card? Is there a limit to application type or other factors that will only allow some programs to work there? Can I copy and paste programs to my storage card that are already installed?
Any tips on storage card application use would be appreciated.

I have dove deeper into this issue, and I see where I was having some difficulty. I'm now able to install programs to the storage card. Some programs, however, still do not want to be installed there. I have not tried moving programs, but felt it was safer to delete on the main memory and then install on the card.
Do products like Pocket Mechanic provide better or mor complete use of storage cards?

memory on the Wizrd (Storage / Program)

Hey
My phone is saying I have 2.79MB of storage left but 16.51MB of Program space. Yet it wont let me install any new programs because of a lack of space! :-( Anyway to get this to work?

I would suggest you do some searches on memory and Windows Mobile 5 to learn more about how the different kinds of memory are used.
In a nutshell--storage space (or a memory card) is where you install programs and is analogous to a desktop computers hard drive. Program memory is the equivalent of the RAM in a desktop computer and is used by programs as they are running. You cannot use the program memory for installation of programs.
Have you purchased a mini-SD card for use with your Wizard? If you have a memory card inserted when you install software, you will be given the option of installing to the memory card. (Don't install things like Today screen add-ins and software that will need to run at startup on memory cards.)
Good luck.
Geoffrey

Ah right I see. For some reason its not allowing me to install tomtom on my memory card, Ill just have to swap things about I think.
Thanks for your help

Installing applications on SD card instead of main memory

Everytime I install new program to HD2 it asks me if I want to install into main memory or SD card. My PC windows experience says that it is advisable to install programs to main drive (C: usually). Does the same logic apply to WM devices? Or is it safe to install apps into SD card (which would leave more space on actual device)

It's really up to you where you install them. The only things to bear in mind are that the internal storage cannot be expanded, and you can remove the storage card.
The way I do this is to install anything that I think I'll really want to always have at hand on the device (essential apps like coreplayer, nitrogen etc..) That way, if I remove the storage card then my device still has my most favoured apps on it. Anything that I'm not too fussed about (games in my case) goes on the storage card.
It's your call completely, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with installing things on the storage card. In fact, I'd recommend doing it when you're installing non-essential apps so that you save internal storage for things that you don't have a choice with (MarketPlace apps, for example, or tweaks and mods).
Hope this helps mate.

ok, thanks for detailed reply. I will try to install apps to SD card, if that option becomes available during installation process. I am not switching SD cards, so it should be fine then.

one more question that is related to the first one... If I install application on SD card, then if I take the memory card out, put new ROM into phone and insert SD card back. Will applications run as before installing new ROM? Are all program files saved to SD card when installing or does it do some registry entries or save some files onto maine phone memory???

In my old JasJam I found that programs loaded faster when stored on the device storage as opposed to the SD card.
Is this the same on the HD2?

If you upgrade ROM then you will need to do a backup first then restore afterwards otherwise you will lose everything including the links to the programs on the SD Card (although the programs will still be there).
I use SPB backup to do this. It works well. I used it yesterday after I upgraded my O2 V1.43 ROM to HTC 1.66. The restore worked great
All Micro D cards aren't the same I paid a bit more and got a Class 6(fastest) 16GB card. Class 2 is the slowest.
I hope this helps?

Things to remember
SD card usage eats battery.
SD card usage is slower than phone mem.
SD card usage can cause conflicts and freezes.
SD card usage creates app associations that really should not be carried over to new ROM flashes.
Installation to phone mem gives smoother and more stable operation of phone.
You have plenty of on phone storage space so why not use it?

Links to apps gone
i have loads of applications on my SD card for my HD2 but when i reset it i lost all the links to them so now the only way to get to them is to go to the file explorer but i dont have any icons anywhere else on my phone, any suggestions?

Either reinstall the apps, or simply browse to the executables, copy, and paste as shortcut in \windows\start menu.

Cab HELP

Does installing a .cab file onto my phone take up RAM? i am kind of afraid if i install programs to my SD card because i think it will slow down my phone, can someone please tell me if this is possible? And does it matter how many programs i install because already i plan to install around 30.

Installing any cab to the internel memory will take up some of your internal memory
If possible install to memory card
Re programs as long as you do not want to run them all at the same time should not be a problem

colinm said:
Installing any cab to the internel memory will take up some of your internal memory
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but this does not mean it will use space in your ram. Installing progs has no effect on ram, only rom space or sd card space. Progs ONLY use RAM when they are actively running.

[Q] newbie question - ram vs sd card

Hi There .. actually I am just waiting for my GT2 .. but already I am wondering how the internal 16GB work together with a potential SD.
I do assume internal and SD will mount as drives on my windows pc. fine.
But what may I expect when I use titanium backup to free memory and shift some apps to sd .. will they really appear on sd .. or will they be on internal memory? Any way i can influence this?
Where will all the apps store their temp stuff?
I really would like to figure out which mem is best for what before I start-off.
Any tipp or pointer is appreciated.

shift you less used apps to sd, as this storage medium runs slower than the internal storage. You want your more frequently used apps to be able to load faster. This is the reason for moving apps to sd

Darunion said:
shift you less used apps to sd, as this storage medium runs slower than the internal storage. You want your more frequently used apps to be able to load faster. This is the reason for moving apps to sd
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What I understand from your reply is that internal 16GB memory is faster than SD. OK .. but can I decide to put apps on my internal memory (the 16 GB paritition .. I don't mean RAM) rather than put them on SD? I mean so that the apps are still installed and work .. just like with app2sd?