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I can upgrade for £399 (inc vat). Told them "no way, I'll go to O2 thanks". They dropped the price instantly to £250 and then to £200 (for an 18 month contract). They'll have a date for me maybe by the end of the week.
For reference and comparison, I'm about 2 months past the end of my 12 month contract of £15+VAT/month for 100mb and expensive voice calls, normal spend is around £25-£30 inc vat.
I'll wait to see what O2's new data tariffs are like, but if T-mobile can maybe do something to decrease my voice call costs then I think I'll go for it
What tarif is that?
All I found in the T-mobile lists is a 100mb a month 3g datacard tarif, but it was £25 a month, voice at 25p a minute.
£15 a month for 100meg is great!!!
I pay 25p a minute on payg for voice anyway, so id love this tarif, but not sure if yours is similar? where did you see it?
Oh, and forget o2 for data. They suck. They are pushing the blackberry thing, and its like £15 a month for 5meg. Extra data bundles cost a fortune and ive never had a consistant answer on what is included, and what does what, if its full internet access or wap or whatever.
When is the universal due out with our uk carriers?End of the month?
I'm on the old version of that tariff - T Mobile Communication Center (sic) GPRS card at £15+VAT for 100mb and then 50ppm for voice. I bought from http://www.directmobilephones.com
On the downside, if you go over your 100mb, they sting you at £7.50/mb. Ouch.
On the other hand, I'm sure they have billing problems and I reckon I transfer around 40mb/month, not the 25mb on my bill. Or maybe Onspeed is doing a greater job than I thought 8)
O2 do some OK data tariffs - Data 36 at £14.50 and data 512 at £40 (both + VAT iirc) seem like fairly good deals to me, particularly as voice calls are only 25p (inc vat) on that deal.
ps - if anyone wants to try onspeed, please pm me for an affiliate code.
jay,
1st October: T Mobile - source - recent, "off the record" T mobile manager
3rd October: O2 - source - recent, on the record O2
28th October: Vodafone - source - not too recent, on the record vodafone manager
Uknown probably towards the end of October: Orange - source, nothing more than sales droids
Probably never: Three - source, wild speculation :wink:
Cheers for that.If it were to come out on three you'd probably get it for a fiver with free mb forever!Shame everyone else is such a rip off!
If it were to come out on THREE youd be wasting your time as they still dont offer a data service yet!
Correct me if im wrong, but youd want proper internet on your Universal not just the crappy THREE walled garden filled with Manure from THREE.
At risk of straying off topic, Three now offer proper internet access for £45 inc vat (for 512mb iirc). So, based on my current usage of 40ish mb and 30 minutes:
T mobile, 100mb, 30 minutes peak all networks
£30 per month x 12 = £360 + £250 for the handset = £610
O2, using say 40mb + 30 minutes
£27 x 12 + £229 for the handset = £553
I could take out a new contract with T mobile, based on http://www.scancom.co.uk/ on ufix with
ufix 15
£15 x 12 + £305 = £485
My mistake on the THREE data, I didnt know they finally had it. Its a bit much for me though!
a 256meg for £20 would do me. Even 128meg for £10 now thats what we want!
Do you know if the £2.50 for 5meg is restricted at all? it seems strange, but id like to try that first before plonking down £45 quid a month
The "wireless web" £2.50 option does not give full http access - but it does cover a lot of popular websites: most of the bbc, ebay.com (but not .co.uk :lol: ) and quite a few others. But
1) 5mb is nothing :?
2) Once you've used it, you can't have anymore until next month, not even for more money
3) Erm, can't VPN on it
just a question ..
I'm french and living currently in uk - was a student and get a nice IT job. So from my pay as you go card I though getting THE exec or whatever name will the cheaper give to it
-> I really think to use VOIP over GPRS ..
Is skype usable with it ?
What the cost such solution ? (only the data on the carrier)
Could the carrier block or put on the contract a restriction on the VOIP ? (From what I get from my friends in France Orange(FR) and some other do)
Same question for IM (aim/msn/icq/jabber) VS SMS
was looking for some comparison on the web to get roughly an idea but didn't get something serious enough.
Q> Is skype usable with it ?
A> No, not the voice part anyway. IM, yes.
Q>What the cost such solution ? (only the data on the carrier) depends on network, but for non-bundle gprs its from £2 per meg to £8 per meg
Q> Could the carrier block or put on the contract a restriction on the VOIP ?
A> Yes, they do block things randomly and not tell you.
Q> Same question for IM (aim/msn/icq/jabber) VS SMS
A> O2 Pay as you go DOES NOT allow anything other than wap and http, all IM and email is blocked. I do not know about other carriers, but ive heard tmobile blocks email too.
Forget Pay as you go for Data, its expensive and slow gprs. You want to use a 3G link to make the most of the universal, so get a vodafone/orange/tmobile datacard tarif with bundled data. I think T-mobile let you make calls at 25p a minute on top of the data bundle, dont know about voice on the others though.
Hope this helps.
o2 isnt 2 bad for gprs i got 50mb for 4 pounds uk and 750 mintes and 150 txt for 25 pounds uk on o2 uk but that was a sim only deal as was going to go for vodaphone quite good really hope they can o somthing for the exec when it comes out
about the IM, I got a Jabber account on a server that get https...
For those who don't know jabber is an open source IM solution and it's not centralised (understand you can build your own server at home and communicate with all the other jabber server in the world - a bit like the mail) The beauty of jabber is the gateways I got AIM/ICQ/YAHOO/IRC/MSN gateway to be able to speak with other protocoles..
So .. I'll chat
it's quite a shame that they block randomly ports or whatever without telling you. I'll explicity ask them and list the price.
please do ask them too; normally 3g is far enough for skype (skype needs 3-5kbps)
Just spoken to T Mobile again - the chap on the end of the phone told me the same £200 and I said "well, I can get an XDA Exec for that on a much better tariff". So they halved it to £100 or free if I go for an 18 month contract. Bargain
That's a £15 + VAT/month tariff, typical spend under £30. They'll call me back as soon as they have a date. I'm hoping that date will be 1st October :wink:
"please do ask them too; normally 3g is far enough for skype (skype needs 3-5kbps)"
Id love to hear from anyone who has skype VOICE working on a 3g connection. As far as im aware the latency/ping time etc kill voice over 3g. The total data speed isnt really the issue, its the terrible network!
Id love for it to work, but im pretty sure its IM only and no voice.
Please correct me if you have actual evidence to the contrary
come on post what prices you've got it for and tarrif!
user, msuk wrote:
I managed to get the vario 2 free of charge on a relex35 web and walk package with 10 discount per month
Msuk
So thats £32.50 per month 12 month contract? £390 for the year contract total!
ive phoned t-mob and they aint having none off that deal as if i got that via there website it would total £580 for the year!
anyone got any ideas on getting the best deal?
cheers
I paid £90 for my Vario II on Relax 30 Plus a free 1Gb micro sd.
Total £450
Back in April Dial-a-Phone did me a Wizard dressed as a T-Mobile MDA Vario for nothing up front and £35 per month on an 18 month contract labelled "Flext". That gets £185 worth of voice and SMS in any combination. It came bundled with CoPilot Sat Nav and a BlueTooth GPS kit. I took the option of an extra £7 per month for unlimited GPRS data, and for taking that option I qualified for a 20% discount.
It's all very confusing, but I end up with a Wizard, full sat nav, more call time and SMS credits than I'll ever use, no charge for data all day, and so far my monthly bills have all been slightly under £35.
£35 x 18 months runs out at £630, but I get sat nav bundled in.
Just did one of T-Mobiles standard ones from their site, no haggling
Paid £79.99 for the phone on their Flext 25 inc. Web'n'Walk with £7.50 off for the first 3 months (£20pm for 3 months and £27.50 after that).
Great tariff, £60 to spend on anything ie. calls, MMS or SMS and free web surfing (within reason )
MUCH better than any tariffs I could find through either Vodafone or Orange.
upgrade
I am upgrading from mda3. Paying 89pounds for device. tweaked contract to be walk n web pro, flext 20 (can use as modem) and I pay 25.50 per Month.
should get it any day
Tulaine said:
Back in April Dial-a-Phone did me a Wizard dressed as a T-Mobile MDA Vario for nothing up front and £35 per month on an 18 month contract labelled "Flext". That gets £185 worth of voice and SMS in any combination. It came bundled with CoPilot Sat Nav and a BlueTooth GPS kit. I took the option of an extra £7 per month for unlimited GPRS data, and for taking that option I qualified for a 20% discount.
It's all very confusing, but I end up with a Wizard, full sat nav, more call time and SMS credits than I'll ever use, no charge for data all day, and so far my monthly bills have all been slightly under £35.
£35 x 18 months runs out at £630, but I get sat nav bundled in.
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err this is the tytn section? a different phone for the deal your on about?
Nicky said:
Just did one of T-Mobiles standard ones from their site, no haggling
Paid £79.99 for the phone on their Flext 25 inc. Web'n'Walk with £7.50 off for the first 3 months (£20pm for 3 months and £27.50 after that).
Great tariff, £60 to spend on anything ie. calls, MMS or SMS and free web surfing (within reason )
MUCH better than any tariffs I could find through either Vodafone or Orange.
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err thats a deal straight from them ordering via there web page, im on about phoning them up direct and getting a better deal, which you would probably have got if you phoned them.
I want to know what deals people have got for the vario 2, the section ive posted this in!? for t-mobile by phoning them up, not just buying off the website..
Oops! Sorry!
I saw Vario in the first post and completely disregarded the forum title. I thought the question was about the MDA Vario, and I was quite please with mine.
I must pay more attention in future.
no worrys im quite pleased with mine, apart from net speed, camera and processor speed, so number 2 for me it is
T-Mobile. Flext 25 18 month contract (effective £60 worth of usage a month), Web 'n Walk. Phone: £65. Tariff: £20 (£27.50 including WnW).
So, I know that it's an 18 month contract, but just to compare against the old tariff I was on (see below) the total for the year: £395. First half of next year is only £165 compared to £180 (what my O2 tariff would've cost me), so I'm still happy. I think I'll want to stick with this phone longer than my Alpine too, so the 18 months until a new phone doesn't bother me too much.
What was I on before the switch to T-Mobile? For my O2 200 (12 month) contract and my Alpine last year, I paid £460 (£100 for handset and £30/mo), and for that I got a LOT less than what I have now.
fil said:
no worrys im quite pleased with mine, apart from net speed, camera and processor speed, so number 2 for me it is
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You say that, but the net speed (once I rang up and asked them to enable HSDPA on my account) is pretty darn good compared to your regular GPRS, and I'm in a borderline 3G reception area. The camera quality is MILES ahead of my old Alpine, I just took some photos quickly in a variety of situations (low-light, moving, daylight) and they all came out great. Even look good when zoomed 3x. The macro slider notch to adjust the focal length is also pretty funky, and does work. Switchable flash light is a perfect addition which I really missed on my Alpine.
The processor might be clocked slower than some of the older HTC devices, but blow-for-blow it's quicker at processing instructions so performance-wise they actually gain a little ground. My TyTn's Samsung 2442A @ 400MHz beats my Alpine's 520MHz Intel PXA272 by miles, it leaves it standing even in things like plain old filesystem navigation in File Explorer or skipping round the preferences (or using the web).
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fil said:
no worrys im quite pleased with mine, apart from net speed, camera and processor speed, so number 2 for me it is
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You say that, but the net speed (once I rang up and asked them to enable HSDPA on my account) is pretty darn good compared to your regular GPRS, and I'm in a borderline 3G reception area. The camera quality is MILES ahead of my old Alpine, I just took some photos quickly in a variety of situations (low-light, moving, daylight) and they all came out great. Even look good when zoomed 3x. The macro slider notch to adjust the focal length is also pretty funky, and does work. Switchable flash light is a perfect addition which I really missed on my Alpine.
The processor might be clocked slower than some of the older HTC devices, but blow-for-blow it's quicker at processing instructions so performance-wise they actually gain a little ground. My TyTn's Samsung 2442A @ 400MHz beats my Alpine's 520MHz Intel PXA272 by miles, it leaves it standing even in things like plain old filesystem navigation in File Explorer or skipping round the preferences (or using the web).
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my reply was for the vario 1 and what needs improving, hence im looking for a vario 2 deal, sorry if ive confused everyone! doh!
I sold my exec on ebay and bought the vario II for a supplement of about 40 quid, brand new and with a receipt. I'm on Flext 35 which I took out in april, and got 25percent off for life so I'm paying 32pounds a month for 180 quid credit and unlimited internet.
If you have a Pro unlock it and trade it in now while its still worth good money! I'm absolutely elated with the Vario II and so glad I switched. I'm in an average 3g area, yet I'm hitting 1.2-1.3 mbps regularly - its actually faster than my NTL broadband when I use it as a modem!
Browsing on the device itself is quick, its much more pocketable and even the speaker is louder!
Do what you can to get this handset cos its pretty special!
Do you think we could be called smitten with this device?
I just can't believe I can get 1 meg broadband on a phone- and it actually works! Crazy.
Wish I hadn't taken out that NTL contract of mine now....what a waste of money!
Hi,
I managed to get the deal I mentioned as I am a business customer.
Free Vario 2 , Relax 35 with WnW Pro all in for 35 a month.
Sounds like I got a really good deal.
Thanks
M
If anyone else is interested in what they can get on the T-Mobile Flext packages, I just noticed a handy little interactive tariff checker, which lets you first choose the tariff, and then you drag the pink/purple sliders to the right to choose how many texts / mmses / calls you make on average, and the column on the left (which starts off full to indicate how much allowance your tariff has) depletes based on how much you slide the usage bars...
... I make it sound complicated. Here, take a look: http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatcher?menuid=plans_flext_get&chosenPricePlan=pmt&WT.mc_id=QM_Google
msuk said:
Hi,
I managed to get the deal I mentioned as I am a business customer.
Free Vario 2 , Relax 35 with WnW Pro all in for 35 a month.
Sounds like I got a really good deal.
Thanks
M
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business customer you say, hmmm might have to try that! what proof if any did they ask for? what do you ask for? as in do i say im looking for a new tarrif for more company phone...etc
none
You dont need any proof for a business account. Mine is a business tarif but my business\debit is in my name and I wasn't asked for anything else.
will try and ask for a business account and that deal msuk got
whats the difference on a buisness account then? to make it a business account?
Hiya,
I've been offered the following by O2 upgrades:
X1/Serra collect from O2 store (because no stock available over the phone).
Pay £48 ish for the handset.
£45 tariff reduced to £30 per month - includes the unlimited web bolt on.
18 month contract.
Whatcha rekon - do I collect tomorrow, or wait for a bit more off in the new year?!
I have the exact same contract with O2/Carphone Warehouse. I'm afraid O2 have turned a little stingy over the past year and from what i have heard, this will be the best deal that you are going to get from them.
I didnt pay for the handset tho, i asked for my porting no. and was put through to the retention dept.
Be warned that the paragraph at the end of the script that they read to you (the bit that they tell you doesnt matter and they fly through) contains details of the unlimited web bolt on, not only does it not take effect until the beginning of your next billing period, it is limited to 200MB a month.
I didnt catch this and have just been stung with a huge bill for web useage, i didnt DL much but they charge £3 per MB...........STOP THEIF!!!!!
Aside from that i am pleased with the deal and i think the phone is stunning (stock ROM is pants tho so i installed a cooked ROM and its mustard)
Good luck,
Creamy
as far as i knew o2 would first have to inform you that you were breaking their fair use policy before being able to charge you for extra usage, if you've been charged i'd be onto customer services like a shot!
As for the new tarriff starting, if your current contract has expired then they can move you over in 24-48 hours (and that includes the bolt on), i know this as i waited for an x1 (making me out of contract), and by the time it arrived i could see online that i had unlimited web...
the £3 per day is atrocious tho, their new contracts have a maximum daily limit (i think its £1) so after you pay a pound you get unlimited data! Last year they got a few quid out of me due to browsing tho
Picked up my X1 today.
Thanks for the info.
I've spoken to them in the past - I've been told that 'unlimited' means unlimited, as long as I don't go mad and break their 'fair usage policy'.
I've picked up my X1 today - it comes with a 4GB Micro SD! Woohoo.
Much faster than my Orbit 2, and there's a lot more memory available to programs etc.
Keyboard seems nice - I'm waiting for my sim to transfer over before I get emailing properly, but feels promising so far.
good luck
have fun with your new toy
Oms said:
Hiya,
I've been offered the following by O2 upgrades:
X1/Serra collect from O2 store (because no stock available over the phone).
Pay £48 ish for the handset.
£45 tariff reduced to £30 per month - includes the unlimited web bolt on.
18 month contract.
Whatcha rekon - do I collect tomorrow, or wait for a bit more off in the new year?!
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I had the same offer and they put it on the system as a £15 a month discount. You can then drop to £20 a month (after discount) in 9 months if you wanted to aswell
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I had the same offer and they put it on the system as a £15 a month discount. You can then drop to £20 a month (after discount) in 9 months if you wanted to aswell
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I see! Thanks for the heads up.
I've got this thing going now... not too bad for typing. Waaaay better than the orbit II.
Opera works but not as well as the version I had installed on my orbit.
Skype messenger etc work fine... but my version of TomTom doesn't want to load up properly.
PS how do i find out what week of production this machine is from. I'm interested in whether it's from one of the cursed batches!
I appreciate that quite a few of you have now got one but some of us are still struggling to get our paws on one Personally I want one through o2 but cant seem to get to the front of the queue for placing an order! I could jump ship but would like to stick with them so the burning question is how did you guys do it? Did those of you on o2 get it through a 3rd party eg: paid towards it with someone like carphone warehouse or bmobiles or did you wander into a store who happened to have one fall through their letterbox as you stepped in? When you've had to put up with o2 telling you contradicting "pork pies" about how they haven't shipped any and dont do it yet it makes you start to wonder
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I appreciate that quite a few of you have now got one but some of us are still struggling to get our paws on one Personally I want one through o2 but cant seem to get to the front of the queue for placing an order! I could jump ship but would like to stick with them so the burning question is how did you guys do it? Did those of you on o2 get it through a 3rd party eg: paid towards it with someone like carphone warehouse or bmobiles or did you wander into a store who happened to have one fall through their letterbox as you stepped in? When you've had to put up with o2 telling you contradicting "pork pies" about how they haven't shipped any and dont do it yet it makes you start to wonder
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Personally, I bought mine outright from Expansys.com, SIM free. I've got a monthly contract with O2 where I get enough minutes and texts with a web bolt-on for less than £20 a month. It suits me, but then I had £500 to spare (ish )
I always like the idea of going SIM free, in case something comes out that I really want but can't afford it. I'll just get an 18 or 24 month contract in that situtation, and probably try and get something like a PS3 with it, so I can sell my current phone and the console, so I'll end up with a new phone and a wad of cash. That should help make me feel better about signing up to a contract
Since I went the SIM free route, I can't really advise on who has them and who doesn't, as far as contracts go.
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I appreciate that quite a few of you have now got one but some of us are still struggling to get our paws on one Personally I want one through o2 but cant seem to get to the front of the queue for placing an order! I could jump ship but would like to stick with them so the burning question is how did you guys do it? Did those of you on o2 get it through a 3rd party eg: paid towards it with someone like carphone warehouse or bmobiles or did you wander into a store who happened to have one fall through their letterbox as you stepped in? When you've had to put up with o2 telling you contradicting "pork pies" about how they haven't shipped any and dont do it yet it makes you start to wonder
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Bad news on the O2 front, they finally had some in store yesterday so I could go over and find out what they will be costing on contract. To get it for free you have to sign up for a £45/month contract and that only gives you 1200mins and 500texts. You dont even get the internet package that you get with the iphone. Go for a lower tarif package and you are looking at £100 for the phone..
I will be waiting til vodafone get new stock (with an updated rom) on 11th December. Free phone for £35/month and you get 900mins UNLIMITED texts (3000 FUP), UNLIMITED landline calls (3000mins FUP), UNLIMITED internet (500MB FUP). Plus the vodafone HD's seem to be unlocked and unbranded so in my opinion thats a winning deal and well worth the wait
Each to their own mskip..you do know that the deal you're looking at gets you an extra 300mins if you do it online? all of course assuming that you can live with them making you wait for an indefinate period of time to despatch it
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Each to their own mskip..you do know that the deal you're looking at gets you an extra 300mins if you do it online? all of course assuming that you can live with them making you wait for an indefinate period of time to despatch it
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Yeah actually the 300 extra minutes is available online or over the phone. Over the phone the order gets processed right away for next day delivery so I think im gona be doing it that way lol. Waited long enough for it I figure my patience will stretch to a few more days
Could have got it from a vodafone store 2 weeks ago but they dont offer the internet package and I guess im a tight git I want the most value for my money haha.
we're singing from the same book there buddy..I'm hoping to get one on something like the palms tarif and preferably as a business customer..unltd 02 calls,10 unltd land lines and ultd www would do me nicely at £35 ish a mnth even over 24mths as you can upgrade at the 12mth point and get whtaevers hot then
You guys are making me jealous :\
Back here in Portugal you pay 15 euros for a 100min plan plus 15€/month for a 500MB data plan...
Just try some different vodafone stores, I went to 20 different and one could tell me 2 weeks ago that they would get one that afternoon so I directly reserved it. If you can't find any on stock the next shipment will come in on 17th of december (north ireland).
Its free with a 35 pounds bussines plan it includes 1000 minutes, Unlimited texts, Unlimited Landlines, Unlimited Internet and Vodafone Passport.
Good luck!
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To get it for free you have to sign up for a £45/month contract and that only gives you 1200mins and 500texts. You dont even get the internet package that you get with the iphone. Go for a lower tarif package and you are looking at £100 for the phone..
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Not strictly true. I performed my upgrade two weeks ago yesterday when O2 first got them in stock. I did what I always do when going for an upgrade, threaten to leave. I was told a £35, 18 month tariff would mean the phone would cost £98. I asked to be put through to retentions where I asked for my PAC code. When they asked why I explained I wasn't happy with the fact O2 wanted to charge me £100 for a phone I can get from Vodafone for nothing (not strictly true but he didn't appear to realise that). After a few more persuasive arguments and another threat to leave, he said he 'managed' to get the phone down to £1.72 for me on an 18 month, £35 tariff with 600 minutes, 1000 texts and unlimited data (or 750mb to be precise).
However, I have heard they have cottoned onto people doing this and are now refusing point blank to offer the phone for less than £98. It's got to be worth a shot though.
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You dont even get the internet package that you get with the iphone.
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You sure about that? I got unlimited data the same as the iPhone on a £35 a month tariff. Oh, and be careful with Vodafone's fair usage data policy, you get charged as soon as you go over 500mb, even in the first month. O2's is much better, you have to go over 750mb on a regular basis before they threaten to charge you.
EDIT: just checked and you're wrong there mate - you get a free bolton that you select yourself on all tariffs including and above the 600 minute £35 a month one. One of the selectable boltons is for unlimited web/data. Check the link out.
http://shop.o2.co.uk/tariffs/18_months
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he 'managed' to get the phone down to £1.72 for me on an 18 month, £35 tariff with 600 minutes, 1000 texts and unlimited data (or 750mb to be precise).
now refusing point blank to offer the phone for less than £98. It's got to be worth a shot though.
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which as a "retention deal for a valued customer" is still pretty poor when for only £5 more at vodafone you'll get 1200minutes,ultd texts,ultd data (fup 500mb?) AND ultd landlines over 18mths,oh and that's with the phone for free...what would an extra £5 at o2 get you?not that much I'll guarantee..it seems o2 think they have their customers over a barrel at the moment due to this phones popularity which will no doubt see them losing quite a few punters in the short term! Why they didn't just put it on the same tariff as the Palm Pre is beyond me and is the deal I would/intend to snap up as soon as I can.
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which as a "retention deal for a valued customer" is still pretty poor when for only £5 more at vodafone you'll get 1200minutes,ultd texts,ultd data (fup 500mb?) AND ultd landlines over 18mths,oh and that's with the phone for free...what would an extra £5 at o2 get you?not that much I'll guarantee..it seems o2 think they have their customers over a barrel at the moment due to this phones popularity which will no doubt see them losing quite a few punters in the short term! Why they didn't just put it on the same tariff as the Palm Pre is beyond me and is the deal I would/intend to snap up as soon as I can.
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Yes, but I'd rather pay a little bit extra to avoid Vodafone as I think they're an awful network.
As for the deal you mention, as I never go over my 600 minutes anyway, the extras you speak of mean little to me even if they do only cost £5 more. 1000 texts is effectively unlimited to the vast majority of people and O2's unlimited web deal is better for reasons I pointed out above and that is something I use a lot.
No, I'll stick to O2 thanks and I suggest you do the same.
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Not strictly true. I performed my upgrade two weeks ago yesterday when O2 first got them in stock. I did what I always do when going for an upgrade, threaten to leave. I was told a £35, 18 month tariff would mean the phone would cost £98. I asked to be put through to retentions where I asked for my PAC code. When they asked why I explained I wasn't happy with the fact O2 wanted to charge me £100 for a phone I can get from Vodafone for nothing (not strictly true but he didn't appear to realise that). After a few more persuasive arguments and another threat to leave, he said he 'managed' to get the phone down to £1.72 for me on an 18 month, £35 tariff with 600 minutes, 1000 texts and unlimited data (or 750mb to be precise).
However, I have heard they have cottoned onto people doing this and are now refusing point blank to offer the phone for less than £98. It's got to be worth a shot though.
You sure about that? I got unlimited data the same as the iPhone on a £35 a month tariff. Oh, and be careful with Vodafone's fair usage data policy, you get charged as soon as you go over 500mb, even in the first month. O2's is much better, you have to go over 750mb on a regular basis before they threaten to charge you.
EDIT: just checked and you're wrong there mate - you get a free bolton that you select yourself on all tariffs including and above the 600 minute £35 a month one. One of the selectable boltons is for unlimited web/data. Check the link out.
http://shop.o2.co.uk/tariffs/18_months
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Its alot easier to get a better deal if you are already with your provider and go for an upgrade. At the moment im with orange and they have absolutely nothing worth getting right now (except the iphone 3gs lol) which means I have to goto a new network
I think everyone you talk to will give you different information. For example in the O2 shop I was told the data bolt on was upto 500MB but in the terms and conditions on the website it says unlimited. In the vodafone store and on the phone I have been told that if you go over your 500MB FUP then you will be contacted and that you will definitely not be charged extra for going over the limit. I know that with the O2 bolt on you arent allowed to used your phone as a modem or for video/audio streaming unless you pay extra which is why they have taken youtube off their roms and is pretty stupid really.
You are right that you can get a free bolt on with O2 but with only 500 texts available instore (I think its doubled to 1000 online) its still not enough for me in business use and I would need that bolt on to upgrade to unlimited texts. That of course means I need to pay extra for the data bolt on
Also with vodafone giving unlimited landline calls it means I can do most of my business calls for free and leave my included minutes for family and friends
I know everyone has their prefered network but for everything they are including and the much cheaper tarif I think my only option is vodafone I just hope the stock comes in on the 11th after putting it back 2 times . When I rang htc yesterday they said the delay was because they are putting extra software on for vodafone so im assuming thats the 360 software.
I fully intend to its just a matter of getting the right deal (although I could say any deal at the moment with o2!) I've never tried voda myself but as I get through over 2000mins/mth on o2 (ultd o2's and got all my buddies using them too)straying isn't a very attractive option to me and as for texts,dont use them at all (think my avg over the last mth was 2!)
spastik said:
You guys are making me jealous :\
Back here in Portugal you pay 15 euros for a 100min plan plus 15€/month for a 500MB data plan...
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Consider yourself lucky..
Here in Belgium, you have to pay 20€ for a 85 minute plan (no free sms) + 20€/Month for 200Mb data (or 25€ for 500Mb)
If you want unlimited voice, unlimited sms, but no data, it'll cost you 89€
Also note that you have to buy the phone full price (paid 570€ for the HD2), there are no offers combining a phone and a plan.
I don't think there are many countries where the phone and internet plans (don't get me started on those ) are that expensive
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I fully intend to its just a matter of getting the right deal (although I could say any deal at the moment with o2!) I've never tried voda myself but as I get through over 2000mins/mth on o2 (ultd o2's and got all my buddies using them too)straying isn't a very attractive option to me and as for texts,dont use them at all (think my avg over the last mth was 2!)
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2 texts a month you CRAZYYY person haha I think my average with sending out quotes and texting clients and friends is about 2500 a month
Mithrandir007 said:
Consider yourself lucky..
Here in Belgium, you have to pay 20€ for a 85 minute plan (no free sms) + 20€/Month for 200Mb data (or 25€ for 500Mb)
If you want unlimited voice, unlimited sms, but no data, it'll cost you 89€
Also note that you have to buy the phone full price (paid 570€ for the HD2), there are no offers combining a phone and a plan.
I don't think there are many countries where the phone and internet plans (don't get me started on those ) are that expensive
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OMGG thats madd I dont think I would have a mobile phone if I had to fork out that every month ontop of paying full whack for it as well
You should move to the uk lol
mskip said:
Its alot easier to get a better deal if you are already with your provider and go for an upgrade. At the moment im with orange and they have absolutely nothing worth getting right now (except the iphone 3gs lol) which means I have to goto a new network
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Indeed. I don't think the HD2 is available to new customers on O2 yet, it certainly isn't listed as being available on their website. Which is ridiculous considering I have had it for over two weeks.
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I think everyone you talk to will give you different information. For example in the O2 shop I was told the data bolt on was upto 500MB but in the terms and conditions on the website it says unlimited. In the vodafone store and on the phone I have been told that if you go over your 500MB FUP then you will be contacted and that you will definitely not be charged extra for going over the limit. I know that with the O2 bolt on you arent allowed to used your phone as a modem or for video/audio streaming unless you pay extra which is why they have taken youtube off their roms and is pretty stupid really.
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My O2 branded HD2 has/had Youtube on it, although they had removed the Wi-Fi router. However, I have just used a goldcard to upgrade my firmware to 1.48 which has effectively turned it into a sim-free model and put the wi-fi router option back. As for O2 not allowing tethering, I do it anyway the same way I used to on my iPhone. Providing you don't take the p**s and download 1gb+ a month they have no way of determining the difference between you browsing on the phone and browsing on your laptop through it.
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My O2 branded HD2 has/had Youtube on it, although they had removed the Wi-Fi router. However, I have just used a goldcard to upgrade my firmware to 1.48 which has effectively turned it into a sim-free model and put the wi-fi router option back. As for O2 not allowing tethering, I do it anyway the same way I used to on my iPhone. Providing you don't take the p**s and download 1gb+ a month they have no way of determining the difference between you browsing on the phone and browsing on your laptop through it.
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I'm glad you mentioned that actually..my first "chats" with o2 to get this on a business account led me to inquire about the cost of 3gb data allowance..I was quite prepared to stump up £15/mth so I could ditch the dongle from 3 that I use only to be told that 3gb of data would cost me £405/mth,yes,thats right £405.00 a month! so what if all the sharers on the account get to share it,its still £405 and there's only me on the contract! and to cap it all the woman in question wanted me to pay towards the phone as well!!!
Got a few days ago a update from a friend that works at a vodafone store, just after I got mine they were all called from the vodafone warehouse to HTC because they wanted to fix first some (in my eyes minor) bugs like the pink camera problem...
just like we were told o2 did then...
hi all,
I am a T Mobile UK customer since July 2010 on a 2 year contract for £15 p/m.
Since I have signed up with them I have noticed a steady decrease in service quality, the internet is way slower than it used to be, it really became noticeable after their merger with Orange
today I got my bill increase through the post (The 2nd one since I signed up) now my bills gone up to £15.85 a month, as I haven't got long left on my contract I figure its a good time to start looking around
Voice Minutes aren't important to be, I currently have 300 a month and never use more than 30.
Texts I use occasional, currently I have 300 a month, at most I will use 150.
Data is what I use most, as a smart phone is pretty much useless imo without a data plan, I don't need bags of data, 1GB a month would be way more than enough, I just need a stable/reliable connection.
Looking to pay £10 a month sim only, preferably 30day rolling contract, willing to lock my self in 12months max if its a good deal.
what would you recommend? how are your experiences with other mobile providers?
Thanks, Mark