Startup Items - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

Was curious if the Startup group in the Windows directory can be pared down at all.
I currently have the following in this folder:
B_Uptime_update.lnk
CapNotify.lnk
Init_Tray.lnk
poutlook.lnk
sddaemon.lnk
wclose.lnk
WiFiInit.lnk
Is it ok to remove some of these?

I removed:
Init_Tray (System Tray)
poutlook (some people that remove this get errors launching different stuff, but not me)
sddaemon (voicedial daemon, but I don't use Voicedial)
WifiInit (Don't know it, don't need it, WiFi still works fine)
And I don't have
B_Uptime_update
wclose
And everything still works great.

I also removed:
poutlook
sddaemon
I haven't had a problem, but we'll see. I jus did it yesterday
BTW - My 8125 starts up considerably faster

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run invisible (like service/system device in XP)

Hi Ya!
Is there a way to run programs in the background (like service/system device in XP)?
I´m thinking about to put shortcuts in my StartUp folder with an extension like -h (for hidden)
ActiveSync does this and those apps in the StartUp, but I can´t see how they manage this...
I need this to hide "console.dll" which runs twice on my device but i don´t need to touch them.
Thx!

Startup Programs - What is what ????

Hi guys,
just trying to speed my wizard up that little more, im just curious to what these files are used for on the phone. (They are in my startup directory)
CapNotify
Init_Tray
poutlook
sddaemon
Not sure if they will make a noticable difference if removed but thought it would be wise to find out what they do before i play about with them.
init_tray shows the system tray I think where the incons show up
sddaemon is for speed dialer deamon. the cyber voice dialer thingy...

How do I clear recent programs (or disable it)?

I have a Cingular/HTC 8125 running the latest official ROM from HTC. On my start menu I have a list of recently used programs (the last five or so). I want to disable this feature so only the applications that I want there are there.
Does anyone know how to disable it or at least clear it?
Thank you.
I would love to know too
madmatt079 said:
I have a Cingular/HTC 8125 running the latest official ROM from HTC. On my start menu I have a list of recently used programs (the last five or so). I want to disable this feature so only the applications that I want there are there.
Does anyone know how to disable it or at least clear it?
Thank you.
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There is a small app here that does the job http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=35536
VJEschaton has this feature built in too - but with the same limitations, it only takes effect after the reset.
I think there may be another way to entirely remove recent programs, but it needs some hacking that I don't have time for right now.
If anyone is interested and would feel competent to write it, PM me.
V
The first solution worked well. Thank you.
Although if there is a method to remove "Recent Programs" all together then I'd like to know.
Thank you.
Dont they disapear when you soft reset ?
In another forum some guy (sorry I can't remember where and who), gave this solution:
"Use some type of utility (like Resco File Explorer or just browse to the PDA while in the cradle from your PC) and browse to the Windows\Start Menu\Programs folder on the PDA. Create sub-folders in the root of the Programs folder (such as Utilities, Applications, Games, etc) and copy all of your shortcuts from the Windows\Start Menu\Programs folder into these sub-folders. Once complete, go to Settings and Menus. From here, uncheck all of the programs that are checked and place checks next to all the sub-folders that you just created (* Make sure you stay under the maximum limit of 5 (or whatever)).
It seems that the "recent list" only monitors the Start Menu\Programs folder. If you move your shortcuts out of this folder, they no longer appear on that dreaded recent list. The major bonus that I've noticed is that the Start menu no longer has that 3 - 5 second lag!!!
Note: Using this work around, you will need to move the shortcuts of any newly installed applications into your sub-folders manually. Also, be sure you remap your PDA buttons to the location of the new shortcuts. Other then these two "cons", this solution works GREAT!!!"
I've tested it and it sure works great!!!
I forgot to mention that with this trick you can DISABLE recent documents list
Danny-B-, yes, it worked well.
jolas, I attempted this exactly as you described. I renamed "Accessory" to "Accessories" and created "Tools". I moved everything that I didn't want to appear in the recent programs list including moving Calculator to Accessories. I then launched Calculator and it appeared in the list.
None of which except the defaults (IE, Messaging, WMP, etc.) are checked in the menu settings.
Did I miss something?
Thank you.
Delicious, worked for me on my Cingular 8125 w/ 2.25. I was really getting tired of running ClearTemp all the bloody time.
Interestingly enough I have a folder called "Settings" and it won't let me show it on the Start Menu - I had to rename it to "Utilities".
madmatt079 said:
jolas, I attempted this exactly as you described. I renamed "Accessory" to "Accessories" and created "Tools". I moved everything that I didn't want to appear in the recent programs list including moving Calculator to Accessories. I then launched Calculator and it appeared in the list.
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EDIT: Screenshot added of what your tree should look like after this change. Removed confusing post.
rubbercow, your `drawing` is as confusing as words.. with the DO, DO NOT seems to be at the same place.
Anyway, I was confused myself too. However, after reading through and some fiddling around, I finally got what these posts are trying to say.
Just to make this as clear as possible.
Definition:
Sticky Start Menu Item (SSMI) - I defined it as those items that always appear on your start menu (top section). You can add/remove your SSMIs in the Settings->Menus
Recently Launched Programs (RLP) - the items in the Recently launched program list (e.g. the list under SSMIs list).
Fact:
WM5 will not put any of your SSMIs into the RLP list (or else, you will have duplicate icon/item of the same program in your start menu).
More talking:
Using the fact above, we can avoid programs that we do not want to be put into the RLP list (e.g. stuff in SD card that is large and takes ages for it to load the icon when you press the Start) by having them as SSMIs (in the list). However, WM5 only allows up to 7 items in the SSMIs list. So, we create a folder for it.
E.g. By default you should have a directory structure that looks like this
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games
To test it, you can try putting the `Games` folder (the folder!) into the SSMIs list. After doing so, any programs (games) you start (that is under the Games folder) will not appear on the RLP list. This is the thing we are trying to exploit.
Hence, to avoid stuff going into the RLP list, you create some other folders, e.g. Tools
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools
And move everything into this `Tools` folder. Make this `Tools` folder as one of the SSMIs. Then any software under this Tools will not appear on the RLPs list.
Process Summary
Simple procedure. Modified to suits your needs.
(1) Create a `Tools` (or any name) folder under the Start Menu\Programs. Example, this folder
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools
(2) Move everything into this newly created `Tools` folder.
(3) Make this `Tools` folder (the folder) as sticky on the start menu by 'ticking' it in the Setting->Menus
- now all your stuff will not appear in the recently launched programs list
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hanmin said:
rubbercow, your `drawing` is as confusing as words.. with the DO, DO NOT seems to be at the same place.
Anyway, I was confused myself too. However, after reading through and some fiddling around, I finally got what these posts are trying to say.
Just to make this as clear as possible.
Definition:
Sticky Start Menu Item (SSMI) - I defined it as those items that always appear on your start menu (top section). You can add/remove your SSMIs in the Settings->Menus
Recently Launched Programs (RLP) - the items in the Recently launched program list (e.g. the list under SSMIs list).
Fact:
WM5 will not put any of your SSMIs into the RLP list (or else, you will have duplicate icon/item of the same program in your start menu).
More talking:
Using the fact above, we can avoid programs that we do not want to be put into the RLP list (e.g. stuff in SD card that is large and takes ages for it to load the icon when you press the Start) by having them as SSMIs (in the list). However, WM5 only allows up to 7 items in the SSMIs list. So, we create a folder for it.
E.g. By default you should have a directory structure that looks like this
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games
To test it, you can try putting the `Games` folder (the folder!) into the SSMIs list. After doing so, any programs (games) you start (that is under the Games folder) will not appear on the RLP list. This is the thing we are trying to exploit.
Hence, to avoid stuff going into the RLP list, you create some other folders, e.g. Tools
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools
And move everything into this `Tools` folder. Make this `Tools` folder as one of the SSMIs. Then any software under this Tools will not appear on the RLPs list.
Process Summary
Simple procedure. Modified to suits your needs.
(1) Create a `Tools` (or any name) folder under the Start Menu\Programs. Example, this folder
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools
(2) Move everything into this newly created `Tools` folder.
(3) Make this `Tools` folder (the folder) as sticky on the start menu by 'ticking' it in the Setting->Menus
- now all your stuff will not appear in the recently launched programs list
Thanks for making that clearer hamin - I think i eventually worked it out.
But still begs the question - why do people not want programs showing in the recently loaded program list? I find this useful and my startmenu always starts in less than a second even after soft reset. :wink:
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meschle said:
Thanks for making that clearer hamin - I think i eventually worked it out.
But still begs the question - why do people not want programs showing in the recently loaded program list? I find this useful and my startmenu always starts in less than a second even after soft reset. :wink:
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You are the lucky one, I guess There are many (including me) which seems to find the start menu to be slow (e.g. this one ). I'm not sure why mine is slow (1-2 seconds), probably because I had many of the software installed on my SD (instead of the main memory) and my phone is a Charmer. Topic aside, is Wizard faster than Charmer (is there any benchmark to it)?
Other than the start menu, the Start->Setting pages are also very slow (a second or two) after each softreset. You don't have this problem?
madmatt079 said:
Danny-B-, yes, it worked well.
jolas, I attempted this exactly as you described. I renamed "Accessory" to "Accessories" and created "Tools". I moved everything that I didn't want to appear in the recent programs list including moving Calculator to Accessories. I then launched Calculator and it appeared in the list.
None of which except the defaults (IE, Messaging, WMP, etc.) are checked in the menu settings.
Did I miss something?
Thank you.
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Goto '\Windows\Start Menu' and create a directory (name it e.g Applications).
Now, under the 'Windows\Start Menu' there must be 3 subdirectories (Applications, Programs, Settings).
If yes, then move the desired apps, from the '\Programs' folder to the '\Applications' folder. (Before you remove the apps make sure that you have uncheck them from the 'Menus' list (Start -----> Settings -------> Menus).
:wink:
i cant move any
it gave me error access is denied when i try moving any shortcut
please help
ok i guess it was my expedition it was easy sory
and am shy of my weak knowledge ... thank you all any way

What should be in your startup folder ??

I have...
capnotify
elatepusher
ilock
init_tray
poutlook
sddaemon
fuistarter
wifiinit
Well, if you're asking, "Is there something in my list that shouldn't be there?" the answer is no.
The only things in your list that normally come stock on a Wizard are init_tray, poutlook, and sddaemon. Everything else is installed, presumably by you, or a previous owner if applicable.
I removed my init_tray to buy myself a few extra pixels of real estate, but I know a lot of folks use it to launch apps from. My only beef with that is the icons are too small to hit without a stylus, and my sausage-fingers launch apps 2-3 at a time using that method...
capnotify
quickmenu
smartskeys
startclean
startkey(eurokbd starter)
wifitray
with camera free mem after boot(with running qm, ta, bs, wm5newmenu, aidate, and listed above) - 34.7 mb,
without cam driver and qm, ta, bs, wm5newmenu, aidate, and listed above running - 37.4 mb mem free.
yeah sorry for that post....it is my wiz.

Startup apps-what is necessary?

I have a TMOUSA HD2, most recent stock ROM.
Looking at the Windows\Startup folder, I see the following items are in it, that I think were there originally (i.e., not added by an app I installed) (although I may be mistaken on some):
BTTrayCE
HTCStartup
InstantForward
LockDevice
PKG
poutlook
SyncManager
Voice Command
Which of those are necessary, and which can be safely deleted, to shorten bootup time, reduce memory usage, etc.?
Well, I am sure that Voice Command can be removed, but I like Voice Command (when it works), so will probably keep it.
I am pretty sure that poutlook is necessary, and the BT one for BT functioning.
But what about the others?
I guess besides the apps started in the startup folder, there are other background apps, processes, services, and drivers started by registry entries. Are all of those necessary, or can some of those be safely removed as well? If yes, which ones, and where in the registry can those entries be found?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
Anyone know?
I second this. Although I think the mojority of the startup time is wasted in initializing sense.
I know you can delete
PKG
Instant Forward
POUTLOOK
SyncManager
here another thread that you can check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=675987&highlight=startup
paolodoctolero said:
I know you can delete
PKG
Instant Forward
POUTLOOK
SyncManager
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Could you explain what those four are? I don't want to delete something, without knowing what it is, whether the deletion could cause a problem, etc.
I thought Poutlook (pocket outlook) was essential, necessary for calendar, contacts, etc.
What about LockDevice? Necessary to lock the device?
SyncManager? Necessary to run ActiveSync? I don't know.
It sure would be nice to see a listing of what each of the default HD startup items actually are.
Also, besides that \Startup folder in the \Windows directory, is there a registry key in WM 6.5 for startup, like the Run key in desktop Windows registry?

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