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EVERYTIME I install something from SPB, I have had random problems..
a) XDA doesnt power up
b) XDA has to be reset.
Now, for over a month, I have not installed ANY SPB stuff.. and everything is smooth as whiskey!
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*whew* that felt good!
Strange I had never have that kind of problems and I have a lot of Spb softwares installed....
Interesting, I've never had any problems and I use THREE SPB software products.
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SBP Products
I was using Pocket Plus.. w/ 1.72 Rom. And my PPC wouldn't power up and i had to pull the battery and do a hard reset. I haven't added any SBP Products and I haven't had any problems. Weather or not it's related, I won't know unless my PPC locks up again without SBP Products installed.
So I guess I'm the 2nd person that thinks that SBP is causing problems. Could be with my 1.72 rom version.
Personally I've had two Sudden Death Syndrome situations on my system (in about 2-3 months), requiring a hard reset, the first running Battery Pack Pro, then second when running PocketPlus 2.0.
I'm pretty sure it's nothing to do with either SBP (PocketPlus) or Omega-1 (BatteryPack).
Phil
i havent had any issues since i removed that plus version before the new v2
i too had issues with it not wanted to turn on and i had to do a hardreset
Same for me went from Imate 1.52 ROM to 1.72 and it locked up on me. Would not turn on, hard reset. I did not put back on SPB plus 2.0 and I have had no problems at all. VERY stable, VERY fast.
Don't know but Im not putting SPB plus back on. Think their software does not like the microsoft service packs that were in 1.66 and 1.72
weird mine seems to be running fine on imate 1.72 rom :\
I don't think spb software stinks, I actually think most of it is pretty great. However I did email them about sudden hard reset syndome and PocketPlus 2, and they acknowledged there is a problem with some XDA IIs.
"This is a known bug that may occur on some XDA2 devices. We are working hard
to fix it in the next versions of Pocket Plus.
Feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.
Best regards,
Alexander Shalin
Customer Support Team
Spb Software House"
As others have said - SPB Pocket Plus ver. 2 is working perfectly on my i-mate 1.72. I wouldn't be without it!
Pocket Plus 2.0 is prolly the best util i've ever found for my PPC
Not had any problems YET (hope i dont)
I had the same problem with Sprite backup but found a fix for it. Disable the option (stop processes when backing up) found in the backup settings and hopefully your device will not hangup.
I had a Hard Reset suddenly on my Qtec 2020(FW:1.66WWE)
It was Spb Pocket Plus.
Hard Reset
Okay.. I haven't ran any SBP software since my last Hard Reset crash. My PPC just crashed hard today.. Three hard resets in a row!! I'm thinking it's this Beta 172 rom from T-Mobile. :: sigh :: I'm going to downgrade and start using SBP again
I asked Spb if 2.1 has the XDA II fix and they said it did not.
I have been using SPB Pocket Plus, Full Screen Keyboard, GPRS Monitor, since my Xda I, and now on my Xda II with the addition of SPB Time, and I've never encountered any problems with my device that were related or caused by the SPB software. I also use Sprite Backup and dont have problems with it working with my SPB software either, in fact I have tons of other software installed too, and I've never had any problems with the SPB working with them too.
These softwares from SPB are among the most useful and have the highest priority in my software list for my device whenever I reinstall.
I've also tried running it with different ROMs for my Xda I, and the old O2 Xda II ROM asian ROM, and now with the O2 Xda II 1.60 asian ROM.
Not sure why you guys are having errors, maybe its the ROM version you are using, or maybe confict with some other software installed on your device.
I'm not defending SPB or anything, I'm Just sharing my experience.
The problem seems to be with the 1.66 and newer ROMs and only happens on the XDA II, not the original XDA. Spb confirms the problem, so that's why some of us are having problems- it is a real bug. I too love their products, but those are the facts. I hope a new version with the fix comes out soon!
On the Official XDA website, I noticed today that it states, that spb Pocket Plus is not compatably with XDA II.
"SpB Pocket Plus
For xda only, not compatible with Xda II. "
http://www.myxda.com/web/template/Shop.vm/category/Software
Its not clear if it refers to the latest version.
Although I have been running it on mine for long time, with no sudden hard resets (just multiple daily soft resets when it freezes - Rom 1.66).
no problems here either!!
i have lots of SPB software with NO problems whatsoever...
I think that this page on myxda.com is completely out of date. They wrote the same thing for Pocket Slideshow (which is wrong, of course)
I have a 850 I-mate JAM, and I installed the newest ROM. It was fine for like 2 days, and then every couple of days it would automatically reboot itself, wiping everything (except for me SD card) clean, and starting back up again from the beginning where you align the screen. I thought it was the newest ROM, so I download the orginal one and reinstalled it. Well it happened again, with the original ROM and its really annoying. It didn't start doing this until I installed the 1.11 ROM, but I reinstalled the old ROM and it still did it. Does anyone know a fix for this, or has this happened to anyone. I've only owned this thing for like 2 1/2 months.
I have a JAM850, running the latest 1.11 ROM and haven't found any issues yet. I'm running the following Today-Screen plugins: SPB PocketPlus, JournalBar, Rhinostat, SBSH Pocket Breeze, Pocket Syswatch.
I've heard of some hard reset issues involving Wisbar Advanced.
Are you running any special Today Screen apps?
Just SPB Pocket Plus (the latest version). Maybe it was just a small glitch, I'll play with it a little while longer to see if it happens again.
Hi, for some strange reason my wizard hangs at the boot screen some times after reseting after running spb backup. I have set spb to to a backup at 4am every alternate day so when i wake up in the morning i know my data is all backed up. It has worked fine for a while now but for some reason it just stays at the windows boot screen and when i wake up in the morning the battery is low It also happens sometimes when i regularly soft reset, and i found once the backlight turns off during reboot and i dont press a button to bring the backlight on it seems to hang then. Otherwise its fine. Its really quite frustrating because i use my wizard as an alarm clock and i was late to school today because it didn't go off because of this problem. Ive got oamp clock plus installed plus a few other tweaks but its never given me problems before. Its also a G4 wizard if that helps.
Thanks!!
you can always sell me your wizard
Install in main memory
Do you have it installed in main memory? I had this problem with an older version installed on the SD card. Moving it to main memory fixed the problem. Also, are you using the current version, which I think is 1.55
Its installed on the main memmory and i have version 1.12 build 2050. I think i might try 2 upgrade then and see what happens.
well i updated spb backup to the latest version and that doesnt seem to work. It now seems to freeze on the windows mobile screen on most soft resets, which are done from the os, ie installing a new program and being asked to soft reset..it freezes on that reset so i have to push the soft reset button. Is there any other options? i dont particularly want to do a hard reset as it would take me ages to tweak and install it all back up to scratch.
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well i updated spb backup to the latest version and that doesnt seem to work. It now seems to freeze on the windows mobile screen on most soft resets, which are done from the os, ie installing a new program and being asked to soft reset..it freezes on that reset so i have to push the soft reset button. Is there any other options? i dont particularly want to do a hard reset as it would take me ages to tweak and install it all back up to scratch.
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It doesn't sound to me like spb backup is actually the problem, if you can't install the program properly. I would recommend a hard reset. Since our system is working at the moment, you can be organized, copying setting files, my documents, etc. to the sd card. I can generally get back up and running with 95% of my tweaks after a hard reset in an hour. (It is worth keeping a file with program passwords, etc.) This is also a good time to upgrade your ROM, too. One flaw of Windows Mobile is that it doesn't uninstall programs properly, so that files get left. Eventually, a hard reset is a good idea to clean this stuff up.
By the way, an advantage of installing programs on the sd card is that they continue to work. Copy the shortcuts from windows/start menu onto the sd card and you can replace them without reinstalling. Most require reinserting the passwords, however. The programs that shouldn't go on the sd card are programs that (i) have a today plugin (ii) backup programs and other programs that have to perform a soft reset and continue to operate. SD cards don't start up right away coming out of a soft reset, so may not be available when needed in these instances.
Same with Sunnysoft Backup Manager
I have the same problem with SBM, both version 3 and 4. I did notice that it was hung up, I unplugged it and the backup started working. I do not know why, but it helped.
Alrighty then looks like ill have to do a hard reset. Is there a thread that will show me the right way to back up contacts etc and generally make a hard reset easier. I have a G4 wizard thats locked so im not so confident in upgrading my rom. Crossbow would be nice tho. I did manage to install spb back up to the main memmory on the ungrade but that didnt solve my problem. Oh well i guess its time to clean out ye old wizard on the weekend. Geez there goes my HSC.
Thanks.
Outlook
I sync with outlook, which preserves my contacts through a rom upgrade. If you upgrade the ROM you can't use the backup file -- contacts are stored in another form. I hear that it is possible to sync with Yahoo intellisync to the web, but I haven't personally tried it. In any case, syching seems to be the recommended means of saving that information. Don't forget to save your files, although those you can get from a backup.
FYI, I've been having the same problem (i.e., auto-backup, soft reset, FREEZE) since I installed the newest Faria ROM AKU 2.2.
The commonality, I think, might be the latest version of Omap Plus. There also seems to be a problem in general with this ROM of doing soft resets whilst USB is connected (which is how I do my nightly backups/resets).
If you haven;t done that hard reset yet, you might want to wait a day or two... I'll run some experiments tonight to see if Omap is the problem.
Alrightly ill wait, its wierd that it could be oamp clock plus as i have been using that for a while with no real problems. its only over clocked to 216mhz and that just makes it a bit more, lets say, perky than its regular clock speed. Im using OS 2.16... original I-mate Kjam rom on a G4 wizard. Im tossing up whether to pay 50 buks Aus. and get it unlocked, thats a fair amount of cash for some one who lives off bittorrent
I'd be surprised if OMAP is the problem
I've never had a problem with Omap. I'm using whatever came with Faria 3.3, which I assume is the latest. I've had one failed backup (it was only 48KB instead of the normal 5.5MB, so something failed) but otherwise no problems.
yeh, well ive been doing some more playing around with my phone and it just keeps stuffing up. I think its time to do a hard reset to clean out the junk n stuff. I think a G4 CID unlocking program is in the works that will be out soon. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293080 check out the pics.
Thanks.
Same problem here, also started out in February.. Unfortunately, can only offer my company for having this problem. I even tried a hard reset and then restore some old backup but with the same hanging... Windows Mobile really confuses me... I guess it is the "save to flash" thing that happens after a few seconds and not immediately.. Please keep me posted on your problem... I have been soft resetting almost 4 times a day daily since the start of February...
Sorry, no answers. OMAP Plus is fine.; for me, the problem seems to be being on the USB plug. SPB Backup works fine otherwise.
Well i could wait any longer, so i flashed with molskis G4 aku2.3 rom, i had to flash with wizard_love rom first to get the os upgraded but then flashed again with molskis to get the cuztomisations. all on a locked G4. Awsome. Its so fast now compared to before. And well i think it solved the problem as well. I think we should contiue this thread so as to find a solution other than reflashing, as i was up until 1am fixing it all up again.
Thanks!
duh... yup, I am still a newbie to flashing new roms...
Did you CID unlock your G4? ;-)
nah havent cid unlocked my G4, duno if it really worth the money. I think i can wait until the boys at the G4 unlocking project work something out. They always seem to. At least i think my G4 is locked, i bought it off a friend who i dont think even knew what sort of phone it was. ohh well im happy with my mollski.
I don't know but there is all these "I bricked my phone" thing going around with G4 wizards. I also considered Molski's but back off after reading all these negative responses...
Fair enough, i havent had any problems with molskis aku 2.3 rom and it has some nice customisations as well. i tell you what tho, my phone has never booted up qicker since i installed the molski rom. if only for that reason i would do it. were talking less than a minute, my older rom took ages.
I recently got a Touch Dual/Niki and from time to time when being in standby (the screen turned off) it doesn't respond on any button press, nor does it react when trying to call it, I've got it back up and running only by removing the battery, setting it back and then I can turn on the device again.
I haven't really customized anything and the only 3rd party software that I know that have been running at the time are gmail client and/or live messenger
Anyone else experienced the same problems? ..does this seem like some software bug, or is my hardware faulty?
Rom: 1.31.414.02
Rom date: 11/02/07
Radio version: 1.58.16.27
Protocol version: 25.61.30.03H
Operator Saunalahti/Finland
same problem here!
I'd guess hardware, but just to be safe, you should probably do a hard reset and see if that helps. I had a problem with mine where it would lose random amounts of time every once in a while (the clock would be completly wrong) and the screen would become completely unresponsive for over a minute just after I rebooted the phone. At one point, it just decided it didn't want to boot and just got stuck on the WM loading screen, even after multiple hard resets. I replaced the device and the new one works perfectly.
yup, me too.. happened today after i finished a call. i just left the thing alone for a bit & was ok later
ok, just did the hard reset, if it happens again I'll go replace it
Lord of the Badgers said:
yup, me too.. happened today after i finished a call. i just left the thing alone for a bit & was ok later
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same here. at the moment I try to live with that, although it's rather annoying. happens 3 to 4 times a day. no response to touchscreen or buttons, but touching the screen makes the backlight going from dimmed to bright. (you know, after quite a while being idle, it dims and after another while it goes to standby)
about half a minute later it's back and executes some (or all) of the inputs at once.
I use some third party programs and tools, but nothing which diggs deep in the system (except AEButton+). So maybe it's one of them. Also I use scheduled IMAP synchronization, which may also play a part in this.
Any one-fits-all solution is deeply appreciated. (Not very impressive to show a frozen device...)
Cheers,
jekk
Ok, it just happened again.. I'll go complain to service.
Same thing here... happens whenever it feels like it. I thought it may have been one of my apps.... particularly Photo Contacts Pro as every now and then that does some strange things, but interesting to know this happens to others as well.
yeah
just happened to me again as well
any solutions?
*bump*
Currently I wonder whether this is a hardware or software issue. So some questions:
did someone flash the problem away?
did someone hard-reset the problem away?
did someone device-replace the problem away?
This would be helpful.
Cheers,
jekk.
Flashed my niki.
I'm getting very regular freeze up's on browsing the internet with a 3G connection. I'm waiting for a new ROM to arrive to determine if the problem is software/hardware (unless both ROM's use the same base Rom )
My old prophet had an easy accesible reset button, unfortunately I have to remove the batterycap now and I have a feeling the mechanisme won't hold for 2 years if I open it every day a couple times.
FWIW, my device is currently sent in for service, I'll report back with the outcome when I eventually get a device back..
Isn't it just brilliant, after a week of "service", they tell me freely translated: "No problem found. Device reset. (Might it be the standby mode from which the device wakes up by pressing the power button?)"
Of course they did not bother to call me to ask for further clarification... Now I'll have to wait until it arrives back at the shop where I sent it in so I can go and send it back..
Oh the joy!
Same freeze problem
Hi guys
I' have same freeze probleme on my niki, i made hard reset without solving nothing.Only solution remove battery and restart.
In my case it always happens while system is in stand by so my phone goes offline and i havent any advice.
Last mornig after a night recharge a foud my niki completely uncharged with red led.I have ordered a new battery hoping the problem may be in my battery.
I had the same problem. Sometimes it wouldn't wake up when I pressed the powerbutton.
Last thursday I flashed my device with Tom Codon's ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364335
I haven't got the problem since
I had never experienced any freezing problems with my niki until yesterday, when I first started using my new 8gb sdhc microsd card. Now it has happened three times! Is it possible that the driver is to blame? We know older devices had some perculiar issues with external storage upon wakeup.
For clarity; I have a 16-key niki from orange using the stock rom and the card is an sandisk class 4.
Let me know if you guys have a similiar setup.
SMYKUL said:
I had never experienced any freezing problems with my niki until yesterday, when I first started using my new 8gb sdhc microsd card. Now it has happened three times! Is it possible that the driver is to blame? We know older devices had some perculiar issues with external storage upon wakeup.
For clarity; I have a 16-key niki from orange using the stock rom and the card is an sandisk class 4.
Let me know if you guys have a similiar setup.
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I've just hard reset mine .... now seems stable ... before it was freezing every time I tried to use it.
So now I have no SD installed + no apps.
Before
SD with very few apps
Sprite backup HTC version
Informant previuos version
Flex Mail 2007
Copilot 6
Fsecure from Tmobile customisation
So I am thinking SD compatability may have been my issue ... I only had a 2GB Sandisk Premier. Will try a 1GB later
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[...] until yesterday, when I first started using my new 8gb sdhc microsd card.
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That's interesting... I am also using a (4gb) micro sd card. Maybe this really is the reason for the freezes. hard resets (2 till now) didn't solve the problem for me and I have not tried flashing a new rom yet. so this goes well with the possibility of a misbehaving driver thing.
As I wrote I only had freeze up's during browsing the www. After reading that there might be a sd-card driver problem I changed all IE temp directories back from the storage card to the device itself and I now can browse uninterrupted. So it seems that there is a slight driver issue.
Ralph
Changing SD card semed to fix things for me ..... at least for th last few days.
Before I swapped card I had constant problems
I have a problem with Sleep of Death in WinMo. When i put my Mini in sleep mode and I'm trying to wake it up - nothing happens. Does anyone know how to resolve this problem?
Hello, did you manage to resolve your problem? I just started having the same problem. Hard reset did not help. I am going to reload latest official ROM.
I wait for your expressions after reloading ROM. I've hard reseted WinMo and even in Android - nothing happens. I'll reflash ROM after work.
I reaolved the problem on my mini by disabling htc lockscreen.
if u search how to disable it u will find it
PeGie: I re-loaded the latest shipped ROM (1.36). It works (so far). I'll add additional software one by one to see if there is some relation.
bruce2728: Thank you for the tip. However, I cannot disable it. I am using the device also for company e-mail synchronizing by using ActiveSync. The company policies force to use the screen lock and I am not able to change it.
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PeGie: I re-loaded the latest shipped ROM (1.36). It works (so far). I'll add additional software one by one to see if there is some relation.
bruce2728: Thank you for the tip. However, I cannot disable it. I am using the device also for company e-mail synchronizing by using ActiveSync. The company policies force to use the screen lock and I am not able to change it.
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if you disable htc lockscreen in the registry it defaults to the windows 6.5 one, so you will still have a screen lock
edit: forget lockscreen it happened again after a few hours
Shake'n'Wake
Have you try the Shake'n'Wake application?
13alexandro13 said:
Have you try the Shake'n'Wake application?
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Seems to work but only a temporary solution.
I think the driver that controls the power button goes to sleep when phone in standby
I'll investigate tonight and report back if I have any succes
Guys, thanks for help. I tried today to turn off lockscreen, but it doesen't worked. I'll try to figure it out tommorow. I'm waiting for results of investigation of Sleep of death.
I uninstalled CleanRAM first and hard reset and I have no more problem SOD
(last 10 hours is normal) I do not know if I will again have the same problem, now works ok
HTC HD mini German ROM: 1.41.166.1
I mentioned that hard reset did not help. That may not actually be true. When I did hard reset then I immediatelly installed all my applicatiosn and changed all the settings I used to change. Some of the software or config change may cause the problem. However, it is strange that it began just few days ago. I was using the device almost 1 year without this problem.
Anyway, as I mentioned before, I re-loaded the 1.36 ROM today. Then I left all settings at defaults. I did not install any application. It is working correctly so far. I'll add app/config change one by one to track the root cause. It will take some time of monitoring but I need to identify the cause. My suspect #1 is my company security policy. That would explain the problem appearance beginning.
I already had some problem caused probably by my company security settings.
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However, it is strange that it began just few days ago.
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and to me it's strange because the last few days, so to say I did not use mobile phones, nothing new installed or changed settings.
I have this problem too. Since yesterday - started from failing to wake me in the morning. It's kind of weird, all of the sudden phone stopped to work correctly.
At last (judging by more people having problem as well) is not the hardware problem.
Anyone has any idea: this problem was known before, or it started in last few days?
I'm also having this problem. I've changed nothing on my phone since months and since yesterday it has this problem. I'm thinking of sending it for repair and wait what they will say about it.
I was using my HD mini for 10 months without problems. But today I was faced the same problem as you mentioned. I removed my battery and left my HD mini without battery for ~30 minutes. Then I put battery back and turn on the phone and everything works now ...
It sound really weird that this problem is popping out suddenly to a number of users, while before there was no symptom.. it would seem as crazy as a time-driven issue or something..
Before reading here, my 1st step would have been removal of lockscreen, then 2nd one going back to clean original installation, but looks like those moves are not of help..
Fact is that the only new software i installed is bsb tweaks whose changes may affect registry and corrupt system configurations.. do you all guys have bsb installed?
Let's try to figure this out together, missed wakeup and calls are really annoying, as well as removing the battery to make a phone call...
No, I don't have bsb.
And people are using bsb without much problem for the last year.
Some kind of millennium bug? Someone programmed end of the world in our phones?
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No, I don't have bsb.
And people are using bsb without much problem for the last year.
Some kind of millennium bug? Someone programmed end of the world in our phones?
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Next frontier of marketing development, a built-in countdown ticking for a faster & continuous phone replacement...
i don't have bsb on my mini
I do not have BSB installed (actually, I have idea what it is). My Mini is stable 16 hours after ROM reload. It survived the night! I believe hard-reset would help too. I'll re-test hard-reset if I see the problem again after some app/cfg install/change.
My next step is to install HTC updates:
PHO03869.exe
PHO03880.exe
_HTC HD Mini_PHO03611.exe
Then I will install/configure (not ordered):
home WiFi - hidden SSID, WPA-PSK, AES, ASCII key
CorePlayer v1.3.6 Build 7427 - directdraw output
TomTom 7.916.9192 QVGA with one map
ActiveSync - for company e-mail
IMAP e-mail - for Gmail account
turned off HTC Sense
turnd off weather (Application Data\HTC\databases -> deleted the file forecast_cache.db, restarted Sense (uncheck/check in today settings)) - this is sometimes required to stop the weather to be updated from web
system settings change - bluetooth, regional settings, etc.