A guy at work sold me his XDA Mini-S for £100 (worth it?) and I have a Nokia N70 which is my current phone.
The problem now is that I don't know what one I should keep now.
I like both phones a lot but have to let one go and I'm leaning towards letting the N70 go because the Wizard's wifi is a fantastic feature.
I used to have a wizard and sold it but when I was offered another for £100 I couldn't turn it down.
My biggest worry about the wizard is me damaging it. Phones with big screens seem veunerable to me but I do keep it in it's case at all times.
I like Windows Mobile 5 and Symbian OS and get along with them both fine.
Which is the better phone in your opinion?
chazam said:
A guy at work sold me his XDA Mini-S for £100 (worth it?) and I have a Nokia N70 which is my current phone.
The problem now is that I don't know what one I should keep now.
I like both phones a lot but have to let one go and I'm leaning towards letting the N70 go because the Wizard's wifi is a fantastic feature.
I used to have a wizard and sold it but when I was offered another for £100 I couldn't turn it down.
My biggest worry about the wizard is me damaging it. Phones with big screens seem veunerable to me but I do keep it in it's case at all times.
I like Windows Mobile 5 and Symbian OS and get along with them both fine.
Which is the better phone in your opinion?
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Sure the wizard! - hands down winner!!
you might want to try asking that outside a wizard discussion board if you want unbiased answers :wink:
I have a nokia 6680 (which is basicly the same as the N70, except for the graphics) and a Vario aswell.
Both phones have their pros and cons. It's depends on what you are looking for in a phone.
I'm getting rid of my 6680 but that's just my personal choice.
The 6680 is a good solid phone but the problem with it is that it's too big and has no decent way of inputing data into it. It's basicly just a record keeper which you can sync with all the data on your laptop.
The one big thing it has over the wizard is battery time, which is always nice.
I'm getting rid of my 6680 to get a smaller phone (with no extra's) to use on my off time and the wizard is going to be used for "office stuff". I'm basicly sick of having to drag my 6680 around everywhere. When I'm at a pub I have this big bulge in my pocket which just sticks out whenever I walk around or sit down.
The problem is, there are no decent small phones. I've tried Samsung for a while, didn't like it. Tried Motorola for a while didn't like it aswell. I'm gonna look at some LG and SE phones.
So it all depends on what you are looking for in a phone.
Couldnt see me using anything other than my wizard at the moment. WM5 on a phone with built in wifi, what more could you want ?
I'm keeping the Wizard and getting rid of the N70.
The wifi is too good IMO. 8)
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I have used many blackberry devices and PDA's for my work before and could not wait to get my hands on an EXEC.
It looks supurb it rearly does, It will make your m8's jaws drop.
Thebox it comes in makes you think WOW! I have some nice kit here.
Beyond the box though, You have to start it up, Here you will start to wonder!
It will take about 2 Mins to boot from Cold (1 1/2 mins longer than a 486 PC booting into Windows 98 )
Does not matter what mode you go in, Basic, Advanced or Corporate.
You click on Start And after a small delay you may get the menu.
As you start to navigate through Windows Mobile 5 you will instantly notice the sluggish response and this is all before you even install anything on it.
I read all the pre release reviews about this device and am surprised that no one commented on this speed issue!
You learn to notice that the PDA side is too slow to use compaired to other PDA devices.
TOM TOM users will expeirence massive difficulty and incompatibility issues.
The Exec and other Universal devices was the first time that sees the Windows Mobile 5 Software and as such is so buggy you may as well be using a beta version. Software is very scare's compaired to other windows mobile and SE builds.
Reports are starting to come through about the hinge of the screen, though I did not experience this. Be Warned.
The phone functions I had no problems with, Conversations was clear and had not experienced any missed calls like users of the Jas Jar have reported.
The device is much heaver than you may expect and much more bulky due to it's clamshell form factor (fold up keyboard and swivel screen)
With all the above issue's I was personally Dissapointed and ended up selling on this forum after 2 Day's of having the device.
( http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31002 )
There may be Flash updates in the very near future though It Pi**es me off that companies release this crap before ironing out this massive issues. I mean did they rearlly thing we would not notice?
Stick to a Blackberry or PDA Stand alone.
ME.. I have just ordered myself a Nokia 8800 and will stick to my HP PDA.
I can see your point about some of the bugs with the device, but every xda has had these and they have been pretty much sorted out with time. Personally I love my exec, it is everything I hoped it would be, and yes, there are annoying glitches (I don't like the O2 ROM) but overall it is working very well. Sorry you had such a bad experience with yours!
Fin
hmm
Love my mda pro,
works a charm in my eyes, and all new mobiles have these problems, after an update or a change of rom it will all be fine.
The problem here is that you buy a state of the art phone/pda, of course it has bugs.. buy a new model car and it will have child faults too. these are minor and will be solved in updates.
I have been using my mda pro for a week now and must say it is the coolest phone/pda ever. the screen is to die for!! I don't even look at my mda 3 screen anymore lol. makes me cry haha
There is no other phone/mda right now which has such great working wifi and a vga screen.
This is a phone/pda for someone who loves to have a mini tablet pc with phone function.
How can you compare this with a blackberry? LMAO got stocks in that company? LOL Do blackberry's have vga screens? hahaha the Universal is a PC and that is what we love!!
Anyway.. the universal is here to stay and is the market leader.. and it certainly helps in keeping development going forward!!
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I have a JJ and the call quality has been good (and video calling works okay). There are problems with WM5 (but M$ has never been in the business to produce quality software!). But for me, as a Nokia 9500 user, is the lack of proper phone functions in WM5 that is surprising.
The performance will improve if you turn off the error reporting. But I am still surprised how slow the device is compared to my Treo 650, which only has a 312Mhz processor and has persistent memory.
Like all these devices reviews etc are available so perhaps people should do a bit more research before they buy one?
ehhh
that is like comparing Apples to Oranges.
Just don't buy a MS device if you don't like them! I also have a spv c550, great phone but loads of probs with that new 230pix screen and tomtom5 haha, but still i love it.
nokia, SE p910i and treo are symbian phones and have their own limitations and mishaps. :twisted: had them all and never liked their restricted GUI.
Nagging we all can, i just love it that we have windows based phones and pda's and will certainly keep buying them. And so will a large group of followers hehe
http://my-symbian.com/forum/ should be the place for you ahhaha
I agree, i had all the nokia 9000 series phones and loved them but I use the excel and the symbian software slaughters excel and the Nokia 9500 could not even handle the transfer of excel files to computer when I bought one and the place I bought it from "Techoni Mobile Phones Australia" said wait for an update from Nokia when I rang and said I wanted my money back as I said to them that they sold me a product that doesn't do as advertised. I will never buy off that company again. The JJ / Exec is an incredible phone/PDA.
Er..I was trying to say the JJ is okay for me...even though it is not complete. I use all types of devices I have no preference I just want something that helps me do things better. I agree about the Nokia word/excel issues, Nokia were silly about this.
Edit: @dvl, the Treo is not Symbian and next there will be a WM5 version of the Treo released. M$ are really pleased with the Treo WM5 as they recognise the hardware is designed well and M$ have had help from Palm to improve the UI.
are all tomtom related issues not a matter of tomtom's software not being 2005 friendly or buggy ?
hehe
You are right, treo is palm, hehe but kinda similar to symbian..
but you made a true statement.. I LOVE THE TREO600/650's feel, touch and looks. And now that they come with WM5 in it i will certainly by that phone.. No doubt about it. And it will be a market leader when it comes out.
ALthough it will not be a Universal.. hehe
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hi
i tend to disagree ...ive had my universal for almost 2 months now.. and have no problems with it... connecivity wise or hinge wise
the only thing disappointing me till now (its not related to universal) is that while some devs have updated their softwares most have not yet done so or havent released a fully stable version for wm5
I'm using JJ for the last one month and I have no problem with it at all.
At the beginning I used to experience some troubles with the low speed of the device but after a while, I made some changes to the settings of the JJ and everyting is working fine now.
I think that JJ is having everyting I need and much more.
Still there are some issues to be resolved like the Video full screen play back and other issues, but in General it is the best PDA I have ever used.
Regards,
Hi all,
I have an XDA exec, and am looking to change it for a Wizard. How much difference (if any) is there in the speed of these devices, as I understand the Wizard doesn't use an Intel processor it uses Texas Instruments.
Does this mean having to get different binaries ? or do ARM ones still work ?
How do these devices compare... any thoughts appreciated.
Cheers
Well i had an exec and made the exact same decision as you are thinking of making. I have no regrets believe me. First and foremost the phone part works brilliantly, secondly it seems faster to me than the exec, you dont look like a tit when you answer it and it doesnt weigh a ton.
Things i miss:-
VGA Screen
3g Data speed
Nicer keyboard
Things i dont miss:-
Useless phone
Slow speed
Weighty
Large and hard to use
Any more questions just ask
Chris
chrissyboy6969 said:
Well i had an exec and made the exact same decision as you are thinking of making. I have no regrets believe me. First and foremost the phone part works brilliantly, secondly it seems faster to me than the exec, you dont look like a tit when you answer it and it doesnt weigh a ton.
Things i miss:-
VGA Screen
3g Data speed
Nicer keyboard
Things i dont miss:-
Useless phone
Slow speed
Weighty
Large and hard to use
Any more questions just ask
Chris
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Phew, glad it's working out for you Chris!
I switched too...
I had an exec and now I HAVE A WIZARD... I will never look back. I miss the VGA screen but that's about it.
Cyb
Have both but going to sell my exec.
Again will only miss the beautiful VGA screen.
Would O2 do a straight swap for the wizard (xda mini) or did you guys buy and sell yours privately ?
EDIT: Only within the first 14 days
Anyone wanna swap a XDA exec, bought in october 2005 for a xda mini (wizard) in black.
PM me if interested
Thanks for the responses gents, seems like a unanimous decision all round to me
Just to uphold the concensus ...
I got the Exec first , then an MDA Vario
I must say I agree with all that is said so far , the only downside is the size of the screen and the lack of 3G (no big deal IMO ) But in it's (the vario's) favour , it is a much better PHONE than the Exec , and I do need my device to be able to function as a phone as well as making the tea etc.
I am a bit gutted , as I loved the Exec , and feel sad that the Vario has rendered it almost obsolete (for my needs , at least)
Tried to sell the Exec on Ebay , but had a bit of trouble - and to be honest I was quite pleased , as I don't REALLY want to sell it :? , but can't really justify keeping it either !
I could have written that post!
I have the O2 mini and Exec. Why? Well I got the Exec through my work when upgrading and I got the mini for myself as it looked agreat bit of kit. Have had both for about three weeks.
Guess what is sitting there not getting used - the Exec!!! Sure it has a great screen and the keyboard is a flashback to the Psion 5 but for sheer convenience it has to the the mini - excellent (not fantastic a an actual phone but a great all rounder).
It will be inetresting what will be out this time next year!
Anyone want an Exec?
I have to agree with everything above. I had an Universal for about 6 weeks and loved it, however, I did find it totally unpractical as an everyday phone and ended up diverting calls to an old Nokia, which sort of defeated the object!! I then saw a K-Jam in PC World and it was love at first sight Got a fantastic deal from T-Mob (Vario) and have never looked back. I think the Universal is a great bit of kit but the Wizard does it for me every time
I am about to take a leap into smartphones. I want to mainly use the phone for calendar/contact/notes, internet browsing using my home WiFi, some light music/video, very little (none) messaging or using the data from AT&T GPRS/G3.
I was looking at Blackberry, iPhone, other WM devices, and the TyTN and TyTN II appeal most to me. However, I am hesitant to spend ~$450 on eBay for the latest version when I can pick up a used Hermes for ~$250. Since it's my first PDA phone, I am not sure yet how exactly I am going to be using it, so don't want to spend more than I have to. Also, I heard of TyTN II's hardware/software insufficiencies.
Basically, I am asking if getting a Hermes now is too late in terms of support for it drying up, and units available older, or does it make sense?
This site is one reason I am considering HTC since it looks like there are tons of resourses out here.
trade67 said:
I am about to take a leap into smartphones. I want to mainly use the phone for calendar/contact/notes, internet browsing using my home WiFi, some light music/video, very little (none) messaging or using the data from AT&T GPRS/G3.
I was looking at Blackberry, iPhone, other WM devices, and the TyTN and TyTN II appeal most to me. However, I am hesitant to spend ~$450 on eBay for the latest version when I can pick up a used Hermes for ~$250. Since it's my first PDA phone, I am not sure yet how exactly I am going to be using it, so don't want to spend more than I have to. Also, I heard of TyTN II's hardware/software insufficiencies.
Basically, I am asking if getting a Hermes now is too late in terms of support for it drying up, and units available older, or does it make sense?
This site is one reason I am considering HTC since it looks like there are tons of resourses out here.
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There is TONS of support for the Hermes dude, the Kaiser (TyTN II) is also a good device but if you are put off by the video driver issues and some of the other foibles it has then the Hermes should do you fine.
Dont be put off by the lower RAM size and etc....I believe for the beginner the Hermes is still a great starting point, you should learn alot about WM devices from it.
Before you buy do make sure the device is fully working and is not a half-bricked device since if the whole thing works fine you can customize it as much or as little as you wish.
trade67 said:
I am about to take a leap into smartphones. I want to mainly use the phone for calendar/contact/notes, internet browsing using my home WiFi, some light music/video, very little (none) messaging or using the data from AT&T GPRS/G3.
I was looking at Blackberry, iPhone, other WM devices, and the TyTN and TyTN II appeal most to me. However, I am hesitant to spend ~$450 on eBay for the latest version when I can pick up a used Hermes for ~$250. Since it's my first PDA phone, I am not sure yet how exactly I am going to be using it, so don't want to spend more than I have to. Also, I heard of TyTN II's hardware/software insufficiencies.
Basically, I am asking if getting a Hermes now is too late in terms of support for it drying up, and units available older, or does it make sense?
This site is one reason I am considering HTC since it looks like there are tons of resourses out here.
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hi trade!
i have been in your boat i took a bigger leep from the sony ericsson p990i to the hermes and can i say..... thats got to be the best leap ive took....there is endless support for the hermes... the TyTN 2 is very nice aswell but i do think there is a bit of a disign fault with it!... if it has a flip screen and u want to sit it down y put the speaker underneath?
but we all make mistakes
bottom line is yes i recromend upgrading to hermes!
Westie277 said:
hi trade!
i have been in your boat i took a bigger leep from the sony ericsson p990i to the hermes and can i say..... thats got to be the best leap ive took....there is endless support for the hermes... the TyTN 2 is very nice aswell but i do think there is a bit of a disign fault with it!... if it has a flip screen and u want to sit it down y put the speaker underneath?
but we all make mistakes
bottom line is yes i recromend upgrading to hermes!
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Yep, I made the leap from a SE P900......old skool
hmm.... the p990i was the underdog... people seemed to like its older brothers more....
im looking into getting a o2 cocoon....
im a student and taking a valuable phone (in my view) to school... I dont like
but i love flashing the brillient software like S2P and S2U2 (really annoys thouse who spent a bit on the ipod touch )
but yeah... i love the cocoons exterior hidden LED display
WM rules!
Thanks for the replies, everybody!
I am geting closer to the decision. I am basically trying to combine my old Sony PDA's and Siemens phone's features and also take advantage of some of the new technologies like BT and WiFi. I just want something reliable that performs its main functions well, not necessarily the "next best thing". Sounds like Hermes is a good device for that, while having potential for going far beyond.
Well the hermes is very reliable.... just aslong as you dont upload it with a dodgy ROM
and i hope too see you around the hermes fourms!
Hermes is a great windows mobile PPC...highly recommended! good luck!
Made the plunge! Just got a used one on ebay for $250.
Quick question: is it possible to sync PIMs with Outlook at home and Notes at work (I am not allowed to install Outlook at work, and most of the input to my calendar I do there)? I apologize if it is not the right forum for this question.
trade67 said:
Made the plunge! Just got a used one on ebay for $250.
Quick question: is it possible to sync PIMs with Outlook at home and Notes at work (I am not allowed to install Outlook at work, and most of the input to my calendar I do there)? I apologize if it is not the right forum for this question.
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Best thing to do is to use an exchange account (quite easily found and cheap) so you can edit your calendar and tasks etc... using the web based outlook interface both at home and at work.
Plus its best to use an exchange account if you dont fancy re-entering your contacts etc...
mrvanx, thanks for the tip. I will definetly give mail2web a try. I've never even known what an exchange account is, but am reading up on it now.
I still don't want to use any data plans to access my email, so I guess the main advantage of the exchange account is the ability to sync everything through the web and consistent interface. I guess I would use WiFi to sync it to the 8525?
Please, forgive all the newbie questions, I've never dealt with a PDA phone before.
I've been making my way up thro' the ranks too.
Palm - Clie - Loox - Wizard - Hermes.
I'm waiting for my Hermes to arrive, bought it 30 mins ago from the 'bay for £50ish ($100ish) - but I have plenty of experience flashing the Wizard - HTC have done a great job on these platforms.....
Take that step.
Ok guys, sorry I have been M.I.A. on the forums, but Medical school caught up with me and my Blackstone. After using it for a month, I decided to use the phone that I received from T-Mobile "Samsung Behold" and got used to the little device, thus I havent used my blackstone for a while. Now, it has come to my attention, that I may be possibly wanting to sell my Blackstone for the money due to my financial situation right now. I would be selling it with 3 cases and a pack of stylus, but that is beside the point right now. I have been looking around at the juicy phones coming out and the Samsung Omnia caught my attention. Granted I would have to import it once again, what exactly is the difference between the Omnia and HD? I will wait for the G2 to come out and check it out and, if I have the money, may look into the Omnia. Any advice from you all is always appreciated. I would wait for the Huawei G3, but nothing concrete has come up lately.
just google for a comparison. like this
I got both phones.
The biggest difference that will hit you after you hold both in your hands is the quality of the phones. The resolution of the HD makes the Omnia look like a ancient phone.
The screen is obviously smaller but even the WQVGA can't improve the look of the screen.
You will run into more stuck pixel problems with the Omnia, i held 2 different Omnias in my hand and both had more than 5 stuck pixels each.
The fact that 3.5mm doesn't exist will piss you off initially but you will probably get used to it. I simply can't stand it though, i prefer the freedom of having the 3.5mm. The other reason that the USB connection for the PC is the same as the headphone port, in other words, it's all proprietary will probably peeve you off a bit.
Other than that, be sure to be shocked at the difference in quality (not phone quality but display quality).
It's close to half the price though, so big choices.
Ok thanks guys for the info. I think what I will do, I go to a verizon wireless store and mess with the Omnia there. Since the Gsm version that would have to be imported is the same as the CDMA version here in the U.S., it should give me an easy comparison
Had an Omnia for 5 months!!!
What a peice of junk.
TomTom dosn't run properly without 3rd party apps.
Yhe screen is rubbish, slightest bit of muck and its got a scratch.
Wireless functions, including WiFi, GSM, GPRS etc are crap. I never held a connection on my wifi at home for more than 30 seconds (and no theres nothing wrong with my router)
Best thing I did was swap it for a Blackstone.
It Just works, what more can I say
Don't buy the Omnia, stick with the Blackstone. IMHO its the best phone on the market at this time
Alchopop
Thanks guys for the opinions, thats why I love this place lol. I'm am out of town right now, but when I get back, I will swing by a Verizon shop and play with the Omnia for a while. Please keep the opinions coming
Hi,
I am thinking of getting one of these for my girlfriends Xmas but would be getting it on a tariff without a data plan, relying on wi-fi for any data requirements. We were in the orange shop briefly - so i could sneakily test the water as to which phones she likes! - She likes the look of the Tattoo and loves the idea of custom cases (her idea of a good phone is very superficial! ) but hasn't used a smartphone for any longer than 10 minutes. She doesn't like WinMo because it is very straight-laced and business orientated. I played with a hero in the orange shop and found it a pleasure to use but i have been using smartphones for a few years now.
I have a couple of questions :
Will the Tattoo be usable/of any use without a data plan? What will work? what doesn't?
How easy is Android to use for a complete beginner to smartphones? She currently has a Samsung D600 (which she loves). Is she going to struggle to use basic functions?
Cheers,
I have my Tattoo since last Friday and I really like it. I had a HTC Elf (Touch) before with WinMo - the Android platform is great, you can't compare these two. Not only is WinMo business orientated, it's simply a pocet computer which also can make phone calls. The touch screen is nearly useless - as soon as you leave the home screen you'll need your pen cause nearly all the buttons are too small for your finger tips.
I like the customizing of Android, I can set up my home screen fast and easy as I like, it's a really great phone for individualists. And also for beginners :c) It has no pen cause you won't need it.
But I think it won't be that much fun without a data plan/flatrate. It has connectivity at every edge, your contacts can get linked to Facebook & Flickr and so on. Without permanent connectivity you will still have a very good phone but you'll surely feel caged. The GPS will be pretty useless cause it's using Google Maps. You won't get your Gmails or other Mails, only when connected. I love Last.fm radio when I'm outside.
By now, that's all I can think of, I have the phone only for 3 days by now.
All in all the phone is as easy or as complicated as YOU like. It's great using it.
ATM there are only few apps in the Market cause the phone has Android 1.6 & only QVGA (240x320 px). But in the last few days there were around 40 new apps added/updated to support the Tattoo.
If you don't want to spend the money for a Hero and want a pricey Android phone the Tattoo is really a good buy.
Agreed with the above, great phone but would be greatly limited by lack of data. If going with Orange, you can get the internet bundle chucked in for free for the first two months I think, so see if she does use it, if so keep it on for £4.89 a month extra, if not, ditch it and she's still got an awesome phone.