Hi,
I've now had my Universal for a couple of weeks and am disappointed at how badly implemented the comms side of things are.
Having wireless switched on all of the time eats up the batteries in hours so I am surprised that nobody has come up with some sort of comms manager to switch on Wireless access when it is required for things like picking up email, browsing, etc and then turn it off when not required.
Ok the switch off is handled, but not the auto connection side of things.
It would also be handy to have profiles so that when in a wireless area the phone automatically check mail on one schedule and then when out and about on on GPRS or 3G there is another profile that perhaps only picks up email for key accounts and also less often.
What do you think?
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How to stop my wizard\Qtek 9100 from dialing while I am connecting to wi-fi?
I was testing my wireless the other day and evey time I did a search on internet explorer it seemed to be connecting to my net work provider.
Do I need to do something when I am using my wi-fi so it dos not connect both to wi-fi and to my network provider?
And can I down load Skype for my phone? And dos it work well, is it worth doing if I can?
if some one come back to me THANKS
Lucky for you, ive been working on this lately and just figured it out. Here's how to eliminate your wizard's annoying attempts to connect to services that you don't have.
Disclaimer: this will work for sure only on WM5, and ONLY IF YOU USE WI-FI AS YOUR SOLE SOURCE OF WIRELESS INTERNET CONNECTIVITY. it is not intended for those excessively wealthy folks who actually have $40 a month to blow on a ****ty, 56k-esque GPRS/Edge connection from their cell service provider, and almost certainly will cause lots of problems if you do decide to get this service in the future.
1. Go to settings, then connections, then connections again (there's a connections submenu in the connections menu)
2. Tap the advanced tab at the bottom of the screen
3. Hit the select networks button
4. Go to one of the drop-down menus, it doesn't matter which one
5. Pick the first connection, hit edit.
6. Hold the stylus down on each entry you see then select delete
7. Hit ok, repeat steps 4-6 for each and every connection listed.
Now your phone won't have any connections besides wi-fi configured, which means it won't try to fall back on them and annoy the hell out of you whenever your wi-fi drops.
Also, get a different browser, Opera or NetFront work well. PPC internet explorer keeps you from viewing the real version of web pages and limits you to the cruddy PPC versions (if they exist at all)
pee said:
Lucky for you, ive been working on this lately and just figured it out. Here's how to eliminate your wizard's annoying attempts to connect to services that you don't have.
Disclaimer: this will work for sure only on WM5, and ONLY IF YOU USE WI-FI AS YOUR SOLE SOURCE OF WIRELESS INTERNET CONNECTIVITY. it is not intended for those excessively wealthy folks who actually have $40 a month to blow on a ****ty, 56k-esque GPRS/Edge connection from their cell service provider, and almost certainly will cause lots of problems if you do decide to get this service in the future.
1. Go to settings, then connections, then connections again (there's a connections submenu in the connections menu)
2. Tap the advanced tab at the bottom of the screen
3. Hit the select networks button
4. Go to one of the drop-down menus, it doesn't matter which one
5. Pick the first connection, hit edit.
6. Hold the stylus down on each entry you see then select delete
7. Hit ok, repeat steps 4-6 for each and every connection listed.
Now your phone won't have any connections besides wi-fi configured, which means it won't try to fall back on them and annoy the hell out of you whenever your wi-fi drops.
Also, get a different browser, Opera or NetFront work well. PPC internet explorer keeps you from viewing the real version of web pages and limits you to the cruddy PPC versions (if they exist at all)
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All I can say is that with diagnostic skills like that thank God your not a doctor!!
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I had a similar problem over the Cristmas period where even though I had a good WiFi connection my Wizard insisted on trying dial up a GPRS connection (even though it is set as always on). I never got to the bottom of it as I decided to give Faria's 3.2 ROM a try. It has never happened since.
With regards to the Skype thing, if you go to skype.com there is a model specific download for one of the Wizard variations I can't remember which one it is but you will recognise it when you see it. It works a treat when I am on WiFi and most of the time with Edge but it only works with the headfones connected otherwise the sound comes out of the main speaker.
When I'm in the house (and assuming I've got the wifi switched on on the Tytn 2), how do I get it to use the Wifi to access the Web as a first option?
Even when its connected to my wireless LAN (which it does with no problems at all - much better than my old Wizzard), if I launch Explorer it automatically makes a GPRS connection. The only way to force it to use the Wifi seems to be to turn the Phone off in the comm manager - which then means I can't receive any calls.
I can't find any setting that dicates the network hierachy i.e. that says if there is a Wireless LAN connection then don't bother with GPRS, or if there isn't, then use GPRS.
I seem to recall there was something similar on desktop Windoze where you could have it automatically use a dial up connection if there was no LAN available.
Can anyone help?
Iain.m said:
When I'm in the house (and assuming I've got the wifi switched on on the Tytn 2), how do I get it to use the Wifi to access the Web as a first option?
Even when its connected to my wireless LAN (which it does with no problems at all - much better than my old Wizzard), if I launch Explorer it automatically makes a GPRS connection. The only way to force it to use the Wifi seems to be to turn the Phone off in the comm manager - which then means I can't receive any calls.
I can't find any setting that dicates the network hierachy i.e. that says if there is a Wireless LAN connection then don't bother with GPRS, or if there isn't, then use GPRS.
I seem to recall there was something similar on desktop Windoze where you could have it automatically use a dial up connection if there was no LAN available.
Can anyone help?
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I'm now getting the same thing using Emoze - the thing is sitting here connected to the Wifi & will sync mail & contacts etc over the wifi quite happily - but as soon as I try & send mail from the handheld it starts up not one but two GPRS connections (!) Much the same as if I try & get a web page up - it automatically goes to GPRS as its default route to the internet despite that fact that its already connected via wifi & the only way to stop this behaviour seems to be to switch the phone off in Comm Manager.
Seems to be something inherrantly odd about the way the Tytn 2 is deciding what network connection is available & which it should use. It looks like it needs a little control application to sit between the IP stack & the hardware so that when a request comes it can be routed according to user preference - i.e. Use WIfi if available, Only use GPRS etc The Wifi doesn't seem to fire up a connection when it feels like it - only the GPRS. Do all the HTC devices with WIfi behave this way?
In the meantime, does anyone know of a simple way to turn off/disable GPRS without disabling the phone?
WHile I have plenty of GPRS data allowance in my package when I'm in the house at my desk (or anywhere else I can get a wifi connection) I'd rather it just used the Wifi to sync itself or if I decided call up a web page.
Besides, it interferes with the hi-fi speakers in my study with that annoying buzzing noise everytime the GPRS gets busy.
I.
Hi guys,
I use 3 different wifi networks during the course of a day, well 2 a day, 3 through out the week probably. Home/Work/Friends house
I have a very small data package (5mb) so i am very choosy about when I use my data connection!
Anyways, did some testing.
I already know that if I have no wifi, no data connection on, then I try and start outlook or Internet Explorer, then my data connection starts up (as it should)
now if i have my data connection on, then i turn on wifi on the phone, the wifi connection takes over and the data connection is not being used, even though it's on.
I also have no problems with when wifi is on and data is off, and if i goto outlook or IE, that gprs decides to go on. this does not happen tome (unless for some strange reason wifi cuts out, gprs tries to take over)
So i dont know if its something with your settings or not, maybe your phone goes to sleep and wifi turns off then gprs takes over, or i could be misunderstanding your question, because now that I think about it, perhaps you are asking something like..
- at home no wifi or data connection is active at that moment
- you navigate to a page in IE and instead of gprs turning on, wifi turns on/scans for lan and uses that
Yeah, that's probably waht you are asking.. haha yahoo for long winded useless post
If you figure it out, i want to know! lol
Iain.m said:
I'm now getting the same thing using Emoze - the thing is sitting here connected to the Wifi & will sync mail & contacts etc over the wifi quite happily - but as soon as I try & send mail from the handheld it starts up not one but two GPRS connections (!) Much the same as if I try & get a web page up - it automatically goes to GPRS as its default route to the internet despite that fact that its already connected via wifi & the only way to stop this behaviour seems to be to switch the phone off in Comm Manager.
Seems to be something inherrantly odd about the way the Tytn 2 is deciding what network connection is available & which it should use. It looks like it needs a little control application to sit between the IP stack & the hardware so that when a request comes it can be routed according to user preference - i.e. Use WIfi if available, Only use GPRS etc The Wifi doesn't seem to fire up a connection when it feels like it - only the GPRS. Do all the HTC devices with WIfi behave this way?
In the meantime, does anyone know of a simple way to turn off/disable GPRS without disabling the phone?
WHile I have plenty of GPRS data allowance in my package when I'm in the house at my desk (or anywhere else I can get a wifi connection) I'd rather it just used the Wifi to sync itself or if I decided call up a web page.
Besides, it interferes with the hi-fi speakers in my study with that annoying buzzing noise everytime the GPRS gets busy.
I.
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You should be able to use the comm manager to turn off the data connection, but as for keeping it off permanently, until you decide you want it to be even allowed to be active again maybe you can try this, it should disable your connection until you see fit.
http://www.modaco.com/content/Pocket-PC-Software/246171/New-FREE-Utility/
briggs81 said:
You should be able to use the comm manager to turn off the data connection, but as for keeping it off permanently, until you decide you want it to be even allowed to be active again maybe you can try this, it should disable your connection until you see fit.
http://www.modaco.com/content/Pocket-PC-Software/246171/New-FREE-Utility/
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Great little utility , thanks very much for pointing that out - it at least allows me to do what I want manually - i.e. use my wifi without having to turn the phone off.
Although I know you can disconnect GPRS from the Comm manager, it also doesn't seem to have an idle time out so once an application (like Emoze) has started it up it keeps running in the background. Also, as soon as you turn it off, inevitably Emoze turns it straight back on! The NoData application gives much more control so thanks for that.
I do go abroad reasonably often so also happy to be able to use it for its primary purpose of disabling GPRS whilst roaming to avoid silly charges
It would be great if HTC could build a bit more intelligence and control into the network side of these things though.
I.
You may want to look into Schaps Advanced Config or KaiserTweak for wifi/gprs settings.
You can set timers and disconnects, etc, with those applications.
Iain.m said:
When I'm in the house (and assuming I've got the wifi switched on on the Tytn 2), how do I get it to use the Wifi to access the Web as a first option?
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The Good News: I fixed this behavior on the phone w/o any 3rd-party utilities, etc.
The Bad News: I'm not 100% sure how. :-/ My apologies. Here is what I think did it:
Make sure your browser is closed and you have no open data connections.
1- Open the Wireless Manager and make sure "WLAN" is on and "Data Connection" is off.
2- Go to Start>Settings and choose the "Connections" tab along the bottom.
3- Open "Wireless LAN," choose your home wireless network, and make sure you're actively connected to it (should see a signal quality meter, device network settings, etc).
4- Close "Wireless LAN" and while "Settings" is still open and on the "Connections" tab, open "Wi-Fi." Your list of known Wi-Fi networks should be showing: make sure your home network says "connected."
5- Close everything back out to your "Today" screen.
When my Tilt is set this way -- and actively connected to my WLAN -- the Wireless Manager grays out "Data Connections" and doesn't even respond if I tap the icon. IE automatically uses my WLAN, although it won't connect to some of its pre-loaded favs b/c, I think, they're on WAP servers and the Wi-Fi/NAT router assigns/negotiates TCP/IP protocols for your phone.
I think now I accomplish all the above by simply opening the keyboard and pressing the FN/Wi-Fi key.
FYI -- In truth, I solved this problem by installing Opera Mobile and setting it as my default browser. Opera Mobile is a full browser, i.e. doesn't use WAP.
Hope this helps. If not, sorry for this 5 minutes of your life you'll never get back. :-/
gT
Hi!
I was playing around with my friends Nokia E71 and was amased by how easily it handeld connections, with WIFI off i choose to reciever new e-mails, in a flash the phone started the WIFI and let me choose between available WIFI networks or if i wanted to use the 3G. After i downloaded the new e-mails the phone automatically turned of the WIFI...
On my X1 on the other hand i have to go to the comm manager turn on wifi press another button to choose between different routers, go to the e-mail press update, and when it's done i have to turn the wifi off again.
Is there any solution for getting my phone more like a nokia
I would like to choose connection before the phone automatically connects to 3G, and also that it automatically starts wifi scan and turns it of when I'm done.
If not is there anyway I can adjust which connections are allowed? Because right now I'm traveling in USA and I have a prepaid card, so i don't want to use 3G for getting my e-mails or go surfing, I know that if i'm connected to WIFI it doesn't connect to 3G but in the crappy hotels I'm living in the WIFI comes and goes and sometimes my phones jump over to 3G...
/Fredrik
As for your second question regarding adjusting which connections are allowed, I use an application called NoData. It allows you to toggle the connections. It's a good way to save yourself from going over your telecom-plan.
Hi guys,
I have recently moved from symbian platform to WinMo. I do have a question regarding data connection. Does it ever auto disconnects? (for example in my old N95 if I clicked sync in my mail application, the phone would connect, download new mail and then auto disconnect when the job was done)
Also the phone would disconnect from data connection after closing app that was using it.
Now with my HD2 when I sync email, refresh weather etc the data connection stays on. Do I have to disconnect it manualy every single time so it doesnt drain my battery? It is very annoying since I have to do it manually very often.
Please advise... maybe I am missing something...
Cheers
Pete
Hi,
There's a few threads on here on data connection disconnection. There is also a hints & tips thread right at the top of this page.
Use this tool to find what you are looking for..http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:http://forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all
WB
install the 1 min disconnect tweak thats on this forum.
if you only set emails to check automatically it will disconnect ok using the above tweak but if you have weather and/or twitter apps connecting to update for some reason it will not close the connection at all i have told htc but never heard back
The only real reason for disconnecting a data connection is if you want to prevent unwanted costs associated with data exchange.
If you're in a weak signal area you can save battery by switching the connection band to GSM rather than 3G, but in a strong signal, 3G is more power efficient.
An open, but quiescent data connection has little or no effect on battery life as it's simply using the network infrastructure; battery usage only occurs during actual data exchange. So, if you turn off all the auto-update features and set email polling to a longer interval you should be OK. Kind of defeats the purpose of the device though
NeilM said:
The only real reason for disconnecting a data connection is if you want to prevent unwanted costs associated with data exchange.
If you're in a weak signal area you can save battery by switching the connection band to GSM rather than 3G, but in a strong signal, 3G is more power efficient.
An open, but quiescent data connection has little or no effect on battery life as it's simply using the network infrastructure; battery usage only occurs during actual data exchange. So, if you turn off all the auto-update features and set email polling to a longer interval you should be OK. Kind of defeats the purpose of the device though
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From my experience all Symbian devices and the iPhone auto disconnect from the network once the data connection is no longer needed. They also reconnect in the blink of an eye. It kind of irritates me that Windows Mobile doesn't allow you at least the OPTION of doing so. It's particularly annoying if you're connected to a speaker and can't get 3g as there's a constant noise going off. I also think it can't be great for your balls having that connection constantly active! It's not HTC's fault though, just I think a result of Windows Mobile being inherently quite archaic...perhaps Windows have just overlooked it.
There's a great free app HERE to tweak the WinMo connections for individual apps. It's a must have for me.
petexx said:
Hi guys,
I have recently moved from symbian platform to WinMo. I do have a question regarding data connection. Does it ever auto disconnects? (for example in my old N95 if I clicked sync in my mail application, the phone would connect, download new mail and then auto disconnect when the job was done)
Also the phone would disconnect from data connection after closing app that was using it.
Now with my HD2 when I sync email, refresh weather etc the data connection stays on. Do I have to disconnect it manualy every single time so it doesnt drain my battery? It is very annoying since I have to do it manually very often.
Please advise... maybe I am missing something...
Cheers
Pete
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This really isn't a problem, I've seen N95's that retain their connection at all time (and some that don't) and to be honest it just makes your handset a little quicker.
WMLongLife is the nuts. You need it.
Thanks for the link, I pay per minute on my connection (rather than data transferred) so an open connection is not good for my bank balance
Hi There!
I am not sure if what I want is feasible or if I can even explain it in such a way as to make sense.. Hopefully so..
I currently use 3G for all my data requirements, which is very expensive. I have everything except activesync configured to work on demand. I would prefer to use Wifi as 90% of the time I am at home or at the office where I have wireless. However traditionally I have found being connected to wireless to drain the battery horrendously and so essentially what I want is this:
If a data connection is required, it will seek out my 2 preconfigured wireless networks, and if it can find either, it will connect, send/recieve the data, and then disconnect.
If it can't find either, it should prompt me to connect to my 3G Internet connection.
It would be ideal if I could even say.. activesync.exe is ok to use 3g, if no wireless networks are in range, but nothing else unless I allow it.
Is this possible?
a possibility?
You could try a profile changer and possibly also combine that with some data switching/auto-disconnect/time limiting apps.
I’m using Phoneweaver for the profiles (http://www.sbsh.net/products/windows_mobile_pocket_pc/phoneweaver). It can be configured to location, time, manual or other triggers and can turn things on and off dependant on which profile is active, and I think you can set some settings to be time limited. Not free, but good.
There are some threads on the HD2 themes and apps sub forum which are talk about others.