Hello people,
Have anyone used Skype on mini? Mini doesn't have 3G and skype requires it i think. Have you tried? Which version did you download from?
Regards
Carty..
Skype does not require 3g. It works with wifi or BT. I don't have a wifi card but I've already played around with BT and is quitke good.
Hi,
Fine, let me try with gprs. Which version of skype is compatible with mini, can you please give me the link.
Thanx in advance.
Regards
Carty..
Skype
I tryed skipe with gprs and it works quite good! the quality is not the best but i cud understand my skipe contact... skype out was also quite good
Which version did you use? i couldn't find a version specific for mini. Only other devices like Dell, imate were there.
Thanx.
Regards
Carty..
I only tried it with their beta version. I uninstalled it because I don't have and don't want to buy a wifi card since soon I'll be replacing my S100.
i used the version for high speed cpus! you can download it from here:
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/mobile/download.html
I only tested it with gprs
Thanx you guys!
Regards
Carty..
www.CartyStudios.com
is it possible to run skype for ppc over a https proxy like the bigger brother for pc?
because i only have web and email on my ppc
Carty said:
Hello people,
Have anyone used Skype on mini? Mini doesn't have 3G and skype requires it i think. Have you tried? Which version did you download from?
Regards
Carty..
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mast use wifi.
handyfanat said:
I tryed skipe with gprs and it works quite good! the quality is not the best but i cud understand my skipe contact... skype out was also quite good
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Sorry to say that but that's bull****. Skype runs well via WiFi or 3G. GPRS only offers 56kbps, that is by far not enough bandiwth for voice. You can chat via GPRS, but no voice.
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handyfanat said:
I tryed skipe with gprs and it works quite good! the quality is not the best but i cud understand my skipe contact... skype out was also quite good
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Sorry to say that but that's bull****. Skype runs well via WiFi or 3G. GPRS only offers 56kbps, that is by far not enough bandiwth for voice. You can chat via GPRS, but no voice.
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That's true. Even If U'll switch to 4downling and 1 uplink U can barelly undestand your partner and with 1 uplink he will understand nothing. For skype U need at last 5 kB uplink and 5 kB downling - its impossible to get with GPRS.
You guys might need to get updated! Skype works well with my poor gprs connection even for voice! My gprs gives a transfer rate of an average 3kbps. The quality of the voice is like telephone clearity! I just used it for skype-out, a call to a land line number!
Regards
Carty..
@Carty: That's absolute bull****.
It doesn't even work smooth with bluetooth ~30kb/s.
Carty said:
You guys might need to get updated! Skype works well with my poor gprs connection even for voice! My gprs gives a transfer rate of an average 3kbps. The quality of the voice is like telephone clearity! I just used it for skype-out, a call to a land line number!
Regards
Carty..
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Get real! Magician offers 2 GPRS modes: 3-2 and 4-1 (where 4-1 means that 4 of 5 slots avaiable are used for download and 1 slot for upload. For skype U need 5 kB uplink and 5 kB downlink and there's no way to get it with 4-1 where U have max 4kB downlink (u should barelly undestand UR partner) and 1kB (sic!) uplink (theres no way that U will be understood). 3kB down and 2kB up in 3-2 GPRS mode is pretty useless too...
Point is that Skype need much more bandwidth than standard VoIP software so U can try one of many other VoiP communicators and U may be succesfull.
^ Um, that isn't the correct way to gague your GPRS ability - 1 slot != 1kB. If you're getting only like 3-5kB, it's because of reception or operator restrictions, NOT slot limit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Packet_Radio_Service for a general idea of the GPRS standard.
^ Um, that isn't the correct way to gague your GPRS ability - 1 slot != 1kB. If you're getting only like 3-5kB, it's because of reception or operator restrictions, NOT slot limit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Packet_Radio_Service for a general idea of the GPRS standard.
Related
I currently have an O2 XDA2s and am considering switching to the Wizard for the larger, more legible keyboard (who at O2 came up with the idea of pairing a blue backlight with turquoise special characters on the xda2s keyboard!!?), a higher resolution camera and what I hope will be (based on reading the Magician Forum) a better overall integration of features.
I use my device for business and so receive a lot of "real time" e-mail via our GoodLink service and do a fair amount of teleconferencing.
One of the limitations of the current collection of devices is that when yu are on the phone, no e-mails are received. As soon as you hang up, they all start to download/ be pushed to the device.
In reading about the dula processor architecture on the Wizard, it raised the question of whether the Wizard would be capable in theroy, or better yet practice! :wink: of receiving and displaying an e-mail while you are on the phone..??
Does anyone know or care to offer an opinion?
Regards
Chris
If youre receiving the emails by GSM/ GPRS then while you are in a phonecall you wont be able to receive them... however, maybe if you can use WiFi simultaneously with GSM you might be able to.
Hi ShALLaX
Many thanks. That's the same as the Blue Angel then... Interesting idea about the wi fi connection though... I will try that and see if it works on my xda 2s. Will let you know.
Wonder if the Universal will have the capability, as it appears its using a separate 3G modum for data..?
Regards
chris
Well some good news here is that you can indeed send and receive e-mails via wi fi at the same time as being on the phone.
So the moral of the story is.... always do your teleconferences from Starbucks¡
Heheh, good job!
As far as I know...the GPRS class in both BlueAngel and Wizard supports calls and GPRS activity at the same time. But the GSM network you are connected to must allow it. None of the networks here in Norway allows it
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Hi t0flus
Thats very interesting... that must be why it does not work in the us either.... I will be interesting to see if the wizard behaves any differently. Will hopefully be able to try it out in a couple of weeks
Regards
chris
I can confirm that the Jam does this , as my TomTom GPS accepts calls while updating Traffic info over GPRS. Hope this helps.
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I can confirm that the Jam does this , as my TomTom GPS accepts calls while updating Traffic info over GPRS. Hope this helps.
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I think you experiencing a delayed reaction. The data must have been recieved before the call began, but was only rendered on the screen after the call was started.
The ability to receive data and use voice at the same time is dependent on the type of modem. In order to do it the device must have a class "A" modem. PPC Phone Edition devices use class"B" modems. Class "B" only allows one at a time, either voice or data.
Dave
Not sure, all I know is as part of the setup with TomTom 700 it asks you if you want to recieve calls and access Internet at the same time. I chose this option and it seems to work. Well I've had no problems yet.
wardy said:
Not sure, all I know is as part of the setup with TomTom 700 it asks you if you want to recieve calls and access Internet at the same time. I chose this option and it seems to work. Well I've had no problems yet.
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Here is a link that explains it. Scroll down till you see the explanation for class B. All Pocket PC Phone Edition devices that I know of use class B modems.
http://www.gsmworld.com/technology/gprs/class.shtml
Dave
cbrow51 said:
Hi t0flus
Thats very interesting... that must be why it does not work in the us either.... I will be interesting to see if the wizard behaves any differently. Will hopefully be able to try it out in a couple of weeks
Regards
chris
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Chris
No GSM Network in the world allows simultaneous GSM call and GPRS - the technology can't do it (at least what's in operation can't).
In UMTS land, you typically get allocated 128kbps of bandwidth... during a call, 64kbps is reserved for voice/video, and 64 is available for data download.
So to answer your question - yes in UMTS land, yes with wifi as the data bearer
Thanks Southern Man! Where have you been?... and where is that new O2 UK !.40 ROM with the Blackberry client for the xda2s? :wink:
Regards
Chris
Hi
i want try skype...
But what version i must download?
In the skype site i have found all pda Marches but not HTC.
Can i download ->other PPC->Skype per CPU 312 MHz???
thx
I downloaded the normal (>312Mhz) version and works fine on my TyTN.
i Pof
i'll try it..
But just another question it's important do this tweak
Get skype to work without overclocking and increase general Skype performance: "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Skype\Phone\Audio" Change "?DisableCodecs" to "ILBC G729 EG711U"
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??????
Thx
mmm... never heared of that. I checked my registry and I have the key but with empty value. YMMV but it runs just fine without any tweaks if you use the USB headset.
ok ill try without tewaks...
I would recommend this..
http://skype.com/download/skype/mobile/21beta.html
works just fine on my TyTN without any tweaks or so
Anyone know when it is going for full release?
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Anyone know when it is going for full release?
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Hi Chris,
Check the Skype page beginning of October.
Cheers,
StonyA
I installed Skype on my TyTn last night, and used it over wifi to call my Dad (just because I was bored and wanted to try it), I made no tweaks or changes and it works fine. I just chose Other Pocket PC and did an OTA install with the CAB file. Works great.
which skype brand - model for hermes
I took a guess and chose Dopod 700 version.
So far seems to work fine.
voice over EDGE sucks, but we knew that.
/PhM
one question from a future user:
- can i make voip calls with a BT connection with a PC?
tks
What do you mean by making VoIP calls with a BT conn with a PC?
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What do you mean by making VoIP calls with a BT conn with a PC?
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I mean, with a bluetoth connection to a PC is possible to make calls with skype or voipbuster?
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I mean, with a bluetoth connection to a PC is possible to make calls with skype or voipbuster?
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What would you be connecting to the bluetooth signal coming out of the pc?
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What would you be connecting to the bluetooth signal coming out of the pc?
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The HTC TyTN with SJphone or other.
I am considering buying this device in USA and go with the 3G network offered by Cingular. Anyone her ein the US thta has experimented this phone already and verified that the 3G is working and that the video calls are working too? Please let me know... Thank you, Paul.
Hi. You really should search before asking questions (this one has been answered many times)...
Yes, there's 3G available in many metropolitan areas with Cingular, and it works great (depends where you live though).
No, you can't use VideoCalling (Cingular doesn't support it).
G3 and video calls...
Sorry! However I researched using "3G and video calls usa" in several combinations but did not get any info. HOwever, I just got the Loox t830 and I am sending it back because the UMST doesnt work here in usa. but at this point I understand that any phone would not work. And anyway the customer services of Cingular told me that it would, but of course I don't believe them.... Thank you for your answer!!
830 is UMTS 2100 only .. so it's 3G wont work in the US .. Same prob with SE P990i ..
For the US, you need UMTS 850/1900 atleast ..
3G works fine on it, but you'll run into the problem that the connection speed is almost TOO fast for the browser. The high speed is really only good for stuff like Skype or other VOIP app's. Downloads are of course fast, but your day to day browsing doesn't speed up much, no matter which browser you try.
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3G works fine on it, but you'll run into the problem that the connection speed is almost TOO fast for the browser. The high speed is really only good for stuff like Skype or other VOIP app's. Downloads are of course fast, but your day to day browsing doesn't speed up much, no matter which browser you try.
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did you try video calls?
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did you try video calls?
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Cingular does not support video calls at this moment
ScottC said:
3G works fine on it, but you'll run into the problem that the connection speed is almost TOO fast for the browser. The high speed is really only good for stuff like Skype or other VOIP app's. Downloads are of course fast, but your day to day browsing doesn't speed up much, no matter which browser you try.
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This is very interesting. I have a question for you and all the other friends: did you try to check the speed of the connection via a computer? I mean, you can go in internet via the phone, from a laptop via the phone, or you can stick the sim card in a PC Card (I have a Sony Ericsson GC83) and go in internet. If you did so, what speed did you have, or could you get? Thank you, Paul.
For any of you who've been using a Nokia Symbian phone in recent months, you'll be happy to hear that fring has just released a WM5/WM6 fring client on a "preview" basis (beta of the beta - but not quite alpha testing).
fring was the one thing that was tempting me back to my Nokia E61 after finally "fixing" my TyTN. Basically, it's a combined VOIP/IM client that supports Skype, Google Talk, MSN and SIP as well as it's own community.
So those of you still stuck on WM5 or SJPhone forget about it. For those with any issues whatsoever with the WM6 VOIP client, forget about it. From my experience, fring SIP over 3G was even better than the built-in Nokia SIP client on the E61 over wifi in terms of call quality and availability (and that says a lot).
Does it have bugs, yes. Does it need improving, yes. But it's still the best thing out there. And even if you only use Skype Mobile, the RAM usage of fring is less than half (although call quality for Skype seems to be noticably lower than over SIP).
Anyway, just wanted to give you a heads up. Don't kill me if you hate it (and no, I'm in no way employed by them). To find it, just do a google search for fring or go to www.fring.com. Their Windows Mobile forum can be found here:
http://www.fring.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=11
I have problem to in stall it on my Hermes.... Can`t install it...
Fring - Hermes not supported
After registration i recieved the following message:
Your handset is not supported ... yet.
I'am eager to try fring, but we have to wait until the Hermes is supported.
somebody out there, running fring on a hermes?
Edit: Now i recieved my downloadlink, hmmm i will try later tonight back home and report back....
Tried this morning b4 seeing this post. It works quite well...
it works
I finally installed fring, and it works..... (just tried skype)
tried over GPRS&G3, and the phone wakes up from standby flawlessly
i also like those facts (bandwith usage):
fring for symbian phones consumes
~ 8MB for 60 min of mobile-VoIP call;
0.05 KB per Instant message
fring overhead ~ 10KB per hour connectivity
i hope those figures are equivalent to those on a WM5/WM6 device....
i kept getting a no internet connection error...
Any way to take the: "On mobile by www.fring.com" ??
Thanks for the heads up from Quist! I had just installed the new version of Skype only to have it crash everytime I make a call, just about to go back to the old version but will give Fring a go as just the fact that is not as memory hog like Skype appeals to me.
Warning to those on limited data plans
Be aware that fring automatically starts and attempts to log in every time the device is reset. Since I do a backup every morning at 2:00 AM using Spb Backup, which does a soft reset afterwards, my GPRS data usage skyrocketed. Not to mention that I was fast asleep at 2:00 AM, not ready to talk to any contacts at that time. Bad, bad fring! Bye, bye fring... I may try you again when you behave better!
I know that there is an easy way to stop it from doing this, but it is just the principle behind it. I hate programs that try to second guess my wishes and do things on my behalf without asking me whether that is OK or not. Besides, it should have the option of not using GPRS/3G for those of us on limited data plans (in my case, $30 per month for 7 MB of data download!)
John
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Besides, it should have the option of not using GPRS/3G for those of us on limited data plans...
John
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FYI
Fring has a option under Menu->Setting->Disable GPRS/3G
when disabled it will use wifi only....
cheers,
chaos42
chaos42 said:
FYI
Fring has a option under Menu->Setting->Disable GPRS/3G
when disabled it will use wifi only....
cheers,
chaos42
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DOH!!! How did I miss that one?! And guess what? There is also an option "Disable autostart". OK, now I feel like a fool. Maybe I should edit my original post to say "Make sure that you disable autostart if you don't want fring to log in at 2:00 AM after a soft reset, and make sure to disable GPRS/3G if on a limited data plan."
My apologies to the fring developers.
John
this software is pretty bad ass,, i finally got it to work a few days ago.... i even started a call with a friend on google and it worked great!!!
thumbs up!
Did your Google Talk call go through your speakerphone speaker? Is there a way to change that?
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Did your Google Talk call go through your speakerphone speaker? Is there a way to change that?
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You have two (maybe three) options: The first is to use the built-in rear speaker (the default). The second option is to connect the wired headset that came with your device. The third option (I haven't tested this or know anyone that has got it to work, but according to Teksoft's web site it should work on the Hermes) is to use Bluemusic to redirect the rear speaker output to a Bluetooth headset.
There is no way to use the built-in front (ear) speaker as this is reserved for the phone hardware.
John
Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315654 for a FULL review of Fring.
plusnet settings
I would like to use fring do use up my call allowance viq plusnet but I cant get the settings right. Can anyone help
how toinstall a .sis file in Jasjar?
hi senior members of this forum!
Im a newbie in installing apps in pda's. ihave O2 xda exec (jasjar). i downloaded the fring91.sis (which is said to be compatible with jasjar & O2 Exec) but its extension is .sis (Fring91.sis)
the question is how i will install it on my jasjar???
and please can u provide me some good links for registered apps for WM5 for my jasjar?
please help here!!!!!
waiting for ur replies!
HI All,
I just got a X01HT with WM5 ROM and 1.16 version radio, I used HTWeakC 2.1b to enable HSDPA (My service provider supports 3.5G-HSDPA), however, people couldn't call me when I am using HSDPA (with data transferring). They will divert to "voice message". So I always miss my call
But if I disable this HSDPA , and back to normal 3G network, even I am watching on-line video , I still can get my phone call, no miss call at all.
So I wondering why would this happen? I read some people on the web , they are using same HSDPA network with same X01HT but have no such problem.
Does it cause to radio version ? does the latest version (say 1.41 version) will fix this problem?
Thanks so much !
= )
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HI All,
I just got a X01HT with WM5 ROM and 1.16 version radio, I used HTWeakC 2.1b to enable HSDPA (My service provider supports 3.5G-HSDPA), however, people couldn't call me when I am using HSDPA (with data transferring). They will divert to "voice message". So I always miss my call
But if I disable this HSDPA , and back to normal 3G network, even I am watching on-line video , I still can get my phone call, no miss call at all.
So I wondering why would this happen? I read some people on the web , they are using same HSDPA network with same X01HT but have no such problem.
Does it cause to radio version ? does the latest version (say 1.41 version) will fix this problem?
Thanks so much !
= )
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Yes... from radio version 1.38.30.10 simultaneous GPRS/EDGE/ HSDPA connections with voice calls have been enabled... you need to upgrade your radio... try reading that here
walshieau said:
Yes... from radio version 1.38.30.10 simultaneous GPRS/EDGE/ HSDPA connections with voice calls have been enabled... you need to upgrade your radio... try reading that here
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Million Thanks Mate!
Understood now.
BTW, which version of radio is the best and with long battery life?
kinghung said:
Million Thanks Mate!
Understood now.
BTW, which version of radio is the best and with long battery life?
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its debateable... i believe 1.43 is the best... but others say 1.42 is.. the others say 1.41 is... so yeah... take your pick...
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its debateable... i believe 1.43 is the best... but others say 1.42 is.. the others say 1.41 is... so yeah... take your pick...
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Thanks mate! = )
But actually from other forum, some people said that is not because of the device radio version. It's depended on the local service provider. But those people saying this are using same service provider with me , they can receiving incoming call during HSDPA network data transfer (with old radio rom).
So it really makes me confused.
Sorry abt that
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Thanks mate! = )
But actually from other forum, some people said that is not because of the device radio version. It's depended on the local service provider. But those people saying this are using same service provider with me , they can receiving incoming call during HSDPA network data transfer (with old radio rom).
So it really makes me confused.
Sorry abt that
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well why dont you try the new radio ROM... as i have explained it...
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well why dont you try the new radio ROM... as i have explained it...
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OK, thanks for your comment.
Really Appreciated !
it's a known problem with sevral service providers.
Call your cellular company and check it out with them.
you can always diable HSDPA with a TWEAKing program.
elivne said:
it's a known problem with sevral service providers.
Call your cellular company and check it out with them.
you can always diable HSDPA with a TWEAKing program.
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I am quite sure abt that, coz' some people using same X01HT with same network service provider ( I read from other forum) , they can receiving incoming call during data transfer with HSDPA enabled.
So it sounds that it's my problem only.
thanks anyway!
My service provider is Vodafone IT, ROM version 1.23.165.2, Radio Version 1.06.00.00, HSDPA enabled, i'm receiving incoming calls during HSDPA network data transfer ....
Kamaal said:
My service provider is Vodafone IT, ROM version 1.23.165.2, Radio Version 1.06.00.00, HSDPA enabled, i'm receiving incoming calls during HSDPA network data transfer ....
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It sounds a bit weird for me, 1.06 is better than 1.16?
(My ROM is 1.23.708.4)
Hi walshieau,
I have done upgrade, both ROM and radio
now ROM is black 3.01 and radio is 1.41
(Hard SPL-2.10 Olipro)
But my miss incoming call problem is still there.
Everytime when browser internet pages or on-line video (with HSDPA), people couldn't call me.
But if I use Tweak to disable HSDPA, no problem at all.
I really have no idea what's happening?!
Thanks so much!
kinghung said:
OK, thanks for your comment.
Really Appreciated !
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I have the same problem. Even I turn off HSDPA, it still cannot receive incoming call while I am surfing the net.
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I have the same problem. Even I turn off HSDPA, it still cannot receive incoming call while I am surfing the net.
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Are u sure abt that ? Do u see the "H" icon when surfing on the web?
BTW, after I have upgrade to WM6 Offical SEA ENG ROM, and radio now 1.47
THIS ISSUE is still annoying me.
I have no idea why people keep talking about 3.5G, HSDPA , high speed surfing, if I could not receive incoming call , it 's meaningless to talk about surfing the web. Becoz' I have lost the most essential and basic function of a mobile/call phone.
I had this same problem both with my factory ROM and then with Black Dymond + radio 1.41, until I noticed my operator put out a new extROM. Installing that has ended all of these problems.
Can't be certain, but I think it has to do with network registration and certificates in how the operator handles simultaneous data and voice calls.
Lately I found out that I can recieve incoming call when I connect to Web (even HSDPA enabled), I think it should be depended on your service operator but not anyone else.