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No incoming phone call, while using EDGE/GPRS streaming?

I have MDA tmo (US). My radio ROM is 1.13.10.
While i am using streaming audio (http://di.fm), i cannot receive any phone calls and will not receive "missed call" notification either.
Is this "by design" or radio Rom issue? does anyone have the same issue with different ROM???

tokuro said:
I have MDA tmo (US). My radio ROM is 1.13.10.
While i am using streaming audio (http://di.fm), i cannot receive any phone calls and will not receive "missed call" notification either.
Is this "by design" or radio Rom issue? does anyone have the same issue with different ROM???
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this issue is quite wide spreaded on polish pdaclub.pl forum, however in my case it works flawlessly. i've started downloading abt. 500 KB file via GPRS straight from Wizard and then called from another mobile. i could pick up this connection and after that PIE just asked me if i'd like to resume file downloading.
maybe this 'bug' depends on network, not neccessary on hardware...?

thx... you do have a newer radio rom. It'll be interesting to know how other ROM may work...

I think this is network issues and not phone. It depends on your carrier.

benfica88 said:
I think this is network issues and not phone. It depends on your carrier.
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It is not a operator/network issue*. The same part of the network does not know simultanously that the GPRS is actually downloading at that instant AND also terminating a call. The two things are asynchronous contexts.
It's the handset radio/OS that handles the switch and pausing (if it's a class B device) of GPRS when a call comes in. This sounds like something that will be fixed/made less flakey in newer revisions.
(*although that's not to say that the behaviour will not be slightly different on various networks)

well, i was under that impression because every phone ive had from nokia to motorola to htc has this problem.cant receive a call while data is being downloaded.

eva_d said:
this issue is quite wide spreaded on polish pdaclub.pl forum, however in my case it works flawlessly. i've started downloading abt. 500 KB file via GPRS straight from Wizard and then called from another mobile. i could pick up this connection and after that PIE just asked me if i'd like to resume file downloading.
maybe this 'bug' depends on network, not neccessary on hardware...?
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Samehere with Qtek 2.18 NL ROM on Dutch T-Mobile network: when i start downloading and i receive a incoming call, i can just answer the phone and the download is interrupted. When i end the call, i can select to continue download.

Sorry to bring back an old issue, but I think this is a ROM issue, I think on the custom 2.17 ROM it worked fine but I dont remmber for sure. THis is a big issue.

tokuro, you mentioned that you listen to streaming radio using GPRS/EDGE. Are you doing this without the audio skipping/rebuffering every 4 minutes or so? If so, how? What program/settings are you using?

Take a look at this , made a lot of research about the issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54738&highlight=

Skype on mini!

Hello people,
Have anyone used Skype on mini? Mini doesn't have 3G and skype requires it i think. Have you tried? Which version did you download from?
Regards
Carty..

Skype does not require 3g. It works with wifi or BT. I don't have a wifi card but I've already played around with BT and is quitke good.

Hi,
Fine, let me try with gprs. Which version of skype is compatible with mini, can you please give me the link.
Thanx in advance.
Regards
Carty..

Skype

I tryed skipe with gprs and it works quite good! the quality is not the best but i cud understand my skipe contact... skype out was also quite good

Which version did you use? i couldn't find a version specific for mini. Only other devices like Dell, imate were there.
Thanx.
Regards
Carty..

I only tried it with their beta version. I uninstalled it because I don't have and don't want to buy a wifi card since soon I'll be replacing my S100.

i used the version for high speed cpus! you can download it from here:
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/mobile/download.html
I only tested it with gprs

Thanx you guys!
Regards
Carty..
www.CartyStudios.com

is it possible to run skype for ppc over a https proxy like the bigger brother for pc?
because i only have web and email on my ppc

Carty said:
Hello people,
Have anyone used Skype on mini? Mini doesn't have 3G and skype requires it i think. Have you tried? Which version did you download from?
Regards
Carty..
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mast use wifi.

handyfanat said:
I tryed skipe with gprs and it works quite good! the quality is not the best but i cud understand my skipe contact... skype out was also quite good
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Sorry to say that but that's bull****. Skype runs well via WiFi or 3G. GPRS only offers 56kbps, that is by far not enough bandiwth for voice. You can chat via GPRS, but no voice.

Private-Cowboy said:
handyfanat said:
I tryed skipe with gprs and it works quite good! the quality is not the best but i cud understand my skipe contact... skype out was also quite good
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Sorry to say that but that's bull****. Skype runs well via WiFi or 3G. GPRS only offers 56kbps, that is by far not enough bandiwth for voice. You can chat via GPRS, but no voice.
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That's true. Even If U'll switch to 4downling and 1 uplink U can barelly undestand your partner and with 1 uplink he will understand nothing. For skype U need at last 5 kB uplink and 5 kB downling - its impossible to get with GPRS.

You guys might need to get updated! Skype works well with my poor gprs connection even for voice! My gprs gives a transfer rate of an average 3kbps. The quality of the voice is like telephone clearity! I just used it for skype-out, a call to a land line number!
Regards
Carty..

@Carty: That's absolute bull****.
It doesn't even work smooth with bluetooth ~30kb/s.

Carty said:
You guys might need to get updated! Skype works well with my poor gprs connection even for voice! My gprs gives a transfer rate of an average 3kbps. The quality of the voice is like telephone clearity! I just used it for skype-out, a call to a land line number!
Regards
Carty..
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Get real! Magician offers 2 GPRS modes: 3-2 and 4-1 (where 4-1 means that 4 of 5 slots avaiable are used for download and 1 slot for upload. For skype U need 5 kB uplink and 5 kB downlink and there's no way to get it with 4-1 where U have max 4kB downlink (u should barelly undestand UR partner) and 1kB (sic!) uplink (theres no way that U will be understood). 3kB down and 2kB up in 3-2 GPRS mode is pretty useless too...
Point is that Skype need much more bandwidth than standard VoIP software so U can try one of many other VoiP communicators and U may be succesfull.

^ Um, that isn't the correct way to gague your GPRS ability - 1 slot != 1kB. If you're getting only like 3-5kB, it's because of reception or operator restrictions, NOT slot limit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Packet_Radio_Service for a general idea of the GPRS standard.

^ Um, that isn't the correct way to gague your GPRS ability - 1 slot != 1kB. If you're getting only like 3-5kB, it's because of reception or operator restrictions, NOT slot limit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Packet_Radio_Service for a general idea of the GPRS standard.

odd GPRS problem

Hi,
my GPRS connection is working, it connects without any problem but when i try to navigate with PIE then I can see the message "Opening" on the left lower corner but it just stays that way for a long time and the page never gets displayed. My e-mail works fine so that means i have GPRS connection and working. If i try navigating to a WAP site some pages get displayed and some other don't. If i connect via WiFi or via activesync then i can navigate without any problems. Based on my observations I suspect a problem with the MRU (Maximum receive Unit) of the TCPiP stack but i can not find on the registry where to change that.
Hope someone can help.

I used Tweak2K2 to set it in mine. Sorry I do not know the Reg setting.

hguiraud said:
Hi,
my GPRS connection is working, it connects without any problem but when i try to navigate with PIE then I can see the message "Opening" on the left lower corner but it just stays that way for a long time and the page never gets displayed. My e-mail works fine so that means i have GPRS connection and working. If i try navigating to a WAP site some pages get displayed and some other don't. If i connect via WiFi or via activesync then i can navigate without any problems. Based on my observations I suspect a problem with the MRU (Maximum receive Unit) of the TCPiP stack but i can not find on the registry where to change that.
Hope someone can help.
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I wonder whether your HTTP proxy port number is correct. I had same problem and I was using the advertised port number until I discovered there was another one that actually worked. I would suggest a port number but I'm O2 UK (it was `advertised as 80 but only actually worked on PIE with 8080)
Mike

You are not alone
Please check the following threads, both are related to our problem, unfortunely none of them gives a solution.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286449
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287101
My GPRS connection doesn´t require an HTTP proxy server so Mike´s suggestion didn´t work for me. I contacted Movistar and they are not open to give support since I didn´t buy the device from them....
On the other hand, if somebody can provide the ROM reg settings and a brief instruction on how can be changed would be great

Hi Luiggi
Sorry you have not got it solved yet. I remembered your post and looked for it but did not find it - hoped you had a solution to offer - sadly not
Edit: I suppose you are certain about the proxy? I ask because mine will connect to GPRS just fine without it - BUT PIE does not unless it's set.
Mike

Maybe it is a Movistar problem
Interesting, so happens that my service provider is also Movistar; maybe they have done something different to their network settings. Any way, I was in the US recently and was able to use GPRS roaming although because the TyTN does not differentiates between GPRS and EDGE it could have been that it was using EDGE and that it why i could navigate using PIE.
The funny thing about this problem is that my e-mail works fine and my SPB whether also updates without problems, it is only the navigation with PIE that i have issues with. Based on my observations it seems to be that if the tcp packet is larger that a certain size it gets dropped by the tcp stack.

Not lucky so far
Hi Mike!
Movistar people told me that the don´t need proxy servers for the connections since they use Dynamic IP addresses (?). I´ve have tried a lot of different configurations but not luck so far, the comment posted above could be they key, now the big question is: What are the proper settings and how to modify the reg...?

Will reflashing the phone be the only solution?
Well looks like the options are narrowing down to reflashing the phone.... I'll give it a couple of days more to see if someone can give Us a hint on what to do.

hguiraud said:
Well looks like the options are narrowing down to reflashing the phone.... I'll give it a couple of days more to see if someone can give Us a hint on what to do.
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I´m not sure about reflashing, actually I have two 8525 I paid to SIM unlock the 1st one so I still have the original ROM 1.34.505.1 and the symptoms are the same, I don´t know what ROM would be suitable to "solve" the problem in case this would be causing the partial lock.

New Finding
I´ve been trying a lot of things and I guess I´m close to the root cause. I strated from scratch with a hard reset and giving a soft reset before the 3 sec secreen of auto configuration, then I tried to set a connection in my ISP, I named it "The Internet" and when I hit the OK button I got a message saying that there was an existing connection setting under the same name!!! I couldn´t find such connection, so I´m pretty sure that the connection is hidden somewhere in the ROM and we need to disable it and create a new one or modify the reg to address a different connection consistent with our own network.... Any thoughts on this?

luiggi said:
I´ve been trying a lot of things and I guess I´m close to the root cause. I strated from scratch with a hard reset and giving a soft reset before the 3 sec secreen of auto configuration, then I tried to set a connection in my ISP, I named it "The Internet" and when I hit the OK button I got a message saying that there was an existing connection setting under the same name!!! I couldn´t find such connection, so I´m pretty sure that the connection is hidden somewhere in the ROM and we need to disable it and create a new one or modify the reg to address a different connection consistent with our own network.... Any thoughts on this?
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I do have exactly the same problem: an MMS connection is missing but stored somewhere... Anyway to figure out where it is? To me, it's just a flag to change in order for it to re-appear in the \connection\connections tab...

MMS in Cingular
Jeff_mm said:
I do have exactly the same problem: an MMS connection is missing but stored somewhere... Anyway to figure out where it is? To me, it's just a flag to change in order for it to re-appear in the \connection\connections tab...
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I mapped that one in Cingular, the MMS settings are self extracted from the extended ROM, if you want to get rid of it just do a hard reset and then a soft reset when the 3 sec message shows up, hope this can help you

Please tell us how you did it....
jcb_home said:
I used Tweak2K2 to set it in mine. Sorry I do not know the Reg setting.
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Yesterday I took a look the the various reg entries and there are some which set default addresses, did you change those addresses? How did you do with Tweak2k2?

8525 on SALE
hguiraud said:
Hi,
my GPRS connection is working, it connects without any problem but when i try to navigate with PIE then I can see the message "Opening" on the left lower corner but it just stays that way for a long time and the page never gets displayed. My e-mail works fine so that means i have GPRS connection and working. If i try navigating to a WAP site some pages get displayed and some other don't. If i connect via WiFi or via activesync then i can navigate without any problems. Based on my observations I suspect a problem with the MRU (Maximum receive Unit) of the TCPiP stack but i can not find on the registry where to change that.
Hope someone can help.
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I went thru all regs and I couldn´t find MRU or LCP (Link Control Protocol) settings, what disturbes me more is that I put my SIM in my 8125 and everything (IE. messenger, Gmail, Hotmail, etc.) works wonderful!! I think I´ll put on sale my 8525.......

More findings
I do have GPRS connection, no doubt about it. I install Tonaya Iper in my phone and the software gives the ability to trace the route from my phone to the destination, for instance The route to www.gmail.com (216.239.63.19)
is as follows (I set the time [email protected]):
1.- 10.15.14.78
2.- 10.2.4.20
3.- 10.2.4.134
4.- 200.36.174.81
5.- 200.39.31.42 (mx-mesr-rt1.telefonica-data.com.mx)
6.- 213.140.50.233 (So-2-3-1-grtmtyma2.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
7.- Request timed out
8.- 213.140.43.25
9.- 213.140.43.225
10.- 213.140.36.45
11.- 213.140.37.57
12.- 64.233.123
13.- 66.249.94.8
14.- 72.14.233.123
15.- 71.14.233.123
16.- 216.239.63.19 (bp-in-f19.google.com)
When I try to trace the communication with a 1 second timeout the phone stalls for a while in server 213.140.50.233 and makes the traceability extremely slow.
My conclusión is that when the communication reach the server 213.140.50.233 this cause a delay and my phone can not continue to the final destination probably because the pre set delay in the application exceeds its timout parameter.
Any suggestions?

Not a "Maybe" MOVISTAR is guilty for poor GPRS connections!!
hguiraud said:
Interesting, so happens that my service provider is also Movistar; maybe they have done something different to their network settings. Any way, I was in the US recently and was able to use GPRS roaming although because the TyTN does not differentiates between GPRS and EDGE it could have been that it was using EDGE and that it why i could navigate using PIE.
The funny thing about this problem is that my e-mail works fine and my SPB whether also updates without problems, it is only the navigation with PIE that i have issues with. Based on my observations it seems to be that if the tcp packet is larger that a certain size it gets dropped by the tcp stack.
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Today I use a SIM from the other mexican cell company (telcel), I just enter APN, user name and password and in a blink my 8525 flew thru PIE, hotmail, MS messenger, Gmail and everything!!! Conclusion:Movistar system or set ups are causing all the connection problems, I´ve spent hours in the phone with their wonderful engineers and none of them has been able to explain why Movistar can´t give a decent service to 8525 users.
Using the Traceroute feature of IPer I notice a very long delay to ping the Movistar router located in Madrid (213.140.50.233), there´s where I think the problem is.

You are right Luiggi...!
One of the guys here at the office also has a Dopod 838pro (I'm ussing a HTC TyTN) but with Telcel instead of Movistar...the push e-mail capabilities and the internet surf are really very good ...but with the GPRS of Movistar I recive my e-mails very delayed in the phone and also still unable to sing in to MSN messenger.
Thanks to your post now I know the trut; I was really thinking that maybe the TyTN was the problem (I mean, the HTC branded because the Dopod was functioning just very fine) I was even thinking in return it...
regards

Hummm I suspected that....
Well I think we have (a winner) an answer (partially), I will go back to Movistar and complain, I may not get any results from it but I really have no options since because of my work I travel a lot and the roaming pricing I get with them is way better that the other alternative. The funny thing about this issue is that other HTC phones do not have it. A co worker has a Wizard and he can navigate with PIE. Maybe it would be interesting to investigate what could be the difference or why other phones can navigate and Tytn can't.

Wizard works great!
hguiraud said:
Well I think we have (a winner) an answer (partially), I will go back to Movistar and complain, I may not get any results from it but I really have no options since because of my work I travel a lot and the roaming pricing I get with them is way better that the other alternative. The funny thing about this issue is that other HTC phones do not have it. A co worker has a Wizard and he can navigate with PIE. Maybe it would be interesting to investigate what could be the difference or why other phones can navigate and Tytn can't.
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I do my living buying and selling phones and I guess next time (tomorrow) I get a Wizard for sale I´ll spend enough time going thru the registry and routes to compare it with the Hermes. Would you guys mind to run IPer and check if the afore mentioned router or server with the problem is common for all of us?
I already wrote a not very nice letter to Movistar, probably they are shocked because normally their tournaround time for an answer is less than 24hrs and this time is taking longer. Next letter I´m going to be addressing the Director or whoever is the top dog.

How do I get/ run the aplication mentioned???
I would like to help to figure out what the problem is or help you guys to get to a solution...so, where can I find and how do I use the software luiggi is mentioning??
Is it free or with a trial version???
regards

fring is now available for WM5 and WM6 !!!

For any of you who've been using a Nokia Symbian phone in recent months, you'll be happy to hear that fring has just released a WM5/WM6 fring client on a "preview" basis (beta of the beta - but not quite alpha testing).
fring was the one thing that was tempting me back to my Nokia E61 after finally "fixing" my TyTN. Basically, it's a combined VOIP/IM client that supports Skype, Google Talk, MSN and SIP as well as it's own community.
So those of you still stuck on WM5 or SJPhone forget about it. For those with any issues whatsoever with the WM6 VOIP client, forget about it. From my experience, fring SIP over 3G was even better than the built-in Nokia SIP client on the E61 over wifi in terms of call quality and availability (and that says a lot).
Does it have bugs, yes. Does it need improving, yes. But it's still the best thing out there. And even if you only use Skype Mobile, the RAM usage of fring is less than half (although call quality for Skype seems to be noticably lower than over SIP).
Anyway, just wanted to give you a heads up. Don't kill me if you hate it (and no, I'm in no way employed by them). To find it, just do a google search for fring or go to www.fring.com. Their Windows Mobile forum can be found here:
http://www.fring.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=11

I have problem to in stall it on my Hermes.... Can`t install it...

Fring - Hermes not supported
After registration i recieved the following message:
Your handset is not supported ... yet.
I'am eager to try fring, but we have to wait until the Hermes is supported.
somebody out there, running fring on a hermes?
Edit: Now i recieved my downloadlink, hmmm i will try later tonight back home and report back....

Tried this morning b4 seeing this post. It works quite well...

it works
I finally installed fring, and it works..... (just tried skype)
tried over GPRS&G3, and the phone wakes up from standby flawlessly
i also like those facts (bandwith usage):
fring for symbian phones consumes
~ 8MB for 60 min of mobile-VoIP call;
0.05 KB per Instant message
fring overhead ~ 10KB per hour connectivity
i hope those figures are equivalent to those on a WM5/WM6 device....

i kept getting a no internet connection error...

Any way to take the: "On mobile by www.fring.com" ??

Thanks for the heads up from Quist! I had just installed the new version of Skype only to have it crash everytime I make a call, just about to go back to the old version but will give Fring a go as just the fact that is not as memory hog like Skype appeals to me.

Warning to those on limited data plans
Be aware that fring automatically starts and attempts to log in every time the device is reset. Since I do a backup every morning at 2:00 AM using Spb Backup, which does a soft reset afterwards, my GPRS data usage skyrocketed. Not to mention that I was fast asleep at 2:00 AM, not ready to talk to any contacts at that time. Bad, bad fring! Bye, bye fring... I may try you again when you behave better!
I know that there is an easy way to stop it from doing this, but it is just the principle behind it. I hate programs that try to second guess my wishes and do things on my behalf without asking me whether that is OK or not. Besides, it should have the option of not using GPRS/3G for those of us on limited data plans (in my case, $30 per month for 7 MB of data download!)
John

johnburn said:
Besides, it should have the option of not using GPRS/3G for those of us on limited data plans...
John
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FYI
Fring has a option under Menu->Setting->Disable GPRS/3G
when disabled it will use wifi only....
cheers,
chaos42

chaos42 said:
FYI
Fring has a option under Menu->Setting->Disable GPRS/3G
when disabled it will use wifi only....
cheers,
chaos42
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DOH!!! How did I miss that one?! And guess what? There is also an option "Disable autostart". OK, now I feel like a fool. Maybe I should edit my original post to say "Make sure that you disable autostart if you don't want fring to log in at 2:00 AM after a soft reset, and make sure to disable GPRS/3G if on a limited data plan."
My apologies to the fring developers.
John

this software is pretty bad ass,, i finally got it to work a few days ago.... i even started a call with a friend on google and it worked great!!!
thumbs up!

Did your Google Talk call go through your speakerphone speaker? Is there a way to change that?

xojc said:
Did your Google Talk call go through your speakerphone speaker? Is there a way to change that?
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You have two (maybe three) options: The first is to use the built-in rear speaker (the default). The second option is to connect the wired headset that came with your device. The third option (I haven't tested this or know anyone that has got it to work, but according to Teksoft's web site it should work on the Hermes) is to use Bluemusic to redirect the rear speaker output to a Bluetooth headset.
There is no way to use the built-in front (ear) speaker as this is reserved for the phone hardware.
John

Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315654 for a FULL review of Fring.

plusnet settings
I would like to use fring do use up my call allowance viq plusnet but I cant get the settings right. Can anyone help

how toinstall a .sis file in Jasjar?
hi senior members of this forum!
Im a newbie in installing apps in pda's. ihave O2 xda exec (jasjar). i downloaded the fring91.sis (which is said to be compatible with jasjar & O2 Exec) but its extension is .sis (Fring91.sis)
the question is how i will install it on my jasjar???
and please can u provide me some good links for registered apps for WM5 for my jasjar?
please help here!!!!!
waiting for ur replies!

Which Radio ROM for UK T-Mobile MDA Vario II?

Hi all, apologies for posting this, as there I know there's tons of other threads relating to this matter - I've spent quite some time reading (and being confused!) by them, but I can't seem to find a thread which a) has someone describing the exact problem I have, or b) giving a definitive solution. So here it is:
I have a UK MDA Vario II. It's my second one (replaced under warranty), this, and my first one both had a problem where I would seemingly randomly not receive calls or texts. The phone shows it has a signal, and the green light would be flashing to indicate service. However, on occasions, if you try to ring the phone, it diverts straight to voicemail. Sometimes service resumes normally (about an hour later) and I get a message informing me of my missed calls, and sometimes I have to do a soft reset to get it working again.
What I have gathered from reading on these forums is that I may need to upgrade my radio - it had version 1.05.02.00 on it (which it must have been shipped with).
So - following instructions, I put HardSPL 2.10 on to the device, then flashed the Radio ROM to version 1.47.30.10, deciding that this looked the safest bet based on the feedback of other people on the Forum. Having done this (last night) I decided to test the phone once per hour today by just calling it, and I only got to the second test before it failed again - showing signal and green light flashing - but calls going straight to voicemail.
So - I don't want to do any damage to the phone - but I need to know that when someone's calling me, it's going to ring (we're moving house soon, so I'm relying on certain calls from solicitors, bank etc etc). Can anyone tell me of a reliable Radio ROM version for an MDA Vario II on T-Mobile UK? (which won't introduce further problems!)
THANKS!!

broudie said:
Hi all, apologies for posting this, as there I know there's tons of other threads relating to this matter - I've spent quite some time reading (and being confused!) by them, but I can't seem to find a thread which a) has someone describing the exact problem I have, or b) giving a definitive solution. So here it is:
I have a UK MDA Vario II. It's my second one (replaced under warranty), this, and my first one both had a problem where I would seemingly randomly not receive calls or texts. The phone shows it has a signal, and the green light would be flashing to indicate service. However, on occasions, if you try to ring the phone, it diverts straight to voicemail. Sometimes service resumes normally (about an hour later) and I get a message informing me of my missed calls, and sometimes I have to do a soft reset to get it working again.
What I have gathered from reading on these forums is that I may need to upgrade my radio - it had version 1.05.02.00 on it (which it must have been shipped with).
So - following instructions, I put HardSPL 2.10 on to the device, then flashed the Radio ROM to version 1.47.30.10, deciding that this looked the safest bet based on the feedback of other people on the Forum. Having done this (last night) I decided to test the phone once per hour today by just calling it, and I only got to the second test before it failed again - showing signal and green light flashing - but calls going straight to voicemail.
So - I don't want to do any damage to the phone - but I need to know that when someone's calling me, it's going to ring (we're moving house soon, so I'm relying on certain calls from solicitors, bank etc etc). Can anyone tell me of a reliable Radio ROM version for an MDA Vario II on T-Mobile UK? (which won't introduce further problems!)
THANKS!!
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Ive never had any problems with calls not connecting, the only times it has failed is due to poor reception and ofcourse network busy errors.
I wouldnt worry about the radio version it sounds like a network issue. Have enabled 3G on it??

mrvanx said:
Ive never had any problems with calls not connecting, the only times it has failed is due to poor reception and ofcourse network busy errors.
I wouldnt worry about the radio version it sounds like a network issue. Have enabled 3G on it??
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I have (and thanks btw - it was your guides that I followed attempting the flash last night). The thing is, a good friend of mine has the same phone, in the same area - and he doesn't get these issues. My other half is also on T-Mobile, but uses a Sony Ericsson and doesn't have any problems with coverage. I'm in a city centre right now, and my house isn't far out - we both have decent reception there.
In fact - an interesting thing just happened (literally..) - I have my phone on a charging cradle, and it had been dormant for a while, so the screen was off. It woke up, as if about to receive a call or text, but then nothing happened... so I called myself from my office phone - and it connected ok.
About 5 minutes later my girlfriend called me up on the mobile, and I mentioned the issue was still there - and she said 'yeah, i tried to call you about 5 minutes ago'.... so it's like the call was received (i.e. the phone new about it), but it didn't complete the process.
I had thought a new radio version might help (from my very limited understanding of such matters) - are you saying that's not the case?
Does 3G affect this too? What can I do - I use the internet more than anything else on my phone....
Thanks

does anyone have any further advice on this?
Mr Vanx? Anyone??

My phone is still randomly losing signal - generally not accepting incoming calls (though today it was not accepting calls, whilst I was still able to make them...). I think I may go and get it replaced by T-Mobile - but I have upgraded the radio to 1.47.30.10, and have put HardSPL 2.10 onto it.
I guess I need to downgrade to original versions, but I can't seem to find a guide which tells me if what I want to do is OK (and how...).
Please - can anyone assist - I believe my original radio rom was 1.05.05.00, and the SPL version was 1.01.

I'm using 1.54.30.10 and it's fine. I found 1.54.00.10 pretty good as well. Much fewer dropped calls comparing to any 1.4x RadioROMs. Signal strenght is also better. The only thing I cannot comment on is the battery life, as I charge the phone every night whether it's 90% or 10%.

mean-machine said:
I'm using 1.54.30.10 and it's fine. I found 1.54.00.10 pretty good as well. Much fewer dropped calls comparing to any 1.4x RadioROMs. Signal strenght is also better. The only thing I cannot comment on is the battery life, as I charge the phone every night whether it's 90% or 10%.
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did you have the same problems as me? - phone appearing to have a signal but calls being diverted to voicemail... seemingly randomly...

Use GSM mode as default
I have the exact same problem (I travel between Birmingham and London mainly) on my Vario II. It is really fustrating and my wife seems to think I dont answer her calls/txts on purpose(!)
On mine, the problem is due to the 3G mode - when I turn OFF 3G and use normal GSM the problem goes away. I get all calls/txt and internet connections sucessfully. When I turn on 3G the problem comes back - lost calls and unsucessfull internet connections. When in 3G mode sometimes it works somtimes it doesnt
Someone mentioned it could be that it is not switching between 3G and GSM automatically when no 3G is available. However, it happens even when in a good strong 3G area.
I swear this problem did not happen in the early part of my contract but only recently. One theory is that TMobile has sold so many 3G devices now both monthly and pay-as-you-go (esp 3G Data Modems with users using the network for their laptops) that the TMobile cells are just getting overloaded. Also, it could be that TMobile are also doing an upgrade of the 3G network and it is causing problems for users.
So what I do is run the phone in GSM mode as default (so no missed calls/txt and use Opera Mini for quick web surfing works well in GSM mode) Then switch on 3G mode if I am going to do any web surfing for more then 5 mins.
The added side benefit is also much much better battery life in GSM mode (3G soaks up the juice very quickly). I never use video calls ect so no loss there.
My Comm Manager has a toggle for 3G/GSM mode so I use that to quickly change between the 2 modes.
In Summary I would rather have a reliable phone for recieving/making calls then one which is hit and miss.
btw, Im now due an upgrade - wondering if I should stay with TMobile or not...

We appear to have the same phone 'lives'!
kismat1970 said:
I have the exact same problem (I travel between Birmingham and London mainly) on my Vario II. It is really fustrating and my wife seems to think I dont answer her calls/txts on purpose(!)
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Same here - we're in the middle of selling 2 properties and buying another one, so I could really do with not having the phone playing up.
kismat1970 said:
On mine, the problem is due to the 3G mode - when I turn OFF 3G and use normal GSM the problem goes away. I get all calls/txt and internet connections sucessfully. When I turn on 3G the problem comes back - lost calls and unsucessfull internet connections. When in 3G mode sometimes it works somtimes it doesnt
Someone mentioned it could be that it is not switching between 3G and GSM automatically when no 3G is available. However, it happens even when in a good strong 3G area.
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I've tried this today, and have been testing the phone on an hourly basis - so far so good.
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I swear this problem did not happen in the early part of my contract but only recently.
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Spot on - this definitely was not a problem when I signed up (Nov 06).
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So what I do is run the phone in GSM mode as default (so no missed calls/txt and use Opera Mini for quick web surfing works well in GSM mode) Then switch on 3G mode if I am going to do any web surfing for more then 5 mins.
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Do you know where I can get a reliable version of Opera Mini?
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My Comm Manager has a toggle for 3G/GSM mode so I use that to quickly change between the 2 modes.
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I dont have this option in mine? How can I get it??
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In Summary I would rather have a reliable phone for recieving/making calls then one which is hit and miss.
btw, Im now due an upgrade - wondering if I should stay with TMobile or not...
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Ditto - im due for upgrade in March, and had been looking at the Vario iii - but am now wondering if I should be looking at another network? Is this a consistent problem with all 3G devices on T-Mobile - or does it just affect the Vario ii?

broudie said:
Same here - we're in the middle of selling 2 properties and buying another one, so I could really do with not having the phone playing up.
I've tried this today, and have been testing the phone on an hourly basis - so far so good.
Spot on - this definitely was not a problem when I signed up (Nov 06).
Do you know where I can get a reliable version of Opera Mini?
I dont have this option in mine? How can I get it??
Ditto - im due for upgrade in March, and had been looking at the Vario iii - but am now wondering if I should be looking at another network? Is this a consistent problem with all 3G devices on T-Mobile - or does it just affect the Vario ii?
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I signed up in Sep 06 and there was no problem with 3G mode then (problem free for the first 12 months at least).
From your phone internet rowser goto http://mini.opera.com/ and click on Download Opera Mini (this is latest version 4).
Before you do this make sure you have Esmertec Jbed midlet manager installed (Opera Mini is a Java App).
I use Opera Mini 90% of the time and its still renders fast on a GSM connection.
Ive uploaded the CABs for you for the Midlet Manager and Comm Manager.
I dont know if it only affects the VarioII maybe others can comment. If its a network issue then I would expect it affecting other devices also.
I want to go for the HTC Touch Dual (aka MDA Touch Plus on TMobile) as my next phone but may go with Orange if it is a network issue. Only reason I stay with TMobile is for the 'unlimited' web'n walk tarrif..but if I can't use 3G realiably then what is the point?

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I signed up in Sep 06 and there was no problem with 3G mode then (problem free for the first 12 months at least).
From your phone internet rowser goto http://mini.opera.com/ and click on Download Opera Mini (this is latest version 4).
Before you do this make sure you have Esmertec Jbed midlet manager installed (Opera Mini is a Java App).
I use Opera Mini 90% of the time and its still renders fast on a GSM connection.
Ive uploaded the CABs for you for the Midlet Manager and Comm Manager.
I dont know if it only affects the VarioII maybe others can comment. If its a network issue then I would expect it affecting other devices also.
I want to go for the HTC Touch Dual (aka MDA Touch Plus on TMobile) as my next phone but may go with Orange if it is a network issue. Only reason I stay with TMobile is for the 'unlimited' web'n walk tarrif..but if I can't use 3G realiably then what is the point?
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Thanks very much for loading this stuff...
my other half is after the touch plus too - but have advised her to do some research before committing to T-Mob again.... though if she gets it and it's ok, i'll post some feedback on here...
Cheers

The Touch Plus is a good phone if you can live without Wifi...Ive read somewhere that this problem is dependant on the area you are in ...in particular the TMobile cell tower servicing the area you are in and it is possible to phone TMobile tech support to get an engineer to investigate and correct the problem. In my case that would be my home address and my work address - maybe worth a try?

Just to add my 2p worth... my radio is 1.05.05.00 (came on the phone, which was a replacement for the first which had the screen drift)... I've had occasional times when the phone's lit up but nothing's happened, but I usually chalk that down to the phone doing an activesync check for push mail, and as there's nothing there, it goes back to sleep.
To my knowledge, I've not really missed any calls or anything like that since way back last year - when sometimes I'd be sitting in the same café as a mate also on T-Mobile, and we'd do the you-call-me-i-call-you thing to get each others' numbers - and it'd go straight to voicemail! That was quite amusing.
Nobody's told me that they've had problems trying to reach me on my mobile though for a fair while now, so I'd almost completely forgotten about this problem!
edit: yay, 500th post! Took a while but got there eventually... Anybody want to sponsor me with a free Kaiser?

broudie said:
Can anyone tell me of a reliable Radio ROM version for an MDA Vario II on T-Mobile UK? (which won't introduce further problems!)
THANKS!!
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Hi, I confess I haven't read the thread in great deal (am in a rush and am just passing through!) but you could try this official T-Mobile UK ROM. It's Windows Mobile6 and Radio 1.50.xxx (as far as I remember). The main thing is that it's official, and includes their latest sanctioned bootloaders etc. I flashed it to mine before taking back for warranty (as it's not possible to go back to the old 1.05 radio from recent unauthorised versions).
T-Mobile UK WM6 complete MDA Vario II ROM:
http://member.htc.com/ruudownload/t-mobile/TMobileWM6Step1-TMuk.aspx
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:O when did that become available? I swore to myself I'd keep an eye on the TM phone downloads site because I knew WM6 was available for some devices, but I completely forgot and since then they've rolled out WM6 for my phone... Which is a proper pain, but at the same time a really nice surprise.

Hard reset your device, install ALL applications on the phone (nothing on the micro SD - except outlook attachments). This should solve the problem.

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Hard reset your device, install ALL applications on the phone (nothing on the micro SD - except outlook attachments). This should solve the problem.
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Why dig up this old thread and answer a question that has probably long since been resolved?

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Why dig up this old thread and answer a question that has probably long since been resolved?
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It's been useful for me. I'm having exactly the same experience on orange with an spv m3100 at the moment. This helps.

Dear,
My trinity (HERM300) test device have the same problem:
No CID, NO RADIo , NO GSM, NO IMEI
This info on my device (when having problems)
HERM300
IPL 1.04
SPL 2.10
plz plz plz any body help me for this ...........

john7992 said:
Dear,
My trinity (HERM300) test device have the same problem:
No CID, NO RADIo , NO GSM, NO IMEI
This info on my device (when having problems)
HERM300
IPL 1.04
SPL 2.10
plz plz plz any body help me for this ...........
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you should check and find its at http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms