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I am a Cingular user, I was using Cingular for a long time and it worked fine for me. However, after this May, I found some problem by connecting Cingular service. On that time, I was using MDA II, at first I thought my PDA was broken so that I can't get the signal from Cingular and I bought a XDA EXEC from England.
However, problem still there. It is still so hard for me to get Cingular service. I have tried to put my SIM card to cingular phone, and it shows the connection well, at least 3 bars. Once I put it back to my XDA, the connection is very weak or most of the time, it doesn't work.
I wonder if anyone of you have the same problem with me? I have check that this XDA is an unlock phone and it works fine with other service, but not Cingular. I have no idea about what Cingular has done.
Please help, any solutions would be appretiate!
Nachogy said:
I am a Cingular user, I was using Cingular for a long time and it worked fine for me. However, after this May, I found some problem by connecting Cingular service. On that time, I was using MDA II, at first I thought my PDA was broken so that I can't get the signal from Cingular and I bought a XDA EXEC from England.
However, problem still there. It is still so hard for me to get Cingular service. I have tried to put my SIM card to cingular phone, and it shows the connection well, at least 3 bars. Once I put it back to my XDA, the connection is very weak or most of the time, it doesn't work.
I wonder if anyone of you have the same problem with me? I have check that this XDA is an unlock phone and it works fine with other service, but not Cingular. I have no idea about what Cingular has done.
Please help, any solutions would be appretiate!
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The signal is weak because the device does not support the most widely used frequency band among Cingular cell towers in the United States (850 MHz). You will find that as you travel into busier areas/cities/neighborhoods, it will significantly increase
Do you have any suggestion about what kind of service is better? I am considering T-Mobile, is it good?
Nachogy said:
Do you have any suggestion about what kind of service is better? I am considering T-Mobile, is it good?
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It is very likely that T-Mobile will work better in your area. I, myself don't get such great service with Cingular at my home because I live in the suburbs. Anywhere else I go, my signal seems to be fine though.
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Nachogy said:
Do you have any suggestion about what kind of service is better? I am considering T-Mobile, is it good?
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It is very likely that T-Mobile will work better in your area. I, myself don't get such great service with Cingular at my home because I live in the suburbs. Anywhere else I go, my signal seems to be fine though.
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I really appretiate your answer!
I am a t-mobile customer with an unlocked htc tytn. I wanted to know what woudl happen if I loaded my phone up with the t-mobile mda rom form the t-mobile site. If anyone knows please let me know. I have been trying to get the edge feature to work and im in a edge area but I still do not get the signal. Is there some sort of settings that I need in order to get edge to work. Thanks for the help
There is no t-mob rom upgrade available for HTC Hermes yet, probably the rom you are refering to is for another device. T-mob branded Hermes is called "MDA Vario II".
And yes, you need your operator settings for the data connection to work.
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I am having problems with the tytn. I have a htc branded tytn and I am with t-mobile. I have all of my settings right. The internet works the mms works but the damn edge does not. What am I doing wrong. Whats going on here. Is there a t-mobile expert on this form that can walk me through getting this phone to do what its suppose to do.
probably a dumb question, but... are you on edge coverage?
pof said:
There is no t-mob rom upgrade available for HTC Hermes yet, probably the rom you are refering to is for another device. T-mob branded Hermes is called "MDA Vario II".
And yes, you need your operator settings for the data connection to work.
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Indeed, not yet, but as soon as it'll be made available it'll most likely appear on this site: http://www.tm-phonedownloads.com/mdas.html
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gordiejamz said:
I am having problems with the tytn. I have a htc branded tytn and I am with t-mobile. I have all of my settings right. The internet works the mms works but the damn edge does not. What am I doing wrong. Whats going on here. Is there a t-mobile expert on this form that can walk me through getting this phone to do what its suppose to do.
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Surely ringing them up and asking would be the quickest way of getting the right settings? You can just ask for them, write em down, and input them manually...
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Yes I am in the edge coverage zone because I could be standing next to someone with a mda form t-mobile and they have edge and I done. Plus I live in an edge zone and I spoke with t-mobile and all of the settings are right and they told me I should be getting the coverage.
How do you have your connection set up? On my phone (T-Mobile UK), the T-Mobile Internet connection is set up as Cellular (3G, GPRS) in the dropdown box... I don't know what the options are for the US ROM, but I'm guessing they're similar...
i have a cingular 8525 and since yesterday, it keeps dropping my gsm service completely. like i look at my phone and there is an "X" on the service bars, and the service LED is not flashing. if i soft reset the device, or shut the phone part off and back on, it picks up service again (full bars, as usual). also, i tried plugging my SIM back into my old treo 650, and i dont see this problem. is it related to the 3g network? i haven't made any software changes since yesterday. faulty hardware? really frustrating, help would be appreciated. thanks.
k4ffy said:
i have a cingular 8525 and since yesterday, it keeps dropping my gsm service completely. like i look at my phone and there is an "X" on the service bars, and the service LED is not flashing. if i soft reset the device, or shut the phone part off and back on, it picks up service again (full bars, as usual). also, i tried plugging my SIM back into my old treo 650, and i dont see this problem. is it related to the 3g network? i haven't made any software changes since yesterday. faulty hardware? really frustrating, help would be appreciated. thanks.
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shouldnt be caused by the 3g network, do you have the white 3G sim with the orange flaming 3G on it? This could also very well be hardware or the radio... so many variable with this... i would vote for 3 possible issues, either hardware, radio rom, or sim card.. take your pick.. the sim will be the easiest to try, if you dont have the white 3G then just walk into a cingular store, tell them they sold you the 8525 without the 3G sim and they will replace it for free.. well they did with me anyway
shogunmark said:
shouldnt be caused by the 3g network, do you have the white 3G sim with the orange flaming 3G on it? This could also very well be hardware or the radio... so many variable with this... i would vote for 3 possible issues, either hardware, radio rom, or sim card.. take your pick.. the sim will be the easiest to try, if you dont have the white 3G then just walk into a cingular store, tell them they sold you the 8525 without the 3G sim and they will replace it for free.. well they did with me anyway
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i dont have the flaming 3g on my sim, no. i'll get it replaced, then see what happens. thanks.
k4ffy said:
i dont have the flaming 3g on my sim, no. i'll get it replaced, then see what happens. thanks.
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its a good place to start, i know i had data trouble with the old sim, after i got the one it solved my problems
shogunmark said:
its a good place to start, i know i had data trouble with the old sim, after i got the one it solved my problems
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the only disconcerting thing is that i had the HTC TyTn for a month before i got the 8525, and i never had this problem with it, same sim and everything.
here's a thread about it on the cingular customer forums, people having the same problem with their 8525's
http://forums.cingular.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&message.id=24766&jump=true#M24766
k4ffy said:
the only disconcerting thing is that i had the HTC TyTn for a month before i got the 8525, and i never had this problem with it, same sim and everything.
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good point... i can say that i have had signal issues with both 1.16 and 1.20 radio but not to the extent that you are having, and the new sim solved alot of issues for me in the beginning.. Now i dont have any issues when in a GSM area, only seem to have issues in a 3G area
ok got the new SIM Card, but the problem persists. hardware?
I've had the Cingular 8525 for a week and it has one of the newer 64MB SIM cards (same that the Sierra AirCard 860 uses and required for 3G network access). I haven't had any call dropping problems at all. If it persists I'd get a replacement ASAP.
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got myself a brand new 8525 from my local cingular store at the end of last week, and the problem persists. i also have one of the new flaming 3G SIM cards. the only thing i can think of now is the network in my area. any other thoughts/ideas?
k4ffy said:
got myself a brand new 8525 from my local cingular store at the end of last week, and the problem persists. i also have one of the new flaming 3G SIM cards. the only thing i can think of now is the network in my area. any other thoughts/ideas?
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did you have this problem prior to the 8525? also go to start>settings>system, then tick device information and tell me what radio version you have
shogunmark said:
did you have this problem prior to the 8525? also go to start>settings>system, then tick device information and tell me what radio version you have
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did not have this problem prior to getting the 8525. had a tytn for a few weeks and didn't experience this (although it did have the screen alignment problem which is why i had to get rid of it). i have had the problem with both 8525's. my radio version is 1.16.00.00
Can't add much to the discussion...but I have an SPV M31000 (Orange Tytn Flavor) And ahve the same issue when in an area which switches between UTMS and EDGE. It also appears it will sometimes lock a call.
I can't add too much either. I've got an 8525, and I do experience the issue at my company's current office (thankfully not the one I actually work out of though, as I'm at a client site and rarely at the home office). I find my issue seems to be specifically with being on a fringe area of UMTS/GPRS. GPRS is a much stronger signal that the UMTS, so I see it swapping frequently. Sometimes it drops completely. Weird thing is though that it doesn't happen all the time..
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I can't add too much either. I've got an 8525, and I do experience the issue at my company's current office (thankfully not the one I actually work out of though, as I'm at a client site and rarely at the home office). I find my issue seems to be specifically with being on a fringe area of UMTS/GPRS. GPRS is a much stronger signal that the UMTS, so I see it swapping frequently. Sometimes it drops completely. Weird thing is though that it doesn't happen all the time..
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sounds pretty much like what is happening to me. the annoying part is that it doesn't pick up the signal automatically again once i'm out of that fringe area. if that was the case i could live with it, but i miss calls all the time because of this.
HTC TyTn Cingular 8525 Sim and other issues
I have an HTC TyTn since October 12, 2006, and have had a great deal of problems, but none in Japan while traveling, only in the US. Cingular is constatntly changing and upgrading its services, its servers and its policies. My SIM which worked until 12/26//06 never allowed a SMS message through since then? It seems now to be caused by the fact that I have the old SIM, but was never a problem till Cingular upgraded its towers?
The Phone portion will not work well in the UMTS mode, and the techs say that it is because the towers are not all turned on as yet in my area. If you try and have the Outlook and lets say AOL turned on to download, when the phone is in GPRS mode, your calls are blocked when the AOL goes out to check for mesages. The techs say it is not the same on UMTS. The UMTS uses more battery, but especially if the phone is looking for messages often to other than Outlook. Of course the programs never close, even IE, unless you shut them down manually in settings/system/memory/running programs.
Well, I've had my phone for about 8 months, and so its first major fault has developed. As of last Friday, it will no longer connect to the 3G network, and barely hold a 2G connection. Wifi/GPS radios are fine, so I'm guessing something with the internal aerial has gone screwy. Reflashed with original t-mob roms which have had no effect, back to WM5 (eugh) and still the same.
Had to laugh at T-mob though, they wanted me to hunt out another 3g t-mob subscriber to try their sim, and try my sim in their phone. Either that, or visit a T-Mob store. Grrr.. Managed to loan a Tytn off the boss for a couple of days, my sim goes straight to HSDPA so deffo the ameo. So T-Mob are having it back for a few days to try and resuccitate it back to life, fingers x'd its back to a state where it looks like its not been furkled with too much.
I could have taken it to a t-mob shop for them to send off, and helpfully they would have sent me a txt when it was ready for collection - as I then pointed out to the nice lady on the phone, how would I receive said message when my phone is AT YOUR FRIGGING SERVICE DEPARTMENT. Poor show from T-Mob, but what was expected. Still, at least I'm not completly off the grid at the mo.
Oh, and I had Radio 1.5 and WM 6.1 image on the phone at the time, and it was during a voice call the phone rebooted and then wouldn't work, so i'm guessing somethings maybe overheated and gone pop...
Digital.Diablo said:
Well, I've had my phone for about 8 months, and so its first major fault has developed. As of last Friday, it will no longer connect to the 3G network, and barely hold a 2G connection. Wifi/GPS radios are fine, so I'm guessing something with the internal aerial has gone screwy. Reflashed with original t-mob roms which have had no effect, back to WM5 (eugh) and still the same.
Had to laugh at T-mob though, they wanted me to hunt out another 3g t-mob subscriber to try their sim, and try my sim in their phone. Either that, or visit a T-Mob store. Grrr.. Managed to loan a Tytn off the boss for a couple of days, my sim goes straight to HSDPA so deffo the ameo. So T-Mob are having it back for a few days to try and resuccitate it back to life, fingers x'd its back to a state where it looks like its not been furkled with too much.
I could have taken it to a t-mob shop for them to send off, and helpfully they would have sent me a txt when it was ready for collection - as I then pointed out to the nice lady on the phone, how would I receive said message when my phone is AT YOUR FRIGGING SERVICE DEPARTMENT. Poor show from T-Mob, but what was expected. Still, at least I'm not completly off the grid at the mo.
Oh, and I had Radio 1.5 and WM 6.1 image on the phone at the time, and it was during a voice call the phone rebooted and then wouldn't work, so i'm guessing somethings maybe overheated and gone pop...
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Let's hope they give you a new replacement since it is still under warranty. Who knows, may be even a 7510?
Digital.Diablo said:
Well, I've had my phone for about 8 months, and so its first major fault has developed. As of last Friday, it will no longer connect to the 3G network, and barely hold a 2G connection. Wifi/GPS radios are fine, so I'm guessing something with the internal aerial has gone screwy. Reflashed with original t-mob roms which have had no effect, back to WM5 (eugh) and still the same.
Had to laugh at T-mob though, they wanted me to hunt out another 3g t-mob subscriber to try their sim, and try my sim in their phone. Either that, or visit a T-Mob store. Grrr.. Managed to loan a Tytn off the boss for a couple of days, my sim goes straight to HSDPA so deffo the ameo. So T-Mob are having it back for a few days to try and resuccitate it back to life, fingers x'd its back to a state where it looks like its not been furkled with too much.
I could have taken it to a t-mob shop for them to send off, and helpfully they would have sent me a txt when it was ready for collection - as I then pointed out to the nice lady on the phone, how would I receive said message when my phone is AT YOUR FRIGGING SERVICE DEPARTMENT. Poor show from T-Mob, but what was expected. Still, at least I'm not completly off the grid at the mo.
Oh, and I had Radio 1.5 and WM 6.1 image on the phone at the time, and it was during a voice call the phone rebooted and then wouldn't work, so i'm guessing somethings maybe overheated and gone pop...
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I had the same problem. It turns out that t-mobile's signal strength is not up to much in many areas. I was about to return my ameo for the third time (they insisted that it was the ameo at fault) but when I learned that it was t-mobiles' rubbish comms, I held on to it for a few weeks. Yesterday, I tried to make it sim-free and bricked it. Makes a lovely paperweight until someone can come to the rescue!!
Hi I have a x7501 so how do you get 3g to work and what plan from t-mo do you need?...Thanks...TJ
TrekkerJmm said:
Hi I have a x7501 so how do you get 3g to work and what plan from t-mo do you need?...Thanks...TJ
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If you're talking about 3g for T-mo in America and not Europe, I don't think they have 3G as yet but they do have EDGE which is 19,99 unlimited. And now they carry a 99.99 unlimeted voice, text and sms, plan. Hope this information helps. Oh and you posted the question in the wrong thread.
Well, it would appear that the mobo or a radio chip has been replaced on it. Its due back tomorrow I think, but the repair companies website indicates what whilst the serial number is the same, the IMEI is different.
@ Bishee, I was pretty certain it wasn't the network at fault, as it was the same wherever I used it, and at home and work, I get a good HSDPA signal (sometimes dropping back to 3G when the networks congested). And it didn't change for the 3 or 4 days before it got sent back to t-mob.
@ Trekkerjim - If your not in the US (although given the model number you quote, seems to indicate this) it should work with 3G from the off, however you must have a 3g capable sim card (I've seen this a few times) and you must make sure the radio is set to the correct frequency (or auto). For people in the UK on t-mob that don't have the settings, I posted up a cab somewhere on the ftp xda site which configures the settings correctly.
Anyway, fingers x'd its all sorted now, so I'll let you know how it looks once I've gone through the fix process (olipro unlocker, WM 6.1 e.t.c. )
I got my 7501 up and running on Rogers 3G with the help
of one of their techie sales type,it's working fine with a
pay-as-you-go simcard.
Phone's back, and I'm not sure if its a replace or refurb - the job notes say a mobo swap and also unit swap. I can confirm that the case is all new and shiny and the screen printing on the case is all back to 'new' condition.
Came back with Radio 1.50.00.00
O/S Build: 5.2.1620 (Build 18125.0.4.2).
ROM 2.35.110.4
If anyone wants this version (UK T-Mob), send me the distructions on how to extract the rom from the phone and I'll sort it out - you have until PK4 arrives
Hi All,
for about a month now, I have not been able to get H speeds for download on the T-Mobile UK network, I' flashed many roms, even got back to my Old WM6 room (k's rom) and still no High speed, it seems to me like it is a network problem but when taling to T-Mobile they say that everything is OK. is anyone else having these problems?
Go into start>settings>system>device information
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32.83.7020.20h
Hiya,
Just to let you know I'm replying to this thread on my laptop via T-Mobile UK, HSDPA on my Hermes...
I'm using a Schaps ROM (a full version but with TouchFlo turned off because it's a pig)...
Regards,
Rob.
Have T-Mobile got the HSDPA network coverage in the majority of places? I've only got it a few times and the same with a work colleague - only in certain places. Hasn't really bothered me but perhaps something to think about...
Oh I'm also using the Schap's latest ROM.
FactionOne said:
Hiya,
Just to let you know I'm replying to this thread on my laptop via T-Mobile UK, HSDPA on my Hermes...
I'm using a Schaps ROM (a full version but with TouchFlo turned off because it's a pig)...
Regards,
Rob.
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Do you use Internet Connection Sharing for this?
MrEdLancelot said:
Hi All,
for about a month now, I have not been able to get H speeds for download on the T-Mobile UK network, I' flashed many roms, even got back to my Old WM6 room (k's rom) and still no High speed, it seems to me like it is a network problem but when taling to T-Mobile they say that everything is OK. is anyone else having these problems?
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Are you on a contract with T-Mobile or Pay as you go?
The reason I ask is that I've been on Pay as you go with with T-Mobile for years! Last year I bought a 2nd hand Vario II off a friend who was on contract and had upgraded to a Vario III. Like you, I couldn't get H speeds with this phone no matter what I tried. My friend who'd had the phone before me had no problem getting H speeds with it... the only difference is that he was on a contract!
Later in the year I went on a P&O cruise around various european destinations and in several countries I managed to get H speeds, but once I got back in the UK I was again limited to 3G.
Anyway a couple of weeks ago I decided to change to one of their solo price plans and add the £7.50/month for internet use (It doesn't mention you can do this on their website, it only mentions it for flext and combi plans - but I asked them nicely and they gave it to me on solo )
Since then I've had H speeds practically all the time and it's not a different sim card either, I kept the same number and the same sim card - they just changed my account at their end.
So I reckon they don't let pay as you go users get HSDPA with a Hermes for some strange reason. Having said that my brother has a Sony-Ericsson WM890i on T-Mobile pay as you go, and he can get H's. Strange!