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Getting Word Completion to learn new words!

OK, this may just be a Pocket PC thing rather than a specific XDA II thing but I'm not sure.
Can anyone tell me if their XDA is learning frequently used words that are not in it's dictionary. For example, my name's Ravi and after a couple of weeks of typing emails, letters etc all ending '... Ravi', it's still not learnt the word. All it suggests is 'Ravaged' (!!)
This morning, I got a bit fed up of this so I created a note and typed in 'Ravi' about 100 times and guess what, it still doesn't learn it.
Is there a trick to getting the dictionary to learn new words or is it just my name it can't stand !!
Maybe someone else can try this and see if it works !
Ravaged

Ravi,
Did you ever sort this out?
I would love to enter a few words (including my name!) in to the database
Ashby

Check out Fitaly. 60 days trial. You will be able to build own shortcuts. And I think it's a much faster SIP then the others.

Ravi said:
Can anyone tell me if their XDA is learning frequently used words that are not in it's dictionary.
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I'm not sure if the XDA learns new words by itself, but you can add words. Not sure if there's a simpler way, but this (rather complicated one) works:
- open any transcriber-aware application
- write the word you want to add, using keyboard or transcriber
- mark (highlight) the word
- switch to transcriber; if the second row of icons is not visible, tap on the hand icon
- tap on the icon with the red check mark to open the "corrector window" (not sure if this is the correct translation for "Korrekturfenster" ); the highlighted word will appear in the new window
- double-tap anywhere inside the word.
- in the menu that (hopefully) comes up, chose "add to dictionary" ("Dem Wörterbuch hinzufügen")
Voila, you're all set!
But please be careful - I didn't yet find a way to remove words from the dictionary...
Cheers
Daniel

many thanks,
ashby

Never sorted it out - everyone I spoke to said that the OS doesn't add new words. I'm just about to buy Calligrapher - I tried the demo and it's amazing - I'm not sure that this feature is available on this program either though. I guess I've just given up adding new words but I will try Daniel's method outlined above.
BTW I tried Fitaly and what the hell were they thinking ? Is it supposed to be an easier input method than what we have already or is it just designed to fry your brain ?!!
TenGo's pretty decent though !
thanks all
Ravi

Getting Word Completion to learn dutch!
Does anyone know how to change the word completion dictionary on my Qtek 2020 / PPC 2003 to another dictionary / language?
It is said that in PPC 2002 you could swap the file \Windows\user.dct, but not on PPC 2003 (the file is apparently not there).

Try out WordLogic: http://www.wordlogic.net/software.html
Not cheap, but works very well!

Would you like to use CTRL/ALT on your Universal? :D

Hello all,
I would like to introduce a software which using CTRL/ALT key on your Universal.
Here is a link to download.
http://1942.rocketspace.net/PQz/PQz20051119_0015.zip
Espcially, It has been designed for Japanese.(IME Atok)
(I'm not sure it works or not in other languages.)
Thanks.

OK, I'm not brave enough...
<JarJar Brick Warning>
Anyone else willing to run an executable from an unverifiable source :?:
</JasJar Brick Warning>
Tom's other 2 posts are innocuous enough, and started over a month ago, so it doesn't look like someone who registered just to post a trojan.
Tom, can you tell us if you've tried this, how it works, and where we can find a URL that lends it some cred?
Here's what I could find that might help (Jap translated page). Looks like a competition to write such a proggie:
http://216.239.39.104/translate_c?h...=50&hl=en&hs=vfu&lr=&client=opera&rls=en&sa=G

Woohoo! I found a few more Jap/Chinese pages, and developed a level of comfort that this was a competition, and that the app exists and does what Tom suggests. It's AWESOME! U get a little icon on the title bar (would like to get rid of this some time), and it changes to show ctrl and alt mode. You can set different keyboard keys to be ctrl and alt, and when u press them u can now move backwards and forwards 1-word at a time and all the other things u would expect.
Nice going Tom - sorry to have been so circumspect. We would love for you to tell us more about what those darned clever Japanese dudes are doing for the Universal.
PS: For n00bies, put this exe file in your \windows\startup folder. Right-click icon for settings. Set ctrl to be your WIN key, and Alt to be your SYM key and you're a-for-away! Uuh, on second thoughts, I've no idea what the alt key does for me, so until I figure that out I'll keep my sym key as is
PPS: Sorry VJ - you were beaten to it! No worries tho, you can focus on some of the other stuff we're all dying to see...

Woohoo! Ctrl-Q,Del,A,C,X,V I expected - but Ctrl-Z is just a big fat bonus!

Most excellent! Any chance for an "ESC" key?

Wow, that's nice!
V

Hi all,
and thank you for your interest.
Last few weeks, I've been developing this app and not finished yet.
I will write a user's guide as soon as possible.
PS.heidy
I think it not hard to implement 'ESC'.
cheers

heidy: You might be interested in this.
V

In the setup page:
what do the 2 IME list do?
thank you

Hi francorg,
>In the setup page:
>what do the 2 IME list do?
You might be using single byte charactor like English if you don't use IME.
We japanese have to convert from single byte charactor(alphabet) to Japanese. (Chinese/Koria are same)
Alphabet <----(IME OFF/ON)---->Japanese
The settings are used for Japanese Input.
If you don't use IME. You can choose IME [none][N O].
that the best way to you.
thank you.

brilliant - thanks!
is tough choosing which key to lose though for Ctrl.... think i'll start with CAP LOCK - i've kinda got used to using Fn, Windows, Sym etc.
but finally - i can use command-line stuff like putty properly!

dalelane said:
...i'll start with CAP LOCK...
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PS - i've never noticed that about my Exec keyboard before, but shouldn't it really be CAPS LOCK?

I wrote a guide to use PQz.
Here is a URL.
http://www.nicque.com/PQz
thank you.

thanks
tom_hiro255 said:
I wrote a guide to use PQz.
Here is a URL.
http://www.nicque.com/PQz
thank you.
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Great software, great guide. Thanks!

Working while keeping the ctrl-key pressed?
Great software! Thank you for that.
To make it perfect in my eyes, it would be great, if it would work as well, as long as you keep the key pressed. I would need it to jump word by word keeping the ctrl-key pressed and moving by hitting the arrow-keys. Would that be possible?
Regards,
Jogi

Re: Working while keeping the ctrl-key pressed?
Jogi said:
To make it perfect in my eyes, it would be great, if it would work as well, as long as you keep the key pressed. I would need it to jump word by word keeping the ctrl-key pressed and moving by hitting the arrow-keys. Would that be possible?
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I agree - this is how I would want it to work.
I haven't tried this software yet but I want to. Can anybody answer this question please? The user guide didn't seem to give me the answer:
Can I program the software to give me <FN> + <SHIFT> = <CTRL> ?
I.e. can I hold down FN and SHIFT to get the Ctrl function? Is that a combination of keys that's supported in the dropdown selectors? I don't want to lose an existing key to get the Ctrl function if I can avoid it.
And yes, I want everything!

Superb. Makes my Exec a whole lot more useful.

Has anyone figured out how to copy some text as any highlighted text gets wiped out when you enter 'C'
Mike

ctrl+c it just works. Doesn't clear the text at all.

is there a way to use the button mapped to Ctrl solely for Ctrl?
I use "CAP LOCK" as Ctrl, and although it works fine as Ctrl, when I start typing again, my writing is all in caps :-(

iPhone App for WM - LookAlike

Thread Moved to : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1710253#post1710253
Please close this thread someone

I like it, good work. I like it especially it is a 3rd party software so that I can keep my Today screen. BTW, whats the diff of yours compared to the one at the other thread?
Anyway, although getting the aye-Phone interface is good for a start, I think it ought to be able to get some artist to make a better looking interface than aye-Phone.
BTW, as suggestion (for feature), I'm just wondering if you can make your app to respond to the D-Pad (the directional button), like those (say) SonyE phone and then display another graphics to show that the button is being selected.
Design case example:
All icons are black-white. Using your directional button, it goes from one icon to another. The selected icon will have colour (depending on design), and pushing the 'action' button will make it launch the app.
Final thing, whats the difference between yours and the one mentioned at the other thread?

hanmin said:
I like it, good work. I like it especially it is a 3rd party software so that I can keep my Today screen. BTW, whats the diff of yours compared to the one at the other thread?
Anyway, although getting the aye-Phone interface is good for a start, I think it ought to be able to get some artist to make a better looking interface than aye-Phone.
BTW, as suggestion (for feature), I'm just wondering if you can make your app to respond to the D-Pad (the directional button), like those (say) SonyE phone and then display another graphics to show that the button is being selected.
Design case example:
All icons are black-white. Using your directional button, it goes from one icon to another. The selected icon will have colour (depending on design), and pushing the 'action' button will make it launch the app.
Final thing, whats the difference between yours and the one mentioned at the other thread?
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The Difference is that the other one was in 12/24 hour format, it has no exit button, its 1Meg in size, it has some memory leaks that people complained about. Im sure mine has issues as well so please test and let me know.
I can possible make it work on the dialpad with different icons when they have focus. I just wanne make sure it wont eat too much memory and become to slow. Im not good with graphics at all so any suggestions will be appreciated

I was thinking of a config module, for easier? configuration.
interested?

Inphyy said:
I was thinking of a config module, for easier? configuration.
interested?
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Good Idea, Ill work on that unless you wanna make it? What do you mean by enabled, should it not show or should it be grayed out?

Grumps said:
Good Idea, Ill work on that unless you wanna make it? What do you mean by enabled, should it not show or should it be grayed out?
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I can try make it(i hope). Kinda newbie at programing, but i think i can make it work.
should i make it a seperate app and just make it change the config files?
think that would be the easiest, maybe.

Inphyy said:
I can try make it(i hope). Kinda newbie at programing, but i think i can make it work.
should i make it a seperate app and just make it change the config files?
think that would be the easiest, maybe.
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Yep write a new app if you want and access the config files it would be the easiest. Im also new at programming. What i know i taught myself so thats why its so difficult to do this. This app took my 8 hours to write and im sure someone else could have done it faster and better. Lemme know if you know how to get the Network operator name and Signal strength and battery level out of the registry. I know where they are stored but cant seem to read data from the registry

try this one: http://www.developerfusion.co.uk/show/4640/2/
dunno what you can make out of it, since im learning VB.NET atm and have no clue about C#
found something from a previous app i made for windows, here is some of the code i used, dunno how it's done in C# but im guessing it wouldnt be very different
Imports Microsoft.Win32
Dim RegKey As RegistryKey
Dim regSubKey As RegistryKey
RegKey = Registry.LocalMachine
regSubKey = RegKey.CreateSubKey("SOFTWARE\Example")
regSubKey.SetValue("ExampleDwordValue", "0")
i think i would have used
regSubKey.GetValue("ExampleValue")
in VB but you should just try to find it.
hope it helps you in some way.

Lightweight and fast is good. As what you're doing is basically possible with WA + WAD. BTW, as for the settings, you may want to have the (4 x 4) + (1 x 4) icon grid flexible, incase people want to have large icons (less stuff to launch?). An ayeFone alternatives design, take a look here
http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2007/04/deeda_piphone_up_next.html
More at the official page
http://www.deeda.com/

Grumps said:
Good Idea, Ill work on that unless you wanna make it? What do you mean by enabled, should it not show or should it be grayed out?
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I was thinking of removing the whole icon if you dont want it
edit: removing as in hiding

Follow Up
I got the signal strengt working as well as reading the operator name from the registry. The only help i need now is to get the battery level from somewhere withing the registry, ill update the zip files on th first post

sounds good with the provider and signal info, will test it right now.
the icons: since i just arrived home, i did not have any new icons yet. but for workaround reasons, i attached a zip-file with the original iphone-icons , and a zip-file with the alternative icons. i numbered them in the original-iphone-order and added an additional rss-icon (for the 16. field).
(i was not really shure why you choose these other icons in the release (where are they from?)), but the original icons worked just fine for me. the alternatives also.
a blurry picture with before-and-after (left->your release right-> the original icons) is also attached.

nicolas said:
sounds good with the provider and signal info, will test it right now.
the icons: since i just arrived home, i did not have any new icons yet. but for workaround reasons, i attached a zip-file with the original iphone-icons , and a zip-file with the alternative icons. i numbered them in the original-iphone-order and added an additional rss-icon (for the 16. field).
(i was not really shure why you choose these other icons in the release (where are they from?)), but the original icons worked just fine for me. the alternatives also.
a blurry picture with before-and-after (left->your release right-> the original icons) is also attached.
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I was just messing around to see if the autosizing will work, the icons you have look good so ill use them. I still need an .ico file for the actual app. Any Ideas? O i attached a screen capture app you can try so you dont have to take funny pics hehe

Grumps said:
I was just messing around to see if the autosizing will work, the icons you have look good so ill use them. I still need an .ico file for the actual app. Any Ideas? O i attached a screen capture app you can try so you dont have to take funny pics hehe
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roger that! and thanks for the screen-capture application.
i'll try to install it via parallels (a mac and a pocket pc is a disastreous combination )
one request: maybe you should use version-numbers by now. its hard to follow which iphone-zip-folder is the "up to date" one.

nicolas said:
roger that! and thanks for the screen-capture application.
i'll try to install it via parallels (a mac and a pocket pc is a disastreous combination )
one request: maybe you should use version-numbers by now. its hard to follow which iphone-zip-folder is the "up to date" one.
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Ok ive changed it version 0.91

Grumps said:
I got the signal strengt working as well as reading the operator name from the registry. The only help i need now is to get the battery level from somewhere withing the registry, ill update the zip files on th first post
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Tried using SNAPI?
Trying to remember but I think it was something like SystemState.GetValue(SystemProperty.PowerBatteryStrength).
Will test/check when I get home
*Edit* If you don't want to download the sn api then I think wm stores all state information in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\State (battery strength, display orientation, num missed calls, num new sms's etc) */Edit*

Erg, sorry, just noticed the "Visual Studio 2003" part now. SNAPI requires 2005 afaik. Gonna have to grab it from manually from HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\Status\Battery

ok just tried the latest release. could it be that other file-extensions then *.exe are not recognized?
i.e.: .tr3 or .lnk (i tried to access a tomeraider file and a link to my contacts - but no luck)
furthermore, german pathnames including umlaute ÄÖÜßöäü doesnt work
attachment: was in need for a quick wikipedi /wikimedia icon

does this one have the slide lock?

Link to the other Lock-file

No hardware keypboard!

I love my x7500, except this hardware keyboard that is poorly designed and not very functional. But there is the way to use this device and type very fast with built in software keyboard! Just go to the Options for keyboard and change size to Large. Now keys are accessible without using a stylus! I am very happy now.
No need to carry stinkin' keybard no more

ID64 said:
I love my x7500, except this hardware keyboard that is poorly designed and not very functional. But there is the way to use this device and type very fast with built in software keyboard! Just go to the Options for keyboard and change size to Large. Now keys are accessible without using a stylus! I am very happy now.
No need to carry stinkin' keybard no more
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even the hardware keyboard isn't that good compare to Universal, i still find it quicker compare to the soft keyboard.

Does anybody know anything technical about the KB? It should be possible to make our own keyboards for the Athena if we can just find out a little about it.
Imagine a small clip on adaptor that sticks to the bottom and has a PS2 socket on it

I've considered making a magnetic ribbon cable for "detached" use. Where you hold the keyboard in your hand and it's connected to the Athena via a magnetic cable that attached to the two components. Not sure if this would be worth anything to anyone out there but it should be VERY easy to make.

I also wondered if there was support for a docking station like use, with charger and keyboard plugged in, so you pop the athena into it and it charges as well as connects the KB.
You dont suppose the kb is actualy just USB do you?

I think some kind of slide down qwerty keyboard similar to the hermes / spv m3100 would be great. That way the keyboard could clip on the back of the Ameo and then the keyboard could slide out? if you get me?
The magnetic keyboards great if your at home, or in the office, but out and about its not practical.
I do agree that the software keyboards pretty good with large keys, thats what i use.

Yes, a slide out KB could easily be incorperated into a clip on protective case. In fact, you wouldnt need a new bk. Just mount the existing one into the slide part of the case, where the case would have a ribbon cable to make the connections.
There is a HUGE market for third party KB mods for the Athena, HTC really missed a trick here by not having some alternate kbs ready at launch.
For example, why doesnt the Dock have a KB? or a KB socket? Jeez, its not hard to put a ps2 socket in the dock, or a slot to put the normal Athena KB into it!
How about a large full size KB with Athena connector in it...

have you guys tried go-ten yet? Nothing can match this in terms of accuracy and speed. I've tried Resco, Spb, Hikeyboard, the standard default both big and small, and nothing come even remotely closed to the ease and speed of go-TEN for me. It is unconventional at first glance, but once you see it, you may wonder why was'nt all soft input keyboard so smart, easy, and quick. If you use predictive text in SMS you may get the idea right away.
There is very very small learning curve only. Only six keys most is the times, but you have the option is pressing all 26 characters.Best thing is there is a free version.
Try it, and you won't want the hardware keyboard again.

eaglesteve said:
have you guys tried go-ten yet? Nothing can match this in terms of accuracy and speed. I've tried Resco, Spb, Hikeyboard, the standard default both big and small, and nothing come even remotely closed to the ease and speed of go-TEN for me. It is unconventional at first glance, but once you see it, you may wonder why was'nt all soft input keyboard so smart, easy, and quick. If you use predictive text in SMS you may get the idea right away.
There is very very small learning curve only. Only six keys most is the times, but you have the option is pressing all 26 characters.Best thing is there is a free version.
Try it, and you won't want the hardware keyboard again.
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Do you mean TenGo??? Dude you had me searching the wrong thing on Google because I didn't want to be lazy and ask for a link. LOL
Check spelling bro.
Here's a link for those that want to look into his suggestion
http://www.tengo.net/4100/tengokeybd_sipintro.html

eaglesteve said:
have you guys tried go-ten yet? Nothing can match this in terms of accuracy and speed. I've tried Resco, Spb, Hikeyboard, the standard default both big and small, and nothing come even remotely closed to the ease and speed of go-TEN for me. It is unconventional at first glance, but once you see it, you may wonder why was'nt all soft input keyboard so smart, easy, and quick. If you use predictive text in SMS you may get the idea right away.
There is very very small learning curve only. Only six keys most is the times, but you have the option is pressing all 26 characters.Best thing is there is a free version.
Try it, and you won't want the hardware keyboard again.
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Hi eaglesteve.
Do you have a link to this software or developer info etc please? can't seem to find anything when googling for it.
Cheers.

No worries found it. Thanks for the heads up.
http://www.tengo.net/tengo_pocketpc.html

ID64 said:
I love my x7500, except this hardware keyboard that is poorly designed and not very functional. But there is the way to use this device and type very fast with built in software keyboard! Just go to the Options for keyboard and change size to Large. Now keys are accessible without using a stylus! I am very happy now.
No need to carry stinkin' keybard no more
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Tere Igor
Have you tried any of the soft keyboard options out there?

TenGo is not as intuitive as it appears, but is smart software.
OK just given the TenGo SIP a good run for it's money tonight. It is a very nice lookin application that has real potential.....BUT....the learning curve is a major drawback IMHO and not worth the time to learn. Why do I say that?
Firstly, I/we use QWERTY keyboards of one type or another every day and wether it's afull sized USB PC keyboard or a slide-out PPC keboard or SIP based, the QWERTY principle really has left an intuitive mark on me at least over the years and learning a new system does not make much sense to me if it is not going to be everywhere....just on my Ameo.
2ndly, I have no time to keep checking if the predictive text has recognised the word I intended for it to type. I mean if you don't check what you're typing regularly, then by the time you've reached the end of your document/txt, you'll struggle to make sense of what you have typed yourself!
3rd and last, I like to use slang terminology and this causes the predictive technology more problems in recognising what I have typed e.g. it will try to guess what slang I have used and effectively translate it to something similar in it's perfect english database.
Verdict? Perfect for those who write perfect english all the time and have the time to learn and train a new system,....BUT useless for those who already know what they want to type and just want it done quickly without spell checking every word as they type. It is very smart software indeed, but not natural or smart enough for the human mind. Gimme a larger SIP panel instead.
Not for me, but thanks for the heads-up.

mackaby007 said:
3rd and last, I like to use slang terminology and this causes the predictive technology more problems in recognising what I have typed e.g. it will try to guess what slang I have used and effectively translate it to something similar in it's perfect english database.
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Same for me but for me it's the fact that I regularly communicate in a number of languages.

mackaby007 said:
OK just given the TenGo SIP a good run for it's money tonight. It is a very nice lookin application that has real potential.....BUT....the learning curve is a major drawback IMHO and not worth the time to learn. Why do I say that?
Firstly, I/we use QWERTY keyboards of one type or another every day and wether it's afull sized USB PC keyboard or a slide-out PPC keboard or SIP based, the QWERTY principle really has left an intuitive mark on me at least over the years and learning a new system does not make much sense to me if it is not going to be everywhere....just on my Ameo.
2ndly, I have no time to keep checking if the predictive text has recognised the word I intended for it to type. I mean if you don't check what you're typing regularly, then by the time you've reached the end of your document/txt, you'll struggle to make sense of what you have typed yourself!
3rd and last, I like to use slang terminology and this causes the predictive technology more problems in recognising what I have typed e.g. it will try to guess what slang I have used and effectively translate it to something similar in it's perfect english database.
Verdict? Perfect for those who write perfect english all the time and have the time to learn and train a new system,....BUT useless for those who already know what they want to type and just want it done quickly without spell checking every word as they type. It is very smart software indeed, but not natural or smart enough for the human mind. Gimme a larger SIP panel instead.
Not for me, but thanks for the heads-up.
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Ha ha, that was my first reaction too. So I almost passed it up initially without giving it a fair chance.
This are the facts:
1. You have not given up your qwert keyboard. It is still functioning 100% as one. If you choose to press the precise position of each individual 26 keys, what u type on is also one of the words that can b selected. Therefore you can still use slang such as lol, gtg,brb,etc. C how I can intentionally use shortened words on this post?
2. It is to b thought is as a very forgiving qwert keyboard, because of the built-in intelligence. You can type in the exact spelling of your words, not just limited to the words in the dictionary.becausr while it tries to predict what you want to type, what you actually type also appears as one of the choices. Now you see why slang is not a problem?
3. the system is actually very smart in selecting the default hint word out of all the suggested ones. The default choice is the underlined and first hint word. You don't need to do anything in order to select it other than the space bar ( which u hve 2 anyway w normal qwert keyboard) The only difference is u need not be precise in typing. U merely hve 2 touch the correct keygroup. U got it?
I thnk u r really going 2 like it once u go thru the 3 min tutorial. THERE IS ALMOST NO LEARNING CURVE!
JUST WATCH YOUR TYPING SPEED FLIES!

btw, there is a known problem with tengo installation. You may have problem selecting this as the default sip, or even selecting it.
i'll find the thread later and post it here.

eaglesteve said:
btw, there is a known problem with tengo installation. You may have problem selecting this as the default sip, or even selecting it.
i'll find the thread later and post it here.
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Installation problems aside, I agree that one can write a very nifty speeds and that the learning curve can appear to be low. My point was that it is not natural, certainly not to me.
I see your point about being able to use slang, but as it will not be the default word selected, you have to select it yourself each time you use it or teach the database a new word (slang) in order for it to recognise it in the future.
If it works well for you eaglesteve that's great and I wish I was as capable at adapting as you are, but for me and possibly for others, I'm looking for a SIP keyboard that will help to improve/enhance the way I'm already used to typing without feeling unsure if my document/txt is being typed correctly. I know you know what I mean.
However as your experience has taught you, maybe one evenings worth of testing is not enough for me to dismiss it so easily. But then I have kept it installed for further testing alongside my usual SIP methods.
Thanks again for the heads up though.

mackaby007 said:
No worries found it. Thanks for the heads up.
http://www.tengo.net/tengo_pocketpc.html
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go here for free tengo:
http://free.tengo.net/
Go here for commercial versions"
www.tengo.net
It supports vga
You may use it exactly the same way as your old qwert board is you go choose.
But then,you'll right away realise that there is a much easier way....quicker... More flexible..enjoy.

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I see your point about being able to use slang, but as it will not be the default word selected, you have to select it yourself each time you use it or teach the database a new word (slang) in order for it to recognise it in the future.
I'm looking for a SIP keyboard that will help to improve/enhance the way I'm already used to typing without feeling unsure if my document/txt is being typed correctly. I know you know what I mean.
though.
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You don't have to teach the dictionary that the slang is a valid word. when you use it the first time, there will be an audio warning. But if you used it once, it automatically gets into the dictionary, and become just another normal word the next time you type it
Funny it is exactly because I want an SIP keyboard that will help to improve/enhance the way I'm already used to typing without feeling unsure if my document/txt is being typed correctly that I think tengo is the answer.

mackaby007 said:
Hi eaglesteve.
Do you have a link to this software or developer info etc please? can't seem to find anything when googling for it.
Cheers.
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http://www.tengo.net/

How important is D-pad to you?

The missing D-pad has caused a bit of discussion. Some say it is completely unnecessary to have a D-pad, some say it is useless piece of device without it, some say the device is very difficult to use without it, while others say it is only a minor annoyance.
I would like to do this survey, and hopefully the design team in HTC will see the result and take it into account when designing the successor to Touch HD.
For those who vote that the device is impossible to use or a major inconvinience, please explain your case to to support why you have voted that way. This is to give others the chance to help you find alternative ways of using the device, and perhaps increase your satisfaction.

Its the one thing i am really missing on my HD........

I don't have mine yet.
But when I had the SonyEricsson P900 and Nokia 7710, I didn't use the hardware buttons much.
Though not having an "enter" button could be an annoyance.

...Which DPad? can you please remind me, after two weeks of touch HD, why do you need a Dpad and for what?

SingaporeAirlines said:
Though not having an "enter" button could be an annoyance.
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It should be possible to re-map any of the other buttons to "enter" ???
Also, at first I voted 'important', but then I considered the only times I really used the D-pad was for browsing and for some games, which I haven't been playing for a long time.
After all I think basically everything could be managed by using fingers or stylus.

pzucchel said:
...Which DPad? can you please remind me, after two weeks of touch HD, why do you need a Dpad and for what?
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Well I like it in Pocket informant contacts, the work around is to open the sip as this has the left, right, up, down, enter, just wish I could have those keys with out the Letters.
Maybe on a rainy day somebody will modify the Keyboard files and save it as a D-pad Keyboard.
That way you could swap the keyboard from standard to DPAD over the up icon at the bottom middle of the screen (the setings menu).

I didnt like it at the start, but Im not use to using it without it and I dont miss it anymore.

I got into a royal rumble with some psychos (who wanted to convince me that the lack of TV-OUT is worse than Armageddon) earlier so I will just post a few points I used previously:
1. If I am using a TOUCH screen I don't expect to NEED a D-pad.
2. If I am using a NON-TOUCH phone, then by all means, I am going to need a D-pad.
I can't be any clearer than this.
Now, if I do need a D-Pad then either:
A.) I don't understand the concept of a TOUCH screen.
B.) I play games like a 4 year old on my $1,000 SMARTphone.
C.) The screen sensitivity sucks and the software sucks even more.
C is on the manufacturer- if I just bought a TOUCH-screen phone and I NEED a D-Pad then they have F'n failed miserably. And I guess I have failed as a consumer for not doing my research.
These are MY thoughts, since you asked.

Back in the ipaq days, those units came with a sleeve you can attach for for example, a keyboard, CF expansion slot etc.. I wonder if there can be a USB expansion for a Dpad?

a soft d-pad
a d-pad works well when using the phone single-handed where you need the more precise control.
As suggested above a "soft" d-pad would probably be just as good, especially with haptic feedback and large buttons... anyone...?

A Soft-D-Pad would be excellent.

All device should have a dpad
Every time I see a device without a dpad I shake my head because it always looks as if a 5way would have fit in nicely. Its retarded to eave it out for looks! It is such a pain to navigate a cursor threw text with your finger.

Remembering my P900 days, that six-way wheel thing on the side was pretty nice.
They could have done something like that.

I have no necessary use for a dpad with my customized rom & apps...

galaxys said:
I have no necessary use for a dpad with my customized rom & apps...
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Why is that? In what way does the customized rom & apps help?
From my perspective, I missed D-pad only in mails application, MP3. In your rom, how is navigating from mail to mail, from mail account to another account, screen blanking and unblanking, song skipping done?
Appreciate you sharing these tips with us. Thanks.

jamespaulritter said:
Every time I see a device without a dpad I shake my head because it always looks as if a 5way would have fit in nicely. Its retarded to eave it out for looks! It is such a pain to navigate a cursor threw text with your finger.
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Are you refering to things like page up, page down of a document? Do you not have FtouchFLO, FtouchSL and stuff like that to do the same thing? I don't use D-pad for things like these.

maati said:
A Soft-D-Pad would be excellent.
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I suppose if the D-pad is not a soft keyboard the use of which involves changing the keyboard first, then it would be okay. If it is a soft keyboard, then I think it is not worth the trouble.

exe said:
Back in the ipaq days, those units came with a sleeve you can attach for for example, a keyboard, CF expansion slot etc.. I wonder if there can be a USB expansion for a Dpad?
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Then what? You have something dangling out from the HD's USB port?

For the four posters who said HD is useless without the D-pad, would you mind describing what applicatoins and what you were trying to do that were made impossible due to the lack of D-pad?
Thanks and cheers.

eaglesteve said:
Are you refering to things like page up, page down of a document? Do you not have FtouchFLO, FtouchSL and stuff like that to do the same thing? I don't use D-pad for things like these.
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I do not mean page up or page down. I think it is difficult to place and move a cursor threw text such as when you are editing a few words here and there in a document.