hi to all
just wondering if anyone has any experience using a multi-simcard in a wizard (or any variant) and how it has gone.
just to make things clear, when i say multi-simcard, i mean one of the simcards you can purchase which allow you to copy over multiple sim identities from single sims to one card. im not talking about the dual-sims where you cut out the sims.
this means that you dont have to replace sims if you want to use different numbers/networks.
i know that the software you install which adds a specific menu to enable the swapping that comes with the card will work for say nokias, but im not sure if theres a mw5 equivalent.
linked to this, is it possible to have multiple mobile network operator profiles/settings on the wizard?
sorry - new to the whole ppc game!!
any help/advice would be greatly appreciated...
dan
below if a paste of the text from the web site i read for information:
Clone 16 GSM SIM Card to 1 Multi Card
With the NEW packing This Super SIM card/ and software hardware pack you can clone your most frequently used sim card mobile numbers from different areas, countries or different networks. You can now clone up to 16 numbers onto just one Multi-SIM card. When you need to switch your number to another, just use your finger to press few buttons. The req number can be switched into another on line and without powering your phone off and on. much easier then switching sim cards. It is a powerful tool for business people who often travel around the world, and young people who love to show their recognition and uniqueness. Now, one SIM card can hold 16 mobile numbers. You can enjoy your life on your fingers. The Multi SIM package contains one MultiSim card which stores up to 16 cloned numbers and software on CD, a multi sim card, sim card reader/writer with CN-3687082 computer Interface.
Support GSM COMP128-V1
OTHER VERSION NOT SUPPORT
II. Hardware Request
Hardware:
1. P II or above CPU, recommended is PIII 500.
2. 64MB or more RAM.
3. 20MB or more hard disk space.
4. CD ROM.
5. Usb port version (New)
Software:
Windows 98/ME/NT/2000/XP.
Function Description
1. Connect! Program will connect to Card Reader, if program can’t connect that, it will pop up a window with error messages.
2. Phone book Phone book functions group.
3. New Open a new phone book.
4. Open Open a phone book file.
5. Save As Save as a phone book file.
6. Save to Text File Save phone book data to a Text file.
7. Read From SIM Card Read phone book data from SIM Card.
8. Write To SIM Card Write Phone book data to phone book.
9. Message Short message function group/
New Open a new message
Open Open a exist message file
Save As Save as a message file.
Save to Text file Save to text file.
Read from SIM Card Read short message
Write To SIM Card Write Phone book to SIM Card.
10. Edit Edit function group
11. Edit Edit a record
12. Insert Insert a new record
13. Clear Clear a record.
14. Delete Delete a record
15. Cut Cut a record to clipboard.
16. Copy Copy a record to clipboard
17. Paste Paste a record from clipboard.
18. Select all Select all records.
19. PIN Manager PIN manager function group
20. PIN 1 state Set PIN 1 State
21. PIN 1 Password Set PIN 1 Password
22. Option Option
23. System configuration System configuration
24. Language Select language
25. Help Help function group
26. SIM Editor Help SIM Editor help file.
All backUp function support A3A8 COMP128V1 SIM Card only which are the 98% of sim cards worldwide
This SIM Card Back-UP device doesn't support newest SIM Card that uses COMP128V2 algorithm to code KI key
Some GSM SIM Cards from 2001 (COMP128V1) are Scan-Limited. It has limited running scan times. If the scan is over the limit, the SIM Card will be locked and will not work any more. So don't scan the same SIM excessively if not necessary.
Hints to distinguish between V1 and V2 sim cards:
SIM cards issued before JUNE 2002 most likely are COMP128v1 SIM cards
Phone book capacity more than 250 entries most likely are COMP128v2 SIM cards
When two or more SIM cards with same number (original and cloned) are in used:
Both phones can dial out but NOT in the same time
Only the latest dialed out or powered on phone can receives calls, the other phone will not ring
If one phone is officially turned off (e.g. by switch off the power button), the other phone can't receives calls even though it's still power on, the other phone must make a call in order to make it can receives calls again.
funkydan said:
All backUp function support A3A8 COMP128V1 SIM Card only which are the 98% of sim cards worldwide
This SIM Card Back-UP device doesn't support newest SIM Card that uses COMP128V2 algorithm to code KI key
Some GSM SIM Cards from 2001 (COMP128V1) are Scan-Limited. It has limited running scan times. If the scan is over the limit, the SIM Card will be locked and will not work any more. So don't scan the same SIM excessively if not necessary.
Hints to distinguish between V1 and V2 sim cards:
SIM cards issued before JUNE 2002 most likely are COMP128v1 SIM cards
Phone book capacity more than 250 entries most likely are COMP128v2 SIM cards
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If you have very old Sims or are in eastern europe where they are reported to still use the older Sims then you're okay otherwise you can't copy the Sims so everything else is irrelevant.
Related
Did a search for SD cards and it came up with a SIM EMU post on this site. So going off topic, whats SIM EMU, what can it do for me, where can i get it (tried the link, that didn't work, tried a search and most of the sites aren'ti n english)
Seems like you can put more than one number on a card and switch without having to turn the phone off. Any further input, sounds like it could be good.
Will not work in UK, I found to my cost after destroying 2 sim cards. There is another twin sim holder that works with xda2 though, you just switch off and on when you wish to change sims.
Simemu is indeed a very good way to have up to eight numbers/accounts on one sim card. You select which one to use by pin number, so no more swapping cards over. It works fine in the XDA and just about any other unlocked phone.
The hard part is getting the needed info out of your original sim card. This is called the "Ki" and needs to be extracted. In the UK this has only been possible with all Orange and some O2 cards, never with Vodafone.
In the last year or so, some sims have appeared with a limit on the number of cycles they will run before self destructing, so attempting to extract the Ki can harm the card.
So it all depends on what networks you want to use and how old your sims are.
So can this be done with orange UK sims? My sims are about 4 years old, i have one thats much older, but i cancelled the contract on that so presumably disabled. Also have a couple of active PAYG sims.
I'd be interested to merge the new contract i have with an old number on the same card, would be useful.
I'm currently using everyphone divert, but it diverts all the time, even when my new [hone is off and old one is on. Annoying.
Other pain is it doesn't divert SMS, so i quite often miss them.
Yes, UK Orange cards of this age should be easy to extract the Ki from, payg or contract.
Also if you manage to get the Ki from the de-activated card, you should be able to get Orange to turn it back on as a payg or something.
Remember that only one number can be active at any one time, and you must never have the original sim turned on in another phone while using the copy of it in the multi sim.
Thanks for your replys kerr.
Have you done this yourself? Do you have any links of where i can find out information on how to effeectively try it and get it done?
All i'm looking for is that i have a sim with a great number. Its on orange no monthly tariff (i just pay for calls and just get a bill when i use it) Thats great for me as i hardly use it.
Then i got a new phone on contract (as it was way cheaper than upgrade). I've set up an everyphone divert from my old number to this one, but that annoys me as even with new one off and old one on, it still diverts. Shame.
So if i could get both numbers on the same sim that would be great, in principal! I get my number that i like, and i can quickly swith to new number to make calls (as its got free minutes). After the year contract is up i'll dump the new number anyway.
Whay can't you have the original sim on if its cloned?
Cheers
If you have the original sim switched on at the same time as the clone the system will know about it and you will probaly end up with a zapped sim courtesy of your provider.
there has to be a way around that :wink:
Have you done this yourself?
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Yes, I made a card about 2 1/2 years ago which contains:-
1X O2 Anytime account
1X O2 Offpeak account
1X Genie PAYT
3X Orange PAYT with different off peak times chosen
1X Spanish PAYT
1X Greek PAYT
It has worked fine in every phone I have tried it in.
Whay can't you have the original sim on if its cloned?
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You must not have them both on at the same time because they will both log onto the network and appear to be some kind of fraud attempt. (Somone else trying to use your account)
You really need to programme the card yourself rather than get it done because the last thing you would want is anyone else knowing your Ki.
To do this you would need a phoenix, a pic programmer and a blank silver card. All the software is free.
That sounds like one action packed card!
It would be useful just to have a couple of numbers on there, but you seem to be making the most of it!
Where can the exquipment be bought, borrowed? Is it readily available and cheap?
I see what you mean about someone else having the details. Could be a bit dodgy.
So this method is a bit like having a double sim car thing, but instead of having to turn the machine on and off, you can just put in a pin number.
With the XDA II tho, would the double sim card thing work if you turned flight mode off then on, would that switch the sims? Where can a double sim holder be got from
If you know anyone who is into Satellite Television, they will almost certainly have everything you need to do the job.
If you need to buy take a look at www.interesting-devices.com or www.maxking.co.uk. You could also look in the sat section on ebay.
If you go for a multi programmer like a Mastera, it would be all that is needed in one. See www.mcsat.co.uk.
When you change between numbers the phone does a soft reset, so I imagine flight mode on/off would have the same effect on a twin sim.
Using Supersim
Hello,
i read somewere that's impossible with new sim to read the Ki code of the sim because this code is read-protected.
Tring to read this you can destroy the sim.
It's correct?
I have an italian sim by vodafone!
Thanks for the reply.
Davide
Yes, that's right. Most of the newest SIM cards has a newer algorithm, so u cannot clone it. I don't know about your SIM card, maybe you have an old one. However, if U have 250 entry names in your phonebook, than it's probably new one and it could not be read, but do not be afraid to destroy it..., that will happen if U'l try to read it a few hours again and again....hope this helps!
Regards!
P.S.:
All backUp function support A3A8 COMP128V1 SIM Card only.
This SIM Card Back-UP device doesn't support newest SIM Card that uses COMP128V2 algorythm to code KI key.
Some GSM SIM Cards from 2001 (COMP128V1) are Scan-Limited. It has limited running scan 65536 times. If the scan is over 65536, the SIM Card will be locked. This SIM Card will not work any more.
All backUp function support A3A8 COMP128V1 SIM Card only.
This SIM Card Back-UP device doesn't support newest SIM Card that uses COMP128V2 algorythm to code KI key.
Some GSM SIM Cards from 2001 (COMP128V1) are Scan-Limited. It has limited running scan 65536 times. If the scan is over 65536, the SIM Card will be locked. This SIM Card will not work any more.
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Hello,
i read somewere that's impossible with new sim to read the Ki code of the sim because this code is read-protected.
Tring to read this you can destroy the sim.
It's correct?
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Ki is stored in SIM card like CHV in respective file, but in Ki file's header all permission bytes are FF, e. g. it is impossible to read/write etc. with this file from external. From internal (COS) it is possible to read... the SIM do this when it calculate SRES+Kc
hello ppl .....i no i am sounding a little over the top but is it possible in any way 2 clone ur simcard in order 2 have the same number i.e cellular fone number on another sim card as well. BUT USING THE XDA 2
IS THERE ANY SOFTWARE CREATED THAT JUST COPIES THE SIM THRU USB CRADLE AND WHEN U PLACE A NEW SIM IN IT IT JUST CLONES IT DIRECTLY ..... IF ANY ONE KNOWS OF ANY SUCH SOFTWARE PLZ REPLY TO THIS POST OR PM ME THANX A LOT
To answer your question is it possible, yes, but I wouldn't recommend it. To start I think it's illegal, and certain hardware and software is required. It would be handy though to use a smaller phone during a night on the p*ss without having to remove the battery and thus hard resetting :evil:
nice topic raunak ......
i am also searching for the same .
dont know anything about it yet if it is possible.
but as twichibi said its illegal.
i am searching for it ,
will post link if i found something interesting.
Some background:
To make clone you need:
1. Buy some kind of "microcomputer" incorprated into sim-size plastic smart card (a PIC16F877 controller with additional flash memory: "Green card" / "Silver card" or other models)
2. Program this microcontroller with firmware that emulates functionality of GSM SIM card (check http://simemu.cjb.net/ ). To reprogram PIC controller you need specific smart card programmator. And this is impossible with any mobile phone or HTC hardware.
OR 1+2: buy ready-to-use empty multisim card. There are should be a lot of them available via internet.
3. "Hack" original SIM card to extract IMSI and Ki parameters using old SIM security weakness. There are such software (e.g. search for sim_scan2). Note, that this operation is not safe: you may broke your SIM due to limitations by SIM card provider. And NOT ALL of the SIM card may be cracked in such way because some of the operators use newer SIMs. This step requires another kind of SIM card reader (Phoenix) and technically may be done with HTC hardware. BUT there are no sim_scan - like software for WinCE.
4. Enter IMSI and Ki parameters into SIM emulator. This may be done with any phone or HTC hardware via SIM menu.
That's the story. One more note: please do not ask someone (untrusted person or company) to find Ki&IMSI from your SIM. This will give them the possibility to create and use clones of your SIM card And I also saw the modified sim_scan which silently e-mail your Ki&IMSI to someone after hacking
Links:
http://www.multisimcard.ru/ (Russian only)
http://ucables.com/products/simcards/index.htm
http://simemu.cjb.net/
http://forum.web-hack.ru/index.php?showtopic=15200 (Russian only)
Hi,
Is there any possibility to update Phone software in TyTN or do anything to could make a sim card images ?
I have 3 sim cards and use them often, but always have to replace them in my TyTN by taking battery out and in...
If sim card is a data card, I thought that maybe there us any chance to use some software like for normal CD Image...
Have you ever heard about something like that ?
There are multi-SIM cards which offer the ability to store multiple individual SIMs and activate whichever one you want (though it's always only 1 live card at any given time). Basically, you use a computer to copy multiple SIM cards' information all onto one card, then use the multi-SIM software on the phone to switch between them.
However, most modern SIM cards are encrypted and if you try too hard to decrypt it, the SIM card can actually break as a result. For example, I'm told that most SIM cards you get in the UK these days are more or less uncrackable for this purpose. But I'm not sure about the situation in other countries.
Does anybody know if there is any software that enables us to switch between the two lines by menu and automatically forwards the line in between
Dual SIM Card
I am not sure ... but here what I got from the internet:
http://www.fonefunshop.co.uk/dualsim/dualsimcovers.htm
Compatible with the latest Worldwide SIM cards comp V1, V2 and V3 all supported.
Change the sim on the phones menu
Use 2 sim cards with 1 mobile phone
Switch between 2 cards directly, no need to turn your phone on and off.
No need to change the cover or back of your phone
http://www.magicsim.com/
... dual sim card is a improved one that with higher compatibility to the mobiles and can work with both GSM and 3G mobiles.
http://www.simore.ch/
Simore is a smart device
of dual SIM card which allows
you to install two different SIM cards into one mobile phone. You can therefore use two different numbers with one single mobile phone. You can switch from one number to the other in two clicks without switching off your mobile phone.
http://ucables.com/ref/DUAL-SIM
With this new design you no longer have to turn off your phone to change between numbers, change the look of your phone with a thicker housing or enter pins to change lines. With this new desing you can do all the switching directly from the main menu of the phone.
http://duosim.com
Please let us know if it works
Thanks gogol. I did not mean dual sim adapter. I have only one sim card with two lines in it. When you use it in a Nokia for example, it pops up a new menu where you could switch between the lines without manually forward the passive line to the active one and put the phone off and then back on. It does not work on my new JASJAM. Every time I need to switch to the other line, first I need to forward my line 1 to line 2. Switch off the phone, and back on by using pin number of line 2, disable call forwarding of line 2 etc..
Do you know any application which does these things on WM5?
You mean something like Orange Line Two right? http://www2.orange.co.uk/servlet/Satellite?pagename=OUKPersonal/Service&cid=1096023563451
I don't think Windows Mobile PDA's support this feature.
Yes exactly the same service as Orange Line 2
i have a g1 but it doesnt made the unlock code request.
and it show a message
NO SIM CARD have NO SERVICE.
the sim is working perfectly on another phone.
how can i check the sim card reader..?
or any tip....
no body...????? heeeeeeeeeeeeelp....
Go to Settings > Wireless Controls > Mobile Networks > Network Operators.
Select the new network, and you'll be prompted for the code.
Also (for your silly simple checks) ensure the sim card is inserted in the correct orientation.. the key on the sim needs to match the diagram on top of the sim slot.
ezterry said:
Also (for your silly simple checks) ensure the sim card is inserted in the correct orientation.. the key on the sim needs to match the diagram on top of the sim slot.
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Unless something's broken, it won't even be able to go in backwards. The key cut needs to be in the right place in order for the BATTERY to be installed.
lbcoder said:
The key cut needs to be in the right place in order for the BATTERY to be installed.
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Why so it is (my fault for never actually trying.. had someone say they tried backwards [and it failed] but they also previously opened the phone without the right tools and the plastic of the battery case was a bit of a mess..)
hi to all, thank you by your help.. but i still with the same problem.
1. the sim is install in the correct positions
2. if i try to search my network it show,,,
your sim card does not allow a connection to this network, and never ask for the sin network unlock PIN
3. i installed 3 or 4 diferents sim and the same history, doesnt asl for sim network unlick pin
i found this link.
http://www.jukie.net/bart/blog/sim-unlocking-g1
i try all but noting...
hello, me too i try to use my but i can't when i put the sim card it always shows "no sim card in phone" now what can i do to display the enter code screen?
food for thought
Just curious, have you gone to Settings-Applications-Manage Applications and searched for Google Apps and cleared the cache.
I had a similar issue with the unlock screen and my calls never ring through, they went right to voice mail. I cleared the cache and that resolved the issue. Not sure if it will take care of the network issue, but give it a try.
any update about..???? no body know the problem..?