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Why do people keep upgrading ROMS?

I know I am going to cause some trouble by asking this but why?
On taking my new Orange SPV M600 out of the box, I have to agree a bit sluggish, but this was mainly due to Windows.
After a little tweaking with the registry and some third party software it is now flying.
I originally thought that putting third party software over the top of the system would slow it even more, but know, the opposite was true. Using the standard windows task bar and start menu was dreadful. I tried a number of third party softwares such as True Toolbar, Handyswitcher etc, finally settling on Wisbar deluxe.
Everything now opens as soon as it is selected no nasty lag like windows. With some skinning and removal of Customised Today the phone looks great and is performing great. That is apart from my wired hands free. I can now answer and close calls with the button, but it does not activate voice dial when pressed, so I can't dial out hands free. All prevoius phones, Nokia and SE did this no problem, so why not this phone?
Anyway, back to the point of ROMS, why keep flashing?

I just got me one of those SPV M600 things and its not that slow, but I havent added anything else to it yet. Would you care to elaborate on "registry tweaks"? Im new to XDA/phones and havent started messing about yet.

I can not remember all of the tweaks I used, but there is a big section somewhere in here listing them. I have them somewhere on the computer but my filing is a mess and I can't remember what I called the text file or where I put it.
Basically the tweaks are just simple things like increasing cache size for fonts, programs etc. Moving file storage off main memory to SD card, disabling and enabling etc. It is claimed by doing this that the system will speed up a little. I am not sure if any of these actually did anything or if it is just down to Wisbar. All I can say is that when I click on a program it fires up straight away, before it could take a second or two.

Spenner said:
I just got me one of those SPV M600 things and its not that slow, but I havent added anything else to it yet. Would you care to elaborate on "registry tweaks"? Im new to XDA/phones and havent started messing about yet.
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check out this tread and application
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725&highlight=easy+tweaking
good luck
R

Actually, the rule about flashing is: If it's not broken don't fix it.
People upgrade because they want to get rid of bugs or add features like AKU 2.0 that includes push mail and some other stuff.
Also some brands are better that others in some ways, and worse in other ways. There are several ROMs for the Prophet: Dopod, i-mate, Qtek, Orange. Finally some people cook their own ROMs throwing out useless stuff and adding apps they 'must have'.
All in all if you are pleased with your phone there is no need to change the ROM. When I got my Jamin it had the i-mate 1.xx ROM so I upgraded to 2.13 to get the AKU 2.0 goodies.

I always belive the latest is the greatest, even if its not. I still run the latest. While the release notes say "Added this, fixed that" they also contain a lot of fixes and changes not documented.

Hi all.
Thats actually a very good question. From my experience you dont really need to change anything. Maybe as you said some registry tweaking or some basic settings. However as someone already said, the golden rule should be if it is not broken dont try to fix it.
On the other hand you might want to change things with no reason, just because you can.. and I have to admit that it is hard not to do. Then you have to make sure that you know what you are doing cause otherwise you might end up spending your day in forums try to fix whatever you &^%$ up..
Take care.

Thanks for the replies.
I have to admit, when I first got the phone I started tweaking, then I found this forum and others. Once I discovered unlocking and flashing ROMS, I was very close to doing it. Then I remembered what I used to be like on my PC. With old systems like Win ME, I used to spend about 70% of my time tweaking and fixing, and only 30% actually using the damn thing. Not what I want out of a phone.
Just by messing around with skins, I have already managed to lose my phone dialer all together, I was left with a blank screen, so I had a phone that could not phone. I have it nicely skinned and running now, but I was never able to get the Orange dialer back.
Guess the only time I will flash my ROM is when there is a genuine update and it is covered by warranty, that way if the ROM is bad, Orange can give me another phone.
Thanks

I look at it same way as i look at windows.
My windows isn't broke but I always use Windows Update.
Why do YOU update windows, if you do at all. I guess im not sure if this is advisable, but that's just the way i do it.
Regarding upgrading ROM, MOST of the time, it makes the device faster and adds more features ( i never install extended ROM ) so I always upgrade when there is a new one.
I've downgraded ONCE. And only the RADIO because 1.11 didn't agree with my device.
There are ways to Backup the device, change to a different BRAND/VERISON of ROM then restore the backup. This makes changing ROM very easy.
Anyway, I have nothing better to do with my time so i upgrade whenever a new ROM comes out.

Sorry to but in again but I simply must disagree with the Windows update analogy.
I have my PC set to auto update as well, but Windows XP runs updates in the background and doesn't delete you data in the process.
ROM upgrade means HARD RESET, and unless you have a good backup a long restore process.
Also there is the danger of communication / power interrupt during the flashing and a bricked device as a result.
Finlay, like with your radio ROM, some OS updates have new bugs as well as fixes for the old.
But I do wish it was as simple as updating windows - then I would say, update away, couldn't hurt.

My analogy was based only on the reason for updating, not the process itself that you are stating.
What I mean is if your windows works, why update?.... This thinking... Not the "ritual"...
Sorry i did not explain that clearly. The guy just asked why update if you are content with what you have.... It has nothing to do with "I would update only if the process were simpler" like what you stated.
Sorry for the misunderstanding

I upgrade because I can cook my own ROM with better application suite

Jorgee said:
What I mean is if your windows works, why update?.... This thinking... Not the "ritual"...
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Because it's full of holes and most of the updates are plugging them.

I think the main point is you dont have to upgrade, you can if you want, its a matter of choice.
I like to always update, some like to keep the same and have never hard reset in their life. Im on my 9th this week :S but it is a new device and im still figuring it all out.

TheBrit said:
Jorgee said:
What I mean is if your windows works, why update?.... This thinking... Not the "ritual"...
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Because it's full of holes and most of the updates are plugging them.
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Hmm, then i guess your advice to NewSPV is to upgrade.
Me too, as i said in earlier post, i will always upgrade to the newest ROM, then just downgrade if i don't like the changes. Unfortunately it isn't as easy to downgrade from Windows SP2 hehehe

Jorgee said:
TheBrit said:
Jorgee said:
What I mean is if your windows works, why update?.... This thinking... Not the "ritual"...
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Because it's full of holes and most of the updates are plugging them.
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Hmm, then i guess your advice to NewSPV is to upgrade.
Me too, as i said in earlier post, i will always upgrade to the newest ROM, then just downgrade if i don't like the changes. Unfortunately it isn't as easy to downgrade from Windows SP2 hehehe
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I was talking about Windows, not WM5.
My phone came shipped with an AKU2 rom and it's fine - after a little tweaking. I'm not going to risk bricking my pride and joy with a rom upgrade - as so many people have done already on this forum. :wink:

Can anyone name some good places to read about how to flash your device with a new ROM?
Also, I was wondering about what the "extended ROM" is. Is it basically partitioning part of your storage card for use as "internal memory" ?
Thanks for the info guys!

brounstoun said:
Can anyone name some good places to read about how to flash your device with a new ROM?
Also, I was wondering about what the "extended ROM" is. Is it basically partitioning part of your storage card for use as "internal memory" ?
Thanks for the info guys!
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Look at the top left of this very page and you will see a link to the wiki section of this site. How to flash is in there.
The extended rom is where the operator adds thier own customisations (over and above what M$ provide) to the device, for example Orange and O2 add their own options in there and they install when the device is powered up for the first time or when it's hard reset. If you get access to the extended rom (again look in the wiki) you can manipulate what gets installed and if you're really clever, add some of your own stuff.
Don't ask me how to do these things as I have not tried myself, the risk of bricking the device is too great for my liking.

cool, thanks paul

TheBrit said:
Don't ask me how to do these things as I have not tried myself, the risk of bricking the device is too great for my liking.
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Actually, it is virtually impossible to brick your device by manipulating the contents of the extended ROM. It is only accessed once, during first boot, and event that can be avoided by quickly soft resetting the device.
Basically it acts exactly like "file store" used to on WM 2003 devices, the only difference being it is hidden so ordinary users won't get rid of the operator junk.
In my case it was very nice of i-mate to provide various goodies there like voice dial (should be in ROM) anti virus (not only useless but damaging crap) Skype (could have just downloaded from their site, but nice thought) and backgammon (toys are always welcome).
But now ofter the initial installation it makes all the sense in the world to save these cabs (9MB~) to my PC and have extra 10 MB storage on the device.

WIMP - Where Is My Phone

Hey Guys,
I posted this in the Kaiser thread. It works brilliantly on my Ameo too.
Here's the first post from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332324
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I’ve found a mint piece of software that no Kaiser owner should be without.
It comes with a trial period and u should check it out.
I was looking for some software that would help secure my phone and came across this. http://www.wimp-software.co.uk)
It’s supposedly designed to help you find your phone (yeh right, I aint gonna lose my £500 phone) but me and my mate have had a **** load of fun with it.
It’s pretty cool.
If you read the instructions, you can basically text the phone, but the other person doesn’t get the text message. The software grabs this coded text message and sends you back the gps position of the phone. It also gives you a link to google maps which is great if you’ve got Opera installed on your phone. (Don’t try PIE, it doesn’t work)
I gotta say, I’ve seen a lot of cool software around, but this one is SO cool. I only wish my girlfriend had a Kaiser. I could have so much fun with this.
The only thing I would add to the software though, is to know I was being WIMPED. Maybe a little SMS noise, or the icon changed or something, but I do suppose that it was written for phone theft. I haven’t tried it yet, but it also claims that if you change the SIM card in the phone it’ll SMS you with the number of the new SIM card.

this is a great find. thanks

Yes, this is a fantastic idea. However, the implication on our privacy is something to think about very seriously. Yes, it does protect our phone from theft and lost.
Can it be uninstalled or removed by a hard reset.?

Yes, it can be uninstalled, and yes it will be removed by a hard reset.
HOWEVER, pop it into your External Rom and the above two things become insignificant.

That's very true.

or cook it into a rom, doesnt help if they re-flash though...

Mobile Justice
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mjustice
Does the same, is freeware, works without problems on My athena WITHOUT bottom bar at 128 DPI (WINP shows no ICON)
The easiest way could be to cook it into a ROM and put the config file into an unlocked EXTERNAL ROM.
This is needed because a config file is requested, so, even if you cook mobile justice into the rom, you can't cook the config file (it needs your password, your SIM number and your phone number to report at..)
Then you can config your phone and even in case of an hard reset, without the thieft knowledge of the SW, it will restart and it reads the config file into the external ROM

Midget_1990 said:
or cook it into a rom, doesnt help if they re-flash though...
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We would have to assume that 99.9% of the guy having our phones does not know anything about flashing. This is a reasonable assumption I think.
Having even 80% chances of getting back a lost phone is already not bad.

eaglesteve said:
We would have to assume that 99.9% of the guy having our phones does not know anything about flashing. This is a reasonable assumption I think.
Having even 80% chances of getting back a lost phone is already not bad.
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Agree with this. Even having the config file on the MicroDrive might work, if this could be built into the ROM to look there by default. Don't know if that's possible. Yes, you could erase the Microdrive but this would take more research than the usual thief might be willing to make...
WIMP says it will send a Google Maps link, will Mobile Justice do that? Seems like MJ is actually more configurable.

wgary said:
Agree with this. Even having the config file on the MicroDrive might work, if this could be built into the ROM to look there by default. Don't know if that's possible. Yes, you could erase the Microdrive but this would take more research than the usual thief might be willing to make...
WIMP says it will send a Google Maps link, will Mobile Justice do that? Seems like MJ is actually more configurable.
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MJ send GPS info in some formats, and have NO ICON on home screen. And a guy having in his hands a phone like this the first thing he search on google is HOW TO HARD RESET THE DEVICE Without a config file in ROM (on on microdrive I agree, but when you hard reset the ATHENA he asks "do you want to format the microdrive?" Having a stolen one the answer will be always YES!
Moreover is FREE, so I think no problems, asking to author, to put it into the ROM and to modify the registry key for config file to have it on external rom. The problem is.. could we have a PK3.0 with External Rom unocked as default?

sergiopi said:
MJ send GPS info in some formats, and have NO ICON on home screen. And a guy having in his hands a phone like the first thing he search on google is HOW TO HARD RESET THE DEVICE Without a config file in ROM (on on microdrive I agree, but when you hard reset the ATHENA he asks "do you want to format the microdrive?" Having a stolen one the answer will be always YES!
Moreover is FREE, so I think no problems, asking to author, to put it into the ROM and to modify the registry key for config file to have it on external rom. The problem is.. could we have a PK3.0 with External Rom unocked as default?
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I don't recall being asked about reformatting the MicroDrive on hard reset... But having it in external rom would certainly be a viable approach. This would be a nice feature for PK3.0

Has anyone got MobileJustice working??
I can send a message but the GPS feature doesn't work. Anyone??

I tried mobileJustice and it didnt work for me either

wgary said:
I can send a message but the GPS feature doesn't work. Anyone??
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So... I also tried WIMP and no love there, either. Even "heated up" GPS first. Thoughts, anyone?

wgary said:
So... I also tried WIMP and no love there, either. Even "heated up" GPS first. Thoughts, anyone?
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WIMP worked for me second time out - had to increase the GPS timeout from 3 mins to 10 (I haven't yet tried any intermediate settings).

apd said:
WIMP worked for me second time out - had to increase the GPS timeout from 3 mins to 10 (I haven't yet tried any intermediate settings).
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What settings did you use? I have x7500... Thanks!

wgary said:
What settings did you use? I have x7500... Thanks!
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COM4, 38400, GPS TImeout 10, Max Satellites 6

The only way to works well it's integrating it in the rom, cause if its stolen the first thing that can do is change the rom

New Version on their website.
V1.2 includes various stealth options.

Wouldn't it be great if we could tell the program to draw the thiefs attention (eg an alarm) and when the person reacts to this alarm have it make a photograph with the front camera, which could be send through mms or e-mail... Then you would know who to look for when you arrive at the GPS coordinates with your baseball bat...

Security Issue with Microdrive and Athena

Just wondering, if you have tonnes of important data in your storage card, but You already apply a PIN on your athena. When your athena got stolen and people hard resetted your device. Apparently your microdrive data doesn't get wiped out as well. Any solution to this?

You can use my software Ultimate Theft Alert v35!
I'm planning on having a remote wipe feature for Micro-drive where you send an sms with secret code and the entire micro-drive gets erased!
Regards,
Carty..

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Just wondering, if you have tonnes of important data in your storage card, but You already apply a PIN on your athena. When your athena got stolen and people hard resetted your device. Apparently your microdrive data doesn't get wiped out as well. Any solution to this?
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I don't think this is correct.When I was bitten by the password bug, EVERYTHING was wiped from my system - microdrive and sd card included.
I was super-impressed by the security, less so that I had to completely restore my Athena

Carty said:
You can use my software Ultimate Theft Alert v35!
I'm planning on having a remote wipe feature for Micro-drive where you send an sms with secret code and the entire micro-drive gets erased!
Regards,
Carty..
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So you're saying if I hard reset or flash a new ROM on the device the program will still be on there?

tootallk2000 said:
So you're saying if I hard reset or flash a new ROM on the device the program will still be on there?
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Not right out of the box. But you can make it available that way if you could cook your own ROM with the Kitchen here..
Do you think the thief's are well educated on hard-reseting these devices? I bet you came across hard-reset function in this forum or you were unaware of it atleast for quite some time?
Regards,
Carty..

Carty said:
Not right out of the box. But you can make it available that way if you could cook your own ROM with the Kitchen here..
Do you think the thief's are well educated on hard-reseting these devices? I bet you came across hard-reset function in this forum or you were unaware of it atleast for quite some time?
Regards,
Carty..
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What about the "Clear Storage" option in settings?

Carty said:
Not right out of the box. But you can make it available that way if you could cook your own ROM with the Kitchen here..
Do you think the thief's are well educated on hard-reseting these devices? I bet you came across hard-reset function in this forum or you were unaware of it atleast for quite some time?
Regards,
Carty..
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since we are already a bit off topic, carty would u mind contacting me about maybe integrating the full version of ur app into the next athena project rom like we have done with teksoftco fingertouch. thanx.

Great would be good news I guess

HTC Hermes system diagnostics

Hello i just saw in one of the threads something about the white screen isue and i disassamble my tytn to repair this isue but i found this thing to test it says that it boots up once with bootloader but here it says that comes on the Micro SD card (provided by HTC) is there a way to download this software from someware?
http://inuchanbt.blog54.fc2.com/blog-entry-100.html

That my friend is the philosopher stone of the Hermes community... You hear about it but you just can't seem to find it on ANY site.... Apparently its supplied to the techs on an sd card but NO-ONE seems to have, or been able to, upload the software.
Cheers...

Hey guys!
Try here: http://8g.cn/Search.aspx?Keywords=htc
I found the UN-Findable Trindiag.nbh here. I was amazed after searching for 2 years, it was here.
Anyways, be sure to browse all 125 items. You can change pages at the bottom. Not sure what it says, since it's Chineese, but I was able to fumble my way through it.
Also, for more info, try changing the tab at the top of the search window and run the search again. I've found more stuff that way.

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Hello i just saw in one of the threads something about the white screen isue and i disassamble my tytn to repair this isue but i found this thing to test it says that it boots up once with bootloader but here it says that comes on the Micro SD card (provided by HTC) is there a way to download this software from someware?
http://inuchanbt.blog54.fc2.com/blog-entry-100.html
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white screen fix watch the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ1kRg7wLhM&feature=related

ultramag69 said:
That my friend is the philosopher stone of the Hermes community... You hear about it but you just can't seem to find it on ANY site.... Apparently its supplied to the techs on an sd card but NO-ONE seems to have, or been able to, upload the software.
Cheers...
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In time things lose their mystery and turn up!:
hermdiag.nbh
Note this file is the diagnostic nbh, NOT to be confused with nbh files of the same name created by some ROM Chefs. They use this same name because the device automatically looks to load files by this specific name in preference to loading pre-installed software on the phone.
Mike

mikechannon said:
In time things lose their mystery and turn up!:
hermdiag.nbh
Note this file is the diagnostic nbh, NOT to be confused with nbh files of the same name created by some ROM Chefs. They use this same name because the device automatically looks to load files by this specific name in preference to loading pre-installed software on the phone.
Mike
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Thanks Mike. I thought they would use the link above to get it, but I guess it sometimes needs to be handed to them on a Silver Platter...
Just Kidding guys!

SuperSport said:
Just Kidding guys!
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Are you sure
So folks how about a nice Level 2.5 Schematic for the technically minded?
(Took a while longer - source protecting measures required)
Mikehttp://www.mikechannon.net/PDF Manuals/Hermes level 2.5 Schematic .pdf

mikechannon said:
Are you sure
So folks how about a nice Level 2.5 Schematic for the technically minded?
(Took a while longer - source protecting measures required)
Mikehttp://www.mikechannon.net/PDF Manuals/Hermes level 2.5 Schematic .pdf
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I have a Hermes in pieces, due to a bad USB Port, so I don't need this, but it's still VERY cool anyways!
Yep, I'm sure. I'm so easy going that everyone thinks I'm a stoner... And I'm not, really! Don't actually like the stuff. Besides, being sick, the DR's are always handing me new pills, so no need to smoke.

hello. thanks for the file. but i am afraid i didnt understand how i will make that file work.

coderbie said:
hello. thanks for the file. but i am afraid i didnt understand how i will make that file work.
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Copy it to the Root of your SD Card and enter BootLoader. But, be aware that it may cause a Hard Reset and possibly clear all your call counters. At least on the Trinity this is how it acts.
Also, be aware that it may cause other damage not mentioned, so use at your own risk... I've used the Trinity & Kaiser versions with no damage, but just know this in case.

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Copy it to the Root of your SD Card and enter BootLoader. But, be aware that it may cause a Hard Reset and possibly clear all your call counters. At least on the Trinity this is how it acts.
Also, be aware that it may cause other damage not mentioned, so use at your own risk... I've used the Trinity & Kaiser versions with no damage, but just know this in case.
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thank you.

SuperSport said:
Copy it to the Root of your SD Card and enter BootLoader. But, be aware that it may cause a Hard Reset and possibly clear all your call counters. At least on the Trinity this is how it acts.
Also, be aware that it may cause other damage not mentioned, so use at your own risk... I've used the Trinity & Kaiser versions with no damage, but just know this in case.
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Hi there, I've been trying to locate the Diagnostic file for the Excalibur/T-Mobile Dash, do you have or know where I can find it?
Thanks a million

[email protected] said:
Hi there, I've been trying to locate the Diagnostic file for the Excalibur/T-Mobile Dash, do you have or know where I can find it?
Thanks a million
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I have no way of testing, but it appears this might be what you are looking for?

[email protected] said:
Hi there, I've been trying to locate the Diagnostic file for the Excalibur/T-Mobile Dash, do you have or know where I can find it?
Thanks a million
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Can't find that at the moment. This may be of use to some folks:
http://www.mikechannon.net/PDF Manuals/Excalibur Series MB Repair Guide AX03.pdf
Mike
PS I know were in the wrong forum for this!

mikechannon said:
In time things lose their mystery and turn up!:
hermdiag.nbh
Note this file is the diagnostic nbh, NOT to be confused with nbh files of the same name created by some ROM Chefs. They use this same name because the device automatically looks to load files by this specific name in preference to loading pre-installed software on the phone.
Mike
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Does anyone make it runs on an HTC Tytn? I can't start it in my machine with any bootloader I've tried. I always get the same error: No Image File!

A7275 / Vision
Any chance someone has the diagnostic files for the Vision (specifically, the A7275) ??

Noob Question - Problem

Installed FroyoStone_Sense to my HD2. I've found that every time I switch back to WM by doing a soft reset a particular folder is damaged, forcing me to restore it. Should I be installing the Android folder to a clean, empty SD card? I was under the impression that I could just add the folder to my existing WM SD card.
Thanks in advance.
-Bob-

I don't know about other people but I install the droid folder onto a freshly formatted sd card to make sure. Many of the files on the droid folder will only be read by the WM OS system unless you hook into a PC.

rebecker said:
Installed FroyoStone_Sense to my HD2. I've found that every time I switch back to WM by doing a soft reset a particular folder is damaged, forcing me to restore it. Should I be installing the Android folder to a clean, empty SD card? I was under the impression that I could just add the folder to my existing WM SD card.
Thanks in advance.
-Bob-
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That's what I've been doing, and I've used probably about 10 builds and have never had the problem you describe.
What folder is it?

I do have one question though, why do you 'soft reset'? Is the build your using always freezing up or is it to access some of the non-droid applications associated with WM?

norodaigh said:
I do have one question though, why do you 'soft reset'? Is the build your using always freezing up or is it to access some of the non-droid applications associated with WM?
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Soft reset to go back to WM. Haven't gone beyond the most basic experimentation with the Android build. Need to get some work done occasionally.
-Bob-

johncmolyneux said:
That's what I've been doing, and I've used probably about 10 builds and have never had the problem you describe.
What folder is it?
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It's the MarsWare folder in the Programs folder. I still use that app outside of HTC Sense. The folder has been corrupted each time I've rest to WM.
-Bob-

Hmmm, is the file that keeps getting corrupt a file that you need access to with the Android system or the WM system?
If you have two memory card then I would keep the WM files separate or try a new build, I have never had the problem myself, if you want my build then let me know.

Sounds strange. I assume Android doesn't use that folder for anything, so it shouldn't affect it.
How much space do you have left on your card?

norodaigh said:
Many of the files on the droid folder will only be read by the WM OS system unless you hook into a PC.
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Do you hook your "Droid" up to the PC? I've been switching back to WM before connecting to my PC. Didn't want to mess up ActiveSync capabilities with WM.
-Bob-

rebecker said:
Do you hook your "Droid" up to the PC? I've been switching back to WM before connecting to my PC. Didn't want to mess up ActiveSync capabilities with WM.
-Bob-
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If you hook up droid to the pc then it won't mess up your activesync but thats not what i'm saying.
The folder which keeps getting corrupted, is it stored on the SD Card in its own folder or is it being stored under the ANDROID folder in the SD Card?
The only other way around this apart from carrying two sd cards around with you is to get the DUAL-BOOT loader onto your phone so even if you reset you should have full access to all file and folders.

johncmolyneux said:
Sounds strange. I assume Android doesn't use that folder for anything, so it shouldn't affect it.
How much space do you have left on your card?
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3.5gb of 16gb.

rebecker said:
3.5gb of 16gb.
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I don't know then mate. When you say you can restore the folder, does that mean you have a backup of it somewhere? If so, just rename the knackered one and restore the original again and maybe the knackered one will bear the brunt of the problem.
Not a fix, I know, but maybe a workround for now.

norodaigh said:
Hmmm, is the file that keeps getting corrupt a file that you need access to with the Android system or the WM system?
If you have two memory card then I would keep the WM files separate or try a new build, I have never had the problem myself, if you want my build then let me know.
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The files are only needed in WM. It's a weather program. Looks like I should buy another 16gb card for the Android.
I'm just starting with the Android thing, so ALL suggestions are appreciated. Where can I find your version?
Another question (since I have your attention ); the music player seems to interface perfectly with my WM installed music folder. I use a WM software package, Pocket Tunes, to sync playlists. Those playlists show up in the Android setup, which was amazing to me because they don't in the WM version. That left me with the impression that the Android system reads the WM format fine. Your thoughts?
Thanks again.
-Bob-

johncmolyneux said:
I don't know then mate. When you say you can restore the folder, does that mean you have a backup of it somewhere? If so, just rename the knackered one and restore the original again and maybe the knackered one will bear the brunt of the problem.
Not a fix, I know, but maybe a workround for now.
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Hey, thanks for the suggestion. I was doing a restore, but then deleting the damaged folder. I'll try leaving it on.
I think I should just buy another 16gb card and use it exclusively for the Android stuff.
-Bob-

rebecker said:
the music player seems to interface perfectly with my WM installed music folder. I use a WM software package, Pocket Tunes, to sync playlists. Those playlists show up in the Android setup, which was amazing to me because they don't in the WM version. That left me with the impression that the Android system reads the WM format fine. Your thoughts?
Thanks again.
-Bob-
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I believe that the pls format is universal, but I don't know for sure that Android will read it correctly. I guess the obvious answer would be to try it and find out.
I've never been a big playlist fan, so I can't talk from experience.

rebecker said:
The files are only needed in WM. It's a weather program. Looks like I should buy another 16gb card for the Android.
I'm just starting with the Android thing, so ALL suggestions are appreciated. Where can I find your version?
Another question (since I have your attention ); the music player seems to interface perfectly with my WM installed music folder. I use a WM software package, Pocket Tunes, to sync playlists. Those playlists show up in the Android setup, which was amazing to me because they don't in the WM version. That left me with the impression that the Android system reads the WM format fine. Your thoughts?
Thanks again.
-Bob-
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The Android build seems to dominate over WM for a couple of things, the music thingy is new to me but for apps like facebook etc android seems to dominate and there is not much you can do about it. I think the dual-boot loader is your best option as each OS will have a separate part of the SD card to work from, this is a theory but im not too sure otherwise, anyone else got any ideas about a bootloader?

hey,
I had the same issue with weather panel running off "second home screen" app, using DDT theme, whenever I ran android then went back to weather panel the theme wouldn't display correctly, it appears to corrupt the themes folder.
however installing WP on the device memory sorted it, tho I don't use windows anymore so can't say if it was a permanent solution.
last thing if you think you will switch to android and want something with similar features (+extras), take a look at palmary weather it's a paid app (less than a shot of brandy)
can only buy from there sight tho.
http://www.palmarysoft.com/products.php?platform_id=3&category_id=2&product_id=2

kam333 said:
hey,
I had the same issue with weather panel running off "second home screen" app, using DDT theme, whenever I ran android then went back to weather panel the theme wouldn't display correctly, it appears to corrupt the themes folder.
however installing WP on the device memory sorted it, tho I don't use windows anymore so can't say if it was a permanent solution.
last thing if you think you will switch to android and want something with similar features (+extras), take a look at palmary weather it's a paid app (less than a shot of brandy)
can only buy from there sight tho.
http://www.palmarysoft.com/products.php?platform_id=3&category_id=2&product_id=2
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Maybe you could even get some apps which will do what you need on the android system so you wont have to change back to WM again...that could be a possibility.

kam333 said:
hey,
I had the same issue with weather panel running off "second home screen" app, using DDT theme, whenever I ran android then went back to weather panel the theme wouldn't display correctly, it appears to corrupt the themes folder.
however installing WP on the device memory sorted it, tho I don't use windows anymore so can't say if it was a permanent solution.
last thing if you think you will switch to android and want something with similar features (+extras), take a look at palmary weather it's a paid app (less than a shot of brandy)
can only buy from there sight tho.
http://www.palmarysoft.com/products.php?platform_id=3&category_id=2&product_id=2
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WeatherPanel is the issue for me too. I'll reinstall it to the main memory and see what happens. Thanks for your reply.
-Bob-

norodaigh said:
Maybe you could even get some apps which will do what you need on the android system so you wont have to change back to WM again...that could be a possibility.
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I suspect a couple weeks with Android and I'll make it permanent. Right now I'm traveling, so I'm a bit less willing to drop my crutch (WM) right now.
I am also VERY impressed with all the help on this forum. It'll make the transition much less painful.
Thanks.
-Bob-