i-mate Jam strange problem - JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General

Hi,
this is the first time im working with with pdas so im totally new in this area. I bought one i-mate Jam and im using ok with one card provider, yesterday i change for other provider and i dont understand why my pda cant get network with this new provider.. i try to make a manual search and no information. the pda is brand new and i also contact the provider to see if is not barred and all is 100% ok... can someone knows if this can be fixed or have any ideia about this?
regards

For sure your unit is SIM locked. There are threads on how to unlock. Please do a search.

the pda is not locked becouse acept card without any problems... the only problem is dont get network of one provider.

What are OS ROM and Radio ROM versions in your unit? If it's an old one try to upgrade to the latest. There are a number of ROM's available in the FTP
Try your new SIM in other phones and see if it works ok. Also try borrowing from friends SIM of the same provider as your new SIM as well as SIMs from other providers.

The magician is a tri-band device build in two flavors:
- 850, 1800, 1900mHz
- 900, 1800, 1900mHz
Could it be the one provider which doesn't work is operating on a non-supported band?
M

hi,
i flash this pda few hours ago and i still have the same problem.. i was looking in other sites and i found something about this problem.
Exact this models have to versions:
PM10A (900-1800-1900 mhz) and PM10C (850-1800-1900mhz) and the one that i have is PM10C. I have to find one way to convert it to PM10A so then i will be able to fix this problem.

When you find the way to change a PM10C to a PM10A or vice-versa you're the man! It's hardware specific & not build in the rom :-(
M

i know someone that can make this change but dont share with no one... i cant do a lot becouse i have only PM10c in hands and i dont have any PM10A to compare the boards.

I just did a search with the keyword "850" and there are 2 pages of threads about this. All threads confirm what what OLTP mentioned - the radio frequencies are set via hardware components and no software or hack can change it. In fact, "Reo" mentioned that he modified the hardware of his unit to make it into a 900/1800/1900 MHz unit.
The 850 and 1900 MHz frequencies are used in the USA, while the 900 and 1800 MHz frequencies are used in Asia, Australia and Europe. I'm pretty sure that your new SIM supports only the 900 MHz frequency. Ask your current provider or check their website to find out what frequency they use. If your provider supports only the 900 MHz, then your last resort is to change provider again.

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Unlocking to enable orange

I have managed to unlock my sx 56 from at&t using xda's software. Great. Trouble is it only enabled me to use O2 in the UK, i then went to yorch.net and downloaded more software which enabled vodafone and O2. Better. But I was wondering how I could unlock it so all networks worked. Can anyone give me a hand?
beini said:
I have managed to unlock my sx 56 from at&t using xda's software. Great. Trouble is it only enabled me to use O2 in the UK, i then went to yorch.net and downloaded more software which enabled vodafone and O2. Better. But I was wondering how I could unlock it so all networks worked. Can anyone give me a hand?
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What you'll find is that there were two versions of the XDA (AKA...). One which was sold in Europe and ran on 900 and 1800Mhz frequencies, and one which ran on 900 and 1900Mhz frequencies, and was sold in the US (SX56, MDA, etc).
You may or may not know that Orange UK runs solely on 1800Mhz (as does T-Mobile), and as such you'll find your version to be incompatible with these networks... Sorry.
Although this device is from the states, I have found the option of using it oat 900 gsm or 900 / 1800 gsm or solely 1800 gsm. Does this mean that I may be able to use orange ?
beini said:
Although this device is from the states, I have found the option of using it oat 900 gsm or 900 / 1800 gsm or solely 1800 gsm. Does this mean that I may be able to use orange ?
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Although it might give you this option, I believe that the radio hardware inside it is designed only for 900/1900mhz. I guess you could try and put an Orange SIM in, in an area where you know there to be coverage, and see if it works. It is unlikely to work on Orange or T-Mobile.
Let us know either way, cheers
I have tried my sim in an area I know there to be coverage. It just comes up as no signal. Since going through the site I'm thinking of getting a serial cable and using manipulator although its a little ambiguous about whether this will work. One company reckons they can do it but if what you say is correct then they'll be waisting their time and my money.
It might be easier to swap providers!
Beini, if your phone is 900/1900 it will not work on Orange which is 1800.
O2 XDA RUNNING ON ORANGE NETWORK FINE NO CONNECT TO INTERNET
Thanks guys for showing me how unlock my 02 XDA so I can phone out. But I just cant get it to connect to the internet - can anyone help me?
I dont have the option for 1800 (Baud Rate)
i suppose the getting access to the internet is going to be impossible...??
How do I configure it to atleast work for WAP?

making sx56 or tmobile ppc phone work on 1800 mhz networks

Hi,
is it possible to make the sx56 or tmobile ppc phone (normally 900/1900) work on the european 1800 mhz networks as well :?:
Thank you
Yes, you need to change it in the bootloader. Just select the one that has got the band you need. Don't try to change it in the phone settings, or it won't work.
Are you sure ?
I tried what you mention and it does not connect to Telstra...
I am running a 6.25 radio and an 4.01.16 TMO rom with a 5.17 bootloader.
I tried both 900 stand alone and 900/1800 but it did not work.
Any other trick ?
Thanks,
Bob.
so, has anyone ever succeeded with activating the 1800 mhz?
It's all depending on the device type ... PW10A works only for 900/1800 ... and PW10B works only for 900/1900 .... don't try the impossible!!! ... or you may permanently damage the RSU part!!!
better to get XDA II ... it's tri-band
well, I'm planning to buy one on ebay. how can I make sure, which one it is. what should I ask the seller to look for?
Thanks
is 900/1900 not only in America ?
in that case you should ask the seller to look at his address
ok, my question is if it's possible to make the american version 900/1900 to work on 1800 mhz
most countries in EU have both 900 and 1800 support
here is a list not sure if its 100% uptodate though but i doubt people are limiting the support
http://www.celluloco.com/products/customer/pages.php?pageid=18
zsilak said:
ok, my question is if it's possible to make the american version 900/1900 to work on 1800 mhz
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Yes, only if the network supports 900 MHz
Zsilak, it will work on 900 but not on 1800.

2003 > SER > 2003 ?

I recently got a locked SX56 loaded with the 2003 ROM. To unlock it, I flashed it with the SER and it's working fine now. But I'd like to go back to the 2003 ROM yet keep my phone unlocked.
Before flashing I had backed up the 2003 ROM using XDATools, can i reflash that image into the sx56? Would this keep my phone unlocked? OR do I need to download the 2003 ROM from the Siemens website (really do not want to dl 18 mb!).
Any help is highly appreciated.
Thanks
Omi
You can reflash your backup version. The phone will be unlocked after upfrading...
HTH
Stefan
not able to change bands
Thanks LumpiStefan for your reply, I hope you could also help me with another problem that I'm facing with my XDA.
After changing to the SER, I wanted to switch bands also to 900/1800 but when the I start the band selector tool it gives an ERROR everytime and I'm not able to change bands. It works fine with the operators on 900Mhz but unfortunatley the operator who provides at 1800Mhz is much cheaper and also provides cheap GPRS services here. I'd really like to try the phone on 1800Mhz to see if it would be possible to use the phone with that operator.
Would changing to WM2003 help me change bands easier?
Thanks
Omitav
It all depends on the device type ... only PW10A devices work with 900/1800 (check the rear sticker) ... also the RSU must be suitable for 900/1800 or you may endup killing the device!
Hi Biso007
I've read in the forum that several ppl have changed bands in their PW10Bs and been able to receive 1800 operators (altough the signal strength was usually bad). I wanted to try that out.
How do I find out if my RSU supports 1800 Mhz?
The device info mentions that my Radio is A.33.02, can (and should this) be upgraded?
Thanks for your help.
Omi
I think you mean that some B devices worked on 1800 operator network and this can be true if the operator supports 900 as well (usually they are) and that's exactly my case.
I don't think B device with 900/1900 RSU like yours can work on pure 1800 MHz network ... or what is the need for the expensive tri-band XDA II then :wink:
Right, I got it
Yep, mine works fine with the first 3 operators in the state (since they're all on 900). It only won't work with the 4th operator (hutch) as they're on 1800.
Can't have everything I guess :-(
Hutch provides really affordable GPRS, gonna miss that. The other operator provides GPRS at exhorbitant rates, will have to wait until some operator gives at a cheaper rate.
BTW, where r u located in India ?
Omi

question about band frequencies:

are the frequencies hardware bound or software bound??
i read that on the typhoon, depending on which rom you flashed, it will change from 900mhz to 850mhz, or vise versa. is this a possibility with the magician platform?
perhaps i should have been clear.
with the magician, we have a tri-band phone. most of them are 900/1800/1900mhz and US models have 850/1800/1900mhz.
with the typhoon, i read that the device is quadband capable, but only three bands are enabled at once. so you can get a audiovox smt5600, which has 850/1800/1900mhz, and flash a c500 rom to it and you will end up with a 900/1800/1900mhz device.
i always thought that the frequencies are dependent on hardware settings, but i guess there is more to it than that.
so what i am asking is, is it possible to get a lets say, qtek s100 and flash it with i-mate jam US version rom, than will it enable the 850mhz band and disable 900mhz band?
i didn't think this was so much a stupid questions....
enlighten me!
I remeber reading a thread on Modaco or Hofo a month ago about this issue. Try to search there and see if you can find the thread. The general result was that you can flash a 850 Rom on a 900 Magician and the 850 will work, the 900 will be disabled. There were a few posts there of members who confirmed it worked. However, because the radio part was designed for the 900 band, the slight change in frequencies can over time damage your radio and make it useless. So be carefull to try this. read the mentioned fora for more info.
As far as I am aware the 850/900 difference is in the radio hardware and cannot be changed in software.

XDA, Special Eddition ROM 1.2 (3.17.03) - No Network

I have O2 XDA, with already installed Special Edition ROM 1.2. When SIM is inserted, this device is supposed to find network. BUT: no netwroks are found at all in this range! Switching between 900/1800/1900 does nothing. But still, after inserting the SIMcard, this device asks for the PIN-number, and is able to read the contents of the SIM - so SIM is not the problem... So what can I do to make it find network?
ps. Location - Russia, Service provider - BeeLine (federal number).
pps. I got this device used. First, this device was used in the 1900 mhz region - and was working perfect (1-st owner). Then it has been re-sold to the 2-nd owner, who used it as PocketPC only (as he was in 850 mhz region).
Please check model type of the rear sticker.
PW10A is for 900/1800 MHz networks and PW10B are for 900/1900 MHz networks. I´m guessing that´s your problem. If your provider just uses 1800 MHz you can´t use a PW10B-device....
Stefan

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