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I have an unlocked TyTN using my T-Mobile SIM and the total internet package. On the today screen, I always have the roaming symbol and it does not show T-Mobile as my system provider. Is there a way to show the T-Mobile network and to get rid of the roaming symbol?
I just recently bought a Rogers HTC Magic, rooted the phone, and unlocked it. Everything seems to work completely fine. At the moment however, I seem to be having an issue with a Bell Mobility sim card. Bell's HSPA sim works fine, and I seem to be able to use voice and data ok, but the problem lies in that their seems to be a roaming symbol ("R") on my reception bar. Im using the phone in my local calling area which is somewhat misleading to me.
Im using MyHero 2.0.5 ROM at the moment. Does anyone know why this is happening? Thanks in advance!
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I'm doing the same thing. I'm running cyanogens roms and I get the same thing. Best I can tell is that this is normal on the magic. Just be careful if you live near the border like I do.
I figured this was normal too. I guess i'll try other SIM cards to see what they say as well, thanks!
Ya I also have this phone running on Bell, wish I could get rid of the roaming. It also asks if I want to connect once in a while too.
Shouldn't the romaing be dictated by the sim? I have a bell sim, on the bell network, why do I get the roaming icon? is there a way to change the phone so it doesn't think it's a rogers and not roaming or something?
Are you sure you have the Bell APN Settings and not the Rogers Settings in the phone?
Settings -> Wireless Control -> Mobile Network Settings -> Access Point Names
If it says Rogers you're Roaming on the Rogers Network.
I put in the bell APN. I don't think we can even roam on rogers network, wouldn't work. Either way, it's the Bell APN.
I don't have a clue as to the differences between Bell and Rogers sims... but I can tell you that my HTC Magic, on Rogers, with a Rogers sim (duh), running Amon_RA's most excellent RAv1.6.2H only shows roaming when actually roaming.
I was in the US yesterday and watched it flip from a Rogers tower to ATT. I was watching to make sure it was not using any data when roaming on a US network. The symbol, lockscreen info and the carrier listed in the status pulldown all were updated correctly.
It might have something to do with the ROM you are running. However I bet that given the phone came from Rogers, it has some carrier info buried somewhere that it is comparing to the carrier you are on (Bell) and triggering the roaming status.
If you disable data when roaming in the settings menu, what does it do? If it disables data, then the phone thinks it is roaming, which would support my carrier data mixup theory.
I will try a different rom on the phone. Unless someone knows for sure what I can do to fix this.
If you disable roaming there is no data, because once in a while it prompts to connect, if you say no, you get nothing. Sometimes my wife must accidentally hit no (its her phone, she probably says no cause shes not sure what it does). I just want to make it so she does not get the prompt ever (settings are all set).
I have a rogers HTC Magic (unlocked) I'm using a fido sim, it thinks its roaming as-well but I have only fido apn settings. It only roams with certain roms and radio's. I can use alot of roms eg. cyanogen,Hero HOFO 308,GYD 2.1.1 without roaming but when I update radio and flash cursorsense roms it thinks it is roaming. I have to enable data roaming in order to get a 3G signal. as a fido user I dial *#123# to see if I'm in my local zone zone. A fido tech rep told me that most unlocked phones indicate roaming because of the phones hardware programing. The hard programing of the phones checks the sim and sees that it is using a diff sim card and starts indicating roaming when in fact you are not. A rogers salesman also told me the same thing. He said as long as your carrier is displayed on your phone homescreen then you are good.
I have the AT&T Tilt, not running the AT&T ROM. I've tested a few different SIM cards on my phone and here's what I've found:
Rogers: Roaming works correctly. In Canada, no roaming indicator, in the USA, roaming is indicated correctly.
Telus & Bell (HSPA): Roaming indicator always on.
I've heard that this may be due to the SIM card listing more than one Mobile Network Code: 302361, 302653, 302657 (original Telus CDMA networks, not compatible with the phone or any kind of SIM-based network so it's uncertain why it would be on the SIM card), PLUS the HSPA network code 302880. It's possible that the phone is not reading that far into the list on the SIM and therefore does not know that 302880 is a home network.
Tilt 2 Roaming Triangle and telus
I'm on Telus and have a Tilt2. The original ROM that came with the unit didn't show the roaming triangle. I have attached some screen captures of the ROM. I've attached a copy of the registry (Remove the .cab it was the only way I could get it to upload).
I'm now running Jackos rom and it does show the roaming triangle.
Hopefully somebody can find where the settings are located and hopefully it's contained in the registry.
Have the same problem on the Stocks ROGERS 1.5 Rom. Sales associate said you should not get roaming charges since you aren't actually roaming and if you do, just contact your phone provider.
rogers htc dream unlocked now on roaming?
i also have a htc dream from rogers unlocked not rooted and my bell sims card works like my phone calls and my text but i can't get my data to work and when i click on the apns theres not thing and i am not able to adjust anything in there, if anyone can help it would be great, so pretty much the bell sims card works but i cant use my data and it says im roaming
hol17 said:
Have the same problem on the Stocks ROGERS 1.5 Rom. Sales associate said you should not get roaming charges since you aren't actually roaming and if you do, just contact your phone provider.
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i also have a htc dream from rogers unlocked not rooted and my bell sims card works like my phone calls and my text but i can't get my data to work and when i click on the apns theres not thing and i am not able to adjust anything in there, if anyone can help it would be great, so pretty much the bell sims card works but i cant use my data and it says im roaming
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If you aren't outside of Canada and you get the roaming symbol; they can not charge you roaming fees.
Roger and Telus PLMN Compared
I'm not sure if this will help,
I have attached a picture of the PLMN from a Rogers sim and a Telus sim
Maybe someone knows how to adjust the information on these lists.
Dave778 said:
A fido tech rep told me that most unlocked phones indicate roaming because of the phones hardware programing. The hard programing of the phones checks the sim and sees that it is using a diff sim card and starts indicating roaming when in fact you are not. A rogers salesman also told me the same thing. He said as long as your carrier is displayed on your phone homescreen then you are good.
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The phone companies in Canada must be less uptight about unlocked/rooted phones
If you asked those questions to a t-mobile or at&t rep, they would straight up refuse to talk to you
American cell phone companies are still stuck in the "Ma Bell" mentality, where everything that touches their network must be under their control
anyone figure out a fix? I'm having these roaming issues as well on the bell network with unlocked at&t phone.
I have Same probleme Here, Bell on a AT&T Tilt 2 phone, Always get Roaming message.
any registry edit or mod available to make it work without these message ?
thks
BiOs2k said:
I have Same probleme Here, Bell on a AT&T Tilt 2 phone, Always get Roaming message.
any registry edit or mod available to make it work without these message ?
thks
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I searched around to a fairly moderate extent and I have found many people with the same problem, yet I can't find any resolution to this issue.
I'm not even sure where the issue lays. Is it with the hardware/firmware? SIM card? Windows Mobile? Is it the rilphone.dll? or maybe some registry entry. Maybe it's on the Bell network side?
Someone told me they put a Rogers SIM into their Fuze and it didn't show up as roaming, yet when they put a Bell SIM in, it's back to roaming. So what's the difference between Bell and Rogers?
Here's a question for anyone who has this problem, when you boot android does it still show as roaming?
Greetings. I humbly submit the following problem to the high-IQ section of the forums.
A number of users are experiencing an issue where their roaming indicator is "stuck" always on despite being connected to their home carrier. The majority of these users are Bell and Telus users on the HSPA network which was unveiled in November 2009.
I searched around to a fairly high extent for the last month and I have found many people with the same problem, yet I can't find any resolution to this issue.
I'm personally experiencing this issue with my unlocked AT&T Fuze. Others are having the same issue with their unlocked Tilt 2s and Fuzes. Even odder, expanding beyond just Windows mobile, some android users are having the same issue. But ignoring the android users for the time being....
What conditions need to be met for a windows mobile phone to think that it is roaming?
I'm not even sure where the issue lays. Is it with the hardware/firmware? SIM card? Windows Mobile? Is it the rilphone.dll? The radio? some obscure registry entry? Maybe it's on the Bell network side? Some unholy combination of above factors?
When I put a Rogers SIM card into my Fuze it didn't show up as roaming, yet when I put a Bell SIM in, it showed up as roaming.
Bell has one official windows mobile phone in their HSPA lineup, the Samsung Omnia 2. When you take the same Bell SIM card out of the always roaming Fuze, and put it into the Omnia 2, it correctly shows NO roaming icon.
So what could the Omnia 2 have that fixes this roaming issue?
Any ideas where to start with this one?
only for reference, here are some threads regarding this issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583227&page=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641299
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=621652
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=777437
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683785
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8132643#post8132643
Also, of course no one is actually being charged for their false roaming, the network sees the phone as it should and bills accordingly. Only the phone believes it is roaming. But many programs act differently when they detect that the phone is roaming, it's quite annoying.
Let me try to clarify the problem a bit.
These phones are being tested in Canada, well within the boundary of the Bell Mobility network.
Fuze
Situation 1 BAD
unlocked AT&T Fuze with Bell SIM card connected to the Bell Mobility network = Roaming.
Situation 2 GOOD
same unlocked AT&T Fuze with Rogers SIM card connected to the Rogers network = NOT Roaming.
Omnia II
Situation 3 GOOD
Bell branded Omnia II (Also Windows Mobile) with Bell SIM card connected to the Bell Mobility network = NOT Roaming.
Tilt 2
Situation 4 BAD
unlocked AT&T Tilt 2 with Bell SIM card connected to the Bell Mobility network = Roaming.
Situation 5 GOOD
same unlocked AT&T Tilt 2 with Rogers SIM card connected to the Rogers network = NOT Roaming.
Situations 1 and 4 can also be repeated with a Telus SIM card connected to the Telus network.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Network_Code#C
Could it be related to the fact that Bell and Telus share a Network?
My Bell MCCMNC is 302-610, while when I scan for networks it shows that I connect to the shared network 302-880. If it is the case, how does the OMNIA II overcome this?
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If you do a registry search and look for "MCCMNC" you should find the first one that is empty. I was looking this when my ATT card was inserted and it said 310410. There was an entry below that said the same.
When I put my telus card in the MCCMNC field is blank, but the one below still said the 310410.
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When I check the registry with my Bell SIM, the same entry is also blank:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\PhoneExtendFunction :MCCMNC
I tried to change value to 302880, but value was reset to 0 after soft-reset! of course roaming icon is still showing...
Any way to prevent the key from reverting?
Some people have claimed that flashing to certain stock ROMs will make the roaming indicator disappear - I tested this and found that while the Roaming icon does disappear, the phone still thinks it is roaming, so only the roaming icon is suppressed.
Any one have a suggestion of where to begin to tackle this one?
Well, I can't claim to know that much about roaming.
This is just a hunch, I have no evidence or tech reference to quote this from. I would personally suspect one of: (tower, phone radio, IMEI) / SIM combination.
I can think if "hunch" reasons for either of the above but I will not elaborate on them, as my technical knowledge of the exact workings are not enough to be useful. I know some Dutch users from a provider that was taken up by another provider are permanently roaming according to the device.
However, I am wondering about your statement "I tested this and found that while the Roaming icon does disappear, the phone still thinks it is roaming". How does this "still thinks it is roaming" show up? Do apps still think you are roaming?
If it is just the apps, it is probably possible to make this behaviour disappearing by patching the WM RIL layer. That's not an easy task, though.
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However, I am wondering about your statement "I tested this and found that while the Roaming icon does disappear, the phone still thinks it is roaming". How does this "still thinks it is roaming" show up? Do apps still think you are roaming?
If it is just the apps, it is probably possible to make this behaviour disappearing by patching the WM RIL layer. That's not an easy task, though.
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Thanks for the response.
What I mean by the statement is that in the notification bar at the top of the screen, there is no roaming icon, however, when I try to use an application, e.g. update the weather, the program will pop-up a warning that I am currently roaming.
Do you have any more information on patching the RIL?
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Thanks for the response.
What I mean by the statement is that in the notification bar at the top of the screen, there is no roaming icon, however, when I try to use an application, e.g. update the weather, the program will pop-up a warning that I am currently roaming.
Do you have any more information on patching the RIL?
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In that case it could probably be solved by patching the RIL. This is off the top of my head though.
As for how to do so, write a proxy RIL that calls the actual RIL, hijack the callbacks, remove the roaming flag. Something like that
I have two Fuzes and I was testing something on the second one when something strange happened. Let me try and explain.
I did a "full backup" using SPB Backup on Fuze A. Took out SIM card and put it into Fuze B and restored backup using "ROM upgrade" mode.
To my surprise, after I rebooted the Fuze B, there was no data roaming icon in the notification bar. We've seen this happen before on some stock ROMs but on those stock ROMs the phone would still think it is roaming if you try to update the weather or use other programs.
So I tried to update the weather, and it did not warn me that I was roaming! I then updated twitter and again no roaming warning! The phone was actually not in a roaming state!
This is when I noticed there were some severe problems with windows:
First, I cannot access the dialer. No way to make a phone call out.
Second, when I receive a call, the phone rings, but there is no way to answer as nothing shows up on screen and the hardware answer button does not work.
Third, in phone options, there is no network selected. Also, no operator string on the sense main screen. Usually displays "3G Bell". Further, the signal meter in the top bar usually shows the bars with an "H" when the data connection is active. Now it only shows a "!" instead. Despite this, the data connection works fine and the phone is not in a roaming state.
I'm not sure what SPB is wrecking when I do the restore, but it's interesting to have a working data connection and not be roaming.
samsung i900 roming solution
you all select your proper region to resolve the roming problem.....
go setting then system, then select regional settings, select your region
like english philippines...
finally restart your phone n u done........ thats all....
onenonlysubhash said:
you all select your proper region to resolve the roming problem.....
go setting then system, then select regional settings, select your region
like english philippines...
finally restart your phone n u done........ thats all....
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If only it were so simple
no one has found a solution for almost 2 years now. Most people have also moved onto new phones, so I don't think there will ever be a solution.
Hey do anyone know if the NS can roam? The reason I ask is because where I live there's basically no t_mobile service but there is ATT service. So I was wondering is there's a way to get the phone to roam on ATT network instead of T-Mobile?
I went into setting > Network and Wireless > Mobile Network Settings and clicked network operators and ATT displayed. I clicked it and got the popup that it was "Registering with ATT" but then got the message that this sim card do not allow connection to that provider"
Also why do the bars change green to white, do they indicate something when they change colors?
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Hey do anyone know if the NS can roam? The reason I ask is because where I live there's basically no t_mobile service but there is ATT service. So I was wondering is there's a way to get the phone to roam on ATT network instead of T-Mobile?
I went into setting > Network and Wireless > Mobile Network Settings and clicked network operators and ATT displayed. I clicked it and got the popup that it was "Registering with ATT" but then got the message that this sim card do not allow connection to that provider"
Also why do the bars change green to white, do they indicate something when they change colors?
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the change in color indicates connectivity to google services
Yes you can but you will get your standard roaming charges.
If T-Mobile has a roaming agreement where you are and you can not access T-Mobile's native network then the NS will roam, just like any other T-Mobile phone. It is not at all different from the rest of their phones.
slowz3r said:
the change in color indicates connectivity to google services
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So when they turn Green then they're connecting to Google services and when they're white, they're not?
Mactagonist said:
If T-Mobile has a roaming agreement where you are and you can not access T-Mobile's native network then the NS will roam, just like any other T-Mobile phone. It is not at all different from the rest of their phones.
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Well let me ask you this, I was at the mall yesterday and all of a sudden I had no bars and signal. I tried to make a call and it said something to the effect of "Mobile network unavailable...emergency calls only" Wouldn't the phone roam at this point or no?
I also went into settings > wireless and Networks > Mobile Networks a> Network Operators ...I did a search ATT popped up, Iclicked it and got the message that it was registering..then I got the message that it was unable to register with ATT. Can the phone be forced to roam and connect to another carrier?
Hey guys,
I'm using AT&T Service on my HTC HD2 w/ Android. Everything's great except for the lack of 3G (since the bands AT&T use are different from T-Mobile).
So I was thinking, what if there was a way to roam onto T-Mobile's 3G bands?
But the thing is, I go to the Network Operators list and I only see AT&T. But I know there is T-Mobile service here because my relatives have T-Mobile and do get service here.
Here's a screenshot of the Network Operators screen:
Any ideas?
Not a huge deal as I am near Wi-Fi most of the time, but it would be nice to be able to use 3G
Mysimplemobile.com
Get a sim card.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
I don't want to switch providers. I'm more than happy with AT&T's voice service.
Set your phone to MANUAL NETWORK SEARCH, then scan. T-Mobile should then show up in the list but you won't be able to access the TMO network with your AT&T card.
T-Mobile and AT&T do not have roaming agreements. You will need a T-Mobile SIM to access T-Mobile's network.