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I started yesterday working with my new i-mate Jasjar, and, already, I am lost in so many bugs and bad issues.
1- ActiveSync 4 does not support backup/restore of the device. I know this is a "known" issue, but it is a real bad one!
2- Some programs cannot be installed at all, like SPB PocketPlus. On another hand, all task switchers (and program closers) make problems, and end up by soft resetting the device.
3- A big problem: I cannot uninstall any of the programs I installed, whether on the main memory or the storage card, whether by using ActiveSync (from the desktop), or Remove Programs (in Settings) or any third party software, like SKTools!
4- Synchronizing through ActiveSync is not always straight forward. Sometimes the device is not recognized, or, when recognized, synchronize cannot start, or, when it does start, it never ends.
Did any of you experience any of these problems?
Any suggestions, or we have to wait for a ROM upgrade ?
Spb pocketplus may not be supported by wm05?.Perhaps the next release will work though as i'm getting either the wizard or universal so I hope it does!
personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
bugs are ok, it makes the patches more anticipated, and of course, with out this kind of feedback sofware houses wouldn't always reveal the issues before software is released.
Tekflow said:
I started yesterday working with my new i-mate Jasjar, and, already, I am lost in so many bugs and bad issues.
1- ActiveSync 4 does not support backup/restore of the device. I know this is a "known" issue, but it is a real bad one!
2- Some programs cannot be installed at all, like SPB PocketPlus. On another hand, all task switchers (and program closers) make problems, and end up by soft resetting the device.
3- A big problem: I cannot uninstall any of the programs I installed, whether on the main memory or the storage card, whether by using ActiveSync (from the desktop), or Remove Programs (in Settings) or any third party software, like SKTools!
4- Synchronizing through ActiveSync is not always straight forward. Sometimes the device is not recognized, or, when recognized, synchronize cannot start, or, when it does start, it never ends.
Did any of you experience any of these problems?
Any suggestions, or we have to wait for a ROM upgrade ?
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dude all of these are software (activesync and windows 5 related) none are related to jasjar...the jasjar is the most stable imate device EVER
yes there are issues between the new active sync and windows and firewall and the antivirus that you run but these are Microsofts faults not jasjars...
to answer your questions
1) this is a bummer.. i really wish they had given the option of backing up device..anywyas thats why you have ppc softwares that do backup..the one working on wm5 is sunnysoft backup..
2)most of the softwares lag behind.. wm5 is out but not all software makers have updated their products..NOTE AGAIN THIS IS NOT JASJARS FAULT..its YOURs you can wait 6 more months by then spbsoftware should have a pocketplus that works on wm5
3)dude again old applications like sktools dont work on wm5... if you want you can use pocket mechanic and memmaid ..they work fine.. for task manager i use dinarsoft handy sweitcher..not only its an excellent application but it works on wm5 aswelll...
4)you have your firewall and antivirus software and to blame for this...not jasjar..for me i had to FORMAT my laptop and install activesync before i turned on firewall and installed an antivirus program...only then did active sync work..and its flawless now.. oen word my personal experience trendmicro2002 doesnt work with AS however 2005 version of pcillin works with its personal firewall set to off...
hope i cleared up a few misconceptions for you
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Well,
1) That is annoying. I hadn't noticed that, but I'm sure it'll be addressed in future...
2) As zohaer21 says, that's purely because we have the latest, greatest bleeding edge technology, and the software developers have yet to catch up. (In the meantime, HandySwitcher is working perfectly on my device, no bugs, no crashes, just what it's meant to do!)
3) Have you tried installing anything from a .cab file to see if you still have a problem uninstalling? I'd guess ActiveSync is probably your problem...
4) Can't really help there...I'd suggest removing Activesync completely from your PC and installing it again from scratch. Personally I'm not using the bundled version of ActiveSync (4.1?) because I had an old 4.0.??? already but I don't think I've heard of anyone else with that issue yet so I'd assume it's a problem with your PC installation?
Carnivor said:
personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
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Carnivor said:
personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
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True, but MS changed WM5 significantly from WM2003, many more changes than Windows 2000 -> Windows XP. The biggest changes were (1) persistent storage and new memory handling and (2) WM5's compatibility with MS Smartphone apps. I am not surprised a good number of apps aren't working.
By the way, SPB's PocketPlus looks like it works with WM5 because they have screen shots on their web site of it running on a Windows Mobile 5 OS. But it may just not be compatible with the JasJar yet.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
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It does not depend on that gap but on what they did durring that gap. If you do not change structural things, backwards compatibility can last a long time.
Actually the gap between WM2003SE and WM5 is quite large for some software developers. Notably some applications that synchronise databases (TimeTTRacker, Commontime mNotes) have to be rewritten from the ground up, even though we are only talking about a 1 year gap. Microsoft did change some crucial things, even if it does not show at first glance.
sorry, my post came across a bit bolshy. It wasn't intended.
I meant that developers would hope that they wouldn't have to re-write their apps every few years. I like the changes, because it adds more structure and makes it more of a uniform platform, but we've got to hope that they don't change these very often.
It would help if MS supplied the emulators for WM5 free of charge. (I'm yet to find any)
No worries
WM 5.0 SDK including emulator for PPC
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...F2-F524-4EC5-9155-717CBE5D25ED&displaylang=en
WM 5.0 SDK including emulator for Smartphone
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CB-738A-4B97-8910-5CD29AB5F8D9&displaylang=en
SPB Pocket Plus version 3 works just fine on an i-Mate JasJar. Older versions of Pocket Plus will not work on WM5 devices of any kind, so upgrade to Version 3 and you can install it on your jasJar. I'm running it on mine.
hey mat1t dont worry about it,
just dont get put deisel in a petrol car, my analogy of the issues
louisk said:
SPB Pocket Plus version 3 works just fine on an i-Mate JasJar. Older versions of Pocket Plus will not work on WM5 devices of any kind, so upgrade to Version 3 and you can install it on your jasJar. I'm running it on mine.
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Correct!
It does work under WM5.0 Just make sure you are on version 3
If you are on Version 3 and still refuses to install, copy the CAB file over the device and execute/install from there.
DaleReeck said:
mat1t said:
Carnivor said:
By the way, SPB's PocketPlus looks like it works with WM5 because they have screen shots on their web site of it running on a Windows Mobile 5 OS. But it may just not be compatible with the JasJar yet.
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hi
it works but it makes it really slow (inlcuding the start up if you use the quick launch menu whatever)..i guess you can say its not wm5 optimized as yet
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SPB Pocket plus does install and work. I had to do a hard reset after I initially used my Jasjar and everything worked right. Like email accounts etc. What I would like to see is a program like gb tweak that keeps the gprs allways alive. But so for there is nothing out there. NO problems with my JasJar at all.
Mike
@Tekflow
Since you got a Jasjar, plz can you upload for us the Arabizer package from the Extended_Rom ?
Click Here! This is how they managed to copy it!
Thank you.
I have the file for you but cannot upload it on the server...
Please send me a PM and I will tell you where to donwload them.
Cheers
Daimaou said:
I have the file for you but cannot upload it on the server...
Please send me a PM and I will tell you where to donwload them.
Cheers
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Pm Sent
Just replied, and if someone can tell me why I cannot UL files on the server it would help me
Cheers
You have to use username:xdaupload password:xda to be able to upload
ftp://xdaupload:[email protected]
I wanna know if anybody know any applications or software that work's or is compatible windows Mobile 5 on the Wizard ?
Am sure the Java Games or apps should work.
Any one tried any that do ?
Tried to install the latest versions of Pocket Informant and SPB Pocket Plus on my I-mate K-Jam but neither worked. Still waiting for replies from tech support departments, will post outcome when I know more.
Thanks for Reply
As soon as i get mine in a few days I will be testing it to the full. I will be downloading and installing many java games and apps and trying anything i get my hands on, on it. Tomtom Mobile 5 for definate !
I am sure many other Helpful people out there will be too, so Keep us posted All !!
Thanks to all those that do !!
Watch this Space !!
the_agent said:
Tried to install the latest versions of Pocket Informant and SPB Pocket Plus on my I-mate K-Jam but neither worked. Still waiting for replies from tech support departments, will post outcome when I know more.
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SPB Pocket Plus works flawlessly in my BlueAngel WM5 machine, however, I feel that SPB P+ slowed down my device so I decided to use combination of iLauncher v2.2 (http://www.sbsh.net) and Wisbar Advance 2.4.1.9 (http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com) which runs awesome (much faster than using SPB Pocket Plus)
As for pocket informant, you need to download WM5 version from here:
http://download.pocketinformant.com/FTF/PI_Public_Build/
I hope this helps
there is a big list of progs that are known to work/not work in the himalaya forum.
what i dont understand though is if the program is known to work ok on wk2k5 himalaya, will the same prog work on a k-jam which has a different kind of CPU? or is it all like PC's now where the make of the cpu doesnt really matter and that windows takes care of all that kind of stuff.
TechniKal said:
Thanks for Reply
As soon as i get mine in a few days I will be testing it to the full. I will be downloading and installing many java games and apps and trying anything i get my hands on, on it. Tomtom Mobile 5 for definate !
I am sure many other Helpful people out there will be too, so Keep us posted All !!
Thanks to all those that do !!
Watch this Space !!
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there is already a warning that tomtom 5 will not install properly through activesync 4, (files have to be transfered without activesync 4) this may also be why some other programs will seem to be incompatable with wm5?
so if you can transfer the program eg by card reader that you want to test, then install it, you may get better results.
mine should be arriving tomorrow
changing the subject slightly, ordered mine from http://www.smartdevicesdirect.com/index.php
very happy with the service.
www.wm5fixsite.com
Post your results, share with the world.
candrat said:
the_agent said:
Tried to install the latest versions of Pocket Informant and SPB Pocket Plus on my I-mate K-Jam but neither worked. Still waiting for replies from tech support departments, will post outcome when I know more.
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SPB Pocket Plus works flawlessly in my BlueAngel WM5 machine, however, I feel that SPB P+ slowed down my device so I decided to use combination of iLauncher v2.2 (http://www.sbsh.net) and Wisbar Advance 2.4.1.9 (http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com) which runs awesome (much faster than using SPB Pocket Plus)
As for pocket informant, you need to download WM5 version from here:
http://download.pocketinformant.com/FTF/PI_Public_Build/
I hope this helps
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while i am waiting for my k-jam i thought i would try wisbar on my qtek s110 to see what it was like, i just want to point out that if i try to exit from wisbar the pda locks up and needs a soft reset?
not bothered but still may happen with k-jam as well
Software list compatible with win mobile 5 !!
check out his list i post :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=30256
Is there any VNC software avilable for the XDA Mini S? I would like to connect to my XDA Mini S from my PC to take screenshots and control it.
Thanks in advance
hi,
you can used one of the powertoys from microsoft.
Remote Display Control (v2.03)
download from the ms homepage -
andreas
I tried that program cus I used to use it for my Ipaq hx4700 but it didn't work
logmein.com is what i use for remote control
haasiesoft said:
hi,
you can used one of the powertoys from microsoft.
Remote Display Control (v2.03)
download from the ms homepage -
andreas
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I have not tried this on the Wizard (currently waiting for one) but I have used SOTI Pocket Controller extensively on many PocketPCs over the years. I find it much better than the MS tool. Not free but not expensive.
www.soti.net
(I have no connection with SOTI)
I use the attached tool for quite a while now, on wm2003, 2003se and wm5 devices, it works great.
I got it somewhere overhere i believe, so the credits go someone else..
copy the 2577 folder to the root of your storage card,
then eject, and insert the card, the first time the device will
ask if you want to run autorun, and you do, so, accept it.
from now on every time you insert your storage card, it will make a
screenshot in that folder 2577, no matter what screen you are in or app.
you are running (for as far as i know then)
good luck with it !
Thanks for all the suggestions everyone, in the end I manage to grab a copy of Pocket-Controller Professional
Hello
I am looking for Baniaczek's Pocket MSN which I installed in my Windows 6 Pocket PC and now I want to install it in my Tornado Windows 6 smart phone. I know I found it some where here on either Hermes or Tornado Forums. But I can't find it. Please help.
I don't like Live Messenger I just want Pocket MSN and the reason I want Baniaczek's is cause the other pocketmsn.cab files I found here for some reason install but don't work. and I get errors like Instmsgr can not be found. And even if I do find and run it I get the same error. Also it is not appearing in ADD/REMOVE programs. Only Baniaczek's version works fine in my pocket pc so now I need it for my Smart Phone
tmjam2002 said:
Hello
I am looking for Baniaczek's Pocket MSN which I installed in my Windows 6 Pocket PC and now I want to install it in my Tornado Windows 6 smart phone. I know I found it some where here on either Hermes or Tornado Forums. But I can't find it. Please help.
I don't like Live Messenger I just want Pocket MSN and the reason I want Baniaczek's is cause the other pocketmsn.cab files I found here for some reason install but don't work. and I get errors like Instmsgr can not be found. And even if I do find and run it I get the same error. Also it is not appearing in ADD/REMOVE programs. Only Baniaczek's version works fine in my pocket pc so now I need it for my Smart Phone
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tmjam2002 said:
Hello
I am looking for Baniaczek's Pocket MSN which I installed in my Windows 6 Pocket PC and now I want to install it in my Tornado Windows 6 smart phone. I know I found it some where here on either Hermes or Tornado Forums. But I can't find it. Please help.
I don't like Live Messenger I just want Pocket MSN and the reason I want Baniaczek's is cause the other pocketmsn.cab files I found here for some reason install but don't work. and I get errors like Instmsgr can not be found. And even if I do find and run it I get the same error. Also it is not appearing in ADD/REMOVE programs. Only Baniaczek's version works fine in my pocket pc so now I need it for my Smart Phone
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i am looking for the same cab file too! very uselful file. can anyone help?
TYTN II
HTC Universal..
william-johnson said:
i am looking for the same cab file too! very uselful file. can anyone help?
TYTN II
HTC Universal..
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found it mate...
is this Baniaczek's pocket msn and will it work in my Tornado Smart phone?
I managed to install it. And now this version is added in the Remove programs. But Instant messenger has error "Can't find Instmsg" or one of it's components. The other options work. I guess pocket msn is only compatible with PPC and not smartphones.
Is there a free bit of software that will allow me to use the ppc as an extended desktop.
I have played with side window, but would rather not pay for it as i don't think I will use it enough lol
RDC is another option
Would that extend the desktop (use the ppc as a monitor)?
yes..its a short form for REMOTE DESKTOP SHARING..just as u do in wiindows..btw which device do u have and which OS ?
I am on windows XP with an htc touch running wm6
daverage said:
Is there a free bit of software that will allow me to use the ppc as an extended desktop.
I have played with side window, but would rather not pay for it as i don't think I will use it enough lol
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With MyMobile you can do that!
You find it here
Not quite what i need, i use that to control my ppc, what I want is to actually use my ppc as a second monitor, but thanks NatroXz
if u have WM6..remote Desktop sharing is already their..just configure it to connect it to ur computer
ok, so that is letting me remote control my pc, how do i get it to act as a monitor instead? thanks so far!!
sorry a bit off subject
basically my mouse has died on me and i was wondering wheather there is a app to turn my ppc into a touch pad which would connect via activsync and control my pointer on my desktop pc ?????
thanks
yep, look up ppc tablet (not free mind)
http://www.aacompserv.com/AACompWeb/Modules/PPCTablet/WhatIsIt.aspx
Check out http://www.innobec.com/en/products.php for what I am looking for. It is good, but I want to find a free way of doing it, as it is quite handy having somthing like notepad open in the ppc whilst i work in the main screen
thanks for the reply i downloaded to software you recommended but it did not install on my x51v .
i ran the cab file and went through the set up ............it said it is installed but could not find it anywhere on the ppc looked in programs and file explorer ....nothing!
i ve got a axim x51v with a cooked a03 rom
thanks for your help
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os x
I was just looking for a program like SideWindow for OS X - I can't find anything. Does anyone know of something that will let me use my WM6 device as an external monitor under OS X?
-GB
So i´ve tried sidewindow.. @ my ppc (htc p-3401 wm5) and the ppc screen stay a little bit white, it lose the phone signal(what?! conflict ?) and nothing works..
tehre´s any equivalent software? or anyone knows how to fix the problem with sidewindow?