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Are you happy with the PPCPE dailer?

Having had my XDA 2 now for a few weeks, and having finally worked out most of the kinks of the really inadequate bluetooth stack (by installing the widcomm stack) I am now moved to address my other annoyances: the very feature poor phone software.
I expected a very configurable phone, but was very disappointed with the microsoft dailer. The short list of features I find missing are:
No separate ring tones can be assigned to each contact. This could be very usefully, as you would know who is phoning without checking the screen.
No software to keep track of your calls or GPRS allowance. Even my old nokia from 3 years ago could do that.
No way to transfer a call from the handset to a headset. I know you can do it the other way around, why not this way too?
Very little status information on the dailer screen. Why is this,when most cell phone screens look like the status display on a jet?
Anyways, there is alot more, and people may want to add their annoyances. Im really wondering if there is any software that can replace the microsoft Dailer (like Pocketinformant replaces the pocket outlook).
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Surur

Took me a minute to know what you're talking about.
No, I hate the built-in dialer on the Pocket PC.
The author of mobidial (http://www.mobidial.com) told me there will be an XDA II version.. hopefully soon.
-arebelspy

hey,
just a few comments....
re: No separate ring tones can be assigned to each contact
- i beleive the o2 xda site has free software for download; one of which is called powercontacts. i believe it allows you to assign a ringtone to each contact. i tried it when i still had the xda1...never got it to work. so, i downloaded a trial version of ringtonex; it works like a charm and i'm able to assign individual ringtones to any contact i want. i immediately bought the software, i think it was for around 9usd. now that i'm using the xda2; the software still works great. for ringtones what i did was record the voice of my friends, officemates, my wife, and used those wav files for ringtones corresponding to their contacts. it also works in tandem with the photocontacts app in the xda2
re: No way to transfer a call from the handset to a headset
-the xda2 has bluetooth and i use it together with the bt200 headset. incoming and outgoing calls are automatically transferred to the headset.
2 cents worth.
cheers mate
robson

Transferring from phone to headset is a headset dependent thing. My HBH-65 allows me to transfer to phone and back to headset, but my Jabra wouldn't have.

Thx for the great pointers. I am definitely getting the RingtoneX app, and mobidail or something similar, when it comes out.
I just wish that developers would design more for handed use, not using a stylus, especially as bluetooth voicedailing does not work.
About transferring to a headset, I mean after you pick up a call with the XDA, transferring the call to a headset should be possible, but has not worked for me yet.
Another minor peeve, why is the sms option not on the dialler, but on the menu bar, and why is speaker phone also not on the front, but you have to press a key for it. There still needs to be alot of improvement. Hopefully independent programmers will kick in and fix all these deficiencies. It does make you wonder if the developers actually use their own devices or not...
Surur

Very little status information on the dailer screen. Why is this,when most cell phone screens look like the status display on a jet?
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i think it's because that most cell phones screens is their version of the today screen
i most surdenly would not wish such a confusing cluttet messy interface on my worst enemy
(yeah of cause not all cellphones are all that bad some many are)

I dont know. At least they should have the battery status on the screen, and the network logo would not be ammis either (currently its difficult to know when you have no reception, or just no reception)
Alot of the stuff thats currently in the task bar could also be bigger icons on the dailer, and it would also make it look less plain and just incomplete, as if its been thrown together at the last minute.
Surur

well not sure if it's much help but if you install some bar like advanced wisbar on your pda you'll have batt status in the bar both in today and the dialer
suppose this is a pre customised vs. free 3. party customising
some people like to set up their device with personal customising and some people want the place they buy it to handle that
in that way i suppose xda and other such devices are more like computers then std phones are
of cause if one get a xda with all the stuff in the preloaded provider rom they get more of that stuff you want
of cause thats not saying that they get enough

Ive been a user of Icbar for a long time, but as notifications is so important on a PPCPE device, and its not supported, I am not able to use it anymore. This is unfortuanate, as I enjoyed knowing what my battary status is all the time.
Surur

If you want to use your finger to dial contacts try Fingerclix by imaginet software. I used it on my Samsung I700 and now my I-Mate and it works just fine.
http://www.imaginet-software.com/index.aspx?p=fingerclix_en

This is brilliant. It would be even better if it could use the phone key insteadof loosing my contacts button. Any idea how to do htis.
Thx
Surur

vetie said:
If you want to use your finger to dial contacts try Fingerclix by imaginet software. I used it on my Samsung I700 and now my I-Mate and it works just fine.
http://www.imaginet-software.com/index.aspx?p=fingerclix_en
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Thanks Vetie for posting the link also can somebody post the link for RingTonex. Man this is great stuff! 8)

Qman said:
Thanks Vetie for posting the link also can somebody post the link for RingTonex. Man this is great stuff! 8)
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http://www.mtux.com/info_ring.aspx
-arebelspy

Assigning Ring Tones for Callers / Groups

I can see an RTFM coming but but does anyone know whether you can assign different ring tones for contacts and / or groups in your contacts list? eg. if work is calling tune to muppet's show rings and if the significant other is calling a different tone.
Oh btw this is for XDA II
Have a happy new year.
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Sadly no you can't. You can only assign different photos for different callers.
There is an app called Caller2Picture that can do photos and ringtones, but I can't remember if it likes WM03. Can't remember where you can get the app either. Probably www.handango.com

its in hacking it or something the link and the poster said it didnt like WM2003 im about to try it on my XDA

here you have a link ...
http://www.mesoftware.co.nr/
regards and Happy New Year 2004,
monika

Ottoman said:
I can see an RTFM coming but but does anyone know whether you can assign different ring tones for contacts and / or groups in your contacts list? eg. if work is calling tune to muppet's show rings and if the significant other is calling a different tone.
Oh btw this is for XDA II
Have a happy new year.
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I think this is what you're searching
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=8675
I'm using it and it works

Ottoman said:
I can see an RTFM coming but but does anyone know whether you can assign different ring tones for contacts and / or groups in your contacts list? eg. if work is calling tune to muppet's show rings and if the significant other is calling a different tone.
Oh btw this is for XDA II
Have a happy new year.
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You can try V2R Call2Picture, new versiom 2.5 works for XDA/MDA II, you may get it at http://www.v2r.ag/. Another option would be Pic&Ring 1.49, get it at http://www.xda.com.cn/E/index.htm.

I will add another one here. To summarize:
1. Caller2Picture (http://www.v2r.ag)
2. Phonext (http://phonext.oabsoftware.nl)
3. MTUX RingToneX 1.31 (http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=8675)
4. Pic and ring (http://www.xda.com.cn)
5. Phone Plus 0.99 (http://www.mesoftware.co.nr) - Free but current version does not work with XDAII

And I for one have not manged to get any of these working on my Xda II, they all seem to change the default ring settings but that is about it.
Weird. Then again none of them play any sound when I as then to play a sample I wish to test - very strange my Xda...

Tekguru
Nothing wrong with your XDA II. I have tried only 1, 2 and 5 on the XDA II and have had similar experiences. They did work OK on the XDA.

Glad it's not just me, oh well someone somewhere is bound to write an application which works.

The app that works
I tested the following application for the ringtones and it works
(Mtux RingtoneX)
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=8675

Tried it, no go for me I'm afraid.

hey,
did you download the latest version for mtux already? i previously had the same problem where the assigned ringtones wouldn't come out. whenever someone would call my generic ringtone would sound. apparently the author of the software said that there are bugs; and thus recommended that you download the latest version. once installed it has a musical note icon on the lower task bar (right beside the bluetooth icon for xda2); it's the shortcut to go to the ringtonex program. after installing the latest version; it works great.
cheers mate
robson

Robson said:
hey,
did you download the latest version for mtux already? i previously had the same problem where the assigned ringtones wouldn't come out. whenever someone would call my generic ringtone would sound. apparently the author of the software said that there are bugs; and thus recommended that you download the latest version. once installed it has a musical note icon on the lower task bar (right beside the bluetooth icon for xda2); it's the shortcut to go to the ringtonex program. after installing the latest version; it works great.
cheers mate
robson
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Yep, I'm telling you the same :lol:

Happy New Year
Hi,
Do you know if Mtux RingtoneX is compatible with MY|PHONE PROFILES?
Could we use both programs without any interference?
Thanks,

HTC Caller ID Sucks

Is it only me, or does the inbuilt Caller ID app that HTC provides suck rather large rocks?
My ROM is pretty recent (unlocked 1.12 WWE), and the Caller ID says it is version 1.20 (Build 18567), but I have the following problems with it:
- Very slow to load my 200 contacts
- Very difficult to find a contact. Click one of the short-cut letter combinations at the top, and it seems to go to a random contact
- Type in a letter/combination, and it finds that letter/combination in every contact (ie RE gives me fREd), rather than using that as the first two letters in a name
- Overall very slow and sluggish to respond to anything. It would be quicker to call Directory Enquiries and then type the letters in using my toes
- Unless I start it (and its running in the background), I don't get any of the PhotoID on ringing functionality
- Setting the font size of the incoming call has no effect - the name still comes up in microscopically small font.
Any suggestions? Shall I unmap the contacts button and use the default Microsoft contacts manager (without any of the cool pictures/ringtones functionality), or is there an update or an alternative?
Thanks, guys
Alex

I've some issues with it as well.
When I try to change the storage path for photoid files, my CallerID keeps crashing.
Is there a registry location where I can change this? I've tried finding it in the registry but I failed at it

I gave up on the HTC version it really is slow, bug ridden and generally crap.
Try Photo contacts instead, its fast, easy to set-up and doesn't alter contacts when you attach pictures as instead of being attached they are simply referenced by the name you store the contact under.
E.g. If your contact is Joe Bloggs then the contact picture is bloggs,joe and it will display full screen too!!!!!

It's slow and buggy memory hug and has ****ty functionality. Don't install this (ie. by preventing from customization) unless you are planning to use ArcSoft MMS 2.5.

I agree its slow but never found a bug with it (until now with the GPRS problem).
Its the best photo contacts software I have seen for the imate and good for when you're in the car with its full screen id and large display of contacts to dial.
Unless you know of another program which is better?

I did just find this, it's pretty cool, I like the fat-finger only use....
http://www.sygic.com/mobile/phoneedition/

madinga said:
I did just find this, it's pretty cool, I like the fat-finger only use....
http://www.sygic.com/mobile/phoneedition/
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So I thought this was pretty interesting. I installed this software today and overall I really like it until the first time I try to sync and I get the old "Unable to connect..." error message. This is the first time I have gotten this message in over a month since doing the downgrade but it is also the first time since then I have installed a prgram that was some sort of contact/caller ID related software.
I uninstalled this program and it seems the error message has gone away..... wierd

nothing better than this : http://www.pocketx.net/products/photocontactspro_ppc/#photocallerid

Tried every program that is related to photo contact and photo dialing. And I came to one conclusion, they all suck.
There is really no program that doesn't slow your ppc down or give an error of somekind...

Uninstall HTC Caller ID
Does anyone know how to uninstall HTC caller ID. When I go into remove programs on my PPC, HTC Caller ID is not listed. I installed it from a cab file that I downloaded here! Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

Uninstall HTC Caller ID
Does anyone know how to uninstall HTC caller ID. When I go into remove programs on my PPC, HTC Caller ID is not listed. I installed it from a cab file that I downloaded here! Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

to fut*
I don't know to uninstall it but there is a way not to install it, but you have to do a hard reset. See instructions here http://pocketpcdubai.infopop.cc/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/582600994/m/237102159/r/237102159#237102159

Question for Jarek
Why should you use PhotoContacts if you use ArcSoft MMS 2.5?
I also don't like the PhotoContacts prog but don't want to spoil anything else.
Thanks

Re: Uninstall HTC Caller ID
futsoulja said:
Does anyone know how to uninstall HTC caller ID. When I go into remove programs on my PPC, HTC Caller ID is not listed. I installed it from a cab file that I downloaded here! Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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1. delete the IA_CID_Startup shortcut file from the \windows\startup directory
2. delete the IA_CID_Startup from the \windows dir.
I think the Caller ID function of this program is decent, but there is no way to backup/restore your photo/ringtone assignments which really sucks. So after every hard reset you have to do it all over again..... :evil:

After I came to this forum and so tired of the htc caller ID I decided to give a try to photo contact as bruxelles5 suggested, and I have to confess that it did impressed me. It was been working perfectly, photos stored in sd card so after hard reset I don't have to set it up again, full screen image and picture arrangement. Very good *****
PS: I got rid of caller ID with anansky method and got 27 mgs store!

Photo Contacts bug?
Does anyone else have a bug in Photo Contacts Pro like me: I have to pick up the phone useing touchsceen button otherwise (with hardware button) both me and caller(!!!) hear nasty "fragmented" end of ringtone wich rings (ca 1 sec) AFTER pressing the button
It doesn't seem to depend on location of ringtones folder (main memory, storage card)...
BTW, all the ringtones are in wma-format. Should I try another format?
Any thoughts?
PS Sorry for my English
SOLVED: Mort, thank you very much for your MortRing!!!

I have this problem as well with the ring tone blasting into the caller's ears when using the hardware button to answer. Do you mind sharing what you did to solve that?

How can you choose which of the caller ID apps opens when a call comes in?

marsonist said:
I have this problem as well with the ring tone blasting into the caller's ears when using the hardware button to answer. Do you mind sharing what you did to solve that?
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Just try this s/w http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=20711&highlight=mortring
I'm happy with MortRing as I don't need Photo ID on my phone but I like to assign individual ringtones very much

It is unbelievable that HTC ships products with this crap. Even a cheap cellphone has better Caller ID functionality. Not only is the program very slow when editing, you can't backup/restore your ringtone/photo assignments. Caller ID doesn't work 50% of the time, and after a lot of troubleshooting, I have not reached a firm conclusion as to why. The only credible explanation I found was in the XDA-developers forum and it simply seems that unless you have plenty of free resourses the program won't work. And still, I have an upgraded Jam (128 MB).
This is very very sad. I miss the solid performance of my iPaq.

Text to Speach Ring Tone Possible?

There seems to be lots of free and open source text to speach code out there: http://sig.levillage.org/?p=551
So, wouldnt it be cool to have your universal say 'Incoming call from <contact name>' instead of your usual ring tone? It gets right around the problem of having to open up the screen to see who is calling.
It would also be a great gimick for people with other phones too. Talking ring tones havent even been done by Nokia yet. 8)

RyanZA said:
There seems to be lots of free and open source text to speach code out there: http://sig.levillage.org/?p=551
So, wouldnt it be cool to have your universal say 'Incoming call from <contact name>' instead of your usual ring tone? It gets right around the problem of having to open up the screen to see who is calling.
It would also be a great gimick for people with other phones too. Talking ring tones havent even been done by Nokia yet. 8)
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Microsoft Voice Command do that and more...
If there is a program to read your incoming sms.....
Regards,
Arto.

Artosoft said:
Microsoft Voice Command do that and more...
If there is a program to read your incoming sms.....
Regards,
Arto.
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Wow, thanks.
Yeah, incoming SMS would be good. :wink:

RyanZA said:
Artosoft said:
Microsoft Voice Command do that and more...
If there is a program to read your incoming sms.....
Regards,
Arto.
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Wow, thanks.
Yeah, incoming SMS would be good. :wink:
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VIJAY...... WE NEED YOU!!!!
Regards,
Arto.

There is the Fonix range which can read your email, but I don't know whether it'd be able to read your SMSes too.
Not to be a stick-in-the-mud, but why would you want SMS-to-Speech?
"Dot Dot Dot Forwardslash dot dot dot Open Bracket dot dot dot", and that's just the first line of one of those cutesy smsses. Or the ones where each letter is converted into it's visual brother, but with umlauts and all the other diacritical marks (accents, breves, circumflexes, spiritus and hooks)? To the english speaking person, the letter "ß" looks like a funky "B", but in germanic, it's an 's" sound.
And "Ur th bst 1 n da wrld" (not a good example, but you get the idea) does not translate well if not heavily interpreted first.
It'd be a "neato" feature, which you'd uninstall after a day's usage.

Can Microsoft Voice Command read up a contacts name and tell me that?
.. Microsoft Voice Command is it worth buying?

Messed around with MS voice command a bit.. havent been using it much before because I dont need the features much over the built in thing. I tried turning on the announce incoming phone calls option, but its really soft. (Far too soft to hear). The normal ring tone plays for a second, then goes soft and I assume the voice command is trying to speak after that, but its too soft to hear, even with the phone next to my ear.

I agree, I love the Voice command function that tells you who's calling but yes it is way to quiet so I usually turn it off, it needs to be load and not trying to swap between the ringtone and voice command telling you the person who's calling. So yes a specific program to do this as a ring tone would be great.

Interesting thread. This is a great idea, but I have to say, MSVC does the job so well, it's probably not worth expanding beyond there. However, I'm looking into a general text to speech solution for PPC.
Our best bet is flite, which is a relatively large install and doesn't sound very good.
However, an easy way for you to start thinking about this is to check out the app WordBook. I think it installs a version of the Flite dll. You can copy text and get it to speak it straight back to you. The speech is quite poor quality, but it gives you an idea. Now I imagine you can access this externally, and so you can intercept SMS, calls etc and get it text to speeched.
However, since MSVC is installed in traditional SAPI form, it should also be externally accessible.
V

Voice Command
I have just tried the demo of Voice Command on universal, but i couldnt get button on bluetooth headset to activate it. Also it would be nice if the caller name being read out would be good over the bluetooth headset.
Can and of the genius's on this site create such a programe. Or anyone know of any other programmes.
Using the phone in clam mode means you dont know whos calling, and as i use my bluetooth headset all the time, it would be nice to know whos calling.
Thanks in advance
Tim

timha: there are about 90 threads on the VC+Clam issue. Non successful, but helpful...
V

vijay555 said:
Interesting thread. This is a great idea, but I have to say, MSVC does the job so well, it's probably not worth expanding beyond there.
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I dont know about that. Have you tried using the announce incoming calls option? On my universal, no matter what settings I try, its simply impossible to hear what VC is saying while the phone is ringing. So for me, VC definately doesnt seem to be doing the job very well at all.
Has anybody been able to get VC to properly announce the caller ID?

No VC is to quiet, so useless

Aaah, ok, I don't use my universal as a phone, and just remember it from the Magician, when it would announce calls. I think there's a thread around trying to resolve this issue though.
V

Voice Command has a known problem of being extremely quiet on the Universal.
Somewhere on this site there is a fix CAB file that ostensibly makes the volume higher. I hadn't found a major difference, but look for it and try.
The announce works best if you turn the ringtone off and use annouce only (make sure your normal volume - not ringing volume - is turned way up)

No good, its still very soft. Having the volume on full is also quite a hindrance, since you have to keep turning it up and down all the time. As they said back in November, we'r going to have to wait on an update to make voice command properly compatible with WM5. There doesnt seem to be any move by Microsoft to actually do this, though.
Strange that nobody has really used voice caller ID on the Universal before - it seems the obvious choice for a ring tone to me on a phone like this.

The hack for increasing sound - never tried it, but it involves, IIRC, changing the attentuation type in the notification settings.
V

Hi.
I only have Voice Commander. Is it different from MSVC? I keep looking for the announce incoming calls but couldnt find it. Voice Commander has been in my phone when I bought it so I just use what's available but it gives me so much headache. When I say "Call John", it gives me several names that dont even sound close to John. Grrr! I even put tags on the names individually but my VC is so deaf! Is it because of my bluetooth headset, VC or is it the phone's fault?
thanks

I've been using this for a couple of years now:
http://www.naturalvoices.att.com/demos/
Type your message, pick and voice and download the WAV
Nice and easy and works VERY well so check it out

RyanZA said:
There seems to be lots of free and open source text to speach code out there: http://sig.levillage.org/?p=551
So, wouldnt it be cool to have your universal say 'Incoming call from <contact name>' instead of your usual ring tone? It gets right around the problem of having to open up the screen to see who is calling.
It would also be a great gimick for people with other phones too. Talking ring tones havent even been done by Nokia yet. 8)
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aside from microsoft voice command; what i use is mortring...i'm sure you guys are familiar with this app...it allows you to assign ringtones and sms sounds to individuals in your contacts. using the xda's microphone, i made my own ringtones by recording either my voice or someone else's. example; i deal with a lot of raw material suppliers and i get calls all the time. when this guy working for a foundry calls me up; the sound i recorded goes "mr. johnson is calling". for others whom i've developed good relationships with, i asked if i could record their voice and use it as a ringtone....so if my supplier from an aluminum die caster calls my xda goes "hi robson, this is ch lim". sms' are easy since you can do the same and assign them for that particular contact. when i receive and sms, my xda goes "text message from ____". for the people who call me that are not in my contacts list; the default ringtone i've set sounds off. this is very convenient for me when i'm driving or the like, no need to look at the phone and simply activate the bluetooth headset.
you don't really have to go and search the net for ringtones all the time; you can use the xda's recorder to actually make them. the format output is in .wav file. for text to speech for sms, i agree that would be a very interesting feature...flite is a good app...perhaps vijay can link up something for sms? but then that would probably violate the license thingee for flite...
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Full screen incoming / outgoing caller ID picture

With all the great working being done here on iPhone-inspired applications, is anyone developing a simple app to let Smartphones and PPC phones display a full screen image (drawn from the contact database image) for incoming and outgoing calls and caller ID?
Kermit

kwoodall said:
With all the great working being done here on iPhone-inspired applications, is anyone developing a simple app to let Smartphones and PPC phones display a full screen image (drawn from the contact database image) for incoming and outgoing calls and caller ID?
Kermit
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This is a thing that's been talked about for years. MS makes software for PPC's with at least resolutions like 240x240, 240x320 etc. But it just doensn't understand that we want to have a full screen caller ID
There are some solutions, but none of them are really small when it comes to memory consumption, or bloatware
Have a look at PhotoContacts and Inesoft Address Book . The last one works the best for me

mccune said:
There are some solutions, but none of them are really small when it comes to memory consumption, or bloatware
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Yeah, I've looked at those, and others. In fact, IAStyle (I think that was the one) has royally screwed up my incoming caller screen now so I get lots of misaligned graphics and random pixels during the incoming caller / caller ID display.
Someone should be able to make a simple caller ID display that uses the graphics already stored with the contacts in WM5/6 and displays the graphic full screen. It would be wonderful if the display used XML to control the layout so it was easy to redesign the layout as well.
Dreaming away...
Kermit

Have you tried AC's slide to unlock, he has this feature caller ID working. Only problem for me, that is, it is not compatible with AE button plus, the problem being, I can't answer calls. But I have tried it without AE button plus installed on my Wizard and it works great, with a minor hiccup that is, you can only get full resolution Full screen photos if you use photoCM to assign your contacts pictures..
try it...

I'm on a smartphone so slide2unlock isn't going to do much for me I suspect.
Also, there's no reason not to use the contact databse's pics is there?
Kermit

kwoodall said:
With all the great working being done here on iPhone-inspired applications, is anyone developing a simple app to let Smartphones and PPC phones display a full screen image (drawn from the contact database image) for incoming and outgoing calls and caller ID?
Kermit
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The same request with Windows 10 for phone am I!
Anyone else help us?

xuxukalo said:
The same request with Windows 10 for phone am I!
Anyone else help us?
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4 years later...wphone 8.1 had it,,,really great in-call ui and caller app but they went to small photos in w10 lol