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Hi all, if you try the following...
1. Click 'Device unlocked' on the Today screen so it changes to 'Device locked'
2. Turn device off / wait for it to go to sleep
3. Turn device on / wait for something to wake it up
...the device has unlocked itself, correct or is it just my Xda Mini S?
So how are we supposed to lock the device properly from accidentaly screen taps -- a problem I keep encountering?
Also, is there any way to add a timeout to the device lock, so if the screen isn't tapped for 5 mins, it automatically locks (assuming we actually make the lock feature work in the first place!).
My K-JAM used to do this all the time.
I never actually worked out the exact cause, i have a feeling it may have been caused by software i was testing when i 1st recieved the k-jam.
It stopped doing it altogether after a recent hard reset.
Sorry i wasnt more help.
Cheers
Chris
the device lock wasn't made with these systems in mind... it's intended for smartphone devices which don't have a 'suspend' state - let alone a button you can push to put it into, and bring it out of, that state.
If you want a free, proper locker, put the following in your today-screen-app-launcher of choice:
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=14621
This'll 'lock' even the on/off button (immediately 'locks' again if you try to turn it back on, or shut it off (by holding down the on/off button - as you need to confirm by dialog)).
On the down side, it'll also turn your display off.
To unlock, on the Wizard, you need to press the Messaging (top-left, front side) button and the Voice Dial/Memo (top-right, side) button at the same time.
That lock/unlock feature on the Today screen is pretty crappy actually. I locked my keys religiously. And half the time, I would pull my phone out and it was on a webpage or on my email... and I never opened them.
I'm hoping they fix this...
-Mc
Well it's ridiculous that O2 etc. keep the function enabled by default on the Today screen of their units, if the feature is for Smartphones only! But then, there's a lot of things O2 don't understand about the world but don't get me started on that.
Warning! Do not use Screenlock!
Warning: I think this program just killed my Wizard. Don't install unless you know the risks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=212261#212261
People, please don't recommend software on here that is not tried and tested on WM5.0.
On my Qtek 9100 it works. The only button that doesn't lock is the power button. Accidental tap of the power button will turn the screen on. You cannot even press and hold to power off when locked. When phone comes back on it stays locked.
I have been using this application for a while now - but I think the warning for installing sofware goes for all software. Who is to say that SPB doesn't install something that 'phones home'? Or that Mort Script doesn't cause irreperable harm to the registry stack when using its registry functions?
I've had no problems with it, but I guess I'll continue in your other thread.
I also can't just quickly tap the on/off button. Sure, it goes on - but it then immediately goes off again as well.
Thanks. What happens if the device crashes or you soft reset whilst the screen is locked? Does it reboot unlocked with the screen on? I wondered if mine had somehow locked completely, so the screen is off when it reboots ...but that wouldn't explain no LEDs working either :?
I don't know about crashes but, with some reluctance - admittedly, I tried the soft-reset (pin button at the right) while the screen [w]as locked...
...the device switched off, switched back on, booted up, and displayed my Personal Info screen.
So... no problem there, sorry :/
Well I have my replacement Mini S now. Any other programs than ScreenLock that do this? I'm sure I found once, but I can't find it any more :?
I couldnt get screenlock to work on the ppc6700, but mortsaver worked just fine, you might want to try that.
I'm perhaps misreading this, but the device locking seems to work ok for me on my XDA Mini S. Once I've locked the Mini S the only way I can use it again is to unlock it - if I touch the power button or let it go standby itself, when I touch the power button to wake it up, it remains locked. Also, if I hold down the power button for five seconds or more the Mini S will not give me the option to switch off entirely.
John
Hi John,
Do you have a Device Password setup? ( Start > Settings > Personal > Password > [x] Prompt if device unused for... )
I find that when
1. Device Password is enabled
2. you lock the device
3. you press the device on/off button (goes to standby)
4. you press the device on/off button again (goes back on), the device is unlocked.
When Device Password is disabled, and you then follow steps 2-4, the device remains locked
In my experience this is true [it sort of makes some sense you can't type in your password with the device/screen locked].
it would make sense if...
A. the password dialog would actually pop up (note that if you turn the device off/on manually, before the password prompt timeout, the password dialog does not show up)
and
B. they would first show the unlock screen and -then- the password prompt
The password prompt facility effectively overriding the unlock screen is just bad software design.
well put zeboxx... i wanted to say something in those lines but couldn't articulate them properly [ended up with a it sort of makes some sense jibe...]
ZeBoxx said:
Hi John,
Do you have a Device Password setup? ( Start > Settings > Personal > Password > [x] Prompt if device unused for... )
I find that when
1. Device Password is enabled
2. you lock the device
3. you press the device on/off button (goes to standby)
4. you press the device on/off button again (goes back on), the device is unlocked.
When Device Password is disabled, and you then follow steps 2-4, the device remains locked
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Nope, I don't have a device password enabled which explains it.
John
I keep getting the device lock keypad popping up whenever I power up my phone or every hour which is the setting I have. But now I want to disable it. I think it automatically got set due to an exchange server I was connecting to but now I don't need that anymore. The device lock setup won't let me clear the pin number. Is there a registry setting I could clear? Any help is appreciated.
Hi,
Phone Lock on my HD2 is set to ask for password if phone is unused for 15 minutes. But my HD2 ask for Phone Lock password each time the screen goes off. Is it possible to change this behavior?
I have the same problem. The phone lock is set to 24 hours, but if the dispaly goes off and i power it on the hd ask for the phone lock password, too.
Can someone help?
Usually if I don't want the phone to lock, I just set the screen not to turn off at all. Under settings, display etc.
HI,
i want, that the screen is locked but only with the slider. At the moment i slide to unlick and then i have to enter the phone lock passwort. But this password should only appear if i restart my HD2 (for this reason i set the phone lock password option to 24 hours).
with my "old" HD this works great.
Download this cab file to your device > run > switch off > switch on
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=246722&d=1258236796
Strange, does this fix work for everyone else?
After I installed it, once I press the power button to shut the screen off, when I press any of the hardware buttons, it dumps me to the screen that I was on, but no longer asking me to swipe. I guess I'm looking for the fix so that the below behavior happens:
1) If I press any of the buttons before my "timeout" happens, phone should ask me to swipe my finger to "unlock" the screen.
2) If I press any of the button after the "timeout", then phone should ask me to swipe but then also ask me to punch in a PIN or complex passwd, depending on the setting.
Are there any registry hacks that can do what I described? or does it do exactly that and it's my particular phone that isn't working?
thanks!
m1k1 said:
Download this cab file to your device > run > switch off > switch on
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=246722&d=1258236796
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Having been interested in exactly the same thing, it seems like this cannot be done at present. The lock is either there with a password or not there at all. My current compromise is to set a one digit pin, but that's a bit pointless really.
The slider can be added with S2U2 but this seems to defeat the object somewhat...
I have the same problem. I'd like to be able to lock the device (or at least to turn off the screen) without typing the password at each unlock. I set it to 24 hours.
The patch should be fine as temporary solution
Password lockout problem solved
Great,
this has solved my problem that intermittently and usually overnight I get 'incorrect password message' when I try to unlock, only solved by a soft reset which is rather worrying.
I don't want to have autolock, especially every time I switch on and off like you all.
This little add on allows manual lock (by setting widget on screen with SPB mobile shell), and I have set default to 12 hrs for password screen.
Many thanks
Rory
RoryC said:
my problem that intermittently and usually overnight I get 'incorrect password message' when I try to unlock, only solved by a soft reset which is rather worrying.
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Ha! Think that's worrying? ...You're right.
I had this a few times in the past and each time was able to solve it by a soft reset.
Not the last time, though. After trying numerous soft-resets, I finally saw no other way out than to hard-reset my device. In the end, it didn't even display the "incorrect password" dialog anymore. I suspect I had entered an "incorrect" password too many times, but the device did not manage to present me with the "enter a1b2c3" prompt that it usually does when that happens.
Very, very frustrating. Some quick googling gives a few reports of this happening to other people, not just on HTC handsets either. Not too many though, so it sounds like it's pretty rare.
(For the record, running 1.48 WWE here, had a 7-digit simple PIN set as the device lock password, with Windows Default display)
i have the same problem it asks for password every time i unlock the phone and the bad thing is that sometimes even correct password doesnt seem to work so that i have to soft reset or wait for half an hour b4 trying the password again , just confused about it . australia
i took out my password for now. i have to reset once in 2 days now to unlock phone. i wont be able to make a call in case of an emergency so better option take it out.
mobilebuddha said:
Strange, does this fix work for everyone else?
After I installed it, once I press the power button to shut the screen off, when I press any of the hardware buttons, it dumps me to the screen that I was on, but no longer asking me to swipe. I guess I'm looking for the fix so that the below behavior happens:
1) If I press any of the buttons before my "timeout" happens, phone should ask me to swipe my finger to "unlock" the screen.
2) If I press any of the button after the "timeout", then phone should ask me to swipe but then also ask me to punch in a PIN or complex passwd, depending on the setting.
Are there any registry hacks that can do what I described? or does it do exactly that and it's my particular phone that isn't working?
thanks!
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Is there any fix for this problem yet?
with S2U2 you can set up a password config. (require password every: 5mins/15mins/1hr/ 4hrs or 12 hrs) S2U2 seems to eat my battery up though, thats the downside. also you have to download the "disable autolock" cab for it to work from the tweaks an mods sticky in themes/ apps forum. its a shame about the battery drain as this app is awesome but definately worth a look.
sorry heres linkhttp://s2u2.ac-s2.com/
Same problem and no answer until now ?
I also have the problem that I cannot configure my HTC HD2 that the screenlock works without PIN. I like to start the secure lock only after a certain time i.E, but there is only the way everytime with PIN or at anytime with PIN.
Sometimes mostly overnight the device "forgets" the correct PIN and I have to make a softreset. After done this , I can enter the oriinal PIN.
Is there no solution until now ?
Is there any idea what to do.
Read tip 27 of the Sticky Tips and Tricks - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638 - then the PIN will only be required after the timeout, not every time you lock the screen.
The bit where it doesn't accept the password is a known bug reported elsewhere, but there's no fix yet; I wish there was, because I get it occasionally.
Resolve screen lock issue by editing registry
Enable/Disable the Exchange security policy – HKLM\Security\Policies\00001023: 0 = Enabled; 1 = Disabled
Inactivity time
HKLM\Comm\Security\Policy\LASSD\AE\{50C13377-C66D-400C-889E-C316FC4AB374}\AEFrequencyType: 0 = No inactivity time; 1 = Activity time enable
HKLM\Comm\Security\Policy\LASSD\AE\{50C13377-C66D-400C-889E-C316FC4AB374}\AEFrequencyValue: number of minutes before timeout
thesedays74 said:
Enable/Disable the Exchange security policy – HKLM\Security\Policies\00001023: 0 = Enabled; 1 = Disabled
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Until the buggers push it out again and you get fed up of having to set a PIN then edit the registry every day
Incidentally, is there a way to lock the screen without a PIN after a set period of time? All I can find is either a manual lock or a lock with a PIN.
Slidelock & pin code every time driving me nuts!
thesedays74 said:
Enable/Disable the Exchange security policy – HKLM\Security\Policies\00001023: 0 = Enabled; 1 = Disabled
Inactivity time
HKLM\Comm\Security\Policy\LASSD\AE\{50C13377-C66D-400C-889E-C316FC4AB374}\AEFrequencyType: 0 = No inactivity time; 1 = Activity time enable
HKLM\Comm\Security\Policy\LASSD\AE\{50C13377-C66D-400C-889E-C316FC4AB374}\AEFrequencyValue: number of minutes before timeout
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I made these exact reg edits (my very first registry edit!) and it's made no difference at all, my HD2 still asks for pin every time I switch off & on.
I want to keep the slide lock to prevent accidental button presses when device is in my pocket, but the pin input is a pain my previous device only asked for it once every 24 hours or after powering up the phone. Has anyone solved this yet?
Should I change the registry back to pre-edited?
Disable hardware buttons
I realized one thing that is draining my battery is the accidental press on hardware buttons when my hD2 is in my pocket. Is there a way to disable the hardware buttons other than the end/power button when the screen is turned off ? It is silly that the press of any hardware button turn on the screen ...
No matter what I set in the lock properties (even if I disable lock) my HD2 turns on the lock screen whenever I power off the display (end call button) and wake it again. Is there a way to only activate the lock after the time specified in the lock settings has passed?
mfly9 said:
No matter what I set in the lock properties (even if I disable lock) my HD2 turns on the lock screen whenever I power off the display (end call button) and wake it again. Is there a way to only activate the lock after the time specified in the lock settings has passed?
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Sadly, the answer is no.
It's either on, or off.
whenever you go to suspend, it would lock (or not, depending on the settings), it does not consider the time parameter.
(this is my experience.
if someone else knows how to suspend without locking,
but set a lock only after a specific time without usage,
I would also be glad to know how)
Som30ne said:
It's either on, or off.
whenever you go to suspend, it would lock (or not, depending on the settings), it does not consider the time parameter.
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My experience is that the device wakes up locked (simple swipe unlock it if no password is set) even if the lock settings are disabled. I remember my Touch Diamond didn't have this issue...
power button -> screen off -> wait a little -> power button -> screen on. power button -> screen off -> wait 16 minutes (15 was the lock setting) -> power button -> screen on & lock screen.
this is what I want
I think what you can do is to use the S2U2 v.2.30 lock instead of the default WMo lock.
Through the right S2U2 settings (e.g. Lock when device wake up, Replace WM6.5 system manual lock etc.), the S2U2 should be able to override/disable the default lock settings. Then by setting the right sleep/suspend/wake intervals using the device setting and/or other power management apps, you should be able to achieve what you want.
Btw, there is also a registry tweak (also available in .cab) to fully disbale the default screen lock. Just search "Disable Auto Device Lock.cab" in this Forum.
Hi,
Could you please advise how to ring a switched off S4 i9505?
Also, how do I lock this device on boot up, similar like on a PC where you require a boot password.
Thanks
fnb10
If the S4 is completely off, which given the context of your question I assume is the case, you cannot ring the device at all. An equivalent in the PC world would be trying to access the hard drive while the computer is off. A smartphone must be in sleep mode for it to receive calls.
To set a lock on the device varies depending on the ROM, but in general, Settings > Lock Screen > Screen Lock. From there you can select from the following.
Swipe (no lock)
Pattern (draw a diagram you create on a 3x3 grid that appears on screen)
Pin (4-digit numeric password)
Password (alphanumeric password)
Questions belong in Q&A, not General.
Thank you.