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Problems sending mail through smtp when using GPRS

I have had no trouble sending and receiving e-mail when I am connected to the servers of my ISP. That is, dial-in ISP, to which I connect via cell phone, where the pop server and the smtp server belong to the ISP where I also have my e-mail account.
The moment I connect via GPRS, all I can do is download my e-mail. When I try to send, I get all sorts of error messages stating that the servers could not resolve the recipients' names. Is there a way around this? :?: Do I need to specify a proxy. How does anyone else connect via GPS and send e-mail from their regular ISP POP account?

i have the same problem
so far i've used the workaround which is
that my isp (which is not my cellphone gprs isp but my cable isp)
have a www mail gateway so i can use IE to login to that and send my mails that way

Yeah! I do that, but when I reach the web mail page and try to click open an e-mail, nothing happens. So that is a dead end for me! There has to be a way around the SMTP issue. We'll figure it out!

Hi
Are you using the smtp address of your pop3 provider or your gprs provider?
My xda ii is connected via an orange uk sim and i use it to both send and receive email from my o2 and blueyonder accounts. In order to send from these accounts i have to use the smtp address of orange ie smtp.orange.net rather than the smtp addresses of my pop3 providers.
Hope this helps
Chris

Indeed it would help if I only had a means to find out the smtp server for my cell phone service provider. Believe me, I've tried and no one ate Telecom Italia Mobile (TIM) has a clue as to what I am talking about. I tried smtp.tim.br and smtp.tim.com.br but neither worked
Any clues...?

try something like relay.tim.it or they should have some data support.

According to an NSLOOKUP against their domain name, their primary mailserver is smtp1.tim.com.br - try that.
Fork.

Hi everyone!
Fidlling with the smtp settings, I finally found out how to send mail over a GPRS connection using your ISP's pop mail account.
Everyboy, when set up an account, must fill in the pop.ispserver.com and the smtp.ispserver.com. It so happens that using the GPRS smtp (those who have one) or using pop relay, is trcky and does NOT work! The solution is:
1. Goto Inbox
1.1. Select Accounts
2. Select the account you want to edit (presumably the account you been able to download e-mail but didn`t allow you to send e-mail)
3. Enter you POP mail e-mail address (step 1/4)
4. Enter user info (name, user and password) (step 2/4)
5. Enter account info (type is POP3 and name will be grayed) (step 3/4)
6. Server Information (step 4/4) critical step
- fill in your pop account info (pop.ispserver.com)
- fill in your smtp account info (smtp.ispserver.com)
- leave domain blank!
6.1. Click Options and don`t check anything! Goto step 2/3
6.2. Select (checkmark) outgoing e-mail server requires authentication
- Do NOT check Require SSL connection
- Select Only display messages from the last X days, if you want
Click NEXT and you are good to go!!!
It worked fine for me with TIM in Brazil and Cingular in the US! Some POP3 services don`t allow this kind of connection!

E-Mail Problem

Hi, I'm new to this site and definitely not a "techie", was wondering if anyone can help?
Recently purchased a QTek 9100 (aka imate jam, wizard?) and set up a new messaging profile for use with lineone (Tiscali) in the UK. I'm receiving e-mail no problem, but whoever I try to send to Ithe message is sent then returned to the draft folder and in my inbox I get the message
"System Administrator, Your message 'xxx' was not sent and has been moved to the Drafts folder. The following recipients are invalid: [email protected]"
Any ideas?

Solution??
I had the same problem. My solution was to open an email account with vodafone (its free) and created a rule to forward my mail to the new vodafone email address. I can recieve and send mail via the vodafone account with no problem. I think that many isp's don't allow you to log on with mobile devices.
I have a signature set up saying the mail was sent "ia my Kjam but please reply to my work email address", so i have a copy on my desktop and on the mobile device.
Only drawback is that you must logon to the vodafone account and delete you old meassages once in a while.
Hope this helps

Isn't it just the outgoing smtp server that is wrong?

Isn't it just the outgoing smtp server that is wrong?
Yes, I sure your right about this. I found that I get really fast, 100% logon with Vodafone email solution. I have worked in Spain, Italy, USA since I got my 9100, the email is always there every 15 mins. I need to be in touch, this works for me.

Thanks for the responses,
Yes I've set up a completely new account with Vodafone, this allows me to send mail and then I connect to lineone to receive. I don't particularly want to have my mail re-directed through Vodafone so this seems to be a good compromise.

Hi guys, looks like your smtp address is wrong, like q-big suspected. You can use the pop server of your email account to get mails from any mail server, but when you want to send mail over themail servers of your mobile provider, be sure to set the smtp server to the one Vodafone (in your case) uses. example: I have various email accounts on my Wizard. My incoming mail server (POP server) is different for each of my email accounts, since they are with various different email services. My smtp server is the same for all of them, namely T-Mobile smtp, since all my email will be sent out using T-mobile gprs.
Try setting the smtp server to the one your provider uses and you should be ok.

have you made sure you have authentication tcked for your outgoing mail? go into your account settings for the mail account you want to use. press next untill you get to the screen where you put the incoming and outgoing mail servers and click options, next and tick "outgoing mail requires authentication"
as your not connected to the internet using your isp (tiscali in your case) you have to authenticate to send mail too to stop people spamming from there servers

Yep, you just need to use the vodafone's smtp server and that should solve your troubles.
HTH
Jim

I had this problem. I spoke to my ISP who supply the e-mail addy in question.
They said that they blocked e-mails coming from any other connection than their own - i.e. unless you send the e-mail from your home computer (with the ISP account) it will be blocked and get that "invalid recipient" message.
There's a post out there somewhere that gives other "outgoing mail server" settings which seem to work, but that's on O2, not Vodafone.
-b

I think on voda the smtp server is send.vodafone.net
i know it sounds odd, but it worked fine when i was on voda in the UK a while ago.

I had a same invalid error but it was just the smtp port AND smtp authentication. PUt both of those together and worked!

multiple smtp servers.

I use wireless at home, wireless at work, and gprs otherwise. These obviously use separate smtp servers to send mail. How can I set this up???

SMTP
You can set the outgoing smtp mail server on each account. Just set up multiple accounts.

yeuch! I see microsoft thought long and hard about that one

sholdowa said:
yeuch! I see microsoft thought long and hard about that one
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How else do you imagine your email is going to be sent using another account? That isn't the fault of your device, it is the way SMTP works. Most smart companies have Relay turned off on their servers anyway. Yes they could set it up to allow Relay on authentication, but from a useability standpoint I believe that setting a specific SMTP server per account is the smart way to go.

well, I'm not sure about SMTP in other places, but in NL it's often a case of whether your ISP-assigned IP address belongs to the same company running the SMTP.
E.g. when I'm up north in the country, I'm using wifi on an @home network, and need to set my smtp to mail dot home dot nl . But when I'm back at home, I'm going through Casema, and need to set smtp to smtp dot casema dot nl.
I *could* set up two accounts, but then all my e-mail is separate as well. Instead, I just change that little variable, and I'm all set for the duration of my stay at either location.

LOL! I have the same issue! I want to manage mutiple SMTP servers but the only way appears to be manualy changing the setting.
Surley somebody could write a small app with perhaps common SMTP servers and the ablility to add your own server settings and then poke it into the smtp setting?
I'm not a programmer but I don't think it''l be that difficult? All you would need is a selection screen od smtp servers and then get the app to change the setting???
Any programmers up for that challenge? :shock:

multiple smtp servers - solution
Hi Guys
The only thing I see for this problem is to use server which does not check where are you connecting from. Something like www.inmail.sk
In this case I use for all my account different pop3 receive server, but all have the same smtp (smtp.inmail.sk). Just every account using they own email address. This way the emails will be send as they would be from different accounts.
Of cause you have to get one inmail account. Which is free anyway.
rastip

The better solution is to find out if one of your email providers supports smtp authentication.
As someone mentioned earlier most providers block "relaying" -- sending email while connected to a network other than their own -- so people can't use their server for spam.
Luckily, some of the smarter email providers also provide a solution to this problem -- authentication, which just means to provide your username and password. Then you can use their server no matter what network you happen to be attached to whether it's gprs, wifi, or whatever.
You can find out whether your smtp server supports authentication by telnetting to it from your desktop computer.
At a command prompt type
telnet yoursmtpserverhere 25
then type
ehlo yoursmtpserverhere
If it returns something like AUTHENTICATION or AUTH PLAIN TEXT, you're golden.
Use that server for all of your email accounts and enable authentication in each account by going to the last email account set up screen and clicking Options. On the second Option screen, check the box "Server requires authentication".
Then click on Use Seperate Settings and enter the username and password for the email account of the smtp server you're using.
Now you'll be able to send email no matter what network you are connected to.

Can Receive but not Send EMAIL

I did setup outlook email in tytn. I can recieve emails fine. Why its impossible to send? I have tried in every possible way. Error appears, your incoming mail server not correct, check and try again. Incoming and outgoing server both are correct. What can be reason? Tytn is cool but i hate it when it cant just send an email. Extremely irritating.
Help will be appreciated.
Reliance

reliance said:
I did setup outlook email in tytn. I can recieve emails fine. Why its impossible to send? I have tried in every possible way. Error appears, your incoming mail server not correct, check and try again. Incoming and outgoing server both are correct. What can be reason? Tytn is cool but i hate it when it cant just send an email. Extremely irritating.
Help will be appreciated.
Reliance
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Sorry but you do not give enough info to work with. You say incoming mail server is correct but it helps us to know what you have it set to and who provider is. For example I notice that lots of internet sites have an incorrect port settings for O2 UK MMS. So when you say your setting is correct; there might be someone here who says it will work if you change it to ?????. Did you set this up manually or was it done by the wizard?
Cheers
Mike
PS. Edited your thread title - you must give brief description of problem/issue. "EMAIL" does not encourage people to help!

You might not be allowed to send email because you are not actually on your email provider's network. I was not able to send Charter.net email via my Cingular device, until I changed the outgoing server to match Cingular's outgoing SMTP server.
I hope this gives you another direction in which to investigate a solution.

my location is norway. i am using network solutions as my email provider. in coming mail server is mail.waqar.com and out going mail server is smtp.networksolutions.com everything seems fine. then why its not working?

reliance said:
my location is norway. i am using network solutions as my email provider. in coming mail server is mail.waqar.com and out going mail server is smtp.networksolutions.com everything seems fine. then why its not working?
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Hi
I found the following comment on the following website:
Note: Some ISPs will not allow you to use Network Solutions’ outbound mail servers. If that is the case, type in the name of your ISPs outgoing e-mail server (ex. smtp.myisp.com). You may also try and configure Network Solutions’ Outbound Mail server to connect to Port 2525 instead of the default Port 25.
http://www.emailuserguide.com/07-howto-setup-email-software.htm
Might relate to your problem??
Mike

i had the same problem. all i had to do (after strugling for a week) was check the box next to "outgoing mail requires... (missing text)" in outlook. Hope this helps!

it was smtp.waqar.com instead smtp.networksolutions.com
thanks guys

[Q] Three network SMTP SERVER name...

Hi
Does anybody know the correct SMTP name for Three network as I have tried all combinations under the sun..(smtp-mbb.three.co.uk, smtp.three.co.uk) and they all fail to connect to my NTLWORLD account using the standard HTC Desire email client..
Can receive email but sending on the move fails..
Three customer service dont know and cant be bothered ringing them up again and hanging on for ages warming up my ear
Steve

Found away of doing it thank god.
The ntlworld.com SMTP server is only accessible when you are physically on the NTL/Virgin Media network.
The virginmedia.com SMTP server, however, can be accessed outside the NTL/Virgin Media network.
1. So set up a new virginmedia.com email on the virgin media website
Use this account to authenticate with the virginmedia.com SMTP server, but send the e-mail from your @ntlworld.com address
2. In your GMail accounts and import you would configure 'send mail from another address' and add another email address you own. Here you would add your ntlworld address.
3. In the next page SEND MAIL THROUGH YOUR SMTP SERVERS click 'send through ntlworld servers' and add smtp.virginmedia.com and your full virginmedia email address (eg [email protected]) as a username/password with port 465
4. Put SMTP.VIRGINMEDIA.COM on your phone as a SMTP address but with your full virginmedia email address (eg [email protected])as a username and your password. Use SSL and port 465.
And it works ON BOTH wifi at home and on the move via Three's 3G network and possibly others..
Steve