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Hi,
This maybe intresting to someone, ive not tryed the 30 trial as i have no use for live email.
Got a PDA, Pocket PC or Smartphone? With Fasthosts Livemail you could already get Outlook® email from your home, office computer or any internet-connected browser... but now you can also get it on your mobile device thanks to the exclusive GoodLink data push software available with all new Livemail packages.
With GoodLink, Livemail can now push email, contacts and schedule data directly to your hand-held device in real-time, just like a BlackBerry. Any activity like new mail, meeting requests or changes to your schedule are recognised immediately and displayed on your screen as they happen.
Retrieving email on your hand-held will keep you constantly informed of the day's developments, helping you to recover hours of lost communication time. What's more, all mailbox data is stored centrally on a secure server in one of Fasthosts' cutting-edge UK data centres, so even if you lose or change your computer or hand-held device - all your email, contacts and schedule data is fully backed up.
Find out more about Livemail with GoodLink data push at:
http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/email/
I tried it - managed to work fairly well until I decided I wanted to uninstall it as the goodlink software overrides all of your existing accounts.
Didn't really bother reading a manual on uninstalling it as I just tried to remove it from remove Programs - didn't want to go - reset it to make sure no components were running when I next tried it - it said it had uninstalled it but there were still lots of residual evidence it had been there.
Eventually hard-reset and had to start from scratch again.
Don't get me wrong, I think it would be fantastic - one issue though - you do need to tell them a domain you wish them to receive mail for - didn't see an option to receive mail from an account forwarder.
If you already have a domain, this means transferring your domain record (or possibly just the MX record) to fasthosts.
I pay a monthly sub to 4smartphone.net - the service is excellent. Fully hosted exchange account that'll support "proper" push as soon as the device can be updated to support it.
I was told you cant pay monthly for 4smartphone you have to pay a year upfront
Chris
Thats also what I thought - I had signed up for a trial account and was told it needs a year to continue service.
erm you're right - year up front, but I look at it in terms of what it equates to per month... sorry for misleading
he he - no worries mate.
Have 4smartphone definitely confirmed they'll be supporting the push technology once the devices support it?
Am i confused here with this push email, i set up 4smartphone trial and when an email is received it sends a message to an email address that it has received mail, i set this up so an sms was sent to my phone from that email account when the mail arrived from 4smartphone, this activated my device to contact the server and get the mail, isnt this push email, the only problem was i had to pay for the sms triggers and it was costing a fortune to do it, what we need is the subscription to 4smartphone that sends a text message rather than an email at a reasonable cost
Guys enlighten me please
I thought the very same - O2 charge me 10p per SMS but I couldn't find any clear providers who would do the same for cheaper. Most providers were on about sending SMSes rather than allowing you to receive via their systems.
From what's been said, once the new update comes out with the push technology, the requirement for SMSes goes out the window as this is one of the things the exchange developers wanted to get rid of - reliance on the network provider.
All you need is a network connection of some sort (be it wifi, gprs, cradled) and it should receive the updates.
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he he - no worries mate.
Have 4smartphone definitely confirmed they'll be supporting the push technology once the devices support it?
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I think so, yes. In fact I think they've already upgraded their exchange servers to the correct service pack - so we're just waiting on an operator to bring out a ROM for the Universal which incorporates the Windows Messaging and Security patch for WM5.0
To the others - yes, you can set it up to text you if you receive email etc. Personally I just leave mine to check every 10 mins (which, lets face it, is practically instant "push" anyway!) as on average I receive a new mail less than 5 mins after it is sent. The data overhead is minimal this way and no texts are needed.
another push email 30 day free trial
i have tried another email push service for pocket pcs. it is called Pocket X-Press. you can access your pop3 and imap4 mail server and get a realtime push wit out checking from device in an interval.
you can download a trial version for wm 2003 and 2005 under: www.pocketxpress.com
has anybody experience made with this?
you tell us mate, you developed it
I have the latest rom and want to sign up for push email using outlook so my diary is always up to date too, anyone recommended a good provider
Cheers
Chris
Which country are you in?
Personally I am using intellisync and DON'T need the push email update.
And I am getting full replication of my diary, contacts, emails, notes etc.
My Blackberry has been handed back to my IT department.
EXCELLENT.
Robin
PS I am in the UK
How does Intellisync work? I've been to their website, but just get a load of rubbish - nothing on how it actually works.
Does it use GPRS, Wi-Fi?
Intellisync
Thats exactly what i have just though reading it, all i want is to have my outlook email, contacts and diary always up to date and email sent to my device as it arrives
fastmail
I use fastmail for my imap pushmail. It's not suitable for contacts/calendar sync.
M
I use t´his, I use that......Nice to know
But, how does it work, where do i get it and so on.....
I need a system to get my mail pushed or "blackberried" to my MDA Vario
I have a debian/confixx-Server, is there maybe any software that i can install to use this for email-push. If this is so, i woul give acces to XDA.developers-users
For Intellisync you need a PC with your Outlook email always running which you configure to push your email to their system, very easy setup.
Then you go to their website (via IE on the Wizard) and it downloads a large cab file, does the install, configures itself then downloads all your email (within defined paramaters like size and date etc, diary, contacts, tasks and notes.
There after any changes on your PDA or your Outlook box are automatically synced.
Uses WiFi or GPRS which ever transport method is available.
I made sure I was on WiFi when I did the install and original sync but since then depends on where I am I somestimes switch to WiFi or just leave it on GPRS.
Does this help?
Robin
@oltp
How do you achieve 'pushmail' using fastmail? I too have an imap fastmail account but I can not get it to 'push' my emails.
You're damn lucky, I almost backed-out of this thread. You need a third-party pushmail client. I use vgsmail for this http://www.vgsmail.com/ppc/ Mind you it isn't perfect, so I only use it for private mail not for business mail. My company doesn't allow that anyway. The support & updates from the developer are ok though.
Cheers, M
Another web sync site www.plaxo.com
regards, M
free opensource application for your server to get push email:
Sync4j
has aslo been reviewed at msmobiles.com
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4892.html
CIAO!
VOODOOS!L
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For Intellisync you need a PC with your Outlook email always running which you configure to push your email to their system, very easy setup.
Then you go to their website (via IE on the Wizard) and it downloads a large cab file, does the install, configures itself then downloads all your email (within defined paramaters like size and date etc, diary, contacts, tasks and notes.
There after any changes on your PDA or your Outlook box are automatically synced.
Uses WiFi or GPRS which ever transport method is available.
I made sure I was on WiFi when I did the install and original sync but since then depends on where I am I somestimes switch to WiFi or just leave it on GPRS.
Does this help?
Robin
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I have looked at the intellisync.com website. Which of their products are you using?
I'm trialling pocket x-press. No frills - not cheap, but it seems to do what I want.
https://www.pocketxpress.com/
pj123 said:
Robster said:
For Intellisync you need a PC with your Outlook email always running which you configure to push your email to their system, very easy setup.
Then you go to their website (via IE on the Wizard) and it downloads a large cab file, does the install, configures itself then downloads all your email (within defined paramaters like size and date etc, diary, contacts, tasks and notes.
There after any changes on your PDA or your Outlook box are automatically synced.
Uses WiFi or GPRS which ever transport method is available.
I made sure I was on WiFi when I did the install and original sync but since then depends on where I am I somestimes switch to WiFi or just leave it on GPRS.
Does this help?
Robin
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I have looked at the intellisync.com website. Which of their products are you using?
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Sorry.
It does say Intellisync in a number of places but here is the website of the company I am actually using.
http://www.esemail.net/
Sorry about that.
Robin
Thanks
Thanks Robin,
That looks interesting, but I can't find a monthly cost anywhere on their website. Don't like the idea of signing up for a free 14 day trial without knowing the costs.
Would you please tell us how much you pay per month?
Thanks
plaxo is free
Its not cheap.
I thik about £15 a month.
But for me, only having to carry one device AND always having a fully upto date diary and email is a REAL boon and worth it.
Robin
If anyone wants a free way to get push e-mail, you just need an exchange server. If your company doesn't have one, you can get one for FREE from mail2web.com.
http://services.mail2web.com/FreeServices/m2wLive/
I'am looking to buy the 02 xda exec i want Push email on the device does it have the AKu2 ROM?
has o2 released it?
any other ways around this ?
tomcoleman said:
I'am looking to buy the 02 xda exec i want Push email on the device does it have the AKu2 ROM?
has o2 released it?
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I just reall don't see what all the fuss is about. If I buy a blackberry I can get push email by adding on the £12.77/mth instant email package.
If I want to do it on my Exec, I have to have £700 Exchange or similar configured on a server, and pay someone a monthly fee for exchange hosting on top of that (I think?)...?
I work in O2 sales, and they were training us in the update the other day, but the vast majority of our SME customers won't have Exchange + Win Server. To be honest, it makes more sense to simply check your email every 10 minutes automatically for most people...
Am I way off base here, am I missing something??
i have exchange and windows server.
i want push email as it will simply alert me when an email hits my inbox and i dont need to watse time connecting and checking all day
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i have exchange and windows server.
i want push email as it will simply alert me when an email hits my inbox and i dont need to watse time connecting and checking all day
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Most people don't have exchange and server running though.... and there's no wasting time involved in setting your exec once to check mail automatically on a set schedule.
I just think too many people are getting excited over this for nothing.
I'd have said that A2DP was more important for most.
@belfast biker,
I'm with you. I was an IT Manager (as well as a Management Consultant) a few years ago with a small company. The Consultants wanted Black Berry devices with Push email. I said it was not worthwhile (even though we did use MS Exchange, a Black Berry server would have been another £2500) and so I set-up email downloads on their mobile phones and told them to check their emails when they had a spare moment. Guess what, most very happy with this solution as they did not to start their laptops and look for a dial-up point etc.
I used to have a blackberry. Its actually a great device in corporate mode, useless for personal (as it does not let you manage your main email acc, you have to set up an account with a provider so its a whole hassle). The main reason that push email is great is that, on the blackberry, you do nothing. then when email comes a green light flashes. You just brush a button and it shows you the subject. If you want to see the first few lines you just click another key, all instantaneous. If you want to see the whole email you click to download + attachments. I would love to have this facility on the universal. I expect that like the blackberry service providers will eventually offer a personal service (i.e. no BES or exchange server needed).
I'm quite happy with web based email on the universal however. I refused a blackberry from my company as I don't want to be working at 5 in the morning ...
For push email, looks like I'll be using one of the exchange hostsing services:
1&1
Option 1: 69p/mth for "Instant Email"
"1&1 Instant Mail gives you 5 dedicated POP3/IMAP e-mail accounts to create [email protected]. Send and receive e-mail from any Internet - connected computer."
Option 2: £5.99/mth for "Microsoft Exchange"
"Experience the benefits of seamless communication and collaboration with Microsoft Exchange. Use Outlook to send and receive e-mail from any Internet-connected computer."
4SmartPhone.Net
Option 1: $3.99 for "Express"
Includes Push Email, Wireless Sync, OWA: Outlook Web Access
Option 2: $6.99 for "Professional"
As above plus Outlook 2003 support, Sharing of email, contacts, calendar and tasks
Mail2Web
Option 1: FREE - Pop3, IMAP4 or SMTP not supported (huh???)
Option 2: $1.99 for "Personal Exchange"
"With our Enhanced Email plan, based on Microsoft Exchange, you are never far from your email, contact, schedule and other personal information. It’s all available from either your desktop, the web, as well as any Windows-powered mobile devices as Pocket PC, Pocket PC Phone Edition and Microsoft Windows®-powered Smartphones. Get information as it arrives where ever you may be.
Microsoft Exchange is much more than an email solution - it's a complete messaging solution that goes way beyond email to provide calendars, task management, contact lists, advanced rules for sorting your messages and much more.
Previously this solution was only available to businesses but we have developed a special version with the individual in mind. Now you can get your own Personal Exchange account on the mail2web.com domain."
OK, now I'm confused...
What exactly does everyone else use, and how much does it cost, what option and what does it give you?
looks like very attractive services, wonder if anyone has had a few months using these services, and can comment on the reliability etc.
Always a bit weary of hosted services, had dropped emails from hosted services in the past!
I was going to go with 1&1 however, it seems to me as though I have to pay for six months up front.
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I was going to go with 1&1 however, it seems to me as though I have to pay for six months up front.
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I've went for the $6.99 a month (but a year upfront after the fifteen day trial) 4smartphone.net service. So far, so excellent!
Does it include the Universal client or are you using a new ROM?
There isn't a client as such as the functionality is already built into ALL of the Roms.
The main difference is the existing ROMs may not have the push functionality that a lot of people are waiting for.
I used smartphone during the trial on my original O2 ROM, this meant an SMS being sent to my device everytime I got a new message, however once I got hold of a ROM with push technology, I tested it with an Exchange Beta and it just worked out of the box - I suspect the same will be the case for 4smartphone.
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trapper said:
I was going to go with 1&1 however, it seems to me as though I have to pay for six months up front.
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I've went for the $6.99 a month (but a year upfront after the fifteen day trial) 4smartphone.net service. So far, so excellent!
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Also, I was downloading an outlook profile to I can use my outlook fully synced as well as OWA, and there was a problem which stopped me getting into my outlook at all!
I emailed them, and they replied with a full solution within 20 minutes. On a Sunday!
I tend to judge a company by how they handle things like this - any company is good when things work, but when things go wrong it's good to know you'll not be left up the creek without a paddle.
Top marks. Will definitely be buying the years service after the 15 day trial.
I'm just applying for it now.
Did you say that you worked for o2?
trapper said:
I'm just applying for it now.
Did you say that you worked for o2?
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Yup, in Business Sales. I've to give a training session in Data tomorrow - group shared tariffs, personal tariffs, GPRS/3G/Wifi, BlackBerry vs. XDA, Email vs. Push Email, that kinda thing. Having done all this at the weekend will help me - otherwise I'd be telling them to tell our customers that if they want Push Email on the XDA IQ, they'd have to invest in Server 2003, Exchange etc etc.... at least this way, you do without all those capital costs and do it for just £4 per month to 4smartphone.net, plus minor data costs. Although I'd not recommend the process to normal humans.
How do you set it up on the phone agan? :roll:
trapper said:
How do you set it up on the phone agan? :roll:
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You only get the Direct Push Email button option in the xconnections manager once you set up your activesync properly, and manual instructions for this are on their web page quite good ones I may add. I could foolow them!
Hi! I Would like to use push email service for my personal email account but i dont have an exchange server neither i can afford one...are there any free push email service providers or even paid would do, but i want real time push email, not the one which requires client to b installed on pocket pc..please help..i have wm5 on jasjar..
there are tons of posts about push email. your question is too vague to answer. please search and ask a more specific question. yes there are free push email services. i don't know what they are.
Try:
http://www.seven.com/products/consumers/index.html
i was a smartner duality customer for a while before seven bought them on both a wm2003se and a smartphone. then company stuck me with a blackberry and i used it for a while. when i got sick of it i tried to get the seven version of the smartner software they distribute. well, i am an exchange user with a large exchange installation and no IT support for one off configurations like mine. when i went through seven CS they were rather slow but knowledgeable, too knowledgeable it seemed they were asking for stuff i had no idea what it was. anyway the seven software couldn't access my global adress list. and the problem never was resolved. since then we found BB connect SW for WM5 and it works so i get to use my company BB pushmail account on my uni with email and calendar. i don't know if the seven consumer stuff works but the enterprise didn't for me. and customer service is slow to respond to single users (why all the email redirector comanies dissapeared, too much support for too little money).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=268605&highlight=smartner
you can try web2mail.com