I'am looking to buy the 02 xda exec i want Push email on the device does it have the AKu2 ROM?
has o2 released it?
any other ways around this ?
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I'am looking to buy the 02 xda exec i want Push email on the device does it have the AKu2 ROM?
has o2 released it?
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I just reall don't see what all the fuss is about. If I buy a blackberry I can get push email by adding on the £12.77/mth instant email package.
If I want to do it on my Exec, I have to have £700 Exchange or similar configured on a server, and pay someone a monthly fee for exchange hosting on top of that (I think?)...?
I work in O2 sales, and they were training us in the update the other day, but the vast majority of our SME customers won't have Exchange + Win Server. To be honest, it makes more sense to simply check your email every 10 minutes automatically for most people...
Am I way off base here, am I missing something??
i have exchange and windows server.
i want push email as it will simply alert me when an email hits my inbox and i dont need to watse time connecting and checking all day
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i have exchange and windows server.
i want push email as it will simply alert me when an email hits my inbox and i dont need to watse time connecting and checking all day
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Most people don't have exchange and server running though.... and there's no wasting time involved in setting your exec once to check mail automatically on a set schedule.
I just think too many people are getting excited over this for nothing.
I'd have said that A2DP was more important for most.
@belfast biker,
I'm with you. I was an IT Manager (as well as a Management Consultant) a few years ago with a small company. The Consultants wanted Black Berry devices with Push email. I said it was not worthwhile (even though we did use MS Exchange, a Black Berry server would have been another £2500) and so I set-up email downloads on their mobile phones and told them to check their emails when they had a spare moment. Guess what, most very happy with this solution as they did not to start their laptops and look for a dial-up point etc.
I used to have a blackberry. Its actually a great device in corporate mode, useless for personal (as it does not let you manage your main email acc, you have to set up an account with a provider so its a whole hassle). The main reason that push email is great is that, on the blackberry, you do nothing. then when email comes a green light flashes. You just brush a button and it shows you the subject. If you want to see the first few lines you just click another key, all instantaneous. If you want to see the whole email you click to download + attachments. I would love to have this facility on the universal. I expect that like the blackberry service providers will eventually offer a personal service (i.e. no BES or exchange server needed).
I'm quite happy with web based email on the universal however. I refused a blackberry from my company as I don't want to be working at 5 in the morning ...
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Hi,
This maybe intresting to someone, ive not tryed the 30 trial as i have no use for live email.
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I tried it - managed to work fairly well until I decided I wanted to uninstall it as the goodlink software overrides all of your existing accounts.
Didn't really bother reading a manual on uninstalling it as I just tried to remove it from remove Programs - didn't want to go - reset it to make sure no components were running when I next tried it - it said it had uninstalled it but there were still lots of residual evidence it had been there.
Eventually hard-reset and had to start from scratch again.
Don't get me wrong, I think it would be fantastic - one issue though - you do need to tell them a domain you wish them to receive mail for - didn't see an option to receive mail from an account forwarder.
If you already have a domain, this means transferring your domain record (or possibly just the MX record) to fasthosts.
I pay a monthly sub to 4smartphone.net - the service is excellent. Fully hosted exchange account that'll support "proper" push as soon as the device can be updated to support it.
I was told you cant pay monthly for 4smartphone you have to pay a year upfront
Chris
Thats also what I thought - I had signed up for a trial account and was told it needs a year to continue service.
erm you're right - year up front, but I look at it in terms of what it equates to per month... sorry for misleading
he he - no worries mate.
Have 4smartphone definitely confirmed they'll be supporting the push technology once the devices support it?
Am i confused here with this push email, i set up 4smartphone trial and when an email is received it sends a message to an email address that it has received mail, i set this up so an sms was sent to my phone from that email account when the mail arrived from 4smartphone, this activated my device to contact the server and get the mail, isnt this push email, the only problem was i had to pay for the sms triggers and it was costing a fortune to do it, what we need is the subscription to 4smartphone that sends a text message rather than an email at a reasonable cost
Guys enlighten me please
I thought the very same - O2 charge me 10p per SMS but I couldn't find any clear providers who would do the same for cheaper. Most providers were on about sending SMSes rather than allowing you to receive via their systems.
From what's been said, once the new update comes out with the push technology, the requirement for SMSes goes out the window as this is one of the things the exchange developers wanted to get rid of - reliance on the network provider.
All you need is a network connection of some sort (be it wifi, gprs, cradled) and it should receive the updates.
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he he - no worries mate.
Have 4smartphone definitely confirmed they'll be supporting the push technology once the devices support it?
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I think so, yes. In fact I think they've already upgraded their exchange servers to the correct service pack - so we're just waiting on an operator to bring out a ROM for the Universal which incorporates the Windows Messaging and Security patch for WM5.0
To the others - yes, you can set it up to text you if you receive email etc. Personally I just leave mine to check every 10 mins (which, lets face it, is practically instant "push" anyway!) as on average I receive a new mail less than 5 mins after it is sent. The data overhead is minimal this way and no texts are needed.
another push email 30 day free trial
i have tried another email push service for pocket pcs. it is called Pocket X-Press. you can access your pop3 and imap4 mail server and get a realtime push wit out checking from device in an interval.
you can download a trial version for wm 2003 and 2005 under: www.pocketxpress.com
has anybody experience made with this?
you tell us mate, you developed it
Greetings all,
I upgraded my 8125 to the Qtek ROM via summiter's ROM upgrade tool, (worked perfectly, thanks summiter!) and I enabled push email.
Since I didnt have and Exchange server, I signed up for one with 4smartphone.net after reading about them in PocketPC Mag. Anyone use them? there's a 15 day trial, but they couldnt get my account setup right after calling them 3 times and about 4 hours wait, then it seemed to work, push email worked great..
Now this morning, they're server is unresponsive again.. jsut wondering if anyone uses them and what their experiance with them is.. i'm not to happy with them right now..
I would also be interested in this. I need to find a good shared exchange provider and I am thinking about going with Intermedia.net.
I wasn't happy with the response I got on a pre-sales query. So I used 1and1.co.uk instead.
They provide push mail (but don't list it) and support a multi-domain email. The only down side is that they don't provide spam filtering. But I figured out how to block it (spam) via filtering.
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I would also be interested in this. I need to find a good shared exchange provider and I am thinking about going with Intermedia.net.
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I have been using 4smartphone for about a month w/o difficulty -- I use Outlook rules to send copies of all my office mail to 4smartphone which then pushes them to my k-jam. Only negative in this is that all the msg. come in with my name and address as the sender (no prob changing this if I use reply but it is an extra step). Service is quite fast and so far w/o problems in either direction.
well, just got an email from them about the server outage, with them profusely apologising.. at least they're letting their customers know about it..
another thing i didnt really like is you have to pay for a full year up front.. although right now i'm diggin' the fact that i get push email(tested i get an email within 15 seconds of it being sent), and also that my Outlook on my laptop and my 8125 are fully synced.. if i read it on my 8125, it's listed as read on my laptop and vice versa, so i dont have to re-read anything or whatever.. pretty slick.. they also sync contacts, tasks, calendar, etc too..
they have a 15 day trial, so im gonna give it another week or so and see how it goes..
Just signed up for this at mail2 web. I used to use them ages ago just to check a couple of pop3 accounts at work, but they are doing a beta of a free hosted Exchange service. Even better is that you can get a personal Exchange account for $1.99 a month. You need to create an email address with them, but you can link other pop3 accounts to it as well.
http://services.mail2web.com/FreeServices/m2wLive/
What I like about 4smartphone.net is that when you send mail through them, it will show as your own pre-set email address and not [email protected].
I just finished the trial and signed up for their Express service. I think you can get your money back (pro rata) if you cancel before your subscription expires.
I was considering 1and1.co.uk or 1and1.com too, but couldn't be asked to change all the settings.
I've been using 4smartphone since January and so far I am very happy with them. I have sent about 4 emails to tech support and I received responses within a few hours and they were very helpful. They even verified that my account switched from SMS notification to direct push when I asked (after I upgraded).
I really like using them, so much so that I got the company I work for to sign up with 4smartphone. There are a total of 9 people at my work. Great customer service and a great price.
I just setup a mail2web account and had some problems getting either the txt message based push to work or the direct push to work.
After I contacted them they told me this functionality hasn't been installed and will be done over the next week.
good service
I used 4smartphone when i was working from my office at home and the service was good. I am in a 30+ staff office now and we use Intermedia which is great to. I've got my email set up on my blackberry and you can check your email through outlook on the web which is convenient as well.
www.emoze.com has just come up with a push email feature for mobiles and pdas.
i just wanted to know if anyone has tried out the service and how is it?
i don't have an outlook exchange server so i can't really set up direct push on my 8125.
I just checked and Emoze does not support the Qtek 9100 yet
try selecting the Tmo MDA.. same thing.. i'm downloading the program now to see if it works..
ok, stay away from it for now, it is in beta, but here's what happened to me..
1. it replicated my contacts about 40 times.. i had to go thru and delete duplicates... ugh..
2. Program on the PC desktop crashes randomly, it crashed 4 times in a 30 minute period..
3. kinda flaky performance.. it works as in the push email function, it notifies you, but then it took 3-4 trys on the PPC to get out of the notification/program and see the actual email in outlook..
give it time and if they perfect it a little, this will be very cool to have..
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ok, stay away from it for now, it is in beta, but here's what happened to me..
1. it replicated my contacts about 40 times.. i had to go thru and delete duplicates... ugh..
2. Program on the PC desktop crashes randomly, it crashed 4 times in a 30 minute period..
3. kinda flaky performance.. it works as in the push email function, it notifies you, but then it took 3-4 trys on the PPC to get out of the notification/program and see the actual email in outlook..
give it time and if they perfect it a little, this will be very cool to have..
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Cool, thanks for the input. Hopefully they'll fix the bugs soon so we can use it.
replicated my contacts also, it states that you cannot have activesync running while this program is running, which is kinda ridiculous...another thing is, it runs OFF of your computer, uses your OUTLOOK, nothing on their end, its just a piece of software...in other words, if your computer is off, no email....useless if you ask me
Ya know, it's a shame the T-Mobile's SMS-based notification feature isn't a bit better tuned. It really works well - just takes to long to notify your phone of a new event.
For anyone who hasn't tried it. When you go to the T-Mobile website, you can put in the info for one or more of your non-T-Mobile email services. You can use POP3 or IMAP4 servers along with your SMTP server, and you specify your email login and password.
After that, you can click on the feature in your MDA that retrieves specs for your email account from T-Mobile's servers, and pocket Outlook will set up an appropriate additional account for you in the MDA. With this all set up, you can, in addition to your normal way of checking your email, check your email account via the T-Mobile website or via your MDA simply by doing a Send/Receive on the MDA in the Messaging app.
The neat part that T-Mobile hasn't quite implemented 100% is that you can have their server monitor your email account for new incoming messages, and in turn send a "silent SMS" to your MDA to let it know when new email has arrived. Then your MDA automatically kicks off a Send/Receive, fetches whatever email is waiting on the server and notifies you.
This works quite well. The ONLY problem is that that it may take way too long for you to be notified that something new is on the server. This could be due to one (or both) of two possibilities:
1) T-Mobile's back-end servers may not be monitoring and checking your email server frequently enough. If it checks for new email every minute, that's great - but if it waits 30 minutes between checks, that's about the best you can hope for when waiting for your MDA to be notified about new incoming mail.
2) Even if T-Mobile's back-end servers "know" that your email provider's servers have new mail for you once a minute, that only helps if the "daemon" (or whatever process they use) sends the "silent SMS" to you immediately. If the "silent SMS" is queued up, and the process to send them out is delayed, or possibly scheduled to happen once every 30 minutes, we have yet another way in which it takes too long for your phone to be notified that new email has arrived.
Whichever delay is causing this, it would be fantastic if T-Mobile could fix it. If they did, this would, functionally, serve the purpose of push email for many of us -- especially for those of us who have unlimited messaging as part of our plan with T-Mobile.
despite the bugs, it worked great, and i'm gonna keep an eye on their progress..
This is basically the program i've been looking for. Something that I can load on my own PC (since it's on 24/7) and have it sync my inboxes on my 8125.. it was nearly instantaneous when it worked on my system..
a note to people that want to try this though...
1. BACKUP YOUR CONTACTS!!!!
2. Make sure ActiveSync is set to not sync anything, and turned off.
3. Then run the program..
I wish it was more stable, and i'd use it all the time, but until then, im sticking with POP updating every 2 minutes..
I can't get it to work on my PC in my office. My company uses a proxy server and the desktop app can't connect to the internet. Any suggestions?
not really sure.. but keep an eye on this thread from their forums, the emoze team might respond with an answer..
http://forum.emoze.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=44
I have trying mail2web.com it uses push for activesync for free.
working very well.
mail2web isn't true push, its pull...
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mail2web isn't true push, its pull...
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I think they started push service in their "live.web2mail" bbeta but I could be mistaken as I have not tried it. Even if it free it wont be for long as MS has pretty expensive licensing fees per user to use exchange server. I think they have 6 months where they can claim 0 users. The emoze you need your home pc on all the time. For me it would be ok cuz i always keep my pc turned on but for a lot of people i dont think they do that.
Any news on this? Is it working yet? I keep my computer on all the time and was looking at running Exchange Server from it to get Push Email, but maybe I'm better off waiting for this?
I've been using a mail3web live account for a couple of weeks and it works very well. I just had to set up mail forawrding from my own ISP. I'm pretty sure it's not push email but it works fine through active sync on the PPC as long as I remember not to kill the application. You can set it to synch with the sever as often as you like and as I'm a bit worried about getting a large bill and I'm not too wooried about getting everything instantaniously I've set mine to synch with the server every two hours. If I want to check more frequently I just hit send/receive.
Dave
Whoops - no I haven't discovered a new one! The above should read mail2web live account!
Dave
I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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ok, so can you please tell us more...any link for the tweak? thanx...
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jamichy said:
I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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ok, so can you please tell us more...any link for the tweak? thanx...
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There's no tweak. mail2web just upgraded to Exchange SP2, so if you've got a ROM in your wizard that supports push (I'm using the 2.17 custom on my TMO MDA), sign up for a free mail2web account, forward your email there from other accounts, and follow the diretions to set it up on your Wizard, and you will get true push email now.
The only problem I have is that I forward my gmail to my mail2web, and once or twice/day I notice I'm not getting e-mail, sign in to my gmail account and under the forward it says gmail is having trouble forwarding to that account. I push try again, and it starts sending my email again for maybe a day. I think mail2web is either having a problem receiving so much mail (there's been a big buzz about it on xda and howard last few weeks), or else it might be a problem with their spam filters...
MC
thanx for ur reply...that's exactly what i did and got a gmail account too and everything's ok here...all my mails are directed to my mail2web account ( actually live.mail2web.com account)
But can not succeed in push to mail...my rom is the "test only" one I think it's the one before the official 2.17....Any chance to get it work though?
Many thanx...
For push email, looks like I'll be using one of the exchange hostsing services:
1&1
Option 1: 69p/mth for "Instant Email"
"1&1 Instant Mail gives you 5 dedicated POP3/IMAP e-mail accounts to create [email protected]. Send and receive e-mail from any Internet - connected computer."
Option 2: £5.99/mth for "Microsoft Exchange"
"Experience the benefits of seamless communication and collaboration with Microsoft Exchange. Use Outlook to send and receive e-mail from any Internet-connected computer."
4SmartPhone.Net
Option 1: $3.99 for "Express"
Includes Push Email, Wireless Sync, OWA: Outlook Web Access
Option 2: $6.99 for "Professional"
As above plus Outlook 2003 support, Sharing of email, contacts, calendar and tasks
Mail2Web
Option 1: FREE - Pop3, IMAP4 or SMTP not supported (huh???)
Option 2: $1.99 for "Personal Exchange"
"With our Enhanced Email plan, based on Microsoft Exchange, you are never far from your email, contact, schedule and other personal information. It’s all available from either your desktop, the web, as well as any Windows-powered mobile devices as Pocket PC, Pocket PC Phone Edition and Microsoft Windows®-powered Smartphones. Get information as it arrives where ever you may be.
Microsoft Exchange is much more than an email solution - it's a complete messaging solution that goes way beyond email to provide calendars, task management, contact lists, advanced rules for sorting your messages and much more.
Previously this solution was only available to businesses but we have developed a special version with the individual in mind. Now you can get your own Personal Exchange account on the mail2web.com domain."
OK, now I'm confused...
What exactly does everyone else use, and how much does it cost, what option and what does it give you?
looks like very attractive services, wonder if anyone has had a few months using these services, and can comment on the reliability etc.
Always a bit weary of hosted services, had dropped emails from hosted services in the past!
I was going to go with 1&1 however, it seems to me as though I have to pay for six months up front.
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I was going to go with 1&1 however, it seems to me as though I have to pay for six months up front.
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I've went for the $6.99 a month (but a year upfront after the fifteen day trial) 4smartphone.net service. So far, so excellent!
Does it include the Universal client or are you using a new ROM?
There isn't a client as such as the functionality is already built into ALL of the Roms.
The main difference is the existing ROMs may not have the push functionality that a lot of people are waiting for.
I used smartphone during the trial on my original O2 ROM, this meant an SMS being sent to my device everytime I got a new message, however once I got hold of a ROM with push technology, I tested it with an Exchange Beta and it just worked out of the box - I suspect the same will be the case for 4smartphone.
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trapper said:
I was going to go with 1&1 however, it seems to me as though I have to pay for six months up front.
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I've went for the $6.99 a month (but a year upfront after the fifteen day trial) 4smartphone.net service. So far, so excellent!
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Also, I was downloading an outlook profile to I can use my outlook fully synced as well as OWA, and there was a problem which stopped me getting into my outlook at all!
I emailed them, and they replied with a full solution within 20 minutes. On a Sunday!
I tend to judge a company by how they handle things like this - any company is good when things work, but when things go wrong it's good to know you'll not be left up the creek without a paddle.
Top marks. Will definitely be buying the years service after the 15 day trial.
I'm just applying for it now.
Did you say that you worked for o2?
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I'm just applying for it now.
Did you say that you worked for o2?
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Yup, in Business Sales. I've to give a training session in Data tomorrow - group shared tariffs, personal tariffs, GPRS/3G/Wifi, BlackBerry vs. XDA, Email vs. Push Email, that kinda thing. Having done all this at the weekend will help me - otherwise I'd be telling them to tell our customers that if they want Push Email on the XDA IQ, they'd have to invest in Server 2003, Exchange etc etc.... at least this way, you do without all those capital costs and do it for just £4 per month to 4smartphone.net, plus minor data costs. Although I'd not recommend the process to normal humans.
How do you set it up on the phone agan? :roll:
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How do you set it up on the phone agan? :roll:
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You only get the Direct Push Email button option in the xconnections manager once you set up your activesync properly, and manual instructions for this are on their web page quite good ones I may add. I could foolow them!
Hi! I Would like to use push email service for my personal email account but i dont have an exchange server neither i can afford one...are there any free push email service providers or even paid would do, but i want real time push email, not the one which requires client to b installed on pocket pc..please help..i have wm5 on jasjar..
there are tons of posts about push email. your question is too vague to answer. please search and ask a more specific question. yes there are free push email services. i don't know what they are.
Try:
http://www.seven.com/products/consumers/index.html
i was a smartner duality customer for a while before seven bought them on both a wm2003se and a smartphone. then company stuck me with a blackberry and i used it for a while. when i got sick of it i tried to get the seven version of the smartner software they distribute. well, i am an exchange user with a large exchange installation and no IT support for one off configurations like mine. when i went through seven CS they were rather slow but knowledgeable, too knowledgeable it seemed they were asking for stuff i had no idea what it was. anyway the seven software couldn't access my global adress list. and the problem never was resolved. since then we found BB connect SW for WM5 and it works so i get to use my company BB pushmail account on my uni with email and calendar. i don't know if the seven consumer stuff works but the enterprise didn't for me. and customer service is slow to respond to single users (why all the email redirector comanies dissapeared, too much support for too little money).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=268605&highlight=smartner
you can try web2mail.com