Hello, I am a little confused, how do I set up the push email service? I mean, how do I get it to work?
Is it my service provider (Vodafone Germany) that will push my emails to my Jamin or are there any other Providers? What are the settings I need to make?
Many thanks for your help!!
Vodafone only wants to sell you a data tariff, you have to set up your own Exchange server to push email to your Win Mobile 5 device. So the key would be for you to find someone (company or private) that can supply you with a exchange mailbox, over which you can have your incoming email pushed
http://www.vodafone.de/business/datenuebertragung/email/80894.html
http://www.thinprint.com/cortado/index.php?lc=19&s=4427
Push Email as we know it, but similar to Repligo software lets you view attachments in Outlook Mobile even if you don´t have the relevant application installed.
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Hello:
I can dial into my company network using my XDA and dialup, ok. Does anyone know how I can receive my corporate emails? I suspect I need some software for the XDA which can access MS-exchange servers, is there any such out there?
thanks
corporate mail
all i can tell you is the way we do it at our company. exchange has web access so to access our corporate mail the address would be
http://mailserver.*****.**.uk
type in your login and password and bob's your auntie.
no special software required.
ian
Hmmm. I gave it a try, no luck. maybe it is blocked by our firewall. :-(
POP server
I can do my corporate e-mails trough a pop3 server, and with the nice patch I can do my private e-mails trough a hotmail http account.
works perfect
So check if you have a pop3 mailserver account.
Similarly I check my corporate Exchange server with Pocket Outlook using IMAP4 (can get folders other than Inbox). I also get my Yahoo email using POP3.
Hmm - no idea how to use IMAP4 or how to get them through e pop3 server.
I don't know much about how mail works, i just usually collect it and send it. details on how to set these two possible solutions would be most welcome.
Icarusbop
Why don't you ask the IT dept ?
At my work place, I can access email remotely though the web interface of Exchange / Outlook. I still have to be connected the RAS service here though as the server is not advertised on the internet.
Rob.
Hmmm
the problem with that is two things...
the XDA is not a company issue thing, so they will probably not like me doing this.
Our it dept is ridiculously crap.
Icarusbop
Icarusbop are you useing vodaphone on your xda ii
Yes, I am using vodafone. I have a company mobile, calls are paid for by company, so I obviously wanted to use the voda card in my XDA II
if you got an exchange server, you can add activesync and outlook mobile access with server 2003 and get your email auto updated thru text messaging. I have the whole set up hosted out of my apartment
I've just upgraded my 02 Exec to the latest rom etc. I was under the impression that it will have push email but I can't find it. When I restarted it I was given the option of choosing corporate but I didn't know what the difference was. Should I have selected that? And if so which configuration? Would that give me push email through 02? (I only have 'normal' POP3 accounts.)
Thanks!
push email is built in the the upgraded OS .... this will only work if you have an email account using Exchange Server not just emails which are using POP3 protocol. POP services uses pull email technology ...
FYI
If you want to test it try out mail2web.com and click on the "mail2web.com LIVE" link on the homepage, free exchange server with push email and you can set it to collect email from other email accounts if they don't support forwarding to mail2web (which is the closest way of getting push email from your own account unless its on an exchange server that will allow you to sync to it). Don't have push email on my MDA PRO but when t-mobile bring out a new rom with it enabled I'll give it a go.
Thanks alot for your replies.
Hello,
Just got my Cingular 8125 as I have a need to check email on the road. I will be using wifi for connectivity to the internet and hopefully to check email.
I'm very new to this and don't understand the concept of email to smartphones. I keep coming across the term push email when researching upgraded roms. I think I want it but I'm not sure what it is. I'm assuming it allows my phone to just get email without having to connect to GPRS or wifi. Sort of like text messages. But really I have no clue and don't know if I need exchange server or not.
Here is what I am looking for... I have about 5 different POP3 accounts for my own domain names. I would like to be able to check these 5 accounts from my phone. I would also like to check my gmail account. I did find some instructions for this on these forums. Ideally, they would just go to the phone as they arrive. Another option would be for me to manually check email occassionally throughout the day through GPRS or Wifi. Would I be able to receive a phone call if I'm downloading emails?
These email accounts are from my websites on shared servers with a hosting provider. I do not have an Exchange Server. Looked into a company called web2email but not sure if I need that either.
Basically, what is the best solution for me to get my emails in a quick and reliable manner. Also, if anyone has any advice on syncing with Outlook that would be great... for instance, if I check email with my phone, is it removed from the server so when I check on my laptop it will show no emails? Then when I sync, will the phone emails be added to my laptop? Vice versa?
Appreciate any advice you might have. I tried to search and couldn't really find anything. If you would rather post a link to another thread or site tutorial that would be fine as well.
Yes i think you guessed right, push email is email that is sent to your device as soon as it arrives to your email account, but you will need a push email account and your gprs will need to be on continously. Some have reported higher costs with push email as it has a higher data use the ordinary pop email. Choice is yours!
When you check emails with your phone, the email stays on the server, and you can set your laptop to do likewise under your pop email account settings.
Thank you. That makes sense.
I plan on getting an unlimited plan (either medianet or dataplan) so I don't think it would be a problem for GPRS to always stay on.
I read something about some setting that will default to wifi if available.
Sounds like this "push email" is exactly what I was looking for. And to think I almost got a Blackberry.
Thanks again.
The push e-mail system on Microsoft Windows Mobile devices requires an active cellular data connection. The device at periodic intervals issues a "heartbeat" to an Exchange server (belong to either your company, yourself, or an e-mail provider). The Exchange server checks the account, sees if you have new mail, and then pushes it back onto the device.
The battery drain is minimal compared to setting up Pocket Outlook to check for messages every X minutes, but it is slightly more than a true push system such as RIM's Blackberry devices. This is because RIM uses true push e-mail, where the network wakes up your device when you receive a new e-mail.
There's a free e-mail provider out there that supports Microsoft Exchange and Direct Push with ActiveSync. Check out the Mail2Web live service, at:
http://live.mail2web.com/
GliTCH82 said:
The push e-mail system on Microsoft Windows Mobile devices requires an active cellular data connection. The device at periodic intervals issues a "heartbeat" to an Exchange server (belong to either your company, yourself, or an e-mail provider). The Exchange server checks the account, sees if you have new mail, and then pushes it back onto the device.
The battery drain is minimal compared to setting up Pocket Outlook to check for messages every X minutes, but it is slightly more than a true push system such as RIM's Blackberry devices. This is because RIM uses true push e-mail, where the network wakes up your device when you receive a new e-mail.
There's a free e-mail provider out there that supports Microsoft Exchange and Direct Push with ActiveSync. Check out the Mail2Web live service, at:
http://live.mail2web.com/
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So it sounds like I will need an exchange server which I don't have. I just have a standard POP3 account with my site hosting...
I like the push idea and will checkout mail2web. I will email them some questions as their site is somewhat confusing for me. It says the free account does not support POP3. I'm pretty sure I would need that. Their business accounts will work but I'm not sure if the pricing per user would allow me to use all 5 email accounts. That said though, if the free version won't work for me the paid accounts are very reasonably priced.
So can someone post a easy walkthru to getting functioning push on a 8125?
To anble Direct Push, you shd hv AKU2 ROm installed on yr device.Then u can very well use it...also you can visit www.mail2web.com for live mail..
Well, when you use a provider like Mail2Web you don't need to setup your own Exchange server, they let you use theirs. And unfortunately, Mail2Web's free live service which lets you use Direct Push doesn't let you use POP3. However, their Outlook Mobile Access is a web based e-mail system that is absolutely great, it mimics Microsoft Outlook's interface and for all intents and purposes eliminates the need for you to use POP3 to check e-mail from your account. When you sign up with them, your e-mail address is [email protected].
As you may have already noticed, for a fee you can upgrade to POP3 access and other e-mail solutions including using your own domain (such as [email protected]) but I have yet to find a need for this. I just forward all my e-mail accounts to my mail2Web account with one drawback: When people get my e-mail it says it's from [email protected].
But with 1 GB of free storage, and a 10 MB (if i remember correctly) message limit and free Direct Push, I'm not one to complain.
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So it sounds like I will need an exchange server which I don't have. I just have a standard POP3 account with my site hosting...
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Some hosting sites (running on Linux usually) will run something like Procmail that allows you to set up filtering and forwarding rules. You might be able to get your hosting POP3 accounts to forward copies of new mail to your mail2web account.
Alternatively, you could poll the POP3 accounts from your PC at home, and have an Inbox rule that forwards relevant (ie non junk/spam) to your mail2web account. That just means having your email client running all the time to do the forwarding...
Final thought is, as you said, to set up Exchange at home, poll your POP accounts (which I believe you can do with the version of Exchange in the Small Business Server) and then set up Push with your own server.
Regards,
Dox
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IdeaDirect said:
So it sounds like I will need an exchange server which I don't have. I just have a standard POP3 account with my site hosting...
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Some hosting sites (running on Linux usually) will run something like Procmail that allows you to set up filtering and forwarding rules. You might be able to get your hosting POP3 accounts to forward copies of new mail to your mail2web account.
Alternatively, you could poll the POP3 accounts from your PC at home, and have an Inbox rule that forwards relevant (ie non junk/spam) to your mail2web account. That just means having your email client running all the time to do the forwarding...
Final thought is, as you said, to set up Exchange at home, poll your POP accounts (which I believe you can do with the version of Exchange in the Small Business Server) and then set up Push with your own server.
Regards,
Dox
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Good suggestions. Yes, I can set up all sorts of forwards on my hosting server but I like keeping things separate as they are all different businesses. I like to reply from the different emails as well. I also don't want to rely on my home email client and setting up an Exchange server seems complicated (to someone that didn't even know what push email was :wink: )
It does seem that the paid version at web2email will do the trick. It is only a couple bucks a month. I need to see if I can have multiple pop3 accounts though. I don't mind paying a few bucks each month for this service as it is quite important to me. It is the primary reason I got this phone.
I apologize for my ignorance regarding Pop3 email as all I use is corporate email. I setup an activesync partnership on a laptop that only has EarthLink email. I kind of expected to be able to configure the 8125 to send / receive EarthLink email from it's Outlook E-Mail but it seems that I need to create an separate Pop3 account for EarthLink on his PDA?? I'm sure I'm missing something extremely simple but my searches have been fruitless.
Feel free to blast me into oblivion ( after pointing me in the right direction of course!)
Fire when ready Gridley!
tia
Steven
Assuming you wish to get your pop3 email on your PDA whilst it is not connected to your laptop (GPRS or WiFi) you wll you need to create a new email profile on the PDA using your existing email settings. If you just want to syncronise your email between the laptop and PDA then just set up this relationship in Activestink. If you want to use your PDA as the medium over which your laptop will connect to your email account then you will need to configue your PDA as a modem.
Let me know if I am way off in uderstanding your problem...
So my understanding is that even though the client has one email account with EarthLink and he'd like to synchronize his contacts, calendar and email with his PC he has to create a new Pop3 account on his PDA that retrieves his email while he's on the golf course or wherever that is completely separate from his Outlook E-Mail? (and this guy wonders why I'm trying to push him into a corporate email account!)
Thanks for the help!
Steven
Yep. Thats how I do it. My POP3 account is duplicated on my PDA and laptop. I use the T-Mobile web push service to shove the emails to the PDA just like text messages. I can't see why a corperate email account would be any better or different. I also have my corperate email on my PDA and corperate laptop. Same process....
Thanks for your help regarding this but now I'm confused. With my corporate I have one and only one account on my PDA which synchronizes with my Exchange server. My question is ... can my client's EarthLink email be downloaded to his PDA's main Outlook E-mail which was configured when I created the AS partnership? Or does he have to have new emails delivered to his EarthLink profile and use his PDA's Outlook profile only to review old emails when his PDA is on the road? This makes absolutely no sense.
There is a major difference between this then and Exchange email.
Sorry to be so boneheaded but I really can't believe that this is supposed to work like this!
Steven
Goodness your starting to confuse me :? AFAIK the Outlook email profile on your PDA is purely there to act as a syncronised copy of the email client that you configure AS to work with. If you look in your PDA email options you do not get the opportunity to configure this profile. In effect this profile only gives the user the ability to store on his PDA those emails that already exist on the partner PC. In addition he will be able to edit these emails (Reply, delete, file and create new) whilst the PDA is disconnected from the PC. Upon the next AS syncronisation any ammendments or new emails created on the PDA will be sent using the PC communication path and any new emails receievd into the main PC (Exchange) account will be updated to the PDA. This functionality is desgined for all PDA's BUT remember most PDA's don't have the phone built in so this is exactly the functionality they need.
If you want your clients coperate email to be updated "live" to his PDA (Phone Edition) there are three ways to do it:
1 Configure a POP3 or IMAP4 account on his corperate network with suitable dial-up access - This will be dog slow as the PDA will have to use the GSM (NOT GPRS) network to access.
2 Configure his MS exchange server to handle the new "push" email service available with Exchange 2003 SP2. A relationship is set up between the PDA and the Exchange server and the connection is made over the internet which will allow his GPRS/EDGE connection to be utilised which will be miles quicker than GSM dial-up. This method allows emails to be "pushed" to the PDA in a similar way to text messages rather than the client having to make a connection every 30 mins or whatever. The PDA software will need to be WM5 AKU2.
3 Use a 3rd party relay system such as Goodlink from Good technologies. The PDA can be WM2K3 and does not require AKU2 functionality as a client app will be installed on the phone. This works by having a secure connection between his corperate network and the Good Technlogy service centre which will then link to the PDA in a very similar way to option 2.
Any other email accounts will have their own profile configured on the PDA.
I sure hope this is of some help to cause my fingers are sore typing this out on my Wizard :wink:
Thanks for the info but I'm quite aware of and have been utilizing the corporate methods of PDA email for a number of years. Unfortunately all my clients have Exchange servers so I haven't had to deal with Pop email in quite a number of years. This particular client is a friend that insists on living with his Earthlink email. I'm just so used to having my email synced without having to work so hard!
I appreciate your effort !
Steven Putnam
MCSE / CCNA
(not that letters mean anything)
chow
No probs Steven, the only thing I would add is POP3 accounts on a mobile device will normally fall foul of useable SMTP gateways. I'm not sure what earthlink use but if you run into difficulties trying to send emails you'll know where to look. An SMTP relay server that accomodates user validation is required when your "off the ISP network"
Hello,
I have an HTC Ozone. Purchased about 2 months ago. I have been unable to send email through a company mail server since I have got the phone. I can log on and download my messages with no problem. When attempting to send mail I connect to the server but my phone sends no authentication information and I get a message bounced back saying no relay access allowed. I have tried the microsoft fix but my phone would not install it. I am currently using the most current 3VO 6.5 rom, I have also tried the official rom. With all three roms I have been unable to send mail. I have also tried multiple email clients.
I have tried to send mail through our server over wifi with outlook mobile and profimail. Same resault error 504 relay acces denied. I know for a fact our server supports relay access with authentication, I have no problems sending mail with my laptop using my verizion air card.
As i noted earlier I have had this problem from day 1 with stock 6.1 rom, with the official 6.5 rom and with the 3VO rom.
Does anyone have any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
Brian B.
Ok more testing. Tried same account information with my wife's phone same resault. I was thinking verizon was blocking port 25, cause I have tried other outgoing servers. Our IT guy says logs show phone connecting but not sending the login information. This baffles me. As anyone with an ozone had these problems. I have searched all over everything I find says use an alternate smtp server but this doesn't work either. This phone is really making me angry.
Of course, you are using your phone operator SMTP ?
Do you have the same probleme with GMAIL and IMAP protocol ?
Jalom said:
Of course, you are using your phone operator SMTP ?
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What do you mean? I'm sure I have a T-Mob mail account, but I don't use it. I use my Internet provider's SMTP email. I cannot get my folders on my phone, "deletes" don't get sent from my phone, and every once in a while I cannot send email.
Not all pop server work well with pocket outlook. For instance, I cannot get my gmail mails synced correctly using the pop protocole, I need to activate IMAP (that may solve your sent mail issue).
As far as other accounts go, in order to be able to send mails, I need to use my mobile operator SMTP (and username / login), i.e smtp.orange.fr. (still keeping my e-mail provider's pop account, though).
Is you problem permanent (you never manage to send any e-mail) or odd (sometimes it will, sometimes it won't) ?
Jalom said:
Not all pop server work well with pocket outlook. For instance, I cannot get my gmail mails synced correctly using the pop protocole, I need to activate IMAP (that may solve your sent mail issue).
As far as other accounts go, in order to be able to send mails, I need to use my mobile operator SMTP (and username / login), i.e smtp.orange.fr. (still keeping my e-mail provider's pop account, though).
Is you problem permanent (you never manage to send any e-mail) or odd (sometimes it will, sometimes it won't) ?
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The sending problem is intermittent, but the folders issue and the deletes issue are permanent. Plus, if I read and/or delete an email from my phone and do not read it on my email server it gets re-sent to my phone as unread mail.
Btw, the incoming server is a POP server, the outgoing server is SMTP.
All right. Although I do not have a precise idea of what your problem is, I would suggest the following:
- Call you provider (T-mobile if I understood well) and ask them what is their smtp server address, and what is your login / password, and try to use this config to send mail.
- Try to switch one of you webmail from pop to imap and to sync your mails using the imap protocol.
Another solution would be transfering all you mails to a live mail account, as these of course are well integrated in WinMo.