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Check this out:
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4473.html
Same Universal performance but no swivel screen (better) and probaly a bit thinner.
Again, no VGA display.....
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Check this out:
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4473.html
Same Universal performance but no swivel screen (better) and probaly a bit thinner.
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There's no way this is going to replace my Universal. I wouldn't even consider anything without a VGA screen at this point. Besides... I like the swivel screen that affords a larger keyboard.
Brett
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I wouldn't even consider anything without a VGA screen at this point.
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Agree.
Hermes looks like the 3G replacement for the Wizard anyway.
Hoax photo - video cam spelled as 'vedio cam'
And it's a JAM style phone, not a 'true' XDA type phone.
No contest.
joebongo said:
Hoax photo - video cam spelled as 'vedio cam'
And it's a JAM style phone, not a 'true' XDA type phone.
No contest.
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For me, there is a contest. I'll miss the VGA screen, but I think I can cope. I went from a JAM to an Exec for 3G, now there's no reason for me not to go back to the smaller size, especially since I have an aquapac and a RAM Mount holder all at the right size for my bike and GPS...
What's the going rate for a second hand Exec?
I dont know if its the same pic or not (too lazxy to click the link, and correct my spelling apparently)
But heres the pic of the Hermes I came across a month ago in another article.
In any case this is just a spiffed up 3G version of the Wizard, I dont see it as a competitor for the Universal.
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In any case this is just a spiffed up 3G version of the Wizard
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For many, thnat's effectively what the Universal is.
(And a damned good one!)
What other good alternatives are coming?
I'd like a VGA but don't want to come back to the Universal as it's too big for me.
im not dealing with HTC anymore..the new one i bought crapped up on me 4days later. (white screen)
I think i will go Symbian OS :shock:
jlforlife said:
im not dealing with HTC anymore..the new one i bought crapped up on me 4days later. (white screen)
I think i will go Symbian OS :shock:
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All hardware has a percentage of faults. Don't let one faulty device make you change to a completly different OS, you fool.
You obviously wnted a HTC Windows OS device for some sort of good reason.
Why not simply get a different Mobile Windows device?
Is that too easy?
Yeah, you are right. The screen that died on me has made me moody and thats not right. Infact WM 5 devices are of the advantage if you want to use it corporately..
Yes, in a corporate usage it is a must; although I also enjoy playing great games, which I'm not quite sure to get the same quality in other systems... There are also a huge choice of all kind of softwares available...
I can't imagine going for another OS.
I am considering the Hermes as well but I am waiting on the replacement for the Uni to come out [if HTC has something planned] before I make my decision final. I'd probably miss VGA as well I tried using a qVGA device again [hp iPAQ rw6828] and always ended up going back to the Uni's gorgeous VGA screen. I've since sold the iPAQ. :wink:
As for Symbian OS I think it depends on which variant of the OS, for now I'd stay away from the N series [3rd Ed of Symbian Series 60] as most people I know who got these mobiles complain that they're really slow... maybe the hardware needs to be updated by Nokia to support their *new* OS.
Ehm, hello? Hermes is a mobile phone with PDA capabilites and the Universal is a PDA (rather even a UMPC) with phone capabilities. These two are different kind of devices, as both are what they are in first place, but can never be perfect for what they are supposed to be in second place! I always wanted a replacement for my Psion Revo, with a keyboard big enough to actually write. And I do write with 6-8 fingers on my Universal, where as on the Wizard I can write with 2-4 fingers max - that makes a difference. Plus I can put the Universal on the table and put the screen in such a position so I can do video calls without having to hold the device - impossible with Hermes! Don't get me wrong: Hermes is a wonderful device for those who want a mobile phone with A+ hard- and software. But it can never be a replacement for those who want a UMPC they really can work with...
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Ehm, hello? Hermes is a mobile phone with PDA capabilites and the Universal is a PDA (rather even a UMPC) with phone capabilities. These two are different kind of devices, as both are what they are in first place, but can never be perfect for what they are supposed to be in second place! I always wanted a replacement for my Psion Revo, with a keyboard big enough to actually write. And I do write with 6-8 fingers on my Universal, where as on the Wizard I can write with 2-4 fingers max - that makes a difference. Plus I can put the Universal on the table and put the screen in such a position so I can do video calls without having to hold the device - impossible with Hermes! Don't get me wrong: Hermes is a wonderful device for those who want a mobile phone with A+ hard- and software. But it can never be a replacement for those who want a UMPC they really can work with...
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Right said!
I have also got a lot of fresh air with the Uni, maybe the first time after leaving my Revo.
I'd say that both are PDAs with phone capabilities, and not a phone with PDA capabilities. However, the Uni is more focused on PDA (maybe 80% PDA 20 phone) and the Hermes is something like (60% pda 40 phone). HOwever, right now I'm after an Advance TC MAGIC. I'll miss my Exec's VGA though... if only we could upgrade screens to VGA at will... along with the appropriate OS tweaks, of course.
Is this the first release of it in the UK?
The Register reports on the Orange SPV M3100.
There's also HTC TyTN already out.
nope, not a universal upd8/upgrade/replacement as its not VGA.
yes, i do agree that WM PDA-phones r more PDA than phone as opposed 2 symbian devices w/c r more phone than PDA. d palm OS PDA-phones (treos) can b classified IMO as d more balanced PDA & phone. but im more of a PDA person than phone so i still prefer WM PDA-phones.
y doesnt HTC release another VGA PPC-phone? isnt d universal popular enough? :roll:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/05/24/htc-kaiser-unboxing/
At last something I would consider as a Uni replacement
Mav
MUTINY!!!!
mavrik64 said:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/05/24/htc-kaiser-unboxing/
At last something I would consider as a Uni replacement
Mav
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MUTINY!
The Universal is the undisputed windows mobile device champion of the world. It's only competitor goes by the name of I-Mate Ultimate 7150.
That's the Unis only competitor. So you can take that pathetic 2.8 inch screens to a different forum.
http://www.clubimate.com/ultimate/ult7150.htm
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MUTINY!
The Universal is the undisputed windows mobile device champion of the world. It's only competitor goes by the name of I-Mate Ultimate 7150.
That's the Unis only competitor. So you can take that pathetic 2.8 inch screens to a different forum.
http://www.clubimate.com/ultimate/ult7150.htm
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ooooooohhhhh!!!!!!
time for another change of underpants
Mav
No VGA
This would be truly awesome if only it had vga.
At the mo i have the universal with TOMTOM6 using a bluetooth receiver and i carry a 6mp camera with 3x optical zoom.
It's kinda a drag carrying 2/3 devices but I love the keyboard and screen of the uni
Another advantage of the uni is that the screen is protected by the lid when you have it closed which i like.
What will you say about E-TEN Glofiish X800, 'Double-Oh Seven'?
This is the only thing currently that probably could lure me away from the Universal...
Advantage is too heavy, others lack VGA or GPS...
The X800 does not have one thing you can think of, and that's Keyboard. Which I honestly to God do NOT need.
The lack of an SDHC interface on either device is enough for me to stick to my Universal.
My Universal hurts me when I look at other phones...
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My Universal hurts me when I look at other phones...
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Mine says I can look, but don't touch
Mav
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The lack of an SDHC interface on either device is enough for me to stick to my Universal.
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Have you got a Second Edition Universal (or a Mars Special? )?
Because as far as I know, mine does NOT have SDHC interface, just plain SD, limited to 4GB capacity cards (up to 2GB without problems, with 4GB Camera App has problems).
It even buggered my (non-SDHC) 4GB card recently (one of WM6 editions did so), so now it's only 2GB and I've currently run out of options to restore its 4GB capacity...
fnordelus said:
It's only competitor goes by the name of I-Mate Ultimate 7150.
http://www.clubimate.com/ultimate/ult7150.htm
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Oh my GOD that is a sweet looking device! I might worry a bit about the hinge though.
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Have you got a Second Edition Universal (or a Mars Special? )?
Because as far as I know, mine does NOT have SDHC interface, just plain SD, limited to 4GB capacity cards (up to 2GB without problems, with 4GB Camera App has problems).
It even buggered my (non-SDHC) 4GB card recently (one of WM6 editions did so), so now it's only 2GB and I've currently run out of options to restore its 4GB capacity...
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No ... I only have a 2GB SD card running as well on my Universal.
My point as to why the Kaiser is already redundant even before production is because the Kaiser is nothing more than a Universal+Navigator (or any other Bluetooth based GPS receiver).
The mini-SD interface on the Kaiser is the only key that made it redundant against the Universal.
Hence, the Kaiser is NOT an upgrade of the Universal, but instead a competitor. I would call it a "side-grade" as opposed to an "up-grade".
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No ... I only have a 2GB SD card running as well on my Universal.
My point as to why the Kaiser is already redundant even before production is because the Kaiser is nothing more than a Universal+Navigator (or any other Bluetooth based GPS receiver).
The mini-SD interface on the Kaiser is the only key that made it redundant against the Universal.
Hence, the Kaiser is NOT an upgrade of the Universal, but instead a competitor. I would call it a "side-grade" as opposed to an "up-grade".
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I re-read your first message. My bad, somehow thought you were saying that Universal does have SDHC Sorry!
Right, neither of Uni or Kaiser have it. But this honestly doesn't put me off too much, I don't do video on the devices.
One thing that Kaiser sorely misses: a VGA screen... Otherwise a near-perfect device... just 160 grams, GPS present, all latest connectivity present, v.good 2.8Mpix camera, unique design.
For those waiting for it, here I found that HTC have responded to somebody that they will release the Kaiser in late JULY, not October (October will be the time for HTC Shift).
So may be after all it's worth the wait for you and things are not so gloomy?
Kaiser's lack of VGA ruins the parade for me. This is why I'm looking towards a E-TEN Glofiish X800... also due in July.
In the whole flurry of devices coming each day - I'm yet to find a slick (Universal is the hefty 285 g...), well-connected, GPS-enabled device with a VGA screen...
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I re-read your first message. My bad, somehow thought you were saying that Universal does have SDHC Sorry!
Right, neither of Uni or Kaiser have it. But this honestly doesn't put me off too much, I don't do video on the devices.
One thing that Kaiser sorely misses: a VGA screen... Otherwise a near-perfect device... just 160 grams, GPS present, all latest connectivity present, v.good 2.8Mpix camera, unique design.
For those waiting for it, here I found that HTC have responded to somebody that they will release the Kaiser in late JULY, not October (October will be the time for HTC Shift).
So may be after all it's worth the wait for you and things are not so gloomy?
Kaiser's lack of VGA ruins the parade for me. This is why I'm looking towards a E-TEN Glofiish X800... also due in July.
In the whole flurry of devices coming each day - I'm yet to find a slick (Universal is the hefty 285 g...), well-connected, GPS-enabled device with a VGA screen...
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Wow ... that's quite a bit of "VGA" in one post.
Maybe you can try and explain to me why a VGA (640x480) resolution on a 3.6 inch screen device is actually practical.
I have used OzVGA on my Universal and then removed it just after 1 week because the high resolution demanded a higher precision touch-screen input from the stylus. You can forget about using your finger with OzVGA on VGA mode as opposed to the standard QVGA mode. I mean, in VGA mode I "lost" the ability to control scroll-bars, as well as cell/row selections from a table form or even when you want to do "hold down" selection (this is equivalent to the right-click in desktops) - using my finger ofcourse. Things were OK with the stylus.
With such a serious loss, the benefit of VGA is not actually worthy on the Universal because of its screen size.
If you are talking about the HTC Advantage, then VGA is really worthy because we are talking about a 5 inch screen here - and so the loss which the Universal suffers from is not applicable to the Advantage.
I agree, the only thing missing now is the VGA screen.
I am confused, is this device able to flip into laptop mode? From the other pictures, it seemed the keyboard pulls out from behind the screen, but then there is another picture showing the screen folded up on the keyboard.
Do you like the price?
http://www.popularelect.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=29&products_id=437
Mike
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-itttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt! Ridiculous!
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Do you like the price?
http://www.popularelect.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=29&products_id=437
Mike
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Amazing ..... that's just the kind of cash I can pull out of my asshole!
the price is gonna fall down in a few weeks.
That price is for a VERY NICE laptop. wheeeew!
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Amazing ..... that's just the kind of cash I can pull out of my asshole!
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If it's that easy, can I have some <grin>
They must have the decimal point in the wrong place.
Mav
I'm a Universal user more than anything but I wanted a Wizard because of the more pocket size. I guess I should have done my research a bit more before buying one. I can't use Vijay's Full Sceen terminal services which is a bummer - I use this a LOT. It installs and appears to work but full screen doesn't happen. I'm guessing it's because the Uni has a much bigger screen. It's quite a slow machine too eh?
I think this one might be going back on sale and I'll spend a bit more on a Kaiser.
How are they with WM6?
Is it worth me shelling out on TomTom for it?
It's quite a slow machine too eh?
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yes, it is quite SLOw machine, eh.
buy kaiser - then write same quote again, cheez.
let's laugh at omap/quallcomm cpu's, alltogether.
you cannot find HTC solution, if you know xscale power already.
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you cannot find HTC solution
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Universal's 520 clock is powerful enough - and it's lots faster than the Wizard. Decent screen, full screen remote desktop, decent processor. I don't want some pocket sized laptop, just a PDA with some balls. Universal is that, Wizard somewhat less. That was my point, I wasn't bashing HTC OR their Wizard.
You might try looking a bit further than the kaiser, i had one and wasn't impressed by it. the speed wasn't much faster than the wizard and the video lag made it worthless. i came back to my wizard and i'm happy again.
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Universal's 520 clock is powerful enough - and it's lots faster than the Wizard. Decent screen, full screen remote desktop, decent processor. I don't want some pocket sized laptop, just a PDA with some balls. Universal is that, Wizard somewhat less. That was my point, I wasn't bashing HTC OR their Wizard.
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i know what you are saying, trust me.
agree.
Mr. Zach said:
You might try looking a bit further than the kaiser, i had one and wasn't impressed by it. the speed wasn't much faster than the wizard and the video lag made it worthless. i came back to my wizard and i'm happy again.
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Cheers.
Guess I'll just stick with the Uni then and op this one back on sale.
My XDA Exec is a couple of years old now and I'm wondering what to replace it with when I need to.
The criteria are:
Minimum 3.5 inch screen
Windows Mobile O/S
Excel, Word and Outlook
A qwerty keyboard, but can be an on-screen one
Quad band phone
Bluetooth
I have done some research and the PDA phones seem to have smaller screens these days apart from the HTC Advantage. What others should I take a look at?
check the Touch HD (blackstone) or wait for the Touch HD Pro (if you want the slide keyboard). It's new, it has a big screen (3.8 WVGA) and it's still a lot smaller than the Uni.
andyfr said:
My XDA Exec is a couple of years old now and I'm wondering what to replace it with when I need to.
The criteria are:
Minimum 3.5 inch screen
Windows Mobile O/S
Excel, Word and Outlook
A qwerty keyboard, but can be an on-screen one
Quad band phone
Bluetooth
I have done some research and the PDA phones seem to have smaller screens these days apart from the HTC Advantage. What others should I take a look at?
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Welcome to the forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=492783
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3459307
Do a search before making a new thread with the same topic
We all Uni users are waiting to get a REAL replacement of our beloved Uni!
I did do a search but didn't find what I was looking for, possibly didn't use the right search criteria.
The Touch HD Pro looks like a contender. I will have to consider that one.
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I did do a search but didn't find what I was looking for, possibly didn't use the right search criteria.
The Touch HD Pro looks like a contender. I will have to consider that one.
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If you are comming from Universal maybe HD is not the best option
As you may know NOT ANY virtual keyboard can be compared with the confortably and speed of a physical one.
Have you saw Touch pro 2? so far is the closest to a "succesor" for our beloved Uni´s
Now that looks very nice!
you should take a look at the xperia x1. it's my chosen successor, but i haven't got is yet.
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you should take a look at the xperia x1. it's my chosen successor, but i haven't got is yet.
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It's only got a 3 inch screen though.
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It's only got a 3 inch screen though.
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Yeah, agree, upgrading from Uni it must have at least the same or more! (3.5" - 3.8")
And also design is not so nice...
Just my opinion
andyfr said:
My XDA Exec is a couple of years old now and I'm wondering what to replace it with when I need to.
The criteria are:
Minimum 3.5 inch screen
Windows Mobile O/S
Excel, Word and Outlook
A qwerty keyboard, but can be an on-screen one
Quad band phone
Bluetooth
I have done some research and the PDA phones seem to have smaller screens these days apart from the HTC Advantage. What others should I take a look at?
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If I where you I would keep the UNI!
I have had almost all HTC devices that exists, and I can honestly say that the UNI is the best!
Dont even consider the new devices with the qualcom chipset, if you read around this forum you will learn that they have many problems! (Missing drivers, under performing, etc etc...)
The only other device I can recommend is the Samsung Omnia!
But that device only has a on screen keyboard!
Just my 2 cents!
Hi folks!
My X1 recently stopped working and I had to sent it back to amazon. Instead of repairing or replacing it they gave me just the money.
Now I'm not sure wether to buy a new X1 or another almost newer phone. I'm thinking of the HTC Touch Diamond 2. The main reasons for this thoughts are:
+ smaller form-factor considering the thickness
+ leight weight (117g instead 147g)
+ built-in touchflo (no need to flash)
+ announced winmo 6.5 upgrade
Drawbacks may be the missing hardwarekeyboard and flashlight and no panel support?!?!
Any comments or suggestions what to do?
greetinx,
gordonshamway
Hi, why not a touch pro 2? its an upgraded x1 pretty much ok its not for sale yet tho..
Keyboard or not?
I'm not quite sure wether I need the hardware keyboard or not. I did not use it very often with the x1. FingerKeyboard just replaces the hardware keyboard. Together with the smaller form factor I think the diamond 2 will be the right choice for me
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I'm not quite sure wether I need the hardware keyboard or not. I did not use it very often with the x1. FingerKeyboard just replaces the hardware keyboard. Together with the smaller form factor I think the diamond 2 will be the right choice for me
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If you're not writing many emails, then go, get the diamond II. For SMS, the finger keyboard is doing good enough.
I was also thinking of changing the phones but I am writing mails quite often, so I'll stick with the x1 for a while
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I'm not quite sure wether I need the hardware keyboard or not. I did not use it very often with the x1. FingerKeyboard just replaces the hardware keyboard. Together with the smaller form factor I think the diamond 2 will be the right choice for me
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hi Alf.
I believe that You've answered Your question. I personally, cannot live without hardware keyboard. As x1 is my main pc of choice, so whether I am posting on forums, writing email or texting it is more convinient for me to have one. and form factor as I stated in other post is an epic win of xperia over, for example, touch pro 2. x1 doesn't look like a bar of soap in Your hand, so tbh I'd rather go for d2 if You don't need hard keys or ... give xperia another go.
I replaced my Diamond with the X1 because I didn't get on with the fingerkeyboard, it was too small for my fingers. I ended up using the stylus all the time. I'd stick with the X1 if I were you.
actually the touch pro 2 is already for sale, but the price tag is nearly $1000.00 USD
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actually the touch pro 2 is already for sale, but the price tag is nearly $1000.00 USD
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more like $650-$700
really? where? i seen a few for sale between 900 - 980
spikegotti said:
really? where? i seen a few for sale between 900 - 980
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http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct....D-03FE-49D1-8412-C266A9D3D48B&Category=GROUP1 $700