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I purchased the Holux GPSlim 236 and now looking for a software for it. I was looking around and like the iGuidance v3.0. Does anyone know if those two pair will work on the Cingular 8125? Thanks.

iGuidance 3
I have seen people that were using iG3 on their wizards and said it worked great. Your BT GPS module should work fine as well. I personally think that iG3 is the best option for the Wizard family since it uses the least amount of system resources of most any software option and has the easiest to use setup for maps.

You are probably going to want to use OMAPClock to overclock the CPU to use IGuidance. It works fairly well without being overclocked but can take 30 seconds to a minute to reroute if you miss a turn. It's definately a lot slower to update your position than when I have it paired with my laptop. I want to test this out again with the CPU overcloced to see what gains I will see, but I seem to have misplaced my Bluetooth GPS receiver...haha

I also have the Holux GPSlim 236 and I use it with Tomtom, it takes a while to start, but once loaded it works perfectly without overclocking and reroutes in no time at all

I just got my Iguidance 3 and Holux bundle in the mail yesterday.
Hehehe...all day at work i was anxiously waiting for quittin time while watching the Holux charge up...also installing IG3 on my MDA.
When i got home, spent 5-10 mins installing the mount, then off i was...so far works great...

pat12 said:
I also have the Holux GPSlim 236 and I use it with Tomtom, it takes a while to start, but once loaded it works perfectly without overclocking and reroutes in no time at all
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I looked at both, and I think the only reason that iguidance would take longer to reroute, is that the maps are more detailed? This is a guess, because I looked at my usa state's map, and on tomtom its 30 megs, but on iguidance, its 66 megs.
Just a possibility.
I have heard however, the maps for iguidance are much better in the usa than tomtom's usa maps.

Hi, i also plan on getting a GPS, and i need a full crash course.
can someone help me out?
cons and pros cheapest and the best GPS thing and the programs.
also screen shots of how they look would be nice.
i don't drive often since i live in NYC, but i could find a GPS handy, and i could go Geo cache in central park.
thnks!

IG3 Screenshots
I don't have my gps unit hooked up but this gives you the basic idea of IG3. It's a great program and runs much faster on a laptop or my Dell Axim. This is noticably slower but works well since I always have this with me. To store Oregon and Washington maps on my storage card takes up about 125Mb of storage on my 2Gb mini sd card. There's still lots of room for programs, email attachments and music.
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I use iGuidance 2.1.3 or so with my HTC wizard and a Holux GPSlim236 and it works AMAZING! When it needs to recalculate, it takes all of a few seconds! I'll get IG3 at some point i'm sure, but for now 2.1.3 works fine for me...the maps don't seem old.

cool, thanks!
so what do i need? to get started?
do i need a service plan or something?
can i load geo cache stuff with it?
and what did u mean by "This is noticably slower"
thanks!
ps, does anyone live in the city, i wonder how the city maps look like. is it detailed? thanks!

Hey Ray_jai - in the same boat - mine's en route!
I'm not only new to the GPS usage, but only just ordered the MDA itself - and it's my first cell&net driven PDA! I have the GPS unit coming also and will be (trying) to set it up quickly....
....and it's my first GPS as well!

I've been using IG3 now for just about a week. And it being my first GPS i think its great.
I live in the city, and general just use the map function to see where i am, (not for directions cuz i generally know where i am). However i've tested it out in the twisty curvy roads of the suburbs just outside Boston, MA, and i'll tell u it works like a charm. I even tested out how fast it re-calculates when i purposely ignored a turn, it literally took 5 seconds to give me a new route to get me back in the correct direction.
I've also found new faster routes and shortcuts to get to friends' places that i've been going to for years.
Just to answer a few questions...
Things needed:
You need a pocketpc...in the case of this sub-forum a Wizard.
GPS Software, (IGuidance, TomTom, ur choice) I chose IG3
GPS Receiver (i chose the Holux GPSlim)
A miniSD card to store ur map info...depending on ur state or states...these could take a few megs. I have the whole north and central east coast loaded, and it takes up about 300 mbs.
A car :shock: (not necesary, u could keep the receiver in ur pocket and walk around)
And some reading on these forums to make sure u have ur Wizard setup and ready for the software install. (i.e. My stock Tmobile rom had hidden the additional GPS settings on the MDA, had to perform a registry tweak to unhide it).
There is no subscription or anything needed.
only thing u need to shell out is the money to buy the software and the receiver. And perhaps ur electricty bill when u charge these devices up.
For those considering...check out buygpsnow.com or semsons.com for a great price on their bundles.

thanks!!!

the screen shots on the site is different from urs...
are those just stock photos? thanks
does the GPS itself need a memory stick?
and is there a smaller gps unit? thanks!
and which site do u guys trust more?

can anyone provide links and/or upload any of the programs needed for GPS to work. im really interesting in this.

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can anyone provide links and/or upload any of the programs needed for GPS to work. im really interesting in this.
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you have to buy a GPS receiver and you have to buy GPS map software...like iGuidance or TomTom

On a similar note, is there anyway to stop the screen turning off when im using my gps software like memorymap? I dont mind the light going off but id like the screen to stay on. Ive got a feeling that when the screen turns off the gps stops tracking within memory map and then guesses where the route went when turned back on.

gooshy said:
On a similar note, is there anyway to stop the screen turning off when im using my gps software like memorymap? I dont mind the light going off but id like the screen to stay on. Ive got a feeling that when the screen turns off the gps stops tracking within memory map and then guesses where the route went when turned back on.
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i'm pretty sure it continues to work. I tested it the other day driving through the canyon from PCH to my house. I didn't touch it the whole 11 mile stretch. The screen was off for at least 20 minutes and when I exited the canyon, i told me where to go. 8)

Is there a demo or something for iG3? I have TomTom and I really don't like the directions it gives me. I hope the engines aren't the same.

I've been thinking about getting GPS for a while now. I'm just hesitant to dump $170 for a receiver and software.

FM Radio for Hermes/TyTN?

With such complexities of being a world phone and pocket pc and all... there's no way to use these as a standard FM radio? Are there hacks available for this or is it impossible given the Hermes/TyTN hardware?

I'd guess it would need some tuner hardware.

I know its not what you want, but Resco Radio has a bunch of internet stations to listen too. Maybe you could look if the stations you are interested in have live streaming and use that link in Resco Radio? Not exactly sure but it may work...

SD5150 said:
I know its not what you want, but Resco Radio has a bunch of internet stations to listen too. Maybe you could look if the stations you are interested in have live streaming and use that link in Resco Radio? Not exactly sure but it may work...
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I have Resco Radio. But that streams via the internet. I guess our devices can't pickup FM airwaves? Which seems kind of odd I think.

ThaiM said:
I have Resco Radio. But that streams via the internet. I guess our devices can't pickup FM airwaves? Which seems kind of odd I think.
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Really? I have a laptop and it can't pick up radio. Thought that was quite normal for a device which doesn't have an FM receiver built in....

I've done a little search and I found this:
http://www.seeo2.com/product/XdaAtom/template/XdaAtomApplications.vm/n/exclusive
Since O2 can have "exclusive applications" for a pocketpc-phone like the XDA atom (which does NOT have an FM tuner hardware inside), does anybody know how we can "get hold" of something like this for our Hermes?

chrisvor said:
I've done a little search and I found this:
http://www.seeo2.com/product/XdaAtom/template/XdaAtomApplications.vm/n/exclusive
Since O2 can have "exclusive applications" for a pocketpc-phone like the XDA atom (which does NOT have an FM tuner hardware inside), does anybody know how we can "get hold" of something like this for our Hermes?
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Our built-in radio must be able to pick up FM radio frequencies... I think it's just a hack that we need to find.

The Hermes does not have an FM receiver. Do a search and you'll find many people have asked the same question and gotten the same answer. Sorry to disappoint you.
Here's a recent topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1278481#post1278481

ThaiM said:
Our built-in radio must be able to pick up FM radio frequencies... I think it's just a hack that we need to find.
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Sorry to rain on your parade but the documentation I've been able to find about the Atom says that it does contain FM radio hardware.
It _has_ to. It wouldn't work otherwise. Don't get me wrong, I wish I could turn my hermes into a HTC Kaiser with added FM Radio just by installing some bit of software and holding down certain keys while resetting it but the real world doesn't work that way. There's a reason why 'transformers' is fiction and not fact and there's a reason why you can't actually send your children to Hogwarts to learn how to be magicians.

bartzilla said:
Sorry to rain on your parade but the documentation I've been able to find about the Atom says that it does contain FM radio hardware.
It _has_ to. It wouldn't work otherwise. Don't get me wrong, I wish I could turn my hermes into a HTC Kaiser with added FM Radio just by installing some bit of software and holding down certain keys while resetting it but the real world doesn't work that way. There's a reason why 'transformers' is fiction and not fact and there's a reason why you can't actually send your children to Hogwarts to learn how to be magicians.
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i dunno about that a transformer blew up in NY yesterday LMAO

I stand corrected about the XDA atom specs.... The page I initially saw with the atom's specs, didnt mention it... I then found another one saying it has FM Radio capabilities... Oh well.....

I don't know much about radios and frequencies (clearly). I just figured that if the phone is able to pick up these GSM/Edge/UTMS... etc.. frequencies/spectrums then perhaps there's an off chance it could pick up an FM frequency which I'd imagine is pretty standard. Ah well.

The TyTn can pick up close range radio signals for example when you use bluetooth. However it has no tuner to select broadcast radio frequencies. In addition it has no aerial suitable for effectively picking up radio stations. Many phones that have FM radio built in, only work when you plug in the headphones. This is because the headphone cable acts as the aerial. The TyTn does not have it's circuitry set up to use the headphone cable as an aerial.
So even if you could somehow use software to tune signals using the bluetooth aerial, this aerial is not nearly big enough to pick up FM radio stations. So, no suitable software and inadequate hardware to make it work. Streaming radio is the only option.
Mike

HTC Sedna and Tomtom

Hi,
Have someone any idea about using Tomtom with the Sedna integrated GPS ?
Thanks.

My p6500 from orange works fine with tomtom 6 using the internal gps. Also I-go 8 works fine too.

I got TomTom 5.21 working with no problem.

Same here Tomtom v6 works a treat

I have Tomtom 6, and I can't see how to connect to the built-in gps receiver, how do I do this?
I've tried:
Change preferences > Show GPS Status > configure and the available options are:
TomTom Bluetooth GPS receiver
TomTom wired GPs receiver
Other Bluetooth GPS receiver
Other NMEA GPS receiver
But none of these work. Currently, 'Other Bluetooth GPS receiver' works with my external one, but if I could use the built-in one it would be much nicer. One less thing sliding around on the dashboard!
On the subject of GPS, what's that quickGPS all about? The manual says very little about it.

xmastree, use Other NMEA GPS receiver, then pick the correct one, on my Orange M700 it is GPS in COM9, I think the Sedna is different, my trial unit went back months ago. You check the correct one with Start, Settings, System, GPS to find what the hardware is using.
I liked quickGPS. Normally a GPS chip only knows about the local satellites where the chip is manufactured, in this case Taiwan, and does not know where to look in the sky for sats good for the UK the first time you use it. It can take up to 2 hours before you get lock. quickGPS goes to an Internet site over 3G and populates the chip with sat co-ords. My trial Sedna picked up in 2 minutes after using it.

woodvale said:
You check the correct one with Start, Settings, System, GPS to find what the hardware is using.
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Woo Hoo!
That did the trick. I also checked 'Manage GPS automatically' under 'Access'
Strangely, the settings are under Start, Settings, System, External GPS which seems odd.
quickGPS goes to an Internet site over 3G and populates the chip with sat co-ords. My trial Sedna picked up in 2 minutes after using it.
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Nice, although I wonder why it seems to want to refresh every seven days...
Thanks for the help.

xmastree said:
Woo Hoo!
That did the trick. I also checked 'Manage GPS automatically' under 'Access'
Strangely, the settings are under Start, Settings, System, External GPS which seems odd.
Nice, although I wonder why it seems to want to refresh every seven days...
Thanks for the help.
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You're welcome. I was quoting my Orange M700 settings on WM5 AKU3, the Sedna was WM6 and I trialled it about 4 months ago, don't expect me to remember the detail.
Did not spot the 7 day quickGPS refresh on mine, but I would not think this would be a lot of traffic, they're aren't many GPS satellites!

Having used the built-in receiver for a while now, I'm still not too happy with it.
Most of the time it's fine, but other times it just loses the signal and you get this effect:
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I was stationary at the time.
Comparing the built-in one and my external bluetooth receiver:
No contest really, is it?
And here I am, supersonic, somewhere over the North sea. I was actually in Kirkham, Lancashire.

xmastree said:
Having used the built-in receiver for a while now, I'm still not too happy with it.
Most of the time it's fine, but other times it just loses the signal and you get this effect:
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I've been using an Orange M700 (HTC 3600 [Trinity]) WM5 AKU3 for almost a year now with the same GPS chip as in the Sedna (HTC P6500) with no ill effects. Only downside is it is a bit slow to lock, sometimes 60 seconds, but once locked is fine. Initially it was in a screen sucker cradle but my cig socket for the power is mounted in a centre console level with the back of the drivers seat so the coiled cable was constantly springing out so I switched to putting the unit in the drinks holder way BELOW and underneath the dashboard in my personal car where you would not expect good signal but it is not a problem in all driving conditions.
We recently bought 35 Sednas and I have 3 deployed now in a live pilot not using cradles and only one suffers. His company car has a metallised screen (to cut UV radiation, a Picasso) which also stops the GPS signal. There is a small area of the screen not screened just behind the rearview mirror where we have the existing external GPS receiver that was used to supply his previous PDA cradle that did not have GPS. We will be re-fitting this to a new cradle due to be fitted in the next few days. The other 2 units have no problems, but are different cars.
I took my base build sedna on the road over the weekend in my own car without UV screening and it was as good as the M700. I even put it on the passenger seat and on the floor, still good as gold.
So I think it is your car that is the problem, you'll have to use an external GPS antenna, unless ............. My previous trial P6500 was WM6.0 but that also worked fine in my same car as now, the new ones are WM6.1, but I doubt it.
Regards QuickGPS 7 day refresh, now I have the P6500 back, it is a waste of time, you only need to sync once in the UK after a hard reset. QuickGPS was not available on the M700 so I couldn't comment before. I synced my base build P6500 2 months ago once, used it in the image to be burned on the 35 new ones and they've all picked up fine in practice.

Well the car is a Peugeot 307, and the PDA is mounted just to the right of the instrument panel. The bluetooth receiver usually lives in the centre of the dash, but sometimes if it's charging it's right next to the PDA and gets a much better signal.
If I'm going to use an external antenna, I may as well use the bluetooth receiver instead.

xmastree said:
Well the car is a Peugeot 307, and the PDA is mounted just to the right of the instrument panel. The bluetooth receiver usually lives in the centre of the dash, but sometimes if it's charging it's right next to the PDA and gets a much better signal.
If I'm going to use an external antenna, I may as well use the bluetooth receiver instead.
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Ask your Peugeot dealer about the screen (and side windows). I take it you are UK given your screenshots, so I guess to the right of the dashboard panel is below the dashboard top and near to the door pillar between screen and driver's door. I would not expect a GPS receiver to lock in these conditions, or at least be very slow and freeze, how the hell is it going to lock onto 5 simultaneous satellites with no line of sight in a car, especially if all the windows have UV screening?
NB Bluetooth GPS is an external antenna as well, it just uses BT instead of a real cable.

woodvale said:
I take it you are UK given your screenshots, so I guess to the right of the dashboard panel is below the dashboard top and near to the door pillar between screen and driver's door.
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It's not below the dash, it's on top, in clear view from above.
FWIW, during a rather 'spirited' launch this morning, the bluetooth receiver ended up in the passenger footwell and still got a better signal.
NB Bluetooth GPS is an external antenna as well, it just uses BT instead of a real cable.
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Not sure about that. The bluetooth receiver has the GPS chip in it whereas an external antenna plugged into the PDA will just pick up the satellite signals and feed them to the PDA's gps chip.

Sygic
Took tomtom off my Sedna and installed the latest Sygic v824.
Could not make iGo8 to work.

Took tomtom of my Sedna and installed Sygic latest v824.
Tried to install iGO8 but the phone keeps getting stuck.

GPS not working

I have tried to search but got no results with term GPS so I`m starting new thread.
My gps is not working. I tried different radios, roms and still nothing.
HTC gps tool cannot get fix. GPS Test finds COM4 port but it shows only 'GPS Starting up'. Igo8 shows 'waiting for signal'.
Can be gps faulty? Everything else on the phone works perfectly.
I have disabled A-gps, I have actual data trough quick gps and still nothing.
Thanks for any advice.

pete777 said:
I have tried to search but got no results with term GPS so I`m starting new thread.
My gps is not working. I tried different radios, roms and still nothing.
HTC gps tool cannot get fix. GPS Test finds COM4 port but it shows only 'GPS Starting up'. Igo8 shows 'waiting for signal'.
Can be gps faulty? Everything else on the phone works perfectly.
I have disabled A-gps, I have actual data trough quick gps and still nothing.
Thanks for any advice.
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Have you downloaded latest satellite information using app QuickGPS?

yes I have

any other advice?please

My 2 cents
I don't know if this will be of any help to you, but can you confirm that someone else's phone can actually get a GPS lock in your area.
I had a weird experience last summer, my ATT Fuze at the time, was getting a lock here in Florida within 5-6 seconds. Then I went on a trip by car to Canada, and when I was somewhere in North Carolina, I could not get GPS lock at all. It was high up in the mountains with clear sky above me but no lock ever. Couple of driving hours later it was working perfectly, the same in Toronto area. On my way back, in the same area, it could not get a lock at all again. It worked perfectly anywhere else afterward.
Not sure how to explain it. Is it possible that the GPS signal in that area was so weak?

i tried my friends HD and he catched signal from the same place in few seconds, so it really looks like my device is faulty. Is there any way to test gps receiver?

you can check your if bluetooth and wifi signal work properly. if you can't find bt or wifi signal. Maybe you gps/wifi/bt antenna unfastened. My HD came with the same problem last year. I opened my HD and reconnected the two anternna and everything went ok.

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you can check your if bluetooth and wifi signal work properly. if you can't find bt or wifi signal. Maybe you gps/wifi/bt antenna unfastened. My HD came with the same problem last year. I opened my HD and reconnected the two anternna and everything went ok.
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i have the same problem...
hove do you reconnect the two antenna ?
regards
Phil

philippe_wurtz said:
i have the same problem...
hove do you reconnect the two antenna ?
regards
Phil
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see the pic below. the connector is on the other side of the tf slot
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my wifi and bluetooth is working correctly. Does these two share the same antenna with gps or gps is another one?

pete777 said:
my wifi and bluetooth is working correctly. Does these two share the same antenna with gps or gps is another one?
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i read your post carefully and find that you can get gps fix. so it is no problem with anternna.
if you want to test your gps hardware, you can use an app called "htc gps tool". your problem may caused by software or settings. try do hard reset or flash a new rom

I already flashed multiple roms, tried different radios..nothing..
I`m using htc gps tool but I dont know how to check if there is gps hardware problem. I just dont get fix.

do you live near to military area?

pete777 said:
my wifi and bluetooth is working correctly. Does these two share the same antenna with gps or gps is another one?
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Pete, just check both of those 2 black cables to make sure they are snapped down. One is GPS (by volume bottons) the other is BT and WIFI. If, you can't keep them snapped down after re-assmbly, then put a dab of Gorilla Glue, let dry 4hrs and re-assemble - that will hold for ever.

pete777 said:
my wifi and bluetooth is working correctly. Does these two share the same antenna with gps or gps is another one?
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Pete, just check both of those 2 black cables to make sure they are snapped down. One is GPS (by volume bottons) the other is BT and WIFI. If, you can't keep them snapped down after re-assmbly, then put a dab of Gorilla Glue, let dry 4hrs and re-assemble - that will hold for ever.

so there is a possibility that my gps cable is disconnected?

pete777 said:
so there is a possibility that my gps cable is disconnected?
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Yes, maybe from a drop that popped the cable loose. If, you're not affraid to void warranty (or it's out of warranty), then as last resort - I would open the device and carefully check the cables. Remember, I would first reflash back to a ROM that I knew the GPS was working on before digging in. There are posts in the HD forum that have disassembly/assembly videos of how to repair the HD.

I opened my HD and it was loose gps cable. Just connected it back and its working perfectly. Thanks for all advices.

So the DI has a BCM4329 (FM transmitter and 5Ghz N?)

I was doing some research on the BCM4329 chip that our Droid Incredibles have. It looks like this chip supports 802.11 a/b/g/n on both the 2.5Ghz and 5Ghz bands and comes with both an FM receiver and transmitter.
I know we already have some nice guides that can enable the wireless N, but do they have the ability to use the 5Ghz frequency yet?
We already have the ability to use the FM receiver/tuner, but can we enable/use the FM transmitter? I for one always use my DI in my car to stream music, and a built in FM transmitter would be great!
Here is the specsheet for the BCM4329: http://pdf.eccn.com/pdfs/Datasheets/Broadcom/BCM4329.pdf
and more info: http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4329
and some more: http://www.intomobile.com/2008/12/0...9-to-bring-80211n-wifi-to-mobile-devices.html

mrlanrat said:
I was doing some research on the BCM4329 chip that our Droid Incredibles have. It looks like this chip supports 802.11 a/b/g/n on both the 2.5Ghz and 5Ghz bands and comes with both an FM receiver and transmitter.
I know we already have some nice guides that can enable the wireless N, but do they have the ability to use the 5Ghz frequency yet?
We already have the ability to use the FM receiver/tuner, but can we enable/use the FM transmitter? I for one always use my DI in my car to stream music, and a built in FM transmitter would be great!
Here is the specsheet for the BCM4329: http://pdf.eccn.com/pdfs/Datasheets/Broadcom/BCM4329.pdf
and more info: http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4329
and some more: http://www.intomobile.com/2008/12/0...9-to-bring-80211n-wifi-to-mobile-devices.html
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I don't really care about the frequencies (though it'd still be nice) but the FM Transmitter would be MONEY! Unfortunately, as far as I can remember All Droid members were working on it before it went down the $h!tter, and they were saying that w/o any built in Android support, or love from the manufacturers it will be a daunting task, since there are not even any drivers for that, that we know of that have been developed.

FM TX will really depend on the hardware. What we need is a true datasheet, not a product overview. If the chip is a true FM-to-antenna solution then that might make things a lot easier, but if the device needs external filtering/matching and other RF circuitry, then a viable solution will really depend on the layout of the incredible hardware and if there was any foresight into having FM TX as an option to begin with.
Unfortunately I think HTC probably did not include any external circuitry for this feature since it adds BOM cost for them, but again if the chip just needs an antenna then maybe it will work like the FM receiver which uses the headphone jack as an antenna.
Like I said, a real datasheet with hardware/register overview is what we need.

datasheet link
http://www.datasheetdir.com/BCM4329+download
-sorry, that's just the product brief.

no problem...I tried looking for this when the specs for the DI were first released and it was rumored to have the BCM chip, but didn't have much luck. Sometimes you get luck with google and find a Russian or Chinese site with the leaked datasheet...no such luck so far though.

I found this:
http://www.broadcom.com/collateral/wp/4325-WP100-R.pdf
But I don't think it is what we need.

I hate to noob it for you gentlemen, but what is a datasheet; or better yet, what does it look like? (So i know what to look for) Is there any specific info/section you need in said datasheet? Just need enough to locate what you need, not any real understanding of chips and/or software.
Thank you all.
dL

i posted this over here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7073406#post7073406
I think we should somehow merge these two threads as they both are trying to achieve the same thing.
so some are going off on the depend and saying the fm means freq mod .
NOPES
Broadcom clearly states its a "FM radio receiver and transmitter."
SO YES IT DOES HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO TRANSMIT AUDIO OVER FM
where i got this from .
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4329
as we know software wise the evo has no fm Transmiter software installed and like we know Wifi N was in it and turned off till now.
so sometime soon we hope someone will come out with an APK to use the fm transmiter. (to stream our media to fm radios for car or house use.).
actully if you look at there app guide they have a unit without the FM TX.
BCM4325 Low-Power 802.11a/b/g with Bluetooth® 2.1 + EDR and FM
BCM4329 Low-Power 802.11n with Bluetooth® 2.1 + EDR and FM (Tx and Rx)
from pdf
FM Control: HCI and BSC (I2C-compliant) ports
FM Audio: Stereo analog input and output, bidirectional
FM receiver and transmitter (76 MHz to 108 MHz FM bands);
Standards supported:
- European Radio Data Systems (RDS)
- North American Radio Broadcast Data System (RBDS)
• Programmable FM transmit output power
TECH SPECS FROM PDF
FM
Host Interface: High-speed UART, I2C for control
Standard: RDS (Europe) RBDS (North America)
Operating Frequency: 76 – 108 MHz
Search Frequency Step: 50 KHz
Transmit Output Power: 117 dbuV
Receive Sensitivity: –107 dBm
look on the right you will see fm
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pdf can be found here
http://pdf.eccn.com/pdfs/Datasheets/Broadcom/BCM4329.pdf

Has someone access to the engineering documents from Broadcomm? We just have to make a short look on the reference design and check, whether the TX part needs some external circurity. If so, we need to check whether the phone has this implemented. If not, then even a working driver would not help to activate this feature.
So my point is: has someone access to the documentation of the BCM4329???
PM me everyrtime =)!
Cheers!

Bad News! Phone needs additional components to make the Tx part work!

Too bad. Would have been nice.

I know the msg from Qualcomm said 'additional components', but the headset cable is the addition to make the RX work.. wonder what else would be necessary for the TX function.. One of my old lg phones had FM TX on it, best feature of the phone. I love hardware modding, wonder what else would be needed?

all that tells me is extra components are required on the board to rx or tx. but they dont say if they are the same or different.
From what i can tell with my Tech Background and what i do know about the chip from the public data sheets aswell as what i posted on the other thread.
I think all we need is the software to pump the audio to the fm part of the chip its uart so its bidirectional for all data.
to give you a wee bit of how i would have a clue about this.
super short version grew up around Pro Audio Test and measurement and internals of electronics Building designing from like 8) aswell my heydays with my IC735 (modded) (into all tech areas)
but going back to the fm.
if it can receive fm then it can transmit it. bottom line.
the only thing we need is the software.
so heres why.
the data i have (very clearly says that the fm part of the chip has its own single antenna for rx or tx so no switchs etc needed. (the chip boasts every thing that is in it has all supporting parts inside IE Amplifyers (wifi BT use a external switch but fm clearly shows it doesnt)
so going back to that its an antenna connected to the TXR (rx,tx) fm part of the chip. and has a UART IO so it has biderectional.
if it can recieve and tune the freq to RX then it can tune and pump to fm TX
basicly chip goes.
AUDIO (Uart) In out ---- RX,TX Chip and antenna
all there allready ONly thing missing is software to put the audio in not pull from it.
Guys. Electronics now days (He!! back in the day) its simple just take peice by peice not evertying has to be so complex it cant be..
sorry typing from phone so no spell check EVO turned off to increase speed.
OH going back if you look at the public docs. you will clearly see the wif and bt have external switchs for the antennas.
and the FM shows one antenna and no switches for rx or tx. Take a look comon sense tells you htc wont admit it can do tx right now.. we would demand an APP.
they need to sell us something later. but use todays chip.

I've seen the datasheet. Of course I think, there is no need for a second antenna. BUT maybe it could be possible, that there is some LP or HP needed on some pins or any other component which would have increased the BOM about 0.1 cent. Not to mention the additional area needed on the board of the phone...
So as long as I don't see any detailed spec sheet of the BCM4329 which clearly points out that everything is on board, I will not try to develop a software for it (which I am willing to)!
Bottom line.

Does anyone have any resources to get the required datasheet for the BCM4329?
I assume it is too complex to reverse engineer. (Am I wrong?)

Broadcom Open sources their drivers
Broadcom has announced they are going to release the source code for their drivers, the BCM4329 is not yet listed, but maybe it will be soon?
http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/09/09/1925214/Broadcom-Releases-Source-Code-For-Drivers
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.wireless.general/55418
git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/gregkh/staging-next-2.6.git
Would this help?

Power supply could be issue. Transition requires much more power than receiving.

ToyTank said:
Power supply could be issue. Transition requires much more power than receiving.
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Think about that tho,
How much power do you possibly need to transmit a low power signal from less than 2 feet away. Wifi transmitting (upload) probably takes up more power.

This would be an extremely nifty feature, though I would reckon it would eat your battery pretty hard, not to mention the heat output.