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It looks like stupid T-mobile has deleted the MSMessenger from their ROM version for MDA Pro.
Instead they put liks for their own dumb sites all over the place.
Does anyone know how to get the messenger back?
T-Mobile are soo gay
There are 3 ways:
1) Flash your rom with jasjar (you get Skype, antivirus, Pocket MSN and freed memory). I had done this myself, it's easy to do but it will break the device's warranty
2) Buy, yes I repeat, BUY the pocket MSN from microsoft for US$20. I think the reason behind the dissappearance of Pocket MSN is due to the extra charge imposed by Microsoft for the inclusion of this program.
3) You can try some other Messenger like Agile Messenger. It includes the MSN, Yahoo, AOL and ICQ in one app and for the cost of €19.95 (a bit more expensive)
Agile Messenger is FREE!
Slimshady0 said:
Agile Messenger is FREE!
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7 days trial.
Thank you, dianna_wills.
I really think we shoul sue ****in T-Mobile for this.
If I buy a device with WM5 on it, and WM5 includes MSMessenger (according to Microsofts website), I can expect to get the device with MS Messenger without having to pay extra.
At least I can`t remember having seen any warning about this in their advertising.
Also I don`t think it`s funny that I can`t remove their homepage (after every reset it`s back).
All this can`t be legal.
Any lawyers in here?
AGILE Messenger is free whilst it's in Beta, when Agile have a release version the Beta versions will probabaly cease to work and the software will be USD 20 outright or 2USD PM charged via text message.
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AGILE Messenger is free whilst it's in Beta, when Agile have a release version the Beta versions will probabaly cease to work and the software will be USD 20 outright or 2USD PM charged via text message.
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And it uses much less data (like it uses 10% of what MSN uses to do the same job) and so with your web 'n' walk tariff it makes absolute sense to use it. Even when it goes commercial, I will recoup the cost of agile within a month or two compared to if I used gazillions of megs with MSN proper.
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And it uses much less data
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If that'#s truly the case, I'll buy it.
Is video conferencing possible using any messenger programmes
The kids use msn messenger and their web cams.
Will the universal do this either on a wirless network and/or over the 3g network.
Is there any way to get the pocket messenger to support video conferencing/web cam
Thanks
Steve
hollytree said:
Is video conferencing possible using any messenger programmes
The kids use msn messenger and their web cams.
Will the universal do this either on a wirless network and/or over the 3g network.
Is there any way to get the pocket messenger to support video conferencing/web cam
Thanks
Steve
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I've moved to agile messenger, and it's definitely not available there, but if they update it to allow webcamming over msn or whatever via wifi or 3G, that would truly be a killer app.
Hello!
I would greatly appreciate it if you could suggest any good multi - IM software for the universal (Yahoo, MSN, ICQ mainly)
agile messenger was good, but it has a lot of stability issues on the universal. So could you suggest something other than agile?
Thanks,
San
Hmm I'd be interested also in what people are using, at the moment I only have PocketMSN installed.
MSN via IRC
Hi all,
Well I own an MDA Pro (HTC Universal) so it doesn't come with MSN Messenger installed. I am waiting for the new Rom though which does include it. In the meantime I'm using an IRC client in combination with Bitlbee to get on the MSN network. It works like a charm. If you don't know what Bitlbee is you can go here (www.bitlbee.org) to read all about it and to try it out. Basically it's just a IRC Bot/Script that you can run on your computer and it forms a gateway to different IM networks like MSN, Yahoo, ICQ, AIM etc... You can also use the public servers if you don't want to install it on your own pc. Ow and it's free also.
Agile Messenger for Windows Mobile is still free as far as I know, and supports MSN, Yahoo!, AOL, Jabber and ICQ.
I'm using it almost daily. Works quite well, actually.
It has crashed on me at times, but only after extensive chatting.
Omnichaos: Does the MDA Pro not come with MSN? The i-mates do, and it's a free download from Microsoft's site too. The problem with using IRC scripts and bots is that not one bit of it is encrypted, so you're opening up your data to some script-kiddie with lots of time on his hands (granted, I haven't read about your solution, so I don't know the details)
Even I use Agile messenger..it works fine also in Full VGA Mode :lol:
What about any alternatives for just an MSN? I'm not using any other communicators so don't need the all-in-one ones.
I'm quite happy with Pocket MSN, it's just annoying me that the chat window is so small and hard to read and there is a huge unused space underneath.
rottie said:
What about any alternatives for just an MSN? I'm not using any other communicators so don't need the all-in-one ones.
I'm quite happy with Pocket MSN, it's just annoying me that the chat window is so small and hard to read and there is a huge unused space underneath.
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Click on your SIP to display it, and then hide it again to clear the huge unused space.
snorbaard said:
Agile Messenger for Windows Mobile is still free as far as I know, and supports MSN, Yahoo!, AOL, Jabber and ICQ.
It has crashed on me at times, but only after extensive chatting.
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Also my Agile crashes now and then my Jasjar. Indeed you need extensive chatting first. It has never crashed just in stand bye mode.
Agile however recovers very well after being out of reach of the network, which, in my case, cannot be said about MSN.
And the MSN new-user-on-line warning can officially not be switched off. Very irritating.
Anyone tried IM+?
Huib
hey, Thanks!!!
@ snorbaard
No the MDA Pro does not come with MSN Messenger at least not yet (It's included in the next Rom update). I don't know why they haven't included it in the first place cause I now that the Imate's, O2's & Qtek's do.
You are right about MSN being a free download but you have to active your MSN account first for you to be able to use Pocket MSN and that costs 15 euro's.
But as I said it doesn't matter for me that much cause I'm using IRC to get on the MSN network.
You're probably right about IRC not being encrypted but you can run it on your own computer which does increase security alot than if you were to use the public servers. Besides I don't really care that much. It's not like I'm giving away passwords or creditcard numbers on MSN anyway.
Agile Messenger - NEW WM 5.0 version
We will be releasing a new version of Agile Messenger for WM5.0 both PPC and Smartphone versions, that is a complete re-write from the ground up. The BETA will be available in the next week or so, and will be posted publicly on this forum for all of the members to download.
Your feedback is appreciated, and we are quite confident that you will be happy with the new Agile Messnger for WM5.0.
Thanks for your continued support.
BR
Seth
Agilemobile.com Ltd.
Sweet!!!
Can't wait to try it out.
New Agile? Great. Used it on my Nokia 9500. Very nice and stable.
eagerly waiting for a testdrive.
Huib
IM+ is really good. Its WM5 compliant and does Google messenger also.
yo i tried agile on my mda pro, but it wouldnt work,
touchscreen doesnt work with it,and i could only select msn not logon to it
to bad, i just have to wait voor that t-mobile update i guess
P'z
Beta
The new version should support:
Push To Talk
Image Transfer
Emoticons
Group Management
Typing Notification
Support for AOL, MSN, ICQ, Yahoo, and Google Talk
Amongst a number of other new features, and an entirely new interface.
There have ben a number of internal builds over the past few months, and we expect to be releasing a Beta very shortly.
For those of you that are requesting early Beta's it is simply not possible as we intend to provide it to the entire community as soon as our internal devlopment team and quality controll is satisfied that it is ready for public release; which we expect to be in the next few weeks.
BR
Seth
Agilemobile.com Ltd.
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IM+ is really good. Its WM5 compliant and does Google messenger also.
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I also use IM+. I have since i first got my old Nokia 7650 many moons ago.
I use an XDA EXEC at the moment and the built in MSN Messenger is really bad it claims i am connected when i am not and my gprs monitor reported over 400k usage in around 3 hours without any use.
With IM+ i use around 23K when connecting then a very small amount each time i chat.
AFAIK IM+ also connects directly to the services. I know some other third party ones connect through their own servers.
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universaldoc said:
IM+ is really good. Its WM5 compliant and does Google messenger also.
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I also use IM+. I have since i first got my old Nokia 7650 many moons ago.
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Dingo, that is good news. There is competition. I would love you to compare both Agile and IM+ as soon as the new, rewritten, Agile appears.
I use Agile at the moment. Apart from sometimes hanging my Jasjar, it does the job well. Especially REconnecting after being in the subway is very imporant for me. MSN just does not and Agile reconnects quickly.
MB consumtion of MSN is unacceptable. Very strange that MS delievered a product like that.
Huib
Hi guys
I have been using agile oin my T;mobile exec. It is very stable and i also find it recovers well on disconnects between cell sites. I regularly use it on express train journeys in the uk. But for these i tend to turn of UMTS and force gsm only. this really helps on speeding up agile reconnecting when the unoiversal is moving fast. The other big thing on agile is it costs less than 305 of the bw that MS MSN client uses. So on samll bundles it will save far more in bw costs than any licence feee will cost. If you are having problems on the t-mobile exec, then you are probably doing something wrong, or you have some other trird party sw installed that is messing thinbgs up. Personally i am really pleased that tmob did not install msn otherwise i would not have discovered agile. Can t wait till the new version comes out.
Keepup the good work at the Agile dev team.
Regards
Charlie
MSN Mobile is ... really bad IMHO.
Im also using IM+ as its the most stable for me. It also support jabber but it really miss some basic features.
Are they any other good jabber clients?
Agile was also not really working out for me, lets see how it behave on an new version.
If anybody know any other clients plz post them. Im also really ready to pay for them - 100EURO for a really ok client is no problem. Sources would be even better so i could fix the rest myself.
If somebody could provide sources, i would even sign an NDA or something and pay more.
Would love if somebody contact me
Daniel
Anyone got the same problem ? I still use the old MSN Messenger of WM2003 SE, original one from the Magician.
It does not work anymore.
I tried MSN 4.7.3 in my PC and it does not work either. I upgraded to the latest release and it works !
I think Microsoft is now blocking the old MSN messenger
Any ideas?
It still works for me, then maybe it was just a short interruption of service.
Strange, it still does not work for me. It happened about 5 hours ago and still does not work until now.
Internet connection is working fine, I use GPRS. Browsing is fine.
Like I said, I have this problem also in the PC. But when I updated the MSN Messenger to the latest release (Windows Live Messenger), it is working fine.
However, I dont know how to update my Magician MSN Messenger
yeah it doesnt work sometimes, i dont use it alot.
if you wana use messenger get agile or IM+ they support multiple messengers
Is Agile freeware ? This is confusing because in some forums people put it as freeware. But when I check the website, I have to pay about $19 USD.
I tried it once (I think I got it bundled with T-Mobile NL), and I dont like it because of intermittent hung up.
Maybe there is a newer version, I dont know.
What is your experience with Agile ?
I hate Agile for the only reason that when a suggestive input text has been selected, it sends the message which may rather be incomplete.. It should be freely available though.
I like agile - think its a really good wee programme, never had a problem with predictive - but I have it turned off.
It is free if you get the ppc version - some mobile versions are charged but I downloaded and used the ppc one and not a penny was paid.
However I did pay for a years service on my 6600 then 2 months in got the hermes so I guess my lack of use of my paid version more than makes up for getting the hermes version for free.
yeah it says its paid for but when you install it it doesnt say trial only or anything
I like Agile, never had any problems. It's a really good program and best of all... it's totally free.
gogol said:
Anyone got the same problem ? I still use the old MSN Messenger of WM2003 SE, original one from the Magician.
It does not work anymore.
I tried MSN 4.7.3 in my PC and it does not work either. I upgraded to the latest release and it works !
I think Microsoft is now blocking the old MSN messenger
Any ideas?
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Have you installed or recently updated a firewall/antivirus application like Norton software? This could be the problem with the PC version as I've found that sometimes updates block files such as the exe file for MSN; this could explain why the old messenger didn't work and the new one does, as the exe files are different. No idea with the ppc tho :/
Is there a free messenger like Agile Messenger?
Hi,
I use this one, I think is real nice.
http://www.mobilefan.net/Pocket-PC.nsf/Download-Free/Chat-ICQ-V1.0-for-WinCE3.0-to-PPC-2003
Have a go at:
http://www.qip.ru/downloads.html
This is a really nice client, well integrated into WM5
It is a bit slow on my Prophet, but i can handle it.
btw: Is there a possibility to let GPRS activated when the Device is sleeping ?
Is there anyway to install msn without the need to activate your emaill address each time?
Is there a difference in the version which can be downloaded and the one which is pre-installed in some roms?
Any other IM software everyone uses over pocket msn?
I use agile messenger, far better than msn to me !
Pocket MSN
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I use agile messenger, far better than msn to me !
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I agree Agile seems to act as a good replacement for MSN on a PDA, Is the version of Pocket MSN you are running a pre-release version or a final version as i seem to recall there being some issues with a Beta version that was released.
Thanks a lot for your replies. I have used Agile previously on symbian platform...excellent app. If I remember correctly it is subscription based now.
yes... it's been "free" for a long time but isn't anymore. Just realised that today when I tried to reinstall an old (free) version, it asks for update ($$$) or won't work