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How to install TomTom for dummies please?

Hi
just got my XDA Mini S.
I have also bought a Holux GPSlim236 bluetooth GPS reciever.
I have NOT got a miniSD card... do I need one???
I have downloaded tomtom_5.21_wm2005_ppc_+crack with these files in the folder on my PC:
gps.cab
PIMAddIn.cab
ttn.cab
voice12.cab
wzd.cab
(FOLDER) crack with:
TomTom Navigator.exe
(FOLDER) TomTom with:
CurrentMap.dat
Is there any chance someone can write a install TomTom guide *for dummies* in real laymans terms?

Due to the amount of space required to by TomTom there is no way you're going to be able to install it on your device without extra space - eg miniSD card. They're reasonably cheap, compared to a few years ago, and you can get a 2Gb on eBay for about £35 to £40 or around half that if you just want to get a 1Gb card, which will be more than enough for TomTom.
Once you've done that, read this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29277

Right I'll pop out to Aria and get a miniSD

I read that link as well and it's very confusing...
I just want basic steps for an install to get tomtom sat nav working.

I had the same problem before and I ran across this article:
http://www.4winmobile.com/q-how-can-i-install-tomtom-navigator-5-on-wm5-devices-vt934.html
Probably it will help you in installing it correctly.
You definitely need to have mini SD card for this app.
DulYang

Not got the miniSD card yet but read the guide and am still not sure what to do.
Take your version 5 Application/Resource CD (probably CD1 or 6) and copy the contents of the CD to a folder on your desktop.
Download the latest update from TomTom currently v5.21 (28-12-05).
I have got 5.21 but it's not on CD
Copy the files that you just extracted to the folder on your desktop that contains the CD files and overwrite the existing “setup.exe” with the new one.
I have not extracted anything, and I don't have a file called setup.exe
Execute “setup.exe” and follow the instructions to install.
Now copy the next CD to a folder on your hard drive (EG:The map cd).
No CD
Follow steps 3 to 5
Keep repeating this process for all your CD’s, Maps, Voices, Post Codes.
do I need map files or do I have them???
Now most of the stuff (apart from maps & post codes) were installed in the main memory of my o2 XDA Exec even though I explicitly stated in the install to put them on the SD Card.
I rectified this by performing the following:
do I need to do any of this?
Create a folder on the SD Card called “TomTom”.
Cut the files from the folder “Navigator” which is in main memory under “\Program Files”.
These files are “TomTom Navigator.exe” & “data.chk”.
Paste these files into the folder “\Storage Card\TomTom”.
PLEASE NOTE:
Without the presence of a TomTom folder here the full postcode lookup, voices and schemes will fail if you move them to the Storage Card.
& Don’t forget to change the path of the shortcut under Start>Programs
You can use a 3rd party explorer like Resco Explorer for this
You can delete the “Navigator” folder from main memory now.
Create a folder called “voices” in the root of SD Card.
IE: “\Storage Card\voices”.
Cut the files inside “\My Documents\tomtom” which is in main memory, these files are the English UK voices. (You may have more).
“data04.chk”, “data04.vif”, “data05.chk” & “data05.vif”.
Created a folder called “schemes” in the root of SD Card.
IE: “\Storage Card\schemes”.
This is where I put all my downloaded schemes & the ones I created.
PLEASE NOTE:
If you are using a custom scheme don’t be alarmed when you load TomTom and your display looks a little bland, your custom scheme will appear when you have a valid GPS signal.
In the main memory there is “\TomTom” with the following files inside it.
“_do_not_remove.txt”, “go1108m.wav”, “tttoday.bmp”, “tttoday.dll” & “tttodayvga.bmp”.
These files are for the today screen pluggin.
Apparently, although I cannot confirm, these files can be deleted if you don’t use the TomTom today pluggin.
BUT THE FOLDER MUST REMAIN!
I suppose you could use Activesynch to remove this pluggin.
If you use custom menus you will have a folder inside this “TomTom” folder called “SDKRegistry”
and inside this folder will be a file called “TomTom.mnu “
I don’t use custom menu’s so I’m assuming this must stay where it is.
Now you need to create a text file called “CurrentMap.dat”.
Open the file & type & \Storage Card\Great_Britain-Map\
or whatever the name of your main map folder is on your SD card.
Do not forget to add the final backslash and a have a space between the ampersand and the first backslash.
Save the file as "CurrentMap.dat". Make sure it doesn't end up as CurrentMap.dat.txt!
Put this file in the main memory of your PPC under “\My Documents\TomTom”.
PLEASE NOTE:
Without this file TomTom will tell you that you have no maps installed!
In the main memory, under “Program Files” there is a folder called “Conatcts Navigation”
IE: “\Program Files\Contacts Navigation”.
I think this needs to stay where it is in order for the contacts <> TomTom “navigate to/find on map” integration feature to work.
(Eg. Select a contact from your address book and find them on the map/navigate to them)
At this stage you should pair your Bluetooth GPS Receiver before launching TomTom.
I have the Bluetooth GPS listed but it says COM6, does this matter?
Start>Settings>Connections>Bluetooth> Turn on bluetooth.
Turn on your Bluetooth GPS receiver.
Click on “devices” tab and then on “new Partnership”
Wait for the scan.
Select “BT GPS” (or whatever your's is called).
Click on "next" Enter passkey (mine was "0000")
Check your GPS Receiver's manual.
Click on "next"
Once properly paired, put a check next to "Serial Port" as the device's available service.
click "Finish".
Click on "COM Ports" Tab
Click "New Outgoing Port", select "BT GPS" (or whatever your's is called).
click "next".
Set COM port to "COM4", while leaving Secured Connection still checked.
If that doesn’t work, choose a different COM port.
Click "Finish" and your device should now be listed with (COM4) next to it.
Now load up TomTom.
During setup you will be asked to specify your GPS hardware.
Select "Other Bluetooth GPS" then select "COM4".
PLEASE NOTE:
In future you don’t need to enable bluetooth, just load Tom Tom and it does it for you.
PLEASE NOTE:
IF FLIGHT MODE ON YOUR PDA IS ON, YOU WILL NOT GET A GPS SIGNAL, EVEN IF BLUETOOTH IS ON!
and now all should work
Dam I'm Good!!
To summarize all this, here is my directory structure.
Is this on the XDA Mini S or his PC?
MAIN MEMORY:
\My Documents\TomTom\CurrentMap.dat, great_britain_plus-7777ac9g (This is your registration details in the format "<map name>-<letters&numbers)
\Program Files\Contacts Navigation\<20 dll files>
\TomTom\_do_not_remove.txt, go1108m.wav, tttoday.bmp, tttoday.dll & tttodayvga.bmp
\TomTom\SdkFileCalls\<empty>
STORAGE CARD:
\Storage Card\Great_Britain_Plus-Map\<map files & POI files here>
\Storage Card\Great_Britain-Map\<map files & POI files here>
\Storage Card\schemes\<custom schemes in here>
\Storage Card\TomTom\data.chk, navigator.cfg & TomTom Navigator.exe
\Storage Card\voices\blah.chk, blah.vif & blah.bmp (for custom voice files)
\Storage Card\zip\great_britain.postal (7 digit post code lookup)
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Can anyone tell me exactly what I need to do in my scenario please with the files I listed in my first post?

JohnHamer19677 wrote:
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Can anyone tell me exactly what I need to do in my scenario please with the files I listed in my first post?
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Ok, I got it now.
You just have the files cracked from somewhere on the Internet.
In order for this guide to work, you need to have the original TomTom CD 5.0 that includes all the maps, voices etc. ( I believe it was 6 CDs altogehter)
The one that you have is just the "cracked" version of TomTom exe file without any maps to use. That's why it's just a couple of MB in size.
The latest part of the guide is showing the structure of the Wizard, not PC.
DulYang

1. Go and buy a copy of TomTom.
2. Follow the instructions.
Please do not ask for help with cracked/pirate software on this forum, it is not what we are about.

OK mate :roll:

findus said:
1. Go and buy a copy of TomTom.
2. Follow the instructions.
Please do not ask for help with cracked/pirate software on this forum, it is not what we are about.
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Although I agree with you it would be a first on this forum!!! LOL. Just look at the FTP site! Full of illegal ROMs etc.

OK...
I have now aquired a copy of 5.21 + a 1gig mininSD card
1. I the TomTom Navigator folder onto a new miniSD card
2. Put the card into the slot on the XDA
3. Clicked tomtom navigator.e x e
4. Program starts up and a Legal Notice screen appears
5. Click I Agree
6. Comes up with Can Not Find Maps
So I copy "Great_Britain_Plus-Map" folder to the miniSD card
And I copy "Great_Britain-Map" folder to the miniSD card
Repeat steps 1-5 but then it just hangs... I need to reboot the XDA to make it work again.
Any ideas on what to try next?

Progress...
I have installed the TomTom program from the update on he TomTom site!!!
It installed to the XDA not the miniSD but not problems.
Now where do I put the maps???
and voices???

I have put Great_Britain-Map onto the miniSD card but it's saying:
No Maps Found!

JohnHamer19677 wrote:
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No Maps Found!
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You need to install the maps and voices by running the setup.exe from the CD and pick install. That way all the necessary files will be copied over to your Mini D card by the CD installer.
Then if you follow the instruction that I gave you, you would notice step 10.
Step 10 said:
Now you need to create a text file called “CurrentMap.dat”.
Open the file & type & \Storage Card\Great_Britain-Map\
or whatever the name of your main map folder is on your SD card.
Do not forget to add the final backslash and a have a space between the ampersand and the first backslash.
Save the file as "CurrentMap.dat". Make sure it doesn't end up as CurrentMap.dat.txt!
Put this file in the main memory of your PPC under “\My Documents\TomTom”.
PLEASE NOTE:
Without this file TomTom will tell you that you have no maps installed!
DulYang

Right I got it to find Great_Britain_Plus-map but now it's asking me to activate

JohnHamer19677 wrote:
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Right I got it to find Great_Britain_Plus-map but now it's asking me to activate
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Now this is the time for you to replace the original exe file on your device with the cracked one that you got from the Internet.
I guarantee you it won't ask you for nothing else.
Good luck.
DulYang

Wha hey!!
Sorted now... I had to get another Great-Britain-map to get rid of the activation screen I'd already done the exe swap.
Notice the differance in the under score and dash from the one I downloaded. Don't know if that made a differance.
Now all I had to do was switch maps over to the GB-plus map and I was away.
GPSlim236 picked up my location immediatly from inside downstairs no problems.
Thanks for everyones help especially dulyang.

Ok heres another dummy that has go all the bits but hasn't a clue how to install tomtom on my wizard. (I've had them for 6 months now lol)
Now that you have sucessfully sorted yours John could you write a simple step by step instruction for others ? you will have a better idea than most where existing instructions are a bit vague or ambiguous etc.

Hi Everybody!!! :?
Where do I place my voices folder?
I have a voices folder on my storage card, in my tomtom folder , but also have a voices folder on my device in the tomtom folder there?
When Istart the program and try to change the voice, the voices are greyed out and won't let me select any of them.
Thanks for any replies
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peanut said:
Ok heres another dummy that has go all the bits but hasn't a clue how to install tomtom on my wizard. (I've had them for 6 months now lol)
Now that you have sucessfully sorted yours John could you write a simple step by step instruction for others ? you will have a better idea than most where existing instructions are a bit vague or ambiguous etc.
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Hi mate,
1. 1st download 5.21 from tomtom http://www.tomtom.com/support/index.php?FID=3361&Lid=1
it's about a quater of the way down the page...
I know you prob have 5.21 but so did I and it didn't install right but the one from tomtom's site did it perfectly... IT'S FREE!!!
2. Have you XDA plugged into your PC using the lead and the Active Sync program.
3. Double click the .exe you just downloaded from tomtom
it will start running on the PC but install to the XDA... follow the on screen instructions on the PC and then follow them on the XDA.
4. Now all you have to do is put your miniSD card in your card reader and drop the maps from the PC to the miniSD card.
You might have to extract to the miniSD card if they are zipped files as extracting them to your PC then drag and dropping didn't work for me.
5. If you have a crack you need to copy the TomTom Navigator.exe out of your Crack folder and replace the one that's in > programs > navigator > on your XDA.
I used the Active Sync "explorer" to navigate to these files.
6. Once that's done just start tomtom and wait it takes a min or so to load and you should get some on scren instructions... go through these and that should be it.

Yet another TomTom instruction thread

For those interested, I installed TomTom 5.00 on my 8125 tonight and it is now working perfectly.
Here is how I did it.
Create a new folder on your SD card and copy all of the CAB and INI files except for ttn.cab and ttn.ini to your SD card from D:\pocketPC (assuming D:\ is your CDROM drive containing TomTom install CD)
Run all the cab files in whatever folder you just made (on the 8125, NOT on your PC)
Download WinCE Cab Manager and install it
Open up D:\pocketpc\ttn.cab using WinCE Cab Manager
Copy the data.chk file from the CAB to your \program files\Navigator directory on your 8125
Copy TomTom Navigator.exe from the CAB to program files/Navigator on the 8125
Copy CurrentMap.dat from the CAB to \My Documents\TomTom on the 8125
Open D:\voice\voice09.cab with WinCE cab manager.
Copy the data09.chk file to \program files\Navigator on your 8125 (this will give you the "Robert" voice as default, you have to have at least one voice installed)
Copy any maps you need to the root of the SD card.
Pair your bluetooth GPS receiver with your phone and assign it an OUTGOING com port under the com port section of the BlueTooth connections utility in WM2005. Remember what COM port you gave it.
Copy \Program Files\Navigator\navigator.cfg from your 8125 to your desktop.
Open navigator.cfg in a text editor. You will see a reference to COMn where n is any number. Change n to the COM port number that you assigned your bluetooth GPS to. Save the navigator.cfg file and copy it back over to \Program Files\Navigator\
THATS IT!
Its alot of steps, but I now have TT 5.00 working on my 8125.
Let me know if you use this method, and if it works. It worked like a charm for me.

FIne for the install but how do you get the maps from the 6 cd's to the sd card?

ReLoad v0.1 Beta

ReLoad
This is a MortScript script written to simplify reinstalling cab files, and restoring files back to the device from a zip file on the trinity.
More information about MortScript at http://www.sto-helit.de
-v.01 Initial Release
Known Issues
-Cab files that initiate the installation of another cab file ie.Wisbar Advanced
-How to setup:
1)Extract Reload.rar to your storage card.
2)Place cab files in the CabsAuto folder if you want to the cab to be automatically installed to the device (installation to automatically install to the storage card is currently not available).
3)Place cab files in the CabsManual folder if you want to be able to choose where to install the cab.
4)Place file in the Backup.zip file that you want to be restored.
ie. If you wanted example.jpg to be placed in the \Windows folder, place example.jpg in the Windows folder of the zip file.
*Please note that the cab files placed in the CabsAuto folder need to conform to only asking the user for the installation destination, then showing installation successful/unsuccessful. Otherwise you might encounter some
problems. You should place cabs that don't conform in the CabsManual folder, or adjust these cab files with programs such as WinCE CAB Manager.
-How to use:
1)In the Reload folder, execute Run1st. Click ok the the window that pops up. This just installs MortScript
2)Execute Run2nd. This will initiate the script that will first install the CabsAuto, then CabsManual, and finally restore the files in the zip file.
Use at your own risk.
Download
http://rapidshare.com/files/29964511/Reload.rar.html

Thx, that's a good idea.

is there a way to have it restore registry entries from a .reg file?

Is there a way to install certain cab files on RAMDisk/Storage card without individually clicking the install option??

@racerx_
Currently there isn't a way to restore the reg file directly. But you can create a cab from the reg file and then have that cab automatically installed.
MortScript wasn't able to read in the reg files i saved with resco explorer, so I gave up on doing it this way. For right now the easiest way is to create a cab file with WinCE Cab Manager.
@c_shekhar
The best way to install the program to the Storage Card, backup the reg (and any possible files installed on rom), then create a cab from this.
This post has alot of good information on this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=277727

yeah, i've been trying like a madman to get win ce cab manager to make a cab of my .reg file.. but when i click on 'import' and try to grab the .reg file it tells me it's only for registered versions of the program.. is there another way i'm not seeing? cause right now the only other options i see for registry entries is to manually create them one by one which doesn't sound very exciting hah
thanks for the help..

@racerx
What OS and version of WinCE Cab Manager are you running. I heard of some problems with the newest version of WinCE Cab Manager with Vista. I am running version 2.1.0.35.
If that isn't it, you might have run the program past its initial trial use.

hmm.. Win Ce CabManager is 2.1.0.50 running on xp.. still got 17 uses left.. sigh..
Maybe i missed something. Just in case, what button or command are you using to get your .reg file into WinCE? I was using the 'file' 'import' command.

@racerx
That's the same way I do it. I would find an older version and try it again.

Reload V0.2
I made a couple of changes to the script for a rom we are going to be releasing soon...it checks if Backup.zip exists and only does the unzip if it does...I also added a SDBackup.zip for files to unzip to Storage card (specifically exe's and dll's I've already upx'd to shrink them but reinstalling the cabs replaced them again so this puts them back)....
#ReLoad
#v.02 Initial Release
#Use at your own risk.
#v.02 Extract files from SDBackup.zip to Storage Card
If(Question("Do you want to ReLoad?", "Reload 0.2", "YesNo")="No")
EXIT
EndIf
Run("Storage Card\ReLoad\Bin\Message_Running.mscr")
RegWriteDWord("HKLM", "Comm", "AutoRunFlag", "0")
RegWriteString("HKLM", "Comm", "AutoRunCFG", "\Storage Card\ReLoad\CabsAuto\Config.txt")
#Create Config File
Delete("\Storage Card\ReLoad\CabsAuto\Config.txt")
WriteFile("\Storage Card\ReLoad\CabsAuto\Config.txt", "SHOW:\Storage Card\ReLoad\Bin\ReLoad.bmp^NL^")
ForEach x in files { "\Storage Card\ReLoad\CabsAuto\*.cab" }
WriteFile("\Storage Card\ReLoad\CabsAuto\Config.txt", "CAB: ", 1)
WriteFile("\Storage Card\ReLoad\CabsAuto\Config.txt", x, 1)
WriteFile("\Storage Card\ReLoad\CabsAuto\Config.txt", "^NL^", 1)
EndForEach
#CabsAuto Install
RunWait("\Storage Card\ReLoad\Bin\AutoRun.exe")
#CabsManual Install
ForEach x in files { "\Storage Card\ReLoad\CabsManual\*.cab" }
RunWait(x)
EndForEach
If (FileExists("\Storage Card\ReLoad\Backup.zip") )
#Restore files from zip to main storage
UnzipAll("\Storage Card\ReLoad\Backup.zip", "")
EndIf
If (FileExists("\Storage Card\ReLoad\SDBackup.zip") )
#Restore files from zip2 to storage card
UnzipAll("\Storage Card\ReLoad\SDBackup.zip", "\Storage Card\")
EndIf
KillScript("\Storage Card\ReLoad\Bin\Message_Running.mscr")
If(Question("Finished ReLoading.^NL^Do you want to reset?", "Reload 0.2", "YesNo")="No")
Exit
EndIf
Reset

Very good soft, it works nice !!
The only difficulty for the french users is to replace in the script "Storage Card" by "Carte de stockage"
Thx men for this !!!

Nice soft,
I could use FAMAN WM6 on my trinity now !
French translation and modification is (seem to be) ok.
Just wait the OK from the boss and I'll give you !
Edit : Why don't you use the LOCK:Enabled in the header and LOCKDisabled on the end of the config file ? Thxs in advance.

I use SettingsSavior on my Trinity mainly for its similar auto-install functionality

Hello,
Thank you for this very useful tool
My .cab are removed after using Reload. How can I keep my .cab on my SD after a new installation ?
Thank you for your help.
Guillaume
__________________
SPV M700
FAMAN 4.03.FR
1.50.08.11
2.79.7020.19H

can this software reinstall cabs, copy skin files in programs installation directory (eg pocketcm skin) and reconfigure mail and exchange accounts ?

OOPS delete this post.

NaviPanel findings.

Did a bit of a brute force hack by moving the copilt folder and replacing it with a same named TomTom folder under program files.
I then proceeded to use and launch Navipanel.
Holding the phone in reverse landscape I was able to launch TomTom via the 6th button. However TomTom keeps decifing to launch in Portrait mode.
The Recent, Address and home buttons also try to launch tomtom but the API's don't work as they are written for CoPilot.
The other two buttons work find as they interface with the phone.
Basically at this stage it looks like Navipanel is specific for CoPilot.

dusty_nz said:
Did a bit of a brute force hack by moving the copilt folder and replacing it with a same named TomTom folder under program files.
I then proceeded to use and launch Navipanel.
Holding the phone in reverse landscape I was able to launch TomTom via the 6th button. However TomTom keeps decifing to launch in Portrait mode.
The Recent, Address and home buttons also try to launch tomtom but the API's don't work as they are written for CoPilot.
The other two buttons work find as they interface with the phone.
Basically at this stage it looks like Navipanel is specific for CoPilot.
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Just found this on another site and it works a treat
To make TomTom replace copilot:
-You have to install tomtom to your SD card
-Locate the install dir of tomtom after you have installed it
-Locate the navigator.exe and copy it to another folder
-Rename the navigator.exe in the tomtom folder to copilot.exe
-Rename the navigator.exe you made copy off to splashscreen.exe
-Copy the splashscreen.exe back to same folder as the new copilot.exe is
-Rename the tomtom folder (or what ever the name is) to copilot.
-Copy the new copilot folder, and then locate the original copilot folder on device storage (Program Files/CoPilot) and paste the new folder over the original (DO NOT DELETE THE ORIGINAL FOLDER FIRST)
-Soft reset, and it should work just fine

This also works with igo8, but
Press Go Home, Address, Recent or Navigation and it launches in my case iGo.
it only launches the program, it goes straight to my navigation screen, not to Address or Recent or Home.
Anybody got a fix for this?
Thanks
dbryan said:
Just found this on another site and it works a treat
To make TomTom replace copilot:
-You have to install tomtom to your SD card
-Locate the install dir of tomtom after you have installed it
-Locate the navigator.exe and copy it to another folder
-Rename the navigator.exe in the tomtom folder to copilot.exe
-Rename the navigator.exe you made copy off to splashscreen.exe
-Copy the splashscreen.exe back to same folder as the new copilot.exe is
-Rename the tomtom folder (or what ever the name is) to copilot.
-Copy the new copilot folder, and then locate the original copilot folder on device storage (Program Files/CoPilot) and paste the new folder over the original (DO NOT DELETE THE ORIGINAL FOLDER FIRST)
-Soft reset, and it should work just fine
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Setting footprints on tom tom 7

I know it may sound stupid, but I can't figure out how to do it, and I already searched the forums with no luck.
My question is simple: how to set Footprints to launch and use TomTom 7 instead of the demo of Copilot on my HTC HD2.
Thanks.

I have the same question but in my case it s about igo. I would like to use footprints with my igo.. I am searching for an answer, too. If I find something I will write here. All the best.

I followed the instructions below on another thread, and they work fine in that footpriints now launches TomTom, but it does not plan a route to the footprint. Does anyone have a way of making TomTom navigate to the footprint? From what I have read, a .dll file is required for this. I'd love to get this working.
To make TomTom replace copilot:
-You have to install tomtom to your SD card
-Locate the install dir of tomtom after you have installed it
-Locate the navigator.exe and copy it to another folder
-Rename the navigator.exe in the tomtom folder to copilot.exe
-Rename the navigator.exe you made copy off to splashscreen.exe
-Copy the splashscreen.exe back to same folder as the new copilot.exe is
-Rename the tomtom folder (or what ever the name is) to copilot.
-Copy the new copilot folder, and then locate the original copilot folder on device storage (Program Files/CoPilot) and paste the new folder over the original (DO NOT DELETE THE ORIGINAL FOLDER FIRST)
-Soft reset, and it should work just fine

bumping as a solution would be nice!
Don't like using CoPilot so i would rather be using TomTom.

Changing a link in the registry should be an easier solution...

if i understood wright ,you have at the end to copy the entire eg igo (544mb)folder from storage card to device memory? how will this device work then whithout memory ??
i may be wrong ?

search forim pls, there is some solution linked with navipanel! dunno about the footprint how to adress the coordinates but can be made to start igo8 or tomtom. just search

karaern said:
search forim pls, there is some solution linked with navipanel! dunno about the footprint how to adress the coordinates but can be made to start igo8 or tomtom. just search
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Routing any GPS to be opened by Navipanel is one thing THEY are asking for something a step further on how to execute a command so it starts routing to a footprint. So far I haven't seen anyone do this.