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Well, When I arrived to my home to lunch today I was to check my Touch to send a message and I saw this! (See attachment)
I really don't know what happened! the phone doesn't suffered a hit or drop! the screen surface doesn't have any scratch.
Oh well, I will order a new screen from here...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290160074209
What do you think?
Ouch..sorry
i've drop mine few month back, puting my touch between my lap while i step out from my car. #@#$%!
send back to HTC Distributor cost me couple of hundred. LCD broken is Touch weakness. my previous 838pro drop twice doesnt even break the lcd.
ouch. that's a broken touch
Same happend with mine too... Some where I must have put a pressure on my touch while I had it on my pant pocket... Screen cracked in to pices... Had to spend 100$ to get it changed by HTC... I dont know how to protect, it was inside the pouch which came along with touch...
It does state in HTCs documents with the phone not to keep it in your pocket, but this is the first time I heard of damage as a result!
I have almost had the same things.... the screen cracked but without having any pressure.. I have always the touch in my pocket in the pouch but everything is still working fine there is just a crack in the screen but it looks like a 1cm long scratch .. and if I put a little pressure it's like moving (left part move apart from the right part) but I can't use it normally .. I have been so lucky !
how can we be responsible for having to press hard to use it but the screen is easy broken .... it's really baaaaad !! it's not our fault if they did something conflicting !
ohh I'm so sorry man, because of that I'm still thinking to choose between a HTC Elf or the Kaiser one, I have read some german test about the Elf and other pocket phones and they warned specially about carrying the Elf on your pocket. Anyway the price and the shipping price are OK, but don't you have an authorized distributor for HTC's produtcs in Venezuela? If you do the work by yourself you will loose the warranty.
In Venezuela they will say "que coñazo"
i bet this will happen more often w/ touch & touch slider. the screen is even w/ housing unlike other htc pda's which have the screen recessed into housing. just look at all the broken iphone's on ebay already.
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I really don't know what happened! the phone doesn't suffered a hit or drop! the screen surface doesn't have any scratch.
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Keys in the same pocket? happend once to my MP3 plyer
I had the same experience. Turned my touch off and placed it on my desk, the next morning there was a tiny crack in the bottom left corner and the entire screen was shining Whit e(like a screen full of dead pixels).
I could still use the PDA on my PC using mymobiler. HKD$500 to get repaired even though I tried to prove that I never dropped it or scratched the screen.
I suspect some of the Touch's have faulty manufacturing, but with screen cracks its impossible to prove that you didn't damage it yourself.
@ #6
Not a dig at you, but that document
Hahahaha so where do they suppose you keep your phone when your out? hold it in full view of the public?
Damn, is there an application/software that can fix that? Just teasing. Seriously though, that's tragic. I believe the more advance devices become, the more sensitive it is. I think way off in the distant future, high tech devices will come with a metal casing or something. I lent my girlfriend, of four years, my unlocked sony ericsson p910i phone. She shattered the lcd by accident by having keys in her pocket. She then asks me, can I fix it, lol.!!!
Bummer Dude,
but you can get a cheaper screen at cnn.cn
http://cnn.cn/shop/touch-screen-p-1900.html
cheers
Ok, The new screen arrived, before to try to replace the screen somebody have any tip, advice and/or manual?
huemedia said:
Bummer Dude,
but you can get a cheaper screen at cnn.cn
http://cnn.cn/shop/touch-screen-p-1900.html
cheers
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Thanks, I'll try this for the next one
pressure
this looks like a pressure problem. and although im not sure how it may of happened to you folks, but my girlfriends laptop did the exact same thing when we went to tibet.
tibet is so high up that the air pressure is quite low, like half of normal if not less, its really tough to breathe and canned foods almost explode when the pressure gets that low.
Now for you, and i'm just guessing here, but by any chance was it raining the day or the day before your screen broke? i mean low pressure system could of done it if its a really touchy device to begin with. have to remember, these things are made at or near sea level. if you live in high altittude, and a storm comes through it may just be enough to blow it out. I only say this because what i see on your screen and what happened to my girls ibook are nearly identical. Does the black blob move? she had three of them, and they would shift across the screen, not fast enough to watch, but noticeable over the course of a day or so.
that and combing it with a weaker screen with a error in it
as, i heard before from people having tach screens, is that it can crack very easlie, i have a friend how has the same problem with his Iphone, he just charge it, and when he wookup he found it all cracked and broken.
so from now on he need to charge it over work only
Ok, I replaced the screen, very easy to disarm the phone
Hi Folks,
I'm reading this forum since about 1,5 weeks, as I got my first smartphone then. Unfortunaly I sent it back today, as it got broken yesterday. It has the problem, that the touchscreen doesn't untouch. I made a picture:
I can get rid of this touched area by pressing on it with my fingernail and move it to the bottom.
I think it's from that lether case. Anybody else ever had a problem like that? Probably with another phone type?
Looks like condensation under the screen to me.
Reapply screen protector... That's it..
I thought about water also, but under the microscope we have seen that it wasn't water. I was able to remove it restless until I touched it next.
I removed the screenprotector, but that wasn't a solution.
Unfortonaly I had to send it back today, as I'll get a brandnew one within the first 14 Days after delivery
Wow that's new. Mebe condensation.
Maybe since the touch part is 2 layers, Glass and Plastic screen hovering on top of that, that it got too hot somehow and that the plastic part got stuck to the glass. mebe if you had let it cool or something it woulda unstuck.
Was the phone near any heat or in direct sunlight?\
This looks like a cracked digitizer, a touch sensitive layer above the screen itself. The screen underneath usually seems to be fine, but it doesn't have the touch capabilities anymore. It has a look of spilled liquid and you should be able to see dots of the touch grid, you can't see them normally. It happened to me on my Orbit2. I think whole screen has to be changed...
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This looks like a cracked digitizer, a touch sensitive layer above the screen itself. The screen underneath usually seems to be fine, but it doesn't have the touch capabilities anymore. It has a look of spilled liquid and you should be able to see dots of the touch grid, you can't see them normally. It happened to me on my Orbit2. I think whole screen has to be changed...
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I thought about something like that too. Has the digitizer a "spazial" filling, so that you have a "soft feeling" when you tab it with the penzil?
HTC Touch Freak said:
Wow that's new. Mebe condensation.
Maybe since the touch part is 2 layers, Glass and Plastic screen hovering on top of that, that it got too hot somehow and that the plastic part got stuck to the glass. mebe if you had let it cool or something it woulda unstuck.
Was the phone near any heat or in direct sunlight?\
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I had the phone in my trouser pocket every day. No sunlight or heat. I tried cooling down...no chance. I had a Cassiopeia once and had a waterdamage to it. There I was able to get the water out of the touchpad by having it on my heating for a few days. But it looked not like this here.
HI
i have the same problem with my diamond2.. i have on screen brando ultra clear ,i have called assistance and i must ship to them
now what i do, i must try to remove screenprotector before carry the phone to assistance or no?
help me
excuse for my bad english
tornado75 said:
HI
i have the same problem with my diamond2.. i have on screen brando ultra clear ,i have called assistance and i must ship to them
now what i do, i must try to remove screenprotector before carry the phone to assistance or no?
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I had the same screen protector...strange. I removed it before i sent it back. After removing I tried, but the error wasn't gone. I think better remove it before sending it back, but you should also try if this fixes the problem. Tell us if or if not
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I had the same screen protector...strange. I removed it before i sent it back. After removing I tried, but the error wasn't gone. I think better remove it before sending it back, but you should also try if this fixes the problem. Tell us if or if not
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i have removed the screenprotector but is the same error, i have sended it to assistance center this afternoon...
i wouldn't pay for damage why the phone is never fall
i hope well
Just had the same problem with my Td2. Not impressed. The phone was fine one minute as listening to my music on it, popped it in my pocket went upstairs ang got this blob right in the centre of the screen.
Glad I took the insurance now as this is going to have to get sent back. Not overly impressed as only had the phone for 6 weeks and having a problem with the build.
Just a quick question for those that had this problem. Was the damaged screen visible under all types of light?
I ask this because taking into different rooms in my house and different types of light it seems to disappear, then reappears under other light sources. I will test in the daytime tomorrow but am now starting to wonder exactly how long it has been there...
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Just a quick question for those that had this problem. Was the damaged screen visible under all types of light?
I ask this because taking into different rooms in my house and different types of light it seems to disappear, then reappears under other light sources. I will test in the daytime tomorrow but am now starting to wonder exactly how long it has been there...
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My "blob" couldn't be seen when I looked straight from above. As on my pictrue I had to look from a angle to see it. Also it was hard to see under bright daylight. Hope that helps.
But I have a question also: You all used the leather bag shipped with the phone? I think the case isn't plain enought inside. I think there is a higher pressure one the display while wearing it in my trouser pocket. Anybody else who can tell more about that?
I've the same problem, at least I think it is the same. Touch still works fine, but it seems like there is some condensation underneath the screen.
I can confirm that it has nothing to do with the screenprotector.
If I put my finger on it, it moves to the sides. Sometimes it seems to be gone, but after a while I notice it again.
It's a very colourful stain. Can I claim warranty for this kind of 'errors'?
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It's a very colourful stain. Can I claim warranty for this kind of 'errors'?
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As you are the 4th in this thread I think so
It's not under warranty of HTC, at least that's what they told me...
Did somebody else contacted HTC about this problem?
dlarge said:
It's not under warranty of HTC, at least that's what they told me...
Did somebody else contacted HTC about this problem?
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too bad it seems like they classify it under 'cracked display' - and according to the user manual it is not covered by warranty.
Probably, but I think it's just an error of HTC. The way they treat their loyal customers is, in my opinion, verry disappointing. It was the same with the problems everyone had with the TytnII.
Today I got my phone back from my provider...the same broken one. In the letter they told my I sent it back too later
Now I'm dissapointed from o2 Germany, cause the customer support told me what to do and I did it.
guys i had the same problem (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519441) and i got a replacement. but i tell you.. this is caused because one time the phone got hit by pressure on the screen and the screen itself kinda felt into the phonecase. check out from the side.. you probably will see that the screen is lowered - then when you use fingers on the touchscreen this blob appears. in my case the screen didnt work anymore as soon the blob appeared... but was able to get it out with some tissue and rubbing.
also i saw some oil liquid under de screen - depending on the light outside.
so.. just take care.. this phone is very sensitive to any pressure on the screen and using it in a trouser pocket is already dangerous!
Hello everyone.
I got my HD2 a couple of weeks ago and as usual with new toys, am still taking some extra care with it. I had a Touch HD before that withstood quite a few bumps and two small drops. I saw people carying iPhones in pants pockets, back and front. Given that HD2 screen is significantly larger, how fragile is it, really? I usually carry my phones in jacket pocket, screen towards the body, without any case or sleeve. Do I need to take so much care for it or is it actually more resilient than it seems? Yes, I've seen the threads with broken screens. Anything can break, given enough force.
Any serious feedback is welcomed. Thanks.
Cheers, R
Well I have had mine since it was released in the UK and have had it in my right hand side front pocket in my jeans/trousers etc, sat on floors etc and all sorts and nothing has ever happened to it at all. Its a pretty tough screen I think, as long as when its in you pocket its not at an odd angle, I cant see any problems keeping it in there. I certainly have no problems.
Scratch test
There is a YouTube video of a scratch test of the screen of an HD2, its in foreign but gives a good idea of its screen tolerances (those of a nervous disposition may wish to look away towards the end)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcEaehKWr2s
Hmm I can only speak for myself and my HD2... but my screen has 2 (really small) scratches..
I think these are from a keychain or maybe a lighter in my pocket. I don't really know where the came from - but not from dropping it.
I would recommend to use a (thin - not that thick vikuti) foil to protect it against scratches.
--> Question: What would you recomment regarding a foil to cover the screen? I bought 1 Vikuti foil and really disliked it - it is sooo thick
Edit: I think the knife in the video would be able to scratch the screen... only a matter of right angle an pressure
I dropped mine on new years eve - drunk and the only thing i noticed the following day was that i had lost the backplate lol
Someone on here very kindly gave me a replacement.
Other than that - no scratches so far
Had mine three weeks, using front trouser pocket though I am very conscious of checking the pocket for keys etc first.
I have a full body invisibleSHIELD skin, and i'm extremely happy with it.
I've knocked it a few times on the edge of tables and chairs, once on the metal hand grip on a bus seat, and theres not a mark on it anywhere.
I have a screen protector that covers the entire screen, and carry the phone in my pants pocket in the leather case that came with the phone (I'm waiting on a holster from eBay).
The screen is in perfect condition, however, I did scuff the corner of the HD2 by dropping it (in its leather case) as I went to put it in my pocket coming out of a movie theatre...dropped onto cement.
: /
I use a screen protector and have a very nice silicone case for it that fits very snug, but I'm just being careful.
I believe that common sense is enough to keep this device from being damaged. As you can see from the linked video above, the screen is very resiliant, but it's not scratchproof. Also, why on earth anyone would put it in the back pocket of their trousers and sit down is totally beyone me, but people have done it (and probably still do), but they end up on here asking how to fix their damaged screen. (My advice to them is to hook up a flex capacitor to their car, drive at 88mph, go back in time to before they broke it and slap themselves round the face and say "STOP BEING SILLY!!!")
It's tough, but not unbreakable. Just treat it with respect, look after it sensibly, and DO NOT PUT IT IN YOUR BACK TROUSER POCKET OR FRONT SHIRT POCKET!!!
As the meerkats say... simples
(I hate those adverts, but I do like Back To The Future )
johncmolyneux said:
FRONT SHIRT POCKET!!!
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Why not...I put it in there all the time?
So it won't fall out or...?
Spike15 said:
Why not...I put it in there all the time?
So it won't fall out or...?
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lol - I've NEVER seen anyone on this forum say that that has happened to them <sarc mark>
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lol - I've NEVER seen anyone on this forum say that that has happened to them <sarc mark>
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Just making sure I wasn't missing something.
Personally I don't bend over when I need to get something on the floor et cetera...I bend my knees...I've heard that bending like that is bad for your back.
Spike15 said:
Just making sure I wasn't missing something.
Personally I don't bend over when I need to get something on the floor et cetera...I bend my knees...I've heard that bending like that is bad for your back.
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Yes, and even moreso if you have a hernia! Good to see that xda is also responsible for good health advice too
I can't wait for mine to arrive next week. I can tell you from experience that the IPHONE has cracked 3 times in pocket when I put too much pressure. Apple does replace them on a regular basis. They allow for what they call a hairline. If it spiders they won't replace it but a hairline is within their tolerance and is common enough for them to replace it without question. That is how I ended up with a new replacement recently. I wasn't using the phone much but my HD battery died on site so I put the time into the IPHONE to use it. I squatted with the IPHONE in backpocket and CRACK. I probably should check my beltline while I am at it..
They replaced it and that worked out anyways as I am going to sell it. Keep my HD and Bold as backup.
The glass looks pretty solid and as many people reported it a good solid piece of hardware.
i keep mine in the case it comes with when i am carrying it around... any pocket really.
i just make sure i dont sit on it! lol
the screen itself is extremely resilient when it is out and in use.
I leave mine lying around all of the time out of the case and it still looks brand new.
I dont use any screen protector.
screen strength
being a kapasitive screen it uses a propper glass cover instead of ****ty plexi glass or resistive glass as most phones use, this naturally gives it a more scratch proof serface but makes it less resilient to actually breaking. like one guy said it all has to do with angle and preshure.. and abit of bad luck when it comes to screen protection i recomend invisiShield. they are nice and thin, VERY clear plastic so it doesnt disturb teh screen quality. and last but not least, the fabric its made of is teh same as teh stuff that they use to cover helicopter rotor blades with, so it comes with a 30 year waranty.
Thanks for all the replies so far. I suspected as much, but it sure is nice to hear other people's experience
Cheers, R
Impunitus said:
Thanks for all the replies so far. I suspected as much, but it sure is nice to hear other people's experience
Cheers, R
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I had the same fear with its screen .. i posted a poll on the screen
see this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618978
I've heard of this problem happening on other devices (see here, here, here, and although not what mine looks like, here), but I was wondering what I can do about this problem. This is called Newton's Rings, I believe, and there's a nice wikipedia article about it. Apparently it's a problem under the screen.
It's an oily smudge. It appears to be made up of asymmetric rainbow-colored rings and is apparently under the screen. It is only visible in indoor lighting in certain angles, and is less visible when the screen is on. When pressure is applied around this spot, it appears to shift slightly. It's been present for over a week on my device without much change.
The HD2 has a capacitive screen, so the method to correct these spots (the "duct tape method") is said not to work. How can I fix this problem? I'm pretty sure I didn't cause it since I was careful with my device--it could have been there (most likely) from the time of purchase.
Should I ask for an exchange at my local T mobile store? Should I try duct tape or a vacuum cleaner to suck the screen forward, or should I try to open the device up and detach the screen, or should I beg for a return?
Help!
PS: You might want to check your HD2's as well...
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I think you would have to have a resistive screen to even have this problem. A capacitive screen doesn't have these "layers." And, it requires a curvature to induce the inference rings which a hard glass screen with no layers doesn't have.
I followed a couple of them threads some time ago, and if I remember correctly some users which had this problem you're postin' about have had their hd2 replaced by htc cause it should fall under warranty terms. Return it to your local t-mo store and ask for a replacement. Should they deny that, try calling htc customer care and see if you can send it in to corporate for repair/exchange. I'd recommend that you try official ways first before attempting to disassemble it or to fix it by yourself as you may end up voiding your warranty..
Since you have a US T-Mobile HD2, and it has been less than 14 days and within the return period, you should be able to get it replaced at the store.
This is obviously a problem with the screen and you shouldnt try to fix it in any way. If you have installed or modded it in any way then return it to stock condition and take it back to your store. They are obliged to give you a replacement as it is a faulty unit. do not accept anything less.
Mark.
First of all, why in the hell would you buy such a device with incredible screen real-estate... and NOT place a screen protector on it?
My screen hasn't even been touched by human hands. Let me guess, the next thing you're going to tell us is your device has a scratch on the battery cover...
Having a case on the device would have prevented such an incident from occurring in the first place. Problem solved.
Take better care of your investments folks...
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First of all, why in the hell would you buy such a device with incredible screen real-estate... and NOT place a screen protector on it?
My screen hasn't even been touched by human hands. Let me guess, the next thing you're going to tell us is your device has a scratch on the battery cover...
Having a case on the device would have prevented such an incident from occurring in the first place. Problem solved.
Take better care of your investments folks...
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I seem to be confused about why you need a screen protector when the screen is glass? I was under the impression that glass screens won't scratch. I can't see how a screen protector would protect a glass screen from pressure, so what's the point?
LOL TRUE!!!!!!!! ^
chrys9989 said:
I seem to be confused about why you need a screen protector when the screen is glass? I was under the impression that glass screens won't scratch. I can't see how a screen protector would protect a glass screen from pressure, so what's the point?
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LOL TRUE!!!!!!!! ^
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Alright, well... I'm not even going to dignify myself a response to your first question... for obvious reasons.
As for pressure... what PRESSURE could you possibly be applying to your device that is apparently going to render the screen useless? It's a ****ING Pocket PC, don't mistreat it. Protect your investments... it's common sense.
Seriously though, your first question... RETHINK exactly what it was that you had asked me... and then I'm pretty sure you'll realize the stupidity.
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Alright, well... I'm not even going to dignify myself a response to your first question... for obvious reasons.
As for pressure... what PRESSURE could you possibly be applying to your device that is apparently going to render the screen useless? It's a ****ING Pocket PC, don't mistreat it. Protect your investments... it's common sense.
Seriously though, your first question... RETHINK exactly what it was that you had asked me... and then I'm pretty sure you'll realize the stupidity.
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I don't get the attitude, I simply asked you, or anyone else who seems to think they need a screen protector on a glass screen; why they feel that way. As far as I know, it's like next to impossible to scratch it, (unless you carry loose diamonds in your pocket) and the pressure comment was me trying to understand why you feel the need to get a protector. With all that said, I wasn't knocking you wanting one (somebody's got to buy them) I was simply trying to see if I was misinformed about the durability of glass screens.
Heh, my bling-bling may scratch my phone screen That's how you can tell they are real diamonds . Though, you make a good point, glass screen shouldn't scratch, and if anything, a crappy thicker screen protector may hinder the conductivity of your fingers? Just my guess. On a side note, had my ipod touch in the same pocket as my keys once (hate the thing, but it was free) The back got scratched to hell, but the screen was nice and unscathed.
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I don't get the attitude, I simply asked you, or anyone else who seems to think they need a screen protector on a glass screen; why they feel that way. As far as I know, it's like next to impossible to scratch it, (unless you carry loose diamonds in your pocket) and the pressure comment was me trying to understand why you feel the need to get a protector. With all that said, I wasn't knocking you wanting one (somebody's got to buy them) I was simply trying to see if I was misinformed about the durability of glass screens.
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Heh, my bling-bling may scratch my phone screen That's how you can tell they are real diamonds . Though, you make a good point, glass screen shouldn't scratch, and if anything, a crappy thicker screen protector may hinder the conductivity of your fingers? Just my guess. On a side note, had my ipod touch in the same pocket as my keys once (hate the thing, but it was free) The back got scratched to hell, but the screen was nice and unscathed.
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Alright. Well, my apologies for the "disrespect".
I'm merely saying that a screen sleeve, protector, or WHATEVER is how someone could go about preventing the oil corrosion that occurs from natural skin oils on the screen.
This isn't oil corrosion. No disrespect from me either, but this unit actually had a screen protector. And a case. So thanks, but no thanks.
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This isn't oil corrosion. No disrespect from me either, but this unit actually had a screen protector. And a case. So thanks, but no thanks.
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I had exactly the same situation with my old Hermes (going back quite a few years). I got it through the post from Tmobile and was playing happily with it for about half an hour until I noticed an oily patch exactly as you describe. Rang up Customer Support and they asked me if I had sat on the phone or knocked it in any way.. And this was after having the phone in my possession for 30 minutes HAHA in the end they told me to take the phone to the nearest store to confirm the problem and I got a straight replacement.
I think its caused by a leak in the LCD. You can try, as sugested on other threads to get some tape and try to pull the glass away from the liquid but this would only really be worth trying if your phone was out of manufacturers warranty. Since you have not had your phone long at all you are entitled to a direct replacement under the Sale of Goods Act.
Going back to earlier posts, too much pressure could cause this sort of problem but as stated with a good quality glass which the HD2 has this is very unlikely unless you had an elephant sit on it
More likely the LCD is defective and if the oily patch is noticeble to you then the seller has no other recourse. If I was you I would deal with this matter as soon as possible though so that you get a stisfactory result.
Mark.
Hey guys.
looking at your device, you have the same problem i have on my HTC TOUCH HD, mine had a small point in the middle, and after a few months it become bigger and now my screen wont work properly.
it means when i perss lets say "START" button, it reacts at the X button in the right of the screen.
adter looking over the net and reading about it, i can see a lot of devices from HTC has this problem, guess its a bad building quality who knows.
maybe it got hit a few times at the screen, maybe pressure who knows.
the thing is, CHANGE THE DEVICE before your screen wont react anymore, mine is Resistive screen. so i took a small niddle and lifted the screen from the left (the volume side) and squeezd it a bit, it went out, but a bit more came back after, that means something or some fluid is between tha screen, the Gap maybe i dont know.
ive also tried with a DUCT TAPE - worked for a few minutes than it came back again, but even when the oily part was gone the screen still was reacting not as before.
also there is a bad sound from the place you have the oily part under it' like if you press it with the Stylus or just your finger.
BE CAREFUL with thos devices!
Also ive heard something about PRESSURE differents between cities / countries and simillar can cause the screen defect.
for example - i live NOW in Eilat, its in Israel, and its a very very low place, i go home once a month, to a higher place (300M above), and it happaned since i moved here. it can be one more of the reasons to cause this defect.
well, my device is ruind, it can barely work now sometimes, if i press the screen from all of the sides or lifting it up with a niddle!
and that sucks!
BTW USE YOUR WARRENTY.
dont let HTC run away from their defaults and defects with thos devices, why do we have to pay on their mistakes of not making a good resistance materials for thos devices...its stupid.
specialy when it happanes to a lot of people with the same Devices!
i dont see any APPLE users having thos peoblems with IPOD / IPHONE!
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Hey guys.
looking at your device, you have the same problem i have on my HTC TOUCH HD, mine had a small point in the middle, and after a few months it become bigger and now my screen wont work properly.
it means when i perss lets say "START" button, it reacts at the X button in the right of the screen.
adter looking over the net and reading about it, i can see a lot of devices from HTC has this problem, guess its a bad building quality who knows.
maybe it got hit a few times at the screen, maybe pressure who knows.
the thing is, CHANGE THE DEVICE before your screen wont react anymore, mine is Resistive screen. so i took a small niddle and lifted the screen from the left (the volume side) and squeezd it a bit, it went out, but a bit more came back after, that means something or some fluid is between tha screen, the Gap maybe i dont know.
ive also tried with a DUCT TAPE - worked for a few minutes than it came back again, but even when the oily part was gone the screen still was reacting not as before.
also there is a bad sound from the place you have the oily part under it' like if you press it with the Stylus or just your finger.
BE CAREFUL with thos devices!
Also ive heard something about PRESSURE differents between cities / countries and simillar can cause the screen defect.
for example - i live NOW in Eilat, its in Israel, and its a very very low place, i go home once a month, to a higher place (300M above), and it happaned since i moved here. it can be one more of the reasons to cause this defect.
well, my device is ruind, it can barely work now sometimes, if i press the screen from all of the sides or lifting it up with a niddle!
and that sucks!
BTW USE YOUR WARRENTY.
dont let HTC run away from their defaults and defects with thos devices, why do we have to pay on their mistakes of not making a good resistance materials for thos devices...its stupid.
specialy when it happanes to a lot of people with the same Devices!
i dont see any APPLE users having thos peoblems with IPOD / IPHONE!
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All touchscreens suffer from defects (yes even ipdods and iphones lol). The trick is to send it back the moment you spot it and not sit on it and wait, hoping it will go away. It wont. You can use the tape method to pull the screen away from the bleed but the liquid will still be there and sooner or later it will just come back.
I noticed a bleed on my OLD hermes the day I got it from brand new, rang up the shop (tmobile uk) and they tried to tell me that I must have sat on it or dropped it. Everyone who purchases a device has a right that it will work for a 'reasonable' amount of time without defects appearing so you have to push your rights and get it changed (not fixed) for a new device.
If your device is out of warranty and you have a bleed on the screen the only thing you can really do is change the screen. These can be found on ebay and not that hard to do. For your Touch HD you can get one *HERE* but you have to weigh up whether its cheaper to just buy a new device or fix the one you have.
And I dont really think atmospheric pressure between different places would have any affect as lcd screens are built to work pretty much anywhere and if that was the case every time someone got on a plane their device would go capput.
Mark.
i know! that sounds not reasonable, but i looked at someone's Thread about that he went out of a plane and he noticed a huge spot in the middle of the screen, and few days later after going back on the flight it was gone.
that thing is very strange.
btw thank you for the link..
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i know! that sounds not reasonable, but i looked at someone's Thread about that he went out of a plane and he noticed a huge spot in the middle of the screen, and few days later after going back on the flight it was gone.
that thing is very strange.
btw thank you for the link..
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Ur welcome
Mark.
Got myself a DHD today and a copter for the screen!
But after I carefully attached it to the screen and turned the phone on for the first time, i saw the copter-fluid slowly running over the INSIDE of the screen.
Somehow it had seeped into the tiny cracks around the screen and gotten to the LCD.
The screen has a odd "3d" pattern with dots all over it now and i am quite devastated to see my new phone in this condition :/
I placed it in a small sealed box containing cat-litter and placed the box on a warm place (this was 7 hours ago), but i am not seeing any improvements.
Is the cat-litter enough to remove the water or is there another way to get rid of it. OR am i f*ed?
Hmm, are you sure you actually have a problem?
All DHDs have a "dot pattern", its a regular matrix of dots that is visible at some angles, it is normal.
It's hard to understand exactly what you mean without pictures, but having applied many of the protectors I really dont think you aught to panic
The spots are 3mm large and look a bit like droplets of water (randomly scattered across the screen), there is also "shady" parts around the edge of the screen. And these shades was what i saw growing when I turned on the phone.
I took the phone to the store where I got it and they advised me to get an insurance just in case the fluid screws anything more in the phone.
I will fix some photos tomorrow that shows what it looks like.
This is what it looks like, it is very visible from this angle.
The spot's have actually grown during the night
I keep the phone in a sealed box with a bag of calcium chloride (from a dehumidifier).
Wow. I honestly think you could be able to claim this on the DHD warranty.
I work in an electronics shop, and I apply Copters to peoples' phones regularly, generously using the spray liquid; it really flows all over the place, and I've never ever seen it get under a screen.
You should contact HTC and maybe complain about the lack of proper isolation of the display.
When I put a copter on my DHD the liquid was everywhere, I just mopped it up, sprayed the edges with compressed air and all was well.
I will do that if i dont see any improvements by tomorrow, i turned it on a few minutes ago and saw that the dark spots has grown a bit more.
Do anyone know where the moisture indicators is in the phone?
I found the one at the battery, but it was white.
Update:
The spots have grown even more
Thats why we all shouldnt use protectors that require any fluid to put them on the screen. It looks like digitizer and lcd werent stick properly to each other (as they are sticked) and fluid got into free spaces between layers. Electric toys and fluids based on water dont like each other % fluid are much better for such operations if u realy want to use any fluid to get bubbles off ...
And one more thing about pictures... Ure saing that spots ar growing ... i think they are not growing but fluid is getting off slowly from there and they are rest of it. At start there were only fluid on whole lcd now during getting off it stays only in some places that looks like spots. Leave it for a longer while and they should dissapear (dry completely)
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Have you tried sticking it in a bag of rice and leaving it over night?
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Have you tried sticking it in a bag of rice and leaving it over night?
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Thats very good idea!
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Rather than trying cat litter or rice, by some silica gel, you can get some from eBay, delivered next day.
Seal the phone in a small air tight container, packed with the silica gel and put in a warm place ~30c
If drying is going to help, that will get it dried quickly and thoroughly.
You may have issues with solute residue but good luck!
Thanks for the answers, i have put the phone on top of a bag of calcium chloride (the stuff that is used to dehumidify an entire room).
The spots grow faster when placed with the bag, so the water is probably getting sucked out as you said
Any news? Has it gotten any better?
Well, the spots keep on growing but at least the water is reacting to the calcium chloride.
For some reason it has grown a lot in the lower right part of the screen.
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Well, the spots keep on growing but at least the water is reacting to the calcium chloride.
For some reason it has grown a lot in the lower right part of the screen.
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I would just send it in for warranty. Something looks fishy. Perhaps the courier dropped it in a pond accidentally?
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I would just send it in for warranty. Something looks fishy. Perhaps the courier dropped it in a pond accidentally?
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I dont think the warranty will cover this, since it is probably my fault for not covering up every little gap or crevice on the phone before placing the screen "protection"
Update: the grey "cloud" is slowly covering the lower part of the screen. Something is clearly happening, for better or for worse is the question. :S
It might end up covering the whole screen then you won't even notice it.
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It might end up covering the whole screen then you won't even notice it.
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Half the screen is now grey, at least the spots are less visible ^^
Do you think i can use the phone in the meantime, or should I wait until it is completely dry?
My fingers are itching
Hmm, checked the oven, it can go as low as 35 degrees celcius.
Is that too hot for the phone?
35*c is fine, but you must be careful that the oven is indeed at that temperature!
You shouldn't really be using it (or even have the battery in) whilst it is wet, so i would try and avoid it if i were you