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Ok here is a dumb question. I currently have a G1 under contract and am considering getting a N1. Since I am on a cheap family plan I don't want to get the $80/mo plan that is the only option. It is cheaper for me to pay the $566 (after tax) and get the unsubsidized phone.
However...
I was looking at something today. If I sign up for a new line as a new customer (the family plan is in my wife's name) the phone is $180. Sure I am stuck with the 80/ mo bill. But here is my thought. The phone has a 14 day return policy. After that I am stuck paying the $200 termination fee. It would be cheaper for me to get the phone that way.
I pay $180 (plus tax) + $80 for the first month = $260 Plus taxes
After the 14 day return period call T-mobile, cancel and pay the $200 termination fee.
That would mean the phone would only cost me about $460 (plus taxes) not $566. Then I could just move my sim from my G1 over to the N1 and keep using it.
What am I missing here? It looks like it is a cheaper option to get the same thing. The only thing I can think of missing out on is the insurance. I can't imaging it would do anything with my warranty because I still own it and I am buying from Google.
youre missing the fact that if you cancel your 80$ plan before 120 days, google will charge you the difference between the unsubsidized phone (unless you send the phone back). meaning 529 - 180 = 349$ in addition to the early termination fee and maybe even 80$ for the first month.
Straight from google terms of sale:
Maintaining Carrier Service
If you choose to enroll in a carrier’s wireless service plan, you must agree to the carrier’s terms and conditions, which will be presented during the enrollment process.
If you do not wish to keep the wireless plan, it is your responsibility to contact the carrier to cancel your wireless plan account. You should contact the carrier directly regarding any activation fees, monthly usage costs, taxes, and/or early termination fees that may be owed.
You agree to pay Google an equipment subsidy recovery fee (the "Equipment Recovery Fee") equal to the difference between the full price of the Nexus handheld device without service plan and the price you paid for the Nexus handheld device if you cancel your wireless plan prior to 120 days of continuous wireless service. For example, if the full price of the Nexus handheld device without service plan was $529 USD and the price you paid for the Nexus handheld device was $179 USD with a service plan, the Equipment Recovery Fee you pay will be $350 USD in the event you cancel within the first 120 days of carrier service. The Equipment Recovery Fee is equal to the line item in your confirmation email setting forth the discount on the full priced Nexus handheld device related to your carrier service plan activiation. You authorize Google to charge the Equipment Recovery Fee directly to your credit card, or other payment method used to purchase the Nexus handheld device, upon cancellation of your wireless plan. You will not be charged the Equipment Recovery Fee if you return your Nexus handheld device to Google within the 14 day Return Policy period as set forth below.
You agree that the Equipment Recovery Fee is not a penalty but is for liquidated damages Google will incur as a result of such cancellation. These damages may include, but are not limited to, loss of compensation and administrative costs associated with such cancellation or changing of wireless service provider(s), market changes, and changes in ownership. Please note that the Equipment Recovery Fee is imposed by Google and not your chosen carrier and is in addition to any early termination fees that may be charged by your chosen carrier in connection with termination of your wireless plan prior to fulfillment of your chosen carrier’s service agreement term.
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melterx12 said:
youre missing the fact that if you cancel your 80$ plan before 120 days, google will charge you the difference between the unsubsidized phone (unless you send the phone back). meaning 529 - 180 = 349$ in addition to the early termination fee and maybe even 80$ for the first month.
Straight from google terms of sale:
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OK thanks. I hadn't seen that. I figured I must be missing something in what I was looking at.
I had read the T-mobile Terms and Conditions of Service but didn't see the link for the Google Terms of Sale which was further down on a separate link.
That helps. I couldn't figure out why others hadn't bought their phone in this manner as it would save almost $100. I figured I couldn't be the only one that thought of this. Google thought of it as well. Oh well I will most likely just go with the $566 route. I am just waiting now to find out what I got for a bonus from work.
cheaper way to go
Hey, your absolutely right. I actually did something similar to get the G1 in the begining. The only difference is that if you have a warranty issue that needs replacement you have to ship your phone to the manufacturer direct they will look at it and if the issue isnt caused by the EU then they fix or replace the device. Whole process takes about 5 days. Iff It is an issue that you created they call you with a repair estimate. On the off chance you decide not to fix your phone then they charge you a 28 dollar fee for looking at the phone and return shipping. Hope this was helpful.
Not sure about the subsidized charge. I wasn't charged one.
michael.guildjr said:
Hey, your absolutely right. I actually did something similar to get the G1 in the begining. The only difference is that if you have a warranty issue that needs replacement you have to ship your phone to the manufacturer direct they will look at it and if the issue isnt caused by the EU then they fix or replace the device. Whole process takes about 5 days. Iff It is an issue that you created they call you with a repair estimate. On the off chance you decide not to fix your phone then they charge you a 28 dollar fee for looking at the phone and return shipping. Hope this was helpful.
Not sure about the subsidized charge. I wasn't charged one.
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someone only read the first post ...
I remember when people got up-in-arms over Google charging the subsidy difference alongside the early termination fee. I think it's the only thing they can do that makes sense...
Noob here
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someone only read the first post ...
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yeah.... the only thing I can say about this is that the G1 is made by HTC and not Google so that is why my comment is most probably wrong. I used to work for VZW and T-mo though and know that the Fees that can be charged and the ones that are are not necessarily the same. It does make sense that Google would charge a subsidary though.
ok here goes just bought the phone and got it for $372.00. i checked with t-mobile and google twice. U have to set-up a new line and buy the phone for $179.00 and then cancel with-in 14 days (buyers remorse period). then u keep the phone and pay the new EFT fee of $150.00. the phone comes out to be $372.00 bc those cheap ****s tax you on $529.00 not $179.00. but i have checked with tmobile and google this works i even told them what i was going to do. i am on a family plan but it is in my dads name that is why i am able to setup an account in my name. hope this helps
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ok here goes just bought the phone and got it for $372.00. i checked with t-mobile and google twice. U have to set-up a new line and buy the phone for $179.00 and then cancel with-in 14 days (buyers remorse period). then u keep the phone and pay the new EFT fee of $150.00. the phone comes out to be $372.00 bc those cheap ****s tax you on $529.00 not $179.00. but i have checked with tmobile and google this works i even told them what i was going to do. i am on a family plan but it is in my dads name that is why i am able to setup an account in my name. hope this helps
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You sure you don't have to return the phone to T-Mobile? Subsidized phones have to be returned or the ETF has to be paid to the carrier (plus google's $150 equipment recovery fee) if the contract is canceled. Feel free to try it, but I would suspect you get charged for the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622306
I like how they're "cheap ****s" yet you're the one trying to scam them out of getting the full price of the phone
@seanhassars
Nice! haha
But yeah you won't get the phone for $372. If you could everyone would be doing it. And next time use the search, you'll find plenty more people like yourself.
cymru said:
@seanhassars
Nice! haha
But yeah you won't get the phone for $372. If you could everyone would be doing it. And next time use the search, you'll find plenty more people like yourself.
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Cheap ****s?
Well I just talk to t-mobile once again and they insured me that if i cancel my service within 14 day i will not pay anything. And Google will only charge me the $150 called and made sure of that as well. Also T-mobile noted my account about what is going on. But when i say cheap ****s ha ha i mean you can not upgrade to the phone on a family plan and they are also taxing me on the retail price instead of the purchase price. I will let u guys know what happens
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KROMO50 said:
Well I just talk to t-mobile once again and they insured me that if i cancel my service within 14 day i will not pay anything. And Google will only charge me the $150 called and made sure of that as well. Also T-mobile noted my account about what is going on. But when i say cheap ****s ha ha i mean you can not upgrade to the phone on a family plan and they are also taxing me on the retail price instead of the purchase price. I will let u guys know what happens
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If you said "I plan to get it, then cancel, and then use the phone on my family plan" then that would make sense as they have already been helpful for people who are trying to get these phones on their family plans at less than full price - though I think there are possibly even cheaper ways of doing it that don't involve paying another $150 to Google.
If you said "If I cancel within 14 days will I pay anything?" then they may have said "No" assuming that you would be returning the phone to google which are the standard terms of cancelling under the buyer's remorse clause.
But, did you call T-Mobile and say "I am going to order this phone, then cancel the contract within 14 days and I will *not* be returning the phone to Google"? If so, then they should have told you that they will charge the $200 unless you return the phone.
The entire reason Google dropped the "equipment recovery fee" from $350 to $150 was because of this $200 that T-Mobile collects from you. You can avoid both by returning the phone within 14 days. You can avoid neither by cancelling and keeping the phone, no matter what the time frame is.
Hey flarbear i told tmobile that i am not returning the phone, and they said that they have nothing to do with the phone bc i bought it form Google not them. I mean i have called them 4 times to make sure of this. I don't understand why everyone on this site is getting mad about this if this works it is good for all. also in the term of sale it says to connect the provider to get their termination fee and i am going by that.
I got mine for $330 because I have my own plan and don't live off my parents.
Just saying, what you're planning on doing constitutes fraud. Something that is a rather serious offense, and if found out could lead to much more than that extra ~$140 that you're "saving". Also, as part of buyers remorse, you must return the phone in order to qualify. And even if Tmo isn't selling you the phone directly, a partner is. And since Tmo is the subsidized partner, they're even more willing to charge you extra fees since they make money off the fees and plans, not the phones.
On a different note, if they are truly, without confusion, maliciously deceiving you, then its a whole different ball game.
ps. Your horrific English may have also confused them.
Actually its not fraud. Everything he is doing is totally legal.
It may be against the spirit of the deal google/T-Mobile are offering, but there is absolutely nothing illegal about it. Which part would you say is illegal and which law specifically would relate to it?
It would be fraud if he were buying the phone and saying it was stolen when it wasnt. I would be fraud if he lied to T-Mobile and said that the phone was broken and that's why he is cancelling. In this case he has a right to pay the ETF and terminate early as per the terms of the sale. He is not obligated to disclose why, or even enter into the sale more inclined to keep it than not.
Google charges you a recovery fee if you don't return the phone. That brings you above the price of buying it unsubsidized.
I assume you'll be cancelling your credit card or whatever payment you made with it.
Way to go thief.
google's terms of sale said:
For example, if the full price of the Nexus handheld device without service plan was $529 USD and the price you paid for the Nexus handheld device was $179 USD with a service plan, the Equipment Recovery Fee you pay will be $350 USD in the event you cancel within the first 120 days of carrier service.
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179 + 350 = 529
Then you have t-mobile fees for not returning your device after being "unsatisfied".
tmobile said:
4. Cancellation and Returns. You can cancel your Service without paying an Early Termination Fee if you cancel WITHIN 14 DAYS of activating a new line of Service (30 days if you activate in California; other states may differ "“ ask your sales representative) ("œReturn Period"). You remain responsible to pay for the Service and all charges, fees and taxes incurred through the date of cancellation. To cancel during the Return Period, you must return to the store where you activated (or, if purchased online or by phone, follow the return instructions in the package), and return any Device you acquired at the time of activation. To receive a refund of the purchase price of your Device (less rebates received and shipping costs), you must return it (with original packaging and all contents) within the Return Period in undamaged condition and good working order to the place of purchase. You may be required to pay a restocking fee. If you do not comply with store policy, we may elect not to process your Service cancellation or you may be charged the suggested retail price of the Device, (which may be greater than the price you paid), plus any shipping and handling charges. If you activated your Service through an authorized T-Mobile dealer, the dealer"™s return policy may differ from T-Mobile"™s policies.
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Techinally both t-mobile AND google can come after you for the full price of the phone, meaning 529 x2.
Matter of fact, I encourage you to attemp this little theft, I'd love to see real world repercussions.
KROMO50 said:
Well I just talk to t-mobile once again and they insured me that if i cancel my service within 14 day i will not pay anything. And Google will only charge me the $150 called and made sure of that as well. Also T-mobile noted my account about what is going on. But when i say cheap ****s ha ha i mean you can not upgrade to the phone on a family plan and they are also taxing me on the retail price instead of the purchase price. I will let u guys know what happens
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t mobile nor google has any say so on how much tax they want to charge you
I don't understand why you guys are getting mad and attacking his character when you have a problem with his method. He is trying to test out a potential loophole. That is not illegal or fraud, just trying to beat the system.
we have these things called casinos for such endeavors..
While I find the action morally questionable at best, given the changes in Google's terms of sale for the Nexus One it would probably work. You are entering a contract with a premeditated plan to immediately break it to your benefit. It is at the very least a violation of good faith terms but this may or may not be actionable. Even if it is actionable the chances of either party (T-Mo or Google) bothering is not high.
Prior to the changing of the wording there was little doubt you would pay the full price, but they changed the terms due to the outrage at the "double dipping" return fee.
I have no issue with the OP, I just found it rather ironic considering the thread topic that he was upset google had the audactiy to charge him tax on the full retail price and that they were being cheap. I still don't think this would work considering the whole google "if you change/cancel your plan within 120 days you'll be charged the full price of the phone" deal, but if they've changed the wording I say go for it and be the guinea pig.
muncheese said:
Google charges you a recovery fee if you don't return the phone. That brings you above the price of buying it unsubsidized.
179 + 350 = 529
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You should look into this again. Google lowered this fee from the original $350 down to $150. When it was at $350 it was obvious that you would be paying more, but now that they have it at $150 it is no longer so obvious.
Can someone explain the difference between Sprint's ERP, ESRP, and TEP?
I called and asked Sprint, but I think we both got confused. From what I gather:
ERP (Equipment Replacement Program) - $4.00/mnth covers pretty much everything with a 100.00 deductible on smartphones.
ESRP (Equipment Service Replacement Program) - $4.00/mnth covers basically what ERP does?
TEP (Total Equipment Protection) - $7.00/mnth covers ERP and ESRP
What do you recommend? I'm leaning towards ERP (4.00), we currently don't have insurance on our iphones (att doesn't provide it), but would like it. Just don't want to spend 7.00 each line for no good reason.
Also there is Squaretrade for $144.00 for 2 years or $6.00mnth (probably less with coupons).
jeffla said:
Can someone explain the difference between Sprint's ERP, ESRP, and TEP?
I called and asked Sprint, but I think we both got confused. From what I gather:
ERP (Equipment Replacement Program) - $4.00/mnth covers pretty much everything with a 100.00 deductible on smartphones.
ESRP (Equipment Service Replacement Program) - $4.00/mnth covers basically what ERP does?
TEP (Total Equipment Protection) - $7.00/mnth covers ERP and ESRP
What do you recommend? I'm leaning towards ERP (4.00), we currently don't have insurance on our iphones (att doesn't provide it), but would like it. Just don't want to spend 7.00 each line for no good reason.
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Get it belive me you will need it when you loose your phone belive meee
daniel0260 said:
Get it belive me you will need it when you loose your phone belive meee
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I pay $7 a month for TEP and I love it, peace of mind, especially with a pricey device like the evo
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I pay $7 a month for TEP and I love it, peace of mind, especially with a pricey device like the evo
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Why TEP and not just ERP? What advantage does TEP have over ERP?
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Why TEP and not just ERP? What advantage does TEP have over ERP?
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TEP covers pretty much everything. Notably, loss, theft and H20 damage. The other two plans are not as inclusive.
Equipment Replacement Program:
Insurance coverage for lost, stolen or physically damaged devices.
$50 non-refundable deductible applies per approved replacement
For full terms and conditions, see the Coverage Certificate
Equipment Service and Repair Program:
Provides coverage for mechanical or electrical failure, routine maintenance or failure from normal wear and tear.
No additional out-of-pocket charges to repair or replace your malfunctioning device
Over 1,800 Sprint Phone Repair Centers available to repair or replace your device. Visit www.sprint.com/storelocator for the nearest location.
For full terms and conditions, see the Service Contract
TEP is both of those put together, for $1 less a month than paying for both separately. (If you want to go read the full T+C, google "sprint insurance" and it will be first or second listed )
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TEP covers pretty much everything. Notably, loss, theft and H20 damage. The other two plans are not as inclusive.
Equipment Replacement Program:
Insurance coverage for lost, stolen or physically damaged devices.
$50 non-refundable deductible applies per approved replacement
For full terms and conditions, see the Coverage Certificate
Equipment Service and Repair Program:
Provides coverage for mechanical or electrical failure, routine maintenance or failure from normal wear and tear.
No additional out-of-pocket charges to repair or replace your malfunctioning device
Over 1,800 Sprint Phone Repair Centers available to repair or replace your device. Visit www.sprint.com/storelocator for the nearest location.
For full terms and conditions, see the Service Contract
TEP is both of those put together, for $1 less a month than paying for both separately. (If you want to go read the full T+C, google "sprint insurance" and it will be first or second listed )
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I finally understand. Thanks, now it's time to decide what level of risk I want to take. ERP has a deductible, and ESRP does not basically. I think since we don't have insurance on our iphones and all has been well for almost 2 years, I think the ERP will be just fine.
They all have deductibles right? I am thinking of the Best Buy plan at 10$ a month since it has hardcore coverage and no deductibles.
setite said:
They all have deductibles right? I am thinking of the Best Buy plan at 10$ a month since it has hardcore coverage and no deductibles.
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If you have sprint's ESRP then no (I think), but if you have ERP then yes, 50-100.00. If you have TEP, then yes if you damaged your phone/lost it... but no if it just stopped working.
Well that's what I think this all means. Sprint really needs to simply its insurance plans. Maybe just offer 1, not 3 plans.
if you bring a phone in and you have TEP or ESRP, and it is not lost or stolen or you ran it over with your car (i.e. normal wear and tear), then you don't pay a deductible. even if you have TEP, the deductible only applies if it falls into the category covered by ERP.
I think that Sprint insurance is b.s ..I have tep pay $7 and just bought my hero on march beatbuy offered the $6 a month if they can't fix it ,they give u a new device.my hero went bad last Wednesday thursday I took it to sprint repair center they couldn't fix it.so I get a refurbished right away when they handed to me I noticed power button don't work,they ordered another refurbished for sat,so another 8 miles of driving to pick it up and its another refurbished that is all scuffed up audio jack is messed up .so if I just bought my hero 2 months ago why did I kept ok getting refurbished devices they said its policy.well after calling like 20 times customer service speaking with reps,managers,supervisors I got a brand new hero, when I could of just bought the best buy insurance..with evo am getting the best buy insurance
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I think that Sprint insurance is b.s ..I have tep pay $7 and just bought my hero on march beatbuy offered the $6 a month if they can't fix it ,they give u a new device.my hero went bad last Wednesday thursday I took it to sprint repair center they couldn't fix it.so I get a refurbished right away when they handed to me I noticed power button don't work,they ordered another refurbished for sat,so another 8 miles of driving to pick it up and its another refurbished that is all scuffed up audio jack is messed up .so if I just bought my hero 2 months ago why did I kept ok getting refurbished devices they said its policy.well after calling like 20 times customer service speaking with reps,managers,supervisors I got a brand new hero, when I could of just bought the best buy insurance..with evo am getting the best buy insurance
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Thank you for posting this experience. This is what I hate about the warranty on my Amazon Kindle. I had a Kindle that died in 11th month. They sent me a refurb that looked good, but died in the 100th day . I have another refurb that I hope doesn't die right after the warranty. The worst for Kindle is that the refurbs have 3 month warranties instead of 12 months. I guess I will pay the extra 3$ for the BB insurance then.
Isurance with upgrade
I know when you sign a 2 year contract you have to say if your want an insurance plan or not. Well I have one on my Hero and want to buy an EVO full out. Will I still have insurance on my EVO?
yes, once you have insurance on your account, any phone you add to the account then gets covered. even if you bought a use POS phone off ebay and added it to your account, it would be covered. there is a 2wk period after adding a phone where it can't be used.
so with TEP is there a deductible? I am confused... sorry..
I want to ask a question about the insurance company that works with sprint. Anybody that knows them well plz PM me. Its not a question I want to ask out in public...
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so with TEP is there a deductible? I am confused... sorry..
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If you have TEP, you only pay a deductable while filing a claim under the ERP portion. The ESRP portion has no deductable. So basicaly you will pay 50-100.00 if you break you phone, get water damage, lost or it was stolen.(ERP coverage) If it stops working throught no fault of your own, then there is no deductable. (ESRP) Buy both ERP & ESRP = TEP
I know, I know, their insurance options are confusing. If we decide to get the Evo, we will get the ERP insurance for $4.00mnth
So why not just go with ERP and no matter what happens, "I lost my phone"
seems pretty easy.. I was thinking of TEP but honestly, Ill pay the 50.00 for deductible..
Something seems off.. why would anyone want anything higher than ERP?
joey3002 said:
So why not just go with ERP and no matter what happens, "I lost my phone"
seems pretty easy.. I was thinking of TEP but honestly, Ill pay the 50.00 for deductible..
Something seems off.. why would anyone want anything higher than ERP?
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I agree. But, with ESRP or TEP, you would pay 0 if your phone died from no fault of your own. But if you only had ERP and your phone died because of no fault of your own, you could say lost it, but you'd have to pay 50-100.00 dollars. So like all insurance, it comes down to the amount of risk your willing to assume. For example, I have 500.00 deductables on our cars, but someone else might think 250.00 is better. When I was 20, I had 1000.00 deductables.
If we switch to sprint, we'll get ERP. In the last 3 years with our iPhones, we have never needed insurance. So paying $7.00 dollars a month for TEP seems like too much, ERP for 4.00 is fine. I'm willing to pay 50-100.00 IF I ever need it.
is good if u dont mind going thru the hassle of them not having ur replacement at the repair center,or if u dont mind making a couple of trips if the refurbished phone u get is not a 100% hardware condition,,i made like 4 trips to the repair center and i just bought my hero on march my phone went bad and i got a replacement(refurbished) that power button didnt work and than another one 3 days later that was all scuffed up with paint chipping and 2345 calls mnftcre on 10\12\10 and paying $7 after 4 years .when best buy offered me a $6 equipment protection and if they cant fix it u get a brand new device...so i think is bs.,when i get my evo i will get the bestbuy insurance ...
sorry 10\12\2009
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is good if u dont mind going thru the hassle of them not having ur replacement at the repair center,or if u dont mind making a couple of trips if the refurbished phone u get is not a 100% hardware condition,,i made like 4 trips to the repair center and i just bought my hero on march my phone went bad and i got a replacement(refurbished) that power button didnt work and than another one 3 days later that was all scuffed up with paint chipping and 2345 calls mnftcre on 10\12\10 and paying $7 after 4 years .when best buy offered me a $6 equipment protection and if they cant fix it u get a brand new device...so i think is bs.,when i get my evo i will get the bestbuy insurance ...
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DEACTIVATING THIS PHONE OR DOWNGRADING FEATURES OR RATE PLAN MAY LEAD TO ADDITIONAL CHARGES
To provide you with significant savings vs. buying in a retail store, the price you paid for your device includes an Instant Savings Discount from this authorized retailer.
By accepting this Instant Savings Discount, you agree to repay $200 of this discount ($300 for smartphones and netbooks) and authorize us to charge your credit card in repayment of this amount if, during the 181 days after your new equipment is activated, T-Mobile notifies us that the services you purchased have been suspended, disconnected, or deactivated, or if you return your purchase outside of the return and exchange provisions of our 30-day Satisfaction Guarantee.
Please note some of the reasons T-Mobile may notify us of a deactivation include if:
You transfer this equipment to another T-Mobile line of service after it is activated
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The only reason you would ever have to worry about this is if you did something stupid like remove your data plan! I'm a RadioShack associate, and my store's wireless specialist,and our T-Mobile offers never require anything but the data plan,so there's nothing to worry about!
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This is really nothing new, 3rd party "authorized resellers" quite often have always had clauses like this in their contracts. Basically it gives them a means to recoup their lost commissions or other costs if you bail out.
If you go though an authorized reseller your bound not only to tmobile's service contract, but whatever that authorized reseller may bind you to as well. Always read what you're signing.
I remember the 1st cell phone i got long ago though an authorized reseller had something in the contract that if you canceled service and did not return the phone to them, not only would you have to cover tmobile's ETF, you would owe the authorized reseller something like $200 for the phone.
All true, but there's still some users who have been using "the shack" and other 3rd-party retailers (like walmart) to try to get around cancellation fees, etc...because they believe they're not subject to what's mentioned in the OP here.
This would probably help more people if it were posted in egzthunder's sticky thread at the top of this section, where this type of thing is being discussed.
How does sprints replacement phone policy work?
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Sprint 30-day Return and Exchange Policy
We are committed to making sure you are satisfied with your purchase. We will gladly accept returns and exchanges on merchandise purchased directly from Sprint. If you're not completely satisfied, simply return your undamaged device and deactivate service within 30 days in accordance with our Sprint Free Guarantee or Sprint 30-day Satisfaction Guarantee. Please note that this policy may not reflect the policies of our authorized 3rd-party dealers or retailers.
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For new customers and customers adding new lines of service
We love and believe in our products and services. We’re confident you will too. That’s why, as a new customer or an existing customer adding a new line of service we’ll give you 30 days to try us for free.
If for any reason you’re not happy and want to cancel service, just call us to deactivate and return to the original place of purchase to return your undamaged phone or mobile broadband card and we’ll:
Refund monthly charges incurred as part of your service plan*
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Waive the restocking fee
Refund taxes and Sprint surcharges associated with the above charges
*You'll be responsible for extras like usage not included in your plan (i.e. charges for exceeding your Anytime Minute or Data allowance on your voice or data plan; voice, text or data usage not included in your plan or add-on; pay-as-you go charges, etc.), premium content (i.e. digital downloads, songs, games, applications, etc.), 3rd-party billing, international charges and any taxes and Sprint surcharges associated with such extras.
*Please note: If you do not return your device within 15 days of deactivating service, a $200 Early Termination Fee will be applied to your account.
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Sprint 30-day Satisfaction Guarantee
For existing customers upgrading devices; new customers wanting to exchange devices and accessory purchases
So you just traded in your old Sprint device for a brand new one and … it’s not quite what you expected. Too big. Too small. Not quite the right color red.
No sweat. You’ve got options. As long as you’re within the first 30 days of owning your new device or accessory, the Sprint 30-day Satisfaction Guarantee lets you either exchange your device for a different one or return it for a refund.
Exchange it for a different one. Just bring it back to the original point of purchase and we’ll help you find a device or accessory that better meets your needs.
Return it for a refund and re-activate your old one. Want to go back to your old phone and plan? No problem, you can select the best plan to you from our current price plan options. (Your previous service plan may no longer be available to you).
Simply return or exchange your device or accessory (in its original condition) within 30 days with the original receipt. When you return or exchange your device, we’ll refund your activation fee. However; in most situations, a $35 restocking fee will be charged. If your new plan doesn’t meet your needs, you can select from our current price plan options available. (Your previous service plan may no longer be available to you). We will remove any credits or discounts received in exchange for your new contract term and restore you to your previous contract term and service plan (if available).*
*Please note: The terms and conditions of your previous contract will apply including, but not limited to, your contract end date or term. If you terminate your contract before the end of your term, you'll need to pay any applicable Early Termination Fee up to $200.
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Equipment/Accessory Refunds
If your equipment return qualifies for a refund under the Sprint Free Guarantee or the Sprint 30-day Satisfaction Guarantee, you will receive the amount you paid for the device plus any taxes. Your refund may exclude any instant discounts received at purchase or charges for shipping or deposit.
If you paid in cash, we will refund in cash up to $175 at a Sprint store. For refunds greater than $175, we will issue a check within 14 business days.
If you paid by check, we will issue a check within 14 business days after your check clears.
If your account was billed, we'll credit the amount back to that account within 10 business days from receipt of the equipment at our warehouse. The device credit will appear on your next one to two billing statements based on the timing of your billing cycle.
Service Refunds
If you are eligible for a refund of service fees under the Sprint Free Guarantee, your refund will appear on your invoice within three billing cycles of canceling service.
Other Limitations and Fees
You may exchange an item only once during the initial 30-day period. An exchange does not extend the 30-day period.
Sprint reserves the right to deny service to prevent multiple returns under the Sprint Free Guarantee
If you cancel service within 30 days of activation, you are required to return your device and will no longer be eligible for any associated mail-in rebates.
If you do not return your device within 30 days of deactivation, you will be charged an Early Termination Fee of up to $200.
Replacement devices provided as part of an advanced exchange that are not returned within 10 days of receipt of the replacement equipment may be subject to an equipment non-return fee of up to $500.
For any devices or accessories purchased through a Buy One, Get One (BOGO) offer, all devices or accessories purchased must be returned/exchanged to receive a refund or comparable exchange. Each upgraded device exchanged may be subject to the $35 restocking fee, except where prohibited.
Replacements and Repair
If you are exchanging a replacement device provided to you by Sprint and not through Asurion or another 3rd party, call the following numbers for exchange: Sprint devices (888-211-4727 or *2); Nextel devices (800-639-6111); PowerSource devices (866-398-0455).
If you received a replacement device through our Total Equipment Protection Program, your device may be eligible for exchange if defective by contacting Asurion at 800-584-3666.
Find more information regarding Phone Repair and Protection here.
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I meant like if I have a light leakage and I need to get my phone replaced and I'm not in the 30 days
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Try going to a Sprint store and showing them the phone. They may give you a replacement even if you don't have insurance. I just got my replacement handset yesterday. I brought my phone in on Monday due to water stains on the screen when I installed a screen protector. I was told it wouldn't be covered, but I decided to try my local Sprint store anyways. I showed the guy working there and told him I didn't have insurance, but he ordered me a replacement and all I had to do was pay the $35 "repair fee" even though he never even opened the phone.
Would they let me get a different phone
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Maybe. They gave me a different phone. I just unrooted before I gave them back my old phone.
lovespancakes96 said:
I meant like if I have a light leakage and I need to get my phone replaced and I'm not in the 30 days
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Sorry , tour question originally was very unspecified . Ok so yes as it has been stated take it to a sprint store, but if you don't like what they say then just go to another because there is no consistency among stores.
Take it to a sprint store, make sure the phone is NOT rooted. Tell them the problem, which if it is light leakage, thats a hardware problem, and is covered under the 1 year warranty. If they try to tell you anything different, ask to talk to a manager, and tell them you want it replaced under the 1 year warranty.
No, you will not get a different model phone. Yes, you may get a refurb evo, actually there is a 95% chance you will get a refurb.