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Why wont anyone answer this question??? SMS Problem!

Ive seen this question asked several times during my search for the answer, but no one ever replies to it....
Since the upgrade WM6, the Reciepients name in the "to:" field within any new message will not auto complete...
I always have to fill in the number, or their name and select 'Check Names' in the menu and then choose my selection.
PLEASE will SOMEONE tell me the reg entry i need to alter, or the cab i need to (re)install to fix this chink in my BA's armour....
Many thanks in advance.
Dickie.
o2 XDA IIs -- UK -- WM6 by Helmi

dickie2007 said:
Ive seen this question asked several times during my search for the answer, but no one ever replies to it....
Since the upgrade WM6, the Reciepients name in the "to:" field within any new message will not auto complete...
I always have to fill in the number, or their name and select 'Check Names' in the menu and then choose my selection.
PLEASE will SOMEONE tell me the reg entry i need to alter, or the cab i need to (re)install to fix this chink in my BA's armour....
Many thanks in advance.
Dickie.
o2 XDA IIs -- UK -- WM6 by Helmi
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No one has answered this question cause probably no one has faced this problem after upgrading to WM6. I just now checked by creating new Text Message and when I hit at "To:", it opens up my contact list and I can pickup any number.

I know others have faced this problem 'cos several other people are asking for soloutions to the exact same issue, they just never recieved replies...
Also, yes mine works when i click the 'to:' button aswell, but it should predict the recipients name as you type it.
there are users on several platforms, not just BA, running WM6 roms with this exact same issue...
C'mon guys, PLEASE HELP!
Dickie

May be I dont understand your question!!
When I type "a" in the space, list of all names starting with 'a' opens up and gets shorter and shorter as I type more letters. What else do you expect it to do?

dickie2007 said:
Ive seen this question asked several times during my search for the answer, but no one ever replies to it....
Since the upgrade WM6, the Reciepients name in the "to:" field within any new message will not auto complete...
I always have to fill in the number, or their name and select 'Check Names' in the menu and then choose my selection.
PLEASE will SOMEONE tell me the reg entry i need to alter, or the cab i need to (re)install to fix this chink in my BA's armour....
Many thanks in advance.
Dickie.
o2 XDA IIs -- UK -- WM6 by Helmi
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Hi, just for ur info, the "to:" u mentioned is a button. Just double click it and the contact list will appear.
Good day,
Anth

Anth said:
Hi, just for ur info, the "to:" u mentioned is a button. Just double click it and the contact list will appear.
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i know, its the same on mine. but if i type any letter, i dont get a list of possible matches, as April 1 just described:
April 1 said:
When I type "a" in the space, list of all names starting with 'a' opens up and gets shorter and shorter as I type more letters
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This is EXACTLY whats not working! this 'auto complete' function has stopped since the WM6 upgrade...

hey, i got the same issue also..
when i typed "A" in the recipient it dont auto complete with "a" contacts.
my solution is :-> type "a+space" then delete the space, the auto complete will come out with the "a" contact listings. hope it helps.. =D

I have always found it faster just to click on the to button and let that do the auto complete. I seem to always select the wrong contact with the auto complete in the actual message.

do you have other then English language support on your device?
I have Hebrew support, I have to type the first two letters and delete the last one -> then it source according to the first letter

SMS works fine for me but MMS doesn't do the predictive contact call up and it is a pain in the arse.
Not a big problem but a pain in the arse nonetheless.

did you install "htc dual keyboard + keypad". I installed this app, and the predictive contact search stop working on sms. After uninstallation, its working again.
as with mms, i dont think it has ever worked since 2003SE. you have to click "to:" and search within the contact list.

the answer to your proplem is :
this is because the contact are not stored in your PIM database, but on the SIM card, that is why they are not predicable but they can be accessed by pressing on the "to" button.
solution: use sim manager to save contacts to the phonebook
hope u find it helpful

that is what i was gonna say "life owner" you are correct according to the problem i had

life owner said:
the answer to your proplem is :
this is because the contact are not stored in your PIM database, but on the SIM card, that is why they are not predicable but they can be accessed by pressing on the "to" button.
solution: use sim manager to save contacts to the phonebook
hope u find it helpful
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i will NOT do that if i were you...
that would only make the predictive list double the names you have...
(Or you could delete the contacts in your simcard after you copied)
if you played with the options
in the Settings->Input->Word Completion.
i would suggest a hard reset
if you did the above and no changes was reflected.

B3nGz said:
hey, i got the same issue also..
when i typed "A" in the recipient it dont auto complete with "a" contacts.
my solution is :-> type "a+space" then delete the space, the auto complete will come out with the "a" contact listings. hope it helps.. =D
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thank god, someone agreeing this issues does exist and its not something i'm doing...
Although, typing a space after the first character, then deleting it does not bring up the auto complete.
But.. i did install "htc dual keyboard + keypad", which i will remove now to see if functionality returns..
Also.. my contacts are stored on the Phone, not the sim.
Cheers for your suggestions guys, i'll keep u updated...
Dickie
UPDATE - Removed "htc dual keyboard + keypad" and functionality is restored.... what exactly does this program do? if its supposed to skin the touch screen keyboard, it never worked for me anyway...
Cheers Guys!

dickie2007 said:
thank god, someone agreeing this issues does exist and its not something i'm doing...
Although, typing a space after the first character, then deleting it does not bring up the auto complete.
But.. i did install "htc dual keyboard + keypad", which i will remove now to see if functionality returns..
Also.. my contacts are stored on the Phone, not the sim.
Cheers for your suggestions guys, i'll keep u updated...
Dickie
UPDATE - Removed "htc dual keyboard + keypad" and functionality is restored.... what exactly does this program do? if its supposed to skin the touch screen keyboard, it never worked for me anyway...
Cheers Guys!
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"htc dual keyboard + keypad" give you big numbers and letters button (the idea is to allow you not to use stylus and use your thumb to type) AND it also give predictive english words feature.. and i guess it cannot co exist with the predictive contact feature of sms... i guess this is the most logical explanation... for me anyway

actually it's not an issue regarding auto-complete...
htc dual keyboard+keypad is filtering your input and displays it's own "one-liner" prediction and thus the default system Auto Word Completion doesnt kick in.
and it doesnt matter to the default auto-complete if it's in the phone or in the sim card... if you have two copies of one item... it will list double.
it's not an SMS problem... it's a program glitch(feature?). haha...

Hi I have the same problem.
i removed htc dual keyboard and its still not working!
do i need to enable some options some wherE?
Thanks

try to do what silver samurai suggested, the setting may have been changed:
start > settings > personal > input > word completion > place a tick mark on "suggest words when entering text"

I tried that and it didn't work.
Thanks

Touch-it 4.4

I have tried to search with no luck. My question is when i installed touchit 4.4 i do not have any of the pop up menu's IE when making a text and i start typing the persons name or a word it never pops up suggestions. With over 200 contacts i would like to have the short option to type in 3 letters or so and select the contact from the actual Sms screen. Another thing is when i goto create new (msg) i dont get the option to do MMS or SMS. Lastly off the top of my head when i am typing words i like the option with suggestions again. Can anybody either point me to the proper settings or registry keys to re-enable these features. Also i noticed when i put touch it on my phone all of my contacts are doubled now ? how can i fix this without manually deleting them all
Tmo With wings
touch it 4.4
duprades kb fix

diabolical28 said:
I have tried to search with no luck. My question is when i installed touchit 4.4 i do not have any of the pop up menu's IE when making a text and i start typing the persons name or a word it never pops up suggestions. With over 200 contacts i would like to have the short option to type in 3 letters or so and select the contact from the actual Sms screen. Another thing is when i goto create new (msg) i dont get the option to do MMS or SMS. Lastly off the top of my head when i am typing words i like the option with suggestions again. Can anybody either point me to the proper settings or registry keys to re-enable these features. Also i noticed when i put touch it on my phone all of my contacts are doubled now ? how can i fix this without manually deleting them all
Tmo With wings
touch it 4.4
duprades kb fix
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1. I havent seached for a fix as far as typing input for SMS recipients, I have just gotten use to clicking menu and adding someone from my contacts instead of typing there name.
2. If you put messaging on your today screen, click on the no unread messages bar and it will take you to the messaging center to pick MMS,SMS, email account.
3. I did think the wings OEM text suggestion program was great, Ive gotten use to not using it with 4.4. Tho if you use the virtual keyboard the program is still enabled.
I dont know if any of this will be a fix for you, it is alil info. There might be things you have to get use to not having with Touch, but be glad you have more than 14mb of memory.
Also, for the duplicate contacts, I would just make sure all your numbers are embedded on your sim card, then select all from your contacts and delete them. Open SIM manager from programs, select all from menu and save all to contacts.

Yes true maybe someone can find the registry keys to enable it, Speaking of registry besides the lame attempt at wiki of a good solid registry hack,tweak mod guide does anybody have a better site while i was Out of town visiting over xmas i stumbled accross a site that offered so many registry hacks but i didnt book mark it
Also a few more questions i get really mad that the Wing does not allow lets say .mid .gif etc files in MMS's is there a way to disable automatic file deletion in mms? sorry if this doesnt make much sense just worked 14 hrs.

you can just write your contact's name (or part of their name) and then go to "menu" and click on "check names".
This should be easier than going through your contacts.

jkrn2003 said:
you can just write your contact's name (or part of their name) and then go to "menu" and click on "check names".
This should be easier than going through your contacts.
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typing a name and then going thru menu is more steps than just clicking add recipent and clicking the contact you want.
I dont know any other registry sites.
Good Luck

New SMS notifications - won't disappear

Im sorry if this has already been discussed but i couldnt put into words really for a search criteria, im sure im not the only person with this problem.
When an SMS arrives a little green 1 will show by the "letter" on touchFLO 3d, sometimes when you scroll to read the message the little green 1 (or 2 or whatever) doesnt disappear and i have to keep clicking the mail icon, or go into the WM6 message inbox to change it from "New" to "Read".
I think it happens with the email part too, not just SMS.
Anyone know how to solve this, it's as annoying as thrush.
Sorry about my punctuation, i'm from Wales, hehe

chaosxq said:
Im sorry if this has already been discussed but i couldnt put into words really for a search criteria, im sure im not the only person with this problem.
When an SMS arrives a little green 1 will show by the "letter" on touchFLO 3d, sometimes when you scroll to read the message the little green 1 (or 2 or whatever) doesnt disappear and i have to keep clicking the mail icon, or go into the WM6 message inbox to change it from "New" to "Read".
I think it happens with the email part too, not just SMS.
Anyone know how to solve this, it's as annoying as thrush.
Sorry about my punctuation, i'm from Wales, hehe
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Thrush !
It's annoyingly slow to register as read... there may be a registry tweak but a search revealed nothing yet

Thats a Shame I really thought someone else would have susses this with all the tweaks and tidbits.

I am having the same problem but with the email notification. Anyone have any ideas?

I have the same pb any suggestion?

Just try to click on the message and it will be open in the text mode and then close it.

I guess what the last post suggests doesn't work for the OP, at least it doesn't work for me. None of my messages are highlighted as 'unread', yet the 'unread SMS' notification at in TouchFlo doesn't disappear.
Anyone has any idea how to get rid of it ?
Thanks

Have the same problem with email...stuck at 2 even thouch all mails have been deleted or read.
Thanks
Woon

May I ask if deleting the account itself remove the erroneous counter?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=464695
ResetUnreadCount.cab

Guys,
Check your Outlook inbox to make sure there is no unread mails there. The TF3D does not show the Outlook account but the counter in the mail tab does.
I solved my problem that way.

eaglesteve said:
Guys,
Check your Outlook inbox to make sure there is no unread mails there. The TF3D does not show the Outlook account but the counter in the mail tab does.
I solved my problem that way.
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Yep, that was it.

rhtizzy said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=464695
ResetUnreadCount.cab
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excellent, that worked. many thanks !

You're welcome, this place is a plethora of knowledge.

unfortunately it turns out the cab works only until i recieve a new message, after that the '1 unread message' notification appears again and stays even after i've read the new message.... so i'm back to where I started.
still thanks for the help. any other ideas ?

came across this bit of software but don't know whether it'll act any different from the cab.
Have you looked through every folder in the account-tree yet? Make sure they're all being synchronised as some Imap\webmail accounts can act funny (Inbox\Menu\Tools\Manage folders).
But perhaps the only thing left is to backup and hard reset (without backing up the mailfolders of course)? And otherwise it means executing the cab every time it happens again..

SMS/Emails (Where are the icon indications)

Hi all, did a quick search to find nothing related to the below:
I am having hard time knowing which SMS I have replied, or which email I have forwarded.
The icon in the inbox never changes, only an unread messages becomes read but no indication if it has been replied or forwarded.
If anyone could advice or point me to the right direction please, many thanks.

Did you try HD Tweak?
I think you can set what you want using this app.

SMS / Email Icon.
Hi GoldCoin, I have checked HD Tweak and found that you can get sent notifications although this is not necessary.
What I meant was, when you reply to a SMS the icon in the inbox should change. An example, you can go to your hotmail account and reply to an e-mail or forward and you will notice the envelope gets marked that it has been replied/forwarded too.
I have attached an example of the icons.

I hear you...
I'm looking for the same feature.
I recently changed from 6.1 to 6.5 on my diamond, don't remember the name of that rom. But i actually had the feature.
However i've now changed to a different 6.5 (lower mem. usage), and it doesn't have the feature, i'd be very happy to hear from anyone who knows the solution. Will keep investigating myself though

Ironic, it's a business phone and they forgot the icons. Work around, I have added 2 additional folder in my email inbox: Replied and Review. Once I have replied an e-mail I move the message to Replied folder, that way I can track which ones I have left to reply. Other e-mails that need reviewing goes into the Review folder which I usually access through the PC due to it either being a large excel/presentation or just a forwarded email.

Hmm, you're right.
I could have sworn that my original stock ROM had those little icons. I think it was the same envelope icon with a little green arrow on it.
I'm now using Dutty's 3.7 XT ROM and all the icons (in the windows sms application) are the same.
Does anyone else also remember that icon I described, or am I just imagening things?

One thing I do notice is in the SMS/MMS inbox.
If you have it set up to "threaded view", then in the list of messages in the inbox, it will show a short preview of the last message in the thread. If you wrote the last message, then the preview starts with "Me:". That's a quick way to know if you responded to a given text message.
However, the problem still remains when using emails.
I hope someone can figure this one out.

I had the feature in a ROM cooked by someone from xda-dev, don't remember which one though, I still have the ROM somewhere on my computer, and I'm trying to locate it and figure out who to ask about it.

mirager said:
I had the feature in a ROM cooked by someone from xda-dev, don't remember which one though, I still have the ROM somewhere on my computer, and I'm trying to locate it and figure out who to ask about it.
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cool!
I posted a question about it in Dutty's 3.7 ROM thread, but I haven't had any responses.

Well, i found out that the rom I was using, was one of Lobsterdave's...
However i also found out, that on my current rom (6.5) if I: open the inbox, press a message to open it, and use the reply soft-key, it will actually work.
A bit teedious, but the only way for now.
I asked in the thread of the rom, and wasn't really supplied with anything useable. Just a suggestion to cook my own rom...
I'm actually going to give a try. Until then I gotta admit... I'm starting to loose hope.
I think maybe the rhodium manilla, is able to flag messages, without opening inbox and so on. But that's not an option for me, as I'm running the old TF3D.

SMS going to wrong person

Hi everyone,
hoping that someone may be able to help me.
about 6 weeks after i got my phone i started having problems where in conversation mode i would reply to a message and it would go to another person in my address book (ususally the last person i had text'd). it wouldn't happen all the time but randomly.
I was on t-mobile but i upgraded the ROM (now 1.66) and tried doing a few hard resets. the phone would be ok for a little while then the problem would start again. because the phone is now past its month i can only get a repair. t-mobile don't know that i have upgraded the rom (i had to use hspl to do it) and htc said because i have upgraded the rom i've now voided my warranty.
anyone heard of any fixes or am i stuck with a phone that doesn't work so great for the next 15 months? (i've had the phone now 4 months and have been trying to deal with this problem for about 2.5 months now)
i've probably left out some vital information, if so my apologies.
thanks.
edit - if you have a moment to spare, could you test for this bug. DeadVirus has suggested a way to recreate a problem (post #14) that is being experienced by a few. thank you.

try flashing a 2.01 or higher ROM.

It was this problem which made me sell my HD2. I have only seen two other people, including yourself, report the issue here. Changing ROMs didn't seem to help, although I didn't try 2>

thanks both for your suggestions.
Can I ask sunking, why you didn't think of going down the repair or replace route?
I'm considering removing the flashed rom and seeing what t-mobile can do.

jeane said:
thanks both for your suggestions.
Can I ask sunking, why you didn't think of going down the repair or replace route?
I'm considering removing the flashed rom and seeing what t-mobile can do.
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I did, the handset was replaced three times but to be fair the SMS misdirection bug was so random and intermittent that although it hadn't shown up on the third handset, by this time I had lost all faith in the device. The volume was extremely loud anyway, even on the minimum setting so I returned the handset. It's a shame because I do miss that screen and the browsing capabilities.

I have this problem too! Any solution? It's anoying!!!

the only work around i have read that works is to just text from traditional mode. it's ugly and the spoilt child in me doesn't want to accept that but it's a short term fix.
have you spoken to htc? when i called them, they said they were unaware of such a problem.

jeane said:
the only work around i have read that works is to just text from traditional mode. it's ugly and the spoilt child in me doesn't want to accept that but it's a short term fix.
have you spoken to htc? when i called them, they said they were unaware of such a problem.
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I've just sent them an e-mail.
I hope this gets fixed soon!

WOW!!! that is worse than the msgs act. not being sent..it really is. i havent had this prob as yet (touch wood)...as much as i love this phone but that could have been the final straw for me to dump it.

I had the same problem. Phone is crap (firmware) in my opinion, I'm sure the fanboys on here will disagree.

One thing that I had notice, there are two registry values, LatestPhoneNumer and SelectedPhoneNumber in [HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCMessaging\Menu]. When the phone is about to send a message to the wrong number (you can check by doing "Menu->Send options" on while writing the sms), the SelectedPhoneNumber is with the wrong phone number, while the LatestPhoneNumber is with the correct one...
I think that the fact that SelectedPhoneNumber storing the wrong number is causing this stupid problem.

DeadVirus said:
One thing that I had notice, there are two registry values, LatestPhoneNumer and SelectedPhoneNumber in [HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCMessaging\Menu]. When the phone is about to send a message to the wrong number (you can check by doing "Menu->Send options" on while writing the sms), the SelectedPhoneNumber is with the wrong phone number, while the LatestPhoneNumber is with the correct one...
I think that the fact that SelectedPhoneNumber storing the wrong number is causing this stupid problem.
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i think you've definitely pin pointed the place where the problem is occuring. would you mind if i copied your message to send to htc?
i wouldn't mind if i needed to check before each text but where is Send Options? are you in conversation or traditional mode? have you already typed a message. i can't seem to find it under menu. all i get is insert, quick text, delete, discard, text size, recipient phone number (which is greyed out in conversation mode) and all messages.
sorry for the stupid question.
if you can solve this i'll name my first born after you. that's right, i'll name them deadvirus.

jeane said:
i think you've definitely pin pointed the place where the problem is occuring. would you mind if i copied your message to send to htc?
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I have already sent a mail to HTC, but you can do the same (more people, faster fix).
jeane said:
i wouldn't mind if i needed to check before each text but where is Send Options? are you in conversation or traditional mode? have you already typed a message. i can't seem to find it under menu. all i get is insert, quick text, delete, discard, text size, recipient phone number (which is greyed out in conversation mode) and all messages.
sorry for the stupid question.
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Sorry, it is "recipient phone number" and only works if you are in threaded mode (sometimes). I've translated it from my language and I thought that it was Send Options... sorry.
jeane said:
if you can solve this i'll name my first born after you. that's right, i'll name them deadvirus.
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Don't do that! Poor kid! XD

workaround?
I think I have found a workaround!!! It seems that if you use the Back hard button to get out of the contact message conversation window, the problem does not occur!
So, I think that the problem can be reproduced by doing the following (only in threaded mode):
1 - Open the Messages inbox;
2 - Open one contact and tap on the write area;
3 - Tap on Menu then Recipient phone number and check if the correct number is selected (It should show a small ball on the right side of the number). If the option is grey then wait a second and try again. If it's still grey it means that the contact only has one number associated and it is the one that is used for the next sms.
4 - Tap on Menu then All Messages;
5 - Open another contact (different from the first) and tap the write area);
6 - Tap on Menu then Recipient phone number and check the number. If there is no green ball (and the option is not greyed out) it's the bug!
You can do all the steps above, but using the Back hard button instead of the All Messages screen button (in step 4) to check if the workaround really works.
Give some feedback please...
EDIT: Using the Back Key also seems to solve the other bug about sms being loaded in background and covering the writing area!

No one can test this?

sorry dv, i wasn't notified of a response to the thread.
ummm... i'm trying to reproduce the problem but it is not happening for me. recipient phone number is always greyed out for me.
i suspect the problem occurs for me when there is a lag when switching between recipients on screen. it's like the information isn't re-written in the registry (as you suggested earlier).
my latest with htc is that i have been instructed by the email support to call htc helpline. will call next week and let you know.

jeane said:
sorry dv, i wasn't notified of a response to the thread.
ummm... i'm trying to reproduce the problem but it is not happening for me. recipient phone number is always greyed out for me.
i suspect the problem occurs for me when there is a lag when switching between recipients on screen. it's like the information isn't re-written in the registry (as you suggested earlier).
my latest with htc is that i have been instructed by the email support to call htc helpline. will call next week and let you know.
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Sometimes I have to open "Menu" two or three times before the option appears available...

DeadVirus said:
Sometimes I have to open "Menu" two or three times before the option appears available...
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no, even trying a few times, it remains greyed out.
i have recently deleted all my messages. i remember it happens when i have a few hundred messages saved. do you think that may have something to so with it? perhaps a regular deletion might avoid it having a conniption?

jeane said:
no, even trying a few times, it remains greyed out.
i have recently deleted all my messages. i remember it happens when i have a few hundred messages saved. do you think that may have something to so with it? perhaps a regular deletion might avoid it having a conniption?
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I don't think so... I have had it with a few messages in the box...
Have you tried to test it with two contacts with more than one number each?

DeadVirus said:
I don't think so... I have had it with a few messages in the box...
Have you tried to test it with two contacts with more than one number each?
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no, i'm afraid don't have any contacts with multiple numbers attached to their names.