Since my last ROM update with AKU2 my Exchange provider (1&1/United Internet) enforces me to use a password, which I definitely do not need.
Is there a way to bypass this policy, maybe a hack?
This has to be set at the exchange administrator level.
You can specify users/devices to ignore policy for but you'd need to get 1&1 to do this.
I know. But 1&1 won't do this, I'm afraid. So I'm looking for a cheat on my side.
You might find that trying to bypass their policy setting might be a breach of their usage conditions.
I know it must be a pain but I think we need to remember the background of why Push email was set up - for corporations wanting to allow employees to access mail on the go and also to secure their environments for mobile access at the same time.
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When I set up an exchange account the phone ask me to set a password. Now every time I turn on my phone it or wake it up it asks me to enter the password. How do I remove the password???
If you were forced to set a password when you set up exchange activesync then the password is enforced, you can't remove the need for a password as long as you sync to that server.
The IT policy is set by whoever administers the server for all connected devices, most companies would use that setting for example to protect their data.
Who is hosting your exchange? Is it a work account?
It's 1&1. I really wish i knew that before i bought. Everytime I wake up the phone I have to put in a darn code. Is there any way around this? Very annoying.
Only way around it is to remove the exchange connection.
It's a server-wide policy - to cope for some users needing passwords, maybe even their own staff it will have been set up.
I'd stick with it personally, the device is more secure when lost with it enabled... I carry a wizard and Blackberry - both need password entry but I'm used to it
This week end I tried to sync my oulook mailbox and it asked me to accept new security policy.
It was in fact my company that upgraded to latest Outlook mail server with push functionality.
I was very happy and push is working fine.
But now I also have this annoying Pin code to enter every hour.
Also even when I entered the code and I am free to use my phone during one hour, I noticed that each time I turn it on I have a blank screen for 1 seconde before it loads the today page slowly.
This password feature is not nice at all and I really want to get rid of it.
I am pretty sure we will be able to find some regkey to unlock this stupid security policy like in HKLM\security\Policies\Policies.
It has to be a user choice in the end.
Do you know if I stop syncing with my server if i can remove it?
no, as I've said twice already, if you're using exchange activesync then this policy is enforced.
It's not user choice, if you're syncing your device with your employers equpment it's their data, they're legally entitled to protect it. If you're syncing with a third party server then the device will do as its told... the server is considered authorative - the same is true of Blackberry.
If you can find a way to alter the policy the checksum of your settings will differ to that stored on exchange, when the device next syncs it will see the change in policy and enforce the correct settings, turning the security back on.
Seriously guys, if you want exchange activesync then live with the policy , if you don't then disable the server connection.
remove the activesync service then yes you should be able to edit again to disable.
of course the thing mentioned above is not a solution...
i'm hal-way there and spoke with the rom makers to find a complete solution...this one is just temparary...
SeanH said:
I have been using a registry hack everyday to prevent my WM5 device from locking itself every 30 minutes. At around 7:00pm the company I work for forces a policy to my device using push email. At that time I open a registry editor and modify \hklm\security\policies\policies\00001023 from 0 to 1. That prevents the unit from asking for a password for 24 hours.
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good luck
remen said:
of course the thing mentioned above is not a solution...
i'm hal-way there and spoke with the rom makers to find a complete solution...this one is just temparary...
good luck
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I've decided I'm not going to be able to help on this one. It's your company's choice to enforce that security policy and not mine to help you get around it. I'm not being rude, I'm just not able to put time into research to do that at this moment.
Good luck.
I've got all my details on how to connect to my Exchange server, however how do I get it to update as and when I receive new mail? At the moment I have to do it manually.
On the PDA, if you have filled in server, user name, password and domain thats all you need to do.
If you are not getting the email automatically I suspect its a setting issue on Exchange Server. Thats outside my experience, you are best posting a question on an MSDN forum related to Exchange
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As colonel said, the settings themselves are very few and easy to input.
The major problem is:
Which settings do you need ?
This is highly dependent on the infrastructure "your" Exchange Server is located in.
Personally I would have been lost without the infos sent to me by the SysAdmin of our company.
BTW:
Is it really "your" Exchange Server or the one from your mobile operator or the company you are working in ?
If the former is the case: you should know the settings, because it is very risky running an Exchange Server without being familiar with it downto the bits. If the latter is the case you are lucky off: your (experienced) SysAdmin will be glad to tell you. If he doesn't the service will not be open for useing it and if you are in a company it's be advisable then not to try to bypass services not intended for internal use.
It's through a third-party. I have a copy of Exchange, but I don't currently have a Windows server to run it on.
Trapper, go to Activesync on your workstation and press the Schedule button. Select "When new items arrive" for both Peak and Offpeak times.
There are also settings within your user ID in Active Directory. Go to properties of your user ID and I think it is the Exchange Advanced tab. This will allow you to set the sync options from the server side. You will need to do this from your Windows server, or get your administrator to do it for you.
Trapper, go to Activesync on your workstation and press the Schedule button. Select "When new items arrive" for both Peak and Offpeak times.
There are also settings within your user ID in Active Directory. Go to properties of your user ID and I think it is the Exchange Advanced tab. This will allow you to set the sync options from the server side. You will need to do this from your Windows server, or get your administrator to do it for you.
If its through a 3rd party then they are responsible. Why don't you contact their support dept. ?
1. If its a professional company like 4smartphone.net or mail2web.com then their IT depts will help you.
2. If its a small company with an exchange server and a DSL connection who have 'gifted you' an account they will need to get 3rd party consultancy to solve this. There are a number of checks, for example is it exchange 2003 ? has SP2 been applied ? has push been setup in the server engine ? etc etc
My experience of server based systems is that you need an expert. If you want to become an expert yourself then fine, but that probably means many years in the business, reading loads of books and/or an MS certified course.
I have had so much experience over the years of people who claim to know about a system, tinkering around but not solving problems. You have to get the A-Team.
I've read a few threads after searchign on Android and Exchange but can't really find what I'm after.
I need to enforce a security policy if users want to sync their exchange account. There's a few people in the office who want Android devices (we provide them with a device) but until there's somethign which enforces something along the lines fo a PIN after 20 mins ala WinMo then we can't do it.
Anyone have any ideas if it's coming or if there's an app to do it? I've tried Touchdown but just seems the same as the Hero Exchange app to me.
I've not tried Touchdown, but they say they support PIN enforcement.
http://www.nitrodesk.com/dk_touchdownFeatures.aspx
Regards,
Dave
Yes, Touchdown and Roadsync both support the PIN function (they ignore it somehow, as android doesn't have a PIN function!)
although i do believe that it is technically possible to exclude individual accounts from the policy on the server (although not exactly the best idea in terms of security).
Alternatively, just do what we did at work and say 'No, you cannot have an Android Phone for your Work Phone'.
Since the ROM update on the HTC hero, I have been able to access my work email (a massive highly secured company who generally know what they are doing) and I know for a fact that they enforce this kind of security arangement on mobiles that want to connect - however android has somehow got around this and there is no remote enforcement and I can use my phone for these emails via PUSH. (I use the gesture lock as a password) You could get them to sign an agreement that they will apply this kind of thing to their phone manually. I don't know if there is an app for remote wipe.
Your company isn't allowing you in some backdoor or anything... depending on their version of exchange they are simply allowing you to use activesync through exchange.
What we all really need is an andriod client to take advantage of exchange 2007's exchange web services protocol, activesync is old technology and limited.
O.P. - You can limit users on a single user basis, if you're running windows active directory. Need a little more info on what you are trying to accomplish. If you're allowing them to use their mail client setup they are saving a password that is not clear text and is hashed... you can install a remote wipe on the phone and if they lose it, simply wipe it and forget it.
My company which uses lotus traveler to enable access to corporate mail and calendar on WM devices. I installed this on my HTC HD running WM6.5 (Dutty Leo ROM). The installation has forcing us to use strong alphanumeric passwords and also greyed out the "prompt if unused for" radio button where you would typically turn off the phone password locking. This has rendering the phone virtually unusable as it takes 3 mins to enter a strong alpha password each time you use the phone...brilliant!
Is there a hack/registry edit that I can use to un-grey this button so I can turn it off and start using my phone normally again.
Any suggestions would be appreciated...
It's probably not related to the Lotus Traveller itself, but with the company enforced policies included in the CAB file - I presume You got the CAB from the company, not the Lotus/IBM website. At least that was the case in our company, that they forced to use the simple PIN lock with Exchange sync - I was already bothered by the simple PIN, so I dropped the whole idea. But I suggest You take a look in the CAB file, if You can still get it and see what changes does it make in the registry. Or You can also ask from Your company IT guys about the WM policies they have to enforce, they should know.
Anyway, hope You have some directions to go now.
Thanks for the suggestions....
1) I tried removing the lotus traveler application - this had the effect of removing the security enforcement. I reinstalled it and it was enforced again.
2) The traveler application launches automatically when the phone boots up. So I removed it from the startup sequence. Unfortunately this did not solve the problem. So I think there must be a registry setting somewhere that is set and monitored by the application.
3) I also looked in the setup.xml file that was in the traveler.cab installation file. I could not find any registry mods that were related to security.
4) The traveler release notes say the following: Customizable device password strength enforcement rules!
Traveler provides a built-in set of default device preferences and security settings that an administrator can modify for use when a device initially registers with Lotus Notes Traveler. The default device settings for users come from the Traveler administration database default device settings document. Users can change their device preference settings from their devices, but only an Traveler administrator can change device security settings.
Suggestions?
In the last few days I have browsed the registry quite thoroughly and there doesn't appear to be key that controls whether radio buttons are active or not (greyed out). I was hoping to make the "prompt if unused for" radio button active again so I could manually switch it off.
I'm out of ideas....any suggestions pls
i have lotus traveler installed on my tp 2 i have flashed my phone many times and reinstalled lotus and have had no problems. can you post a screen shot.
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I am a Notes admin and can confirm this is a polcy that has been set to secure company data on mobile devices. Most companies have a policy that requires company information/access be secured especially on things like mobile devices.
Think about it, your company email system would be available to anyone stealing or finding your phone. While this may not worry you, it could be a cause for concern for your company executives or auditors - and could be a compliance issue in many industries.
The policy is set on the email server itself and pushed down and enforced on the device so it cannot be bypassed.
To remove it or get a less secure PIN you will need to speak to your company Lotus Notes admin.
This is an issue I have seen before and can cause conflicts between employees who use their own phones and resent the way they use them being changed and those concerned with securing and protecting their company.
Hope that helps but the long and short is speak to your email admins. The security policy is not default so someone must have set it up that way for a reason.
MIUI used to have an option to disable the password option even when it is enabled/enforced by Notes Traveler. However the new versions of miui do not have this.
Check this link
http://miuiandroid.com/community/th...en-security-has-been-removed-fro-1-7-29.8941/
why not have the security measures focus on the app?
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Hi
I am a Notes admin and can confirm this is a polcy that has been set to secure company data on mobile devices. Most companies have a policy that requires company information/access be secured especially on things like mobile devices.
Think about it, your company email system would be available to anyone stealing or finding your phone. While this may not worry you, it could be a cause for concern for your company executives or auditors - and could be a compliance issue in many industries.
The policy is set on the email server itself and pushed down and enforced on the device so it cannot be bypassed.
To remove it or get a less secure PIN you will need to speak to your company Lotus Notes admin.
This is an issue I have seen before and can cause conflicts between employees who use their own phones and resent the way they use them being changed and those concerned with securing and protecting their company.
Hope that helps but the long and short is speak to your email admins. The security policy is not default so someone must have set it up that way for a reason.
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so why not have the security measures focus on securing the app and the app data? personally, I don't mind the 24/7 emails...but making me lock my phone so the company can blow up my phone at 7pm on a sunday...LAME.
Are there any news? I would like to remove the LockScreen security and want to use ibm verse.
Is there any way to get out of having to enter a pin because of the exchange server security requirements? I don't have any info on my work email I am worried about.. so it would be nice not to have to have a PIN/Password to be able to use it.
I have an exchange, it doesn't have to ise a pin at all, I just put it on to the native the email app
Just open and your in.
If the Exchange is setup to require PIN, not all are, then no you will not be able to get around it. It depends on the IT policy who is running the Exchange environment. They can set it to wipe your phone as well if they wish. Both the native app and Touchdown will do this. If they allow other methods of accessing Exchange, then this will not be an issue. However if they are requiring a PIN then they probably don't.
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If the Exchange is setup to require PIN, not all are, then no you will not be able to get around it. It depends on the IT policy who is running the Exchange environment. They can set it to wipe your phone as well if they wish. Both the native app and Touchdown will do this. If they allow other methods of accessing Exchange, then this will not be an issue. However if they are requiring a PIN then they probably don't.
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Ok. Guess I'll see if I can access it through other means than exchange. Not sure. Just hate typing in the pin all the time!!
Thanks for the info though
I run an exchange server myself with a few activesync devices running. It sounds like the pin you are describing is imposed by your system administrator, when I set up an account on an evo or inc all I need is my domain credentials and a server address.
I also run an Exchange setup. I can verify that a few native e-mail apps from 2.1 days somehow bypass certain Exchange requirements, much to my dismay (Motorola comes to mind). They pretty much lied to Exchange and said they were compliant when they weren't and didn't enforce some rules. However, all the new stuff follows the ActiveSync rules, assuming that's the setup you're aiming for. I suppose if you really wanted to bypass the security you could check to see if they left IMAP or POP open, but then they'd just be some not-very-smart sysadmins.
Also, you shouldn't need anything more than your e-mail address and your password to ActiveSync. After the initial attempt at syncing it will ask for you to verify the security permissions. If it drops out and asks for your server name, domain, and such then tell your admins to fix AutoDiscover.
Oh, and while the thought of your admins being able to wipe on command is scary, you will have the ability to remote wipe your device in the event you lose it. It'll be accessible under OWA, so that's handy.