How do I install into the Ext.ROM ?! - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

Okay, I now was able to downgrade my MDA VARIO to the ROM that lets you delete the Ext.ROM upon HardReset.
I downloaded a Tool called Ext.Rom Unlock which unlocks the Ext.ROM so that I can install Stuff there. But how would I got about installing Spb Pocket Plus 3.1 into the Ext.ROM for example?
I am also wondering once I do another reset and quit the automatic install of the T-Mobile Stuff ( Soft Reset ), what files will I need to be able to still use the T-Mobile ( Germany ) SMS/MMS/GPRS/TELEPHONE Services & of Course WIFI.

Found the solution myself 8) - well at least the part how to install into the Ext.ROM
After using the Ext.ROM Unlocker I was got another "Storage Card" named Ext.ROM2
When I now install a program I get the option to either install to the VARIO, the MiniSD Card or the ExtROM2
That was easy - now I only need to know what I need to install to fully use the T-Mobile Services and I am ready to go :lol:

I downloaded a Tool called Ext.Rom Unlock
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Where did you get this?

da: ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Misc/Unlock Ext Rom Wizard.cab

Thanks Hades - much appreciated.
I had another link - but it was not the right one.

I suppose this also works on a 1.5.x or earlier rom?

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Unlocking extended ROM

Really sorry - can someone point me in the direction of a tool that unlocks the extended ROM for a Wizard? I'ves searched but I can't find Am I being blind?
I need to free up some space and want to get rid of those imate .tsk files but need to unlock the ROM first.
Thanks
Mat
Try this one
Download this
http://www.ghisler.com/pocketpc.htm
Then type (after install)
“\Extended_Rom\”
and walla
Didi
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Hi,
can somebody explain how i can delete the files in extended rom ? i tried with TC and the files seemed to be deleted, but after the hardreset they were still there.....I want to get rid of them and install some other programms too.
Thanks and regards
Joachim
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Hi,
can somebody explain how i can delete the files in extended rom ? i tried with TC and the files seemed to be deleted, but after the hardreset they were still there.....I want to get rid of them and install some other programms too.
Thanks and regards
Joachim
Ok Total commander gives you access to the extended rom using the method just posted above.
But if you want to actually have the extended rom showing all time, then you need this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33680&highlight=extended+rom
The extended rom unlocker will give the actual extended rom as space deginated extended_rom2 and its about 9.85mb size or something with between about 350kb and 2.5mb of .cab files in it depending on whether its a Qtek (Which has the least amount of files), I-mate, o2 or T-Mobile, these last two probably (along with Orange) will have the most 'junk in them.
Once you have ran the exteneded rom unlocker and soft reset your device it will be accesible through file explorer you won't need TC.
You can then go in and delete (be careful to make sure what everything does first) its your own responsibility, and remove what you don't need.
For example on the I-mate Extended Rom you cane remove Backgammon, Skype and the anti virus prog. There wasn't much on the Qtek Rom I just put on mine just clearvue and soemthing else inconsequential, there was no skype or antivirus, but I believe some Qtek roms might have this.
T-Mobile is abother story, there is a shedload of crap in the extended rom, ranging from a today screen toolbar to small progs, there is list knocking about of what each file does. When I changed from T-Mob to I-mate and then Qtek I just transferred the T-Mobile GPRS settings and the GPRS disconnect button .cab and put them in the exteneded Rom myself and let it run.
Also on I-mate Rom there are carrier settings that you can delete which won't apply to you, basically lots fo countries phone settings, like o2 UK, T-Mobile Spain etc etc, depending on where you are in the world.
You can't delete the I-mate .tsk todayscreens as far as I know, they are not in the ExtRom. The Qtek ExtROm doesn't have the extra .tsk's just default and the Guava Bubbles one.
If anyone wants the T-Mobile GPRS .cab and GPRS disconnect button .cab I can send it through msn or email.
that doesn't work either. I treid with the unlocker and deleted the files with TC. If i check the content no files are there, but when i try to copy other files to the ext. Rom it says that the volume is write protected. I softreseted several times also.
Any hint on that ? How have all the others deleted the files in extended rom ?
Regards
Joachim
batman08 said:
that doesn't work either. I treid with the unlocker and deleted the files with TC. If i check the content no files are there, but when i try to copy other files to the ext. Rom it says that the volume is write protected. I softreseted several times also.
Any hint on that ? How have all the others deleted the files in extended rom ?
Regards
Joachim
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Might not work for you but it worked for me and a load of others. Once the extended rom is visible you can delete files easily, you don't need TC like I said. Its easier to put additional cabs into my documents sync them across and just run them.
Yeah, that's a pitty.... I have the Vodafone VPA Compact II, which is the Wizard 100 afaik.
Someone around here has the same model and succeeded in removing the cabs from the extended rom ?

Unlock Extended ROM

I just discoverd that I cannot modify the extended rom (using Total Commander, etc.) How does one unlock it so tht it may be modified?
Thanks,
Frank
fmcgirt said:
I just discoverd that I cannot modify the extended rom (using Total Commander, etc.) How does one unlock it so tht it may be modified?
Thanks,
Frank
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It can, just try again anad again, i did it on my 4th attemps
Cheers!
Thanks for the response but I haven't had any success after several tries. I tried installing the Wizard unlock cab file and afterwards with Total Commander, I can reset the Read Only bit on all the files and copy the files to my SD card. However, I am unable to delete any files. They appear to be deleted but come back after a soft reset. I would like to especially get rid of all the operator settings files. The rest of the stuff like Skype, Anti Virus and Backgammon I can get rid of using Settings>Remove Programs.
Frank
Isn't "ROM" short for "read only memory"?
hi, I am using Buzz's unlocker for Wizard... it made the ExtROM visible but still it is read only
I need to find how can I delete and add files to it.
Any challenging minds out there?
Total commander does not work with the jamin in my case anyway.
Tried several time with no results.
shahzadkhan15nov said:
hi, I am using Buzz's unlocker for Wizard... it made the ExtROM visible but still it is read only
I need to find how can I delete and add files to it.
Any challenging minds out there?
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hi,
unlocker for wizard is not mine...
buzz
...well, if anyone can give me a dump of Prophet's bootloader + clean registry export, i can take a look at it..
buzz
Buzz,
Thanks for the great offer.
I can give you the clean reg but how can i get you the first part, bootloader thingie?
Regards
I have used the Wizard Extended ROM unlock program to unlock the ROM on my Prophet. I now have a copy of the Extended ROM on my SD Card. I'm not concerned about erasing the Extended ROM files, I just don't wan them installed, so I did a Hard Reset and just when it says that it will start installing the additional prorams in 3 seconds, I did a soft reset.
OK, now I have a Prophet without extended ROM. I can now install the stuff that I want.
Most of the cab files I've figured out, Does anyone know what the following extended ROM cabs do? This is from the latest Imate Jamin ROM.
Default_CAAVPPC_IMEI_2.6.77_range.CAB
Default_Imate_PPC_SA_V5.5.03.cab
Default_MP_Shortcut_MMS1_JAVA_VOICE_CV_051213.CAB
Default_PP_TSK.CAB
Default_PP_UAString.CAB
Default_PT_Signed_IconDll.sa.CAB
Default_PT_Signed_Patch_SD.sa.CAB
Thanks heaps,
Matterhorn
Default_CAAVPPC_IMEI_2.6.77_range.CAB is the anti-virus app which used to play havoc in slowing down the KJAM. Maybe this version is better but I uninstalled it using Remove Programs. About the rest I am not sure. At least you don't have Skype, backgammon and the Operator Settings files so I expect you will gain a fair amount.
Frank
you can use wince cab manager to see the content of the cab file.
Still nothing? Guess I will go the way of Matterhorn when I need to do a hard reset. Several others have not installed the Extended ROM at all and have reported significant speedup in the JAMin.
Frank
That would be me. I haven't installed one thing off the extended rom and my speed is really pretty good. You can see a video review at the link below to compare the m600 and the jamin (with no extended rom). Keep in mind I don't use mms, skype, antivirus anyway....so no big deal to leave off the ext rom. I also use adobe and don't need the clearview .pdf. Hope the video helps
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=849592
Thanks, Mike. I don't use the stuff either except MMS once in a while but can just as easily use email for that. I presume Voice Dial is in the Extended Rom but rather have MS VC anyway and things like Connection Manager, Messaging, etc., that I want are not in the Extended ROM so I should be fine.
Now to find time to do a hard reset and re-install my apps.
Frank
Everyone has diffrent issues, I was able to delete the files from there (verified by refreshing the dir, and I recieved no read only error) but I was unable to write files to it, which I thought was very strange, I am using APA_ext_rom_unlock.exe and it does NOT give me the success msg it acts like it hasnt even ran. I updated my ROM to teh test one that was floating auround 2.8.7 whatever, and I realized too late that aWizard has no way to reflash teh extended ROM so I am without all my Cingular apps and I have all the 2.8.7 Extended rom stuff with the 1.8 Cingular OS ROM which I reverted back to. Any suggestions how I can replace my extended ROM ?
any luck so far?
Hi guys,
Are we getting any hope/luck to unlock Ext ROM for JAMin/Prophet?
I don't know how you guys are doing it. I have tried several times to delete items in my extended rom using total commander, at least 10 times and the result is the same. After the hard reset all that was deleted was re-installed after the reset.
I have contacted TC a while ago, and have not heard anything, maybe they are working on it.
Just curious....as I'm new to this ext rom stuff....but why don't you just "not install" the ext rom. Then use gsfinder to install whichever .cabs you want? If any? Just curious as I may be missing something. :roll:
mikewchandler said:
Just curious....as I'm new to this ext rom stuff....but why don't you just "not install" the ext rom. Then use gsfinder to install whichever .cabs you want? If any? Just curious as I may be missing something. :roll:
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No, I think the end result would be pretty much the same. For me I would like an Extended ROM for the JAMin that includes exacty what I want installed - no Backgammon, AntiVirus, Smart Dialing, Skype and a single Operator Settings file for TMO USA. Then when I hard reset I don't have to mess with anything else, just let it go. I had my KJAM setup that way and I would like the JAMin to be the same. I would also be as close to an OEM install as I can get (without the junk) so I don't have to worry about proper default settings not being there because of some file I didn't install or installed in the wrong order. Having said all this and thinking about it more I am sure you would get to the same point doing your procedure and then installing the required .cab files in the proper order.
Now I have a question:
Wonder what would happen if I did a hard reset, then did the soft reset to stop the Ext ROM install, installed the required .cab files in order, soft reset and then restored from a Sprite BU file. Wonder would I be restoring any files that could cause problems due to an imcomplete ROM install? I guess I will have to try that first since I do hate to re-install a bunch of apps and especially have to re-enter all the reg codes.
Frank

Issue - unable to install an ExtRom Cab (not signed?)

Hi all,
I'm trying to install an ExtRom cab from Orange French rom which include the PVPlayer (necessary for live TV).
However, I get a message "install was unsuccessful .... not digitally signed with a trusted certificate"...
I've run Buzz ExtRom unlocker tool with success, but now I dunno what to do to install this cab.
Anyone can help me on this?
Thanks
mm, tried various time and no success
I think i'm missing how works ext rom...
Nobody can help me on this?
cedrick said:
Hi all,
I'm trying to install an ExtRom cab from Orange French rom which include the PVPlayer (necessary for live TV).
However, I get a message "install was unsuccessful .... not digitally signed with a trusted certificate"...
I've run Buzz ExtRom unlocker tool with success, but now I dunno what to do to install this cab.
Anyone can help me on this?
Thanks
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Try to copy all that you need to have into the extended rom folder, inclusive of the config.txt file (make sure the parts that you want are referred to in this txt).
Do a hard reset and let your device customize automatically.
If it does not work, try with all original extended rom files.
Ok, so it can't be installed like any programs... you need to install them at the same time as the rom after a hard reset.
Damn, should have asked before then, now I have so many things installed...
I guess I'll try to find another way before trying this.
Thanks anyway for your reply!
cedrick said:
Ok, so it can't be installed like any programs... you need to install them at the same time as the rom after a hard reset.
Damn, should have asked before then, now I have so many things installed...
I guess I'll try to find another way before trying this.
Thanks anyway for your reply!
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With some you can, with others you cannot. I think it has got something to do with loading the certificates first before you can install the signed versions of the cabs in the ex-rom.
You could try to install the certificates cab (is you can find which one that is) and then install the signed cab after it.
Let us know if and how it works!
Bon Success!
I should be able to find a cert cab somewhere... that's a good idea, I'll try this and let you know.
Thanks :wink:
Well I have installed two cert cabs :
Cert_SPCS.cab (from LokiWiz tools)
and PP_Certificate_OR_Jan23_Wizard.cab (from Orange Ext Rom)
But nothing changed before and after soft reset
I don't understand why adding this screen rotate icon on tray is signed...
The other cab I want to install is the PVplayer used for live TV.
Must be a simple way to install those cabs.
robincop deel 2 said:
cedrick said:
Hi all,
I'm trying to install an ExtRom cab from Orange French rom which include the PVPlayer (necessary for live TV).
However, I get a message "install was unsuccessful .... not digitally signed with a trusted certificate"...
I've run Buzz ExtRom unlocker tool with success, but now I dunno what to do to install this cab.
Anyone can help me on this?
Thanks
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Try to copy all that you need to have into the extended rom folder, inclusive of the config.txt file (make sure the parts that you want are referred to in this txt).
Do a hard reset and let your device customize automatically.
If it does not work, try with all original extended rom files.
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I should try this then, so I have to make the Ext rom folder appear with Buzz tools, then copy what I want in it and hard reset right?
Try this one.
PVP player does not work with my dopod rom.
Wow thanks, it worked this time and I have now that screen rotate thing in my tray bar... great !!!!
How did you do this, did you took it from another extrom? or did you signed it somehow?
anyway, about PVPlayer, I suceeded to install one (in attachement), but I need to pass through pocket IE and Orange web to click on a live tv link (then I think it open the pvplayer).
But it didn't worked with the one I installed, I guess something was missing to make the link between IE and PVP
That's why I wanted to try the cab in orange fr extrom (also in attachment).
Well anyway, thanks you very much for the above cab that worked, at last I have the screen rotate on Today screen !!
cedrick said:
How did you do this, did you took it from another extrom? or did you signed it somehow?
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No, it comes standard unsigned with the NL Orange ex-rom.
Glad it worked out for you.
Hi, me again on this topic...
So I have modified the ext rom so that at the hard reset it could install that cab (which I have attached to my last post):
MP-Shortcut-MMS1-JAVA5XX-CV-VOICE-PVPLAYER-Orange-FR-060118.CAB
But it seems that it has not worked since I have no PVplayer installed on my prophet... maybe the signature is prohibing the install from ext rom too.
Well, is there anyway to remove the signature of this cab or install a signature on it so that it could be installed on my dopod rom ?
Is there a cert cab I could use to install the sig on the prophet and then install this cab?
sorry if my question seems stupid, quite new on that part.
Thanks
Hey, i got the I-mate JAMin, but there's no config.txt in the EXtRom. ANybody knows the language and the way it should be coded?
not sure about this, I've seen 2 ext rom so far and both had text files config.txt or something...
But that's a bit of topic :wink:
cedrick said:
Hi, me again on this topic...
So I have modified the ext rom so that at the hard reset it could install that cab (which I have attached to my last post):
MP-Shortcut-MMS1-JAVA5XX-CV-VOICE-PVPLAYER-Orange-FR-060118.CAB
But it seems that it has not worked since I have no PVplayer installed on my prophet... maybe the signature is prohibing the install from ext rom too.
Well, is there anyway to remove the signature of this cab or install a signature on it so that it could be installed on my dopod rom ?
Is there a cert cab I could use to install the sig on the prophet and then install this cab?
sorry if my question seems stupid, quite new on that part.
Thanks
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I have the same problem with the Dutch Orange version when installing on the Dopod ROM. It does install, but I get a "non-imaged" icon in my programs folder that gives me a error message when I click it.
I have decided to forget about it all together.
Robin
I've unlocked my Jamin extended ROM and deleted "ALL" the files in it. Then I did a hrd reset and guess what..... all the files were restored.
This means that there is another ROM that the files are stored in even if you delete or cook the ext Rom, hard rest just igores it totally.
I guess i'll just wait for the possibility to go back to the orange rom from the dopod one :?

JAMin + changing ROM

Hi Guys i own a imate JAMin that i bought and it has telstra branding on the phone/pda, it isnt locked to this carrier, but i need to get rid of there loaded stuff on the pda
what i need to know is a few things if possible please
1. is there a walk through somewhere on how to change the rom to a standard one
2. where can i download a new rom from
3. can i screw it up bad ?
any other help would be great
Thanks
t0ne
Easy, just download Total commander from http://www.ghisler.com/
Open it up and at the top type \Extended_Rom
This will show the contents of your extended rom, you will see loads of things but the ones you want are the cabs relating to your provider. Or all providers actually, Delete allt the cabs that dont start with Default_ these are what brand your device when you hard reset.
Now just hard reset, it will isntall all the normal stuff but will leave you with a brand free jamin.
Hi dannyoneill,
thanks for the program, only problem i have is how do i add the jamin to it so that i can see it and do what u r saying ?
thanks
You need to download and install Windows CE FS plug-in. You will then see a mobile device entry in the file window. I recommend dragging it to the toolbar so you will always have a button for convenient access (total commander can open files directly form the device).
Also I don't remember it now, but if you search this forum there is a registry tweak that will unhide your extended ROM so you can use it for extra storage space (and manipulate files in it using regular explorer both on device and PC). You can use the free PHM Registry editor to apply the tweak.
Just follow the instructions to install total commander onto your PPC. Make sure you click the link to the mobile version and not the desktop version.
thanks dannyoneill, got it working..
jsut a few other questions if u dont mind
im in the \Extended_Rom folder with the default stuff but the telstra stuff i want to get rid of has Default_Telstra_australia_SA_UN_V2.20.CAB and also Default_Australia_Telstra.CAB as the file names, will these be ok to delete still ?
thanks
Yes, you can delete them.
If you really want everything here is safe to delete. What it usually contains are patches like driver updates, applications like the backgammon, antivirus and Skype.
Below is taken from another post, its a little out of date but still good to see whats what. For me. I removed all the operators apart from my own (as it doesnt brand) plus got rid of backgammon, antivirus (totally useless on a PPC) and skype as the latest version is better (especially if you apply the registry fix to get it working)
Autorun.exe
Default_Backgammon_PPC_IMAM001.CAB >>> Backgammon
Default_CAAVPPC_IMEI_Wiz_range.CAB >>> THE DREADED ANTI VIRUS STUFF
Default_CAB-shortcut-CDL-08Sep05.CAB >>> Clearview PDF
Default_cdl_wwe_version.cab >>> Some Imate stuff (Harmless)
Default_ie_view.sa.cab >>> Some Imate stuff (Harmless)
Default_Imate_PPC_SA_V5.5.03.cab >>> Some Imate stuff (Harmless)
Default_SkypeForPocketPCnonxScale.CAB >>> SKYPE FOR NONE XSCALE !!!
Default_SmartDialing_enable_0915_signed.CAB >>> The pretty Dialer and smart-dialer stuff
Install_Tsk.exe >>> This Installs all the “Default_” Files
Setup.exe >>> This allows for Selection of the “Operator Settings”
These are the “Settings” which is not needed at least in the GULF STATES
KPN_Nederland.CAB
MTN_SouthAfrica.CAB
O2_UK_Contract.CAB
O2_UK_PAYG.CAB
Optus_Settings.CAB
Orange_Nederland.CAB
Orange_UK_Contract.CAB
Orange_UK_PAYG.CAB
T-Mobile_Nederland.CAB
T-Mobile_UK.CAB
Telfort_Nederland.CAB
TelstraClear_NZ.CAB
Telstra_Australia.CAB
Virgin_UK.CAB
Vodacom_SA_WAP1.2.CAB
Vodacom_SA_WAP2.0.CAB
Vodafone_AU.CAB
Vodafone_Nederland.CAB
Vodafone_NZ.CAB
Vodafone_UK_Contract.CAB
Vodafone_UK_PAYT.CA
I made a copy of all of the above to an SD card BEFORE DOING ANYTHING else (NoBackUp…learned his lesson……Harry Potter !!!)
So I Reduced my ER to Just
Autorun.exe
Default_Backgammon_PPC_IMAM001.CAB
Default_CAB-shortcut-CDL-08Sep05.CAB
Default_cdl_wwe_version.cab
Default_ie_view.sa.cab
Default_Imate_PPC_SA_V5.5.03.cab
Default_SkypeForPocketPCnonxScale.CAB
Install_Tsk.exe
Setup.exe
How just simply Delete !!!
Don’t forget to hard reset let the imate setup run (will not only install the stuff you did not delete) and try out your new toy.
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dannyoneill thanks heaps,
deleting those to files worked a treat
thanks again
t0ne
Poll for sticking this 3d!
THANKS !!!
..._
P.S.: may I install basic stuff to the ExtROM while it's hidden ?
Or, if I need to unhide it, install, then re-hide, will such software still playable ?
I mean for example:
- Total commander itself
- Resco explorer
- Storage tools
- Sprite Backup
- and so on...
Is it a strange idea ?
Thanks again for this illuminating thread.
You can unlock and install things no problem, not done it myself, done know if they will still be usable after its re-hidden i would think not.
The extended rom is reserved so empty or not its not going to give you more ram or rom storage at all. The best thing to do is unlock it and use it for storage. The annoying thing is if you hard reset you then have to re-unlock it.
t0ne said:
dannyoneill thanks heaps,
deleting those to files worked a treat
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BTW, on the i-mate website's JAMin support pages, you will find specific operator settings for Optus in a downloadable CAB file, which will setup the wireless settings for your device.

system brand files?

Hi!
I have a t-mobile branded pda, but after reinstalltion of the wm6 I just took the battery out, so the configuring was aborted and I have a "normal" wm6.
Where can I find the configuring files, so that I can install e.g. tomtom?
thx
Roland
just hard reset the device and the process will start once again
But I don't want my mobile to be t-mobile branded!
Isn't there a way to activate/install this tray?
Where are this brand-install-packages installed, so I could install only the one I need....
I found the solution
With the "Unlock Ext Rom Wizard.cab" I could see the Extended Rom and in it was the file I wanted to install.

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