Database Users

Wav file length and formats

Hi guys
Does anyone know if there is a limitation to what you can have as a ringtone?
I have done what *seems* right, it even plays on media player on the M1000 but I cannot get the wav to load in the "Add Ring Tone" section.
Does the file have to be some obscure wav format or no longer than say 20 seconds etc?
Has anyone come across this problem as well?
Cheers
Ben

it have to be good old std wav which is called PCM
not sure if there are any length issues
try
looking if it shows up in sounds and notifications
or make sure the file is places in windows or windows\rings or something like that

Ok - I have tried a standard PCM wav and it still doesnt like it! Also tried a short 1 second one and that doesnt work!
Confused? I am!!!

did you put it in windows ?
did you put it in windows/rings ?
did you try and see if you could choose it under sound and notifications insted there you can choose both phone rings and others
add ring tones are mainly used for adding wma's

mp3 Ringtone !!

HI,
Please, How to set an mp3 file as a ring tone to the Magician?
Thanks,

Dear Friends,
I cant believe 77 viewers, with no single quote? unless my question is a stupid one !!!
Any guide line?
thanks alot.

just download this and install at Magician.

Rothstein said:
just download this and install at Magician.
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THANKS ALOT MASTER.
IT WORKS VERY WELL.

Not working for me. Installed, no error messages, but I still can't use mp3's as ringtone. Actually in file manager mp3's are not associated with any programs. Could someone give any help?

you dont need anything to set a .mp3 as a ringtone, just place the mp3 file in the rings folder under windows and go to the tone selection screen and it will be there.
PLACE MP3 FILE IN FOLLOWING FOLDER
\\My Device\Windows\Rings
then do this
Start>Settings>Sounds & Notifications>Notifications(on bottom)
Then Event:.. scroll down to Phone: Incoming Call then tap the drop down box by ring tone and it will be there.
There should deffinately be a FAQ sticky for this kinda stuff

windows moible second edition supports mp3 as ring tone by default

alix776 said:
windows moible second edition supports mp3 as ring tone by default
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I Have Windows Mobile 2003 (Second Edition) Version 4.21.1088 (Build 15045.2.6.0)
BUT I can not set mp3 file as a ringtone without the above software.

fone_fanatic said:
you dont need anything to set a .mp3 as a ringtone, just place the mp3 file in the rings folder under windows and go to the tone selection screen and it will be there.
PLACE MP3 FILE IN FOLLOWING FOLDER
\\My Device\Windows\Rings
then do this
Start>Settings>Sounds & Notifications>Notifications(on bottom)
Then Event:.. scroll down to Phone: Incoming Call then tap the drop down box by ring tone and it will be there.
There should deffinately be a FAQ sticky for this kinda stuff
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So it can't be done without placing the mp3 in the ringtones directory? In deed it's not working for me that way either. I can see the mp3 on the list, but after choosing and pressing an OK, it sets itself back to windows default. Actually I can't use anything else than windows default. I'm really getting mad, plz help! Where is the file associations menu? Maybe there's some problem there. This thing is messed up since I've installed and uninstalled winamp...

Work great on wm2005 1.60b
Man i dont know is if its the program or the windows itself..but under the settings of notifications all my mp3 is listed ..which i never knew!...this is GREAT!
AMD

Work great on wm2005 1.60b
Man i dont know is if its the program or the windows itself..but under the settings of notifications all my mp3 is listed ..which i never knew!...this is GREAT!
AMD

It would appear that by default mp3 ringtones are allowed, however once you install a third party app to play mp3's (you mention winamp) you lose the ability to use them(it seems that the Media player engine is used for this).Uninstalling the app makes no difference, you then have no mp3 player because the mobile version of windows does not restore the file association. The best way round this that I have found is to simply use an audio app (Nero wave editor in my case) to convert/edit the mp3s to wma. This has the bonus that most mp3 tracks are too long for a ringtone (how many phones ring for 3-4 minutes without kicking in the answering service ?) so when you convert you can also reduce the length.
I cant comment on the set ringtone cab posted here, never tried it, it may work
HTH

I am able to install the cab file without any error message but still can't use mp3's as ringtone. The mp3 file appears in the Sound and Notification drop down list, but whenever I select the mp3 file and try to play, it doesn't play and return back to Windows Default ringtone. Can anyone tell me that what is the problem?

cool_paki said:
I am able to install the cab file without any error message but still can't use mp3's as ringtone. The mp3 file appears in the Sound and Notification drop down list, but whenever I select the mp3 file and try to play, it doesn't play and return back to Windows Default ringtone. Can anyone tell me that what is the problem?
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The same problem I have. Also I don't think so that the easiest way to solve it is to convert each of my mp3's to wma or whatever. Somehow there should be a way to restore the file associations. Maybe if someone would have a media player to install (re-install) that could solve it. The problem is that I've also lost my former ringtones.

Have a look at this thread here. Ive just downloaded the files but not tried em yet. Seems to be able to restore file associations so that WMP becomes your default player. This should then allow you to use mp3's as ringtones
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=27269

cool_paki said:
I am able to install the cab file without any error message but still can't use mp3's as ringtone. The mp3 file appears in the Sound and Notification drop down list, but whenever I select the mp3 file and try to play, it doesn't play and return back to Windows Default ringtone. Can anyone tell me that what is the problem?
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GO TO START/SETTING/PERSONAL/PHONE (AND SELECT YOUR MP3 FROM THERE).
CHEERS,
YAARUB

So the file associations are normal again, thx to your help. But how can I set an mp3 as ringtone which is stored on the sd card other than copying it to the ringtones folder as it takes far too much space from the main memory? The settings-ringtones does not find the mp3 files either on the sd or in the system memory, only wavs and mids.

@Szilu
I'm afraid there is no other choise but to copy the mp3 ringtone to the main memory.
Im sorry

That's a pity. Anyway can you suggest any programs then to cut mp3's to smaller pieces? As 4 minutes is far too much thus the size can be shrinked. THX for your kind help.

Try "Sound Forge", But im not sure if it support mp3 files or .waqv only, their you can cut the file to small pieces.
good luck.

changing sms tone

is there anyway of changing the sms tone to something that isnt the standard boring ones in the list - like an mp3 or wav file?

Copy your .wav file to /windows
Then go to Settings, Sounds & Notifications
Click on the Notifications tab at the bottom.
Under Event drop down choose the event you want to change the sound to.
I personally never had luck getting mp3's to work for notifications. Only wav files.
Good luck.

what is the settings you all use for this to work with wav? I have converted a ringtone to wav and saved it at 8k 41000 to make the file as small as possible. and its not playing. it plays in media player but wont play as a sms tone.

Yeah, I couldnt get it to work eitherand I used quite a few different formats. Have managed to get ring tones installed no problem, jus the sms tones I cant seem to add to.....
Am using an O2 XDA Mini S, default ROM (with a few registry hacks and apps installed)
Any help is appreciated

they have to be 16 bit 44khz wav files to work as sms tones. use the excellent (free)audacity audio editor to convert

dmonik said:
they have to be 16 bit 44khz wav files to work as sms tones. use the excellent (free)audacity audio editor to convert
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will try that. i might have missed that setting.

Arrgh - Alarm Woes :(

Morning All,
I'm new to the forum (well posting) but have been reading the wealth of information on here for the past few weeks - this site is an awesome resource, I've learnt so much!
Anyway, I've had my Mini-S (wizard) a week now, and am mostly happy and impressed by it. I guess my main (few) annoyances are WM5 related, rather that with the device itself.
Anyway, I always use my phone as an alarm clock. I wanted to play an MP3 as the tone, so have converted one to wav, and saved in the windows directory.
I've set up my alarm schedule, for all weekdays at 6.30. Then click on the little bell icon and set the 'play sound' to my wav file, 'repeat sound' is unticked, 'flash light' is ticked, and vibrate is unticked.
But, for the past two mornings, all I get is the device sounding the standard notification alert tone, and popping up a message box for my alarm. Luckily my wife was awake this morning when it went off - as the tiny alert tone would never have woken me up.
Any ideas where I'm going wrong - I can't think what else I need to set for it to play that wav file????
Cheers all,
Paul

How is the wav file encoded? That may make a difference. Maybe you're using too high a bitrate. If you feel like buying a program, SPBTime is what I use, and it lets me specify MP3's as ringtones. Great prog. Only thing that'd make it better is if it supported WMA, but c'est la vie.

WAV file...
I assume that you can play the wav file thru media player on your device?
How big is the wav file?
Charlie Grillo

Hmm, I don't think the encoding or bitrate is a problem, as I can play the wav file fine, and when I select it in 'play sound' it plays just fine.
I also converted an mp3 clip to wav to use as an mms/sms message alert - and that works fine too.
My problem is not with assigning mp3's as ringtones, it's just with the blumin' alarm functionality in WM5. :evil:
Perhaps I should try a seperat alarm prog? Any suggestions....
It just bugs me that such a simple function should work without problems....

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I assume that you can play the wav file thru media player on your device?
How big is the wav file?
Charlie Grillo
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Hi Mate, yep - can play it fine.
It's <1MB I believe....

I've given up on Windows Mobile alarms about 2 years ago. I highly recommend this program which is ingeniously named Alarm Clock. And best of all, its freeware!

I also use my phone (Vario II / HTC Tytn) as my alarm clock but found that I couldn't get on very well with the standard WM5 alarms (I am very difficult to wake and need a heavy duty loud and constantly repeating alarm ... with snooze function ).
Instead of using WM5 alarms, I downloaded a freeware audio player named Mortplayer (Click here to go to Developers site) and it works brilliantly. It has lots of functions like increasing volume alarm, run playlist or particular file, snooze function at your own definable intervals etc.. really good little free program.

fone_fanatic said:
I've given up on Windows Mobile alarms about 2 years ago. I highly recommend this program which is ingeniously named Alarm Clock. And best of all, its freeware!
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Thanks - I'll give it a try

Installed and works a treat
Cheers all...

Changing Alarm and message sounds

ok. stupid newbie question...
how do i change the sound my phone makes when a message beeps thru to anything other than the bloody voice saying "you have new message"
also the alarm? can i make it an mp3 or WMA?
thanks- only had the phone 2 days.

MontAlbert said:
ok. stupid newbie question...
how do i change the sound my phone makes when a message beeps thru to anything other than the bloody voice saying "you have new message"
also the alarm? can i make it an mp3 or WMA?
thanks- only had the phone 2 days.
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Sometimes it helps if you use the manual!

thanks for your helpful reply!!
Dont you think i have read the manual from cover to cover- it doesnt say where i have to put the files for it to be used as the alarm tone or the message tone!!
THANKS

MontAlbert said:
thanks for your helpful reply!!
Dont you think i have read the manual from cover to cover- it doesnt say where i have to put the files for it to be used as the alarm tone or the message tone!!
THANKS
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Ok ok, put in /windows/Rings folder on your device.

it seems that you can only use .wav file format, is there any workaround to use .mp3, .mp4 or .wma files? wav audio format is so big it will be a complete waste of memory, btw. for alarms sound you must copy wav to \windows folder
Did you know that actual size of predefined .wav files in windows folder is almost 2MB and you can't delete it?

banesi said:
it seems that you can only use .wav file format, is there any workaround to use .mp3, .mp4 or .wma files? wav audio format is so big it will be a complete waste of memory, btw. for alarms sound you must copy wav to \windows folder
Did you know that actual size of predefined .wav files in windows folder is almost 2MB and you can't delete it?
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you can use mp3 and mp3 has smaller Filesize than wav. just use a good converter and use low bitrate. you can also cut mp3 files as you might do not want the whole 5th symphony for a ringing tone.

yeah- i got the ring tone to be changed to my favourite Hatebreed song but for the life of me cannot get it to change the alarm ring tone to something other than those included with the phone..... i used to have an edited mp3 as alarm tone for my sony-ericcson..... i am assuming this phone is better and can do that.......
any ideas to change the alarm tone?
thanks
Scott

saminegm said:
you can use mp3 ...
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Yes for ringtone but NOT for alarms and sms, if someone know how to do it please xplain ...

G'Day Guys,
You need to use .WAV files bummer I know as they are generally larger but it is the only way to use them.
Convert your MP3 files to .wav with a program such as Ease Audio Converter:
http://www.soft32.com/download_15987.html
Once converted, connect your phone to the USB Sync Cable and let is sync.
Once synced go to >my computer>mobile device>my windows mobile-based device>windows and place your .wav file in the windows folder.
It should convert the file for mobile windows format.
Then in your phone go >start>settings>sounds&notifications>notifications>events and select event, then associated sound.
or for alarm
>start>settings>system>clock & alarms>bell symbol and select sound.
I found that the sound file for the alarm cant be too long, at 17 sec it wouldnt work at 10sec it would................ Again I used "ease Audio converter" to clip the length of the wav file.
Hope this helps, spent many hours delving around on the net finding the answers.
Regards,
BIQ

can this be stickied or put in the wiki under common problems with the Trinity? just an idea

LightInsomnia said:
can this be stickied or put in the wiki under common problems with the Trinity? just an idea
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This is nothing to do with the Trinity as such- it is, and has been, universal with all Pocket PC/ Windows Mobile devices.
As the previous posters have said:
Ringtones can be WAV, MID, WMA or MP3 and need to be in the Windows/Rings folder. Later devices have other permissible locations, but Rings is univerfsal.
Other notifications must be WAV files, and preferably need to be 25KB or less. These need to be in the Windows folder, and are selected via the Settings/Sounds and Notifications control panel.
You can use MP3's as alarm, SMS and messaging tones, but you need add-on programs- SpB Time /Chronos etc for alarms, Ringo Mobile for SMS & Contacts etc.