Arrgh - Alarm Woes :( - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

Morning All,
I'm new to the forum (well posting) but have been reading the wealth of information on here for the past few weeks - this site is an awesome resource, I've learnt so much!
Anyway, I've had my Mini-S (wizard) a week now, and am mostly happy and impressed by it. I guess my main (few) annoyances are WM5 related, rather that with the device itself.
Anyway, I always use my phone as an alarm clock. I wanted to play an MP3 as the tone, so have converted one to wav, and saved in the windows directory.
I've set up my alarm schedule, for all weekdays at 6.30. Then click on the little bell icon and set the 'play sound' to my wav file, 'repeat sound' is unticked, 'flash light' is ticked, and vibrate is unticked.
But, for the past two mornings, all I get is the device sounding the standard notification alert tone, and popping up a message box for my alarm. Luckily my wife was awake this morning when it went off - as the tiny alert tone would never have woken me up.
Any ideas where I'm going wrong - I can't think what else I need to set for it to play that wav file????
Cheers all,
Paul

How is the wav file encoded? That may make a difference. Maybe you're using too high a bitrate. If you feel like buying a program, SPBTime is what I use, and it lets me specify MP3's as ringtones. Great prog. Only thing that'd make it better is if it supported WMA, but c'est la vie.

WAV file...
I assume that you can play the wav file thru media player on your device?
How big is the wav file?
Charlie Grillo

Hmm, I don't think the encoding or bitrate is a problem, as I can play the wav file fine, and when I select it in 'play sound' it plays just fine.
I also converted an mp3 clip to wav to use as an mms/sms message alert - and that works fine too.
My problem is not with assigning mp3's as ringtones, it's just with the blumin' alarm functionality in WM5. :evil:
Perhaps I should try a seperat alarm prog? Any suggestions....
It just bugs me that such a simple function should work without problems....

Re: WAV file...
cgrillo said:
I assume that you can play the wav file thru media player on your device?
How big is the wav file?
Charlie Grillo
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Hi Mate, yep - can play it fine.
It's <1MB I believe....

I've given up on Windows Mobile alarms about 2 years ago. I highly recommend this program which is ingeniously named Alarm Clock. And best of all, its freeware!

I also use my phone (Vario II / HTC Tytn) as my alarm clock but found that I couldn't get on very well with the standard WM5 alarms (I am very difficult to wake and need a heavy duty loud and constantly repeating alarm ... with snooze function ).
Instead of using WM5 alarms, I downloaded a freeware audio player named Mortplayer (Click here to go to Developers site) and it works brilliantly. It has lots of functions like increasing volume alarm, run playlist or particular file, snooze function at your own definable intervals etc.. really good little free program.

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I've given up on Windows Mobile alarms about 2 years ago. I highly recommend this program which is ingeniously named Alarm Clock. And best of all, its freeware!
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Thanks - I'll give it a try

Installed and works a treat
Cheers all...

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Rise and Shine

I'm having difficulty getting up in the morning! Does anyone know of a good alarm tool for the xda. The one that comes with it never seems to work/wake me up. The functionality is rubbish .
I have no problems whatsoever...
Be sure you checked the checkbox next to the desired alarm, and you selected the appropriate days the alarm will sound
-edit- Oh, and try a decent WAV file, I prefer the "Good Morning Charlie!" from Charlies Angels
hey,
i agree; the alarm function of the xda seems to be fine. i use the wav file from finding nemo where all those crazy seagulls keep on saying "mine! mine! mine!" that's when i want to be really awakened; but when i prefer to use an alarm but gently have it wake me up i use a wav file for a song with a soft opening.
you can always download a 3rd party alarm app such as stoptime; which comes with a timer, mirror, calendar and stopwatch program along with the alarm clock.
2 cents
robs
I tried this last night. However, the alarm only comes on for me when you switch the screen on. i.e if i set the alarm at 1.00pm. It wont go off. However, as soon as I switch it on the aralarm sounds. Am I doing something wrong?
Also I only have a limited selection of alarams. How do you add other wav files in?
Thanks
You may need the WakeUp Tweak program from:
http://www.burroak.on.ca/wm2k3tweaks.html
Thanks for that . I'll try it out, but maybe not on the weekend!
hey jupiter,
you can easily add wav files by simply while using activesync; just copy wav files and paste them into the windows folder of the xda. the wav files should then appear when you want to choose a sound for an alarm. however; do note that there are SOME wav files which don't seem to work. i did read in this forum that this has to do with the wav file format...whatever that is as i'm not familiar with it. but it does happen; some wav files don't work. sadly i can't find the forum thread where this was discussed.
cheers
robson
That works. Brilliant. Thanks
Some Wavs do not work because they are not in PCM WAV Format, more likely they are MPEG layer-3 WAV format.
Converting them is easy - using the windows sound recorder utility (sndrec32.exe), open the wav,
Click File->Properties
Click "Convert Now"
On the next screen, ensure the format drop-down is PCM, then change the attributes to whatever you want.
Personally I use 11.025 khz, 8 Bit, Mono

MIDI as Alarm

Hi,
I read that it is possible to have MIDI files as alarm sounds so i put a midi file i use on my old SE in the windows directory and when i go to choose the alarm tone i don't see it. is this supported in MDA Compact? what am i doing wrong? please advise. thanks
were did you read this? afaik... you can use midi, wav, mp3, wma for ringtones (via caller id app) windows mobile uses wav and wma for ringtones, but wav only for alerts. hope this helps.
I think it was on the AlarmToday user forum. i thought something was wrong. anyway, thanks for replying, it's a shame that midi cannot be used for alarms i don't think it's a technical or logical impossibility but microsoft works in mysterious ways i suppose. if there's a workaround or a program that would do this i would greately appreciate it if someone could point it out. once again, many thanks
Well, if you have a midi player for pocket pc installed you might be able to pull it off with AlarmToday.
On their site I read:
"Powerful custom alarms to play music (including complete songlists, MP3, WMA, OGG or Realplayer), open documents or applications and much more"
This should in theory make it possible to create an alarm event that starts the midi player software with the midi file of your choice.
Why not convert your midi file to wav it's very simple and then you can use it as an alert?
Do you know the wav file type is so much bigger than the other types of audio?
I sure do realize that but why would you need a whole song for an alert. Change the stereo to mono and 16 bit to 8 bit and trim it down to a length that it needs to be as an alert and it will not be much if any bigger than the midi file.
If you can't live with the shorter version then you should stay with midi because you are right they take up much lesss room, but I myself don't want a whole song played for an alert. The longest one I would ever use would be 2 seconds then let it repeat again for each alert.
If you use this procedure you can have many wav files as alerts.
I've had a recording studio here in Nashville TN since the early 80's and over the years I found out that if you will bend a little there is always a way to get what you want. Let me know if you need any help with turncating your wav files
Thanks for your thoughts
stratguy said:
I sure do realize that but why would you need a whole song for an alert. Change the stereo to mono and 16 bit to 8 bit and trim it down to a length that it needs to be as an alert and it will not be much if any bigger than the midi file.
If you can't live with the shorter version then you should stay with midi because you are right they take up much lesss room, but I myself don't want a whole song played for an alert. The longest one I would ever use would be 2 seconds then let it repeat again for each alert.
If you use this procedure you can have many wav files as alerts.
I've had a recording studio here in Nashville TN since the early 80's and over the years I found out that if you will bend a little there is always a way to get what you want. Let me know if you need any help with turncating your wav files
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I still use a SE P800 smartphone and what you just wrote is what I had to do. WAV files are big but with a bit of creativity in making an alert or ringtones it is just to easy. " Ask and you shall receive"
X-man germ
Cool by the way where did you get that last part of your handle "germ" are you a musician:?:
stratguy said:
Cool by the way where did you get that last part of your handle "germ" are you a musician:?:
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No, I am not a musician. My username is just a nick name from my first name and the germ part is only short for Germany.
Cool thanks, germ is a term we use in the music biz. Thats why I wonered :lol:
Maybe my music taste in "Rage against the Machine" which leads left can explain why I choose my name. Power to the People.
Wat Software do U use to do this? I am looking for a software that can transform anything in everything (mp3, wav) from original CD's. and cut them in small durations. I don't find that...
I use CDex, which BTW is a free program. I love it

Wav,Mp3 Wma in Alarms.

Hi ppc users and enthusiasts, i have a question that nobody has posted i thing, i have bem looking around xda and i didn't managed to get an answer. My Qtek S110 Jam_12.1_PTB doesn't acept no wav, mp3 or wma files as alarm tone altough i can use them as ringtone or anything else, yes, i can find and select the sound in the alarm select menu but it always goes to the Ring -Default-
Thanks for the help in advance as i know you guys can solve my and other people problem.Sorry my bad english
http://www.handango.com/PlatformPro...&platformId=2&N=96806&productId=81439&R=81439
Try some software that overtake the system default alarm handling and see if it works for you
Wav,Mp3 Wma in Alarms
Thanks, but actually i already instaled spb time which is the best for the simple task of alarming me to wake up. I really want to know why this stupid phone doesn't support mp3 and other formats in alarms, the audio codecs are the same to the whole system but why dont they work Rrrrrrr!
Does anyone wakes up with the alarm sound that it makes? or... as my self, wakes up with the vibration of the phone... i really don't get it...
Blame microsoft... just another thing i forgot to mention is that the screen should blink but it doesnt. why? i already hard reseted the phone, changed soft. version 1.11; 1.12.05; 1.12.10 WWW-PTB, nothing it just simply doesnt react. what i really wanted was a reg change to make it work, if the device uses a .dll to control the audio codecs it may be changed by reg and so we people dont have to give away another 10-20 bucks for a thing that should work from the begining. Help?
I'm probably plain stupid cause the alarm files are all wav & I can't think of any reason why the magician wouldn't accept them as an alarm tone. & surprise surprise it does actually work on my magician with 1.13 WWE rom. Tested with an own recording. MP3 didn't work with alarm, but does work on reminders, message reception etc. WMA not tested.
Cheers, M
Put that limitation down as something that would have improved with HTC Prophet
how do use mp3 as tones for messages? i tried moving mp3 to windows directory but i can find it in tones...
Hi nm8,
Does WindowsMediaPlayer play these mp3's? If not you have to get them in a format WMP can recognize, otherwise it won't work.
M
hi oltp
i just tried playing it with windows media player, and yes it cant be played. i originally ripped this from cd using windows media player from my desktop. its 192kbps. what are the settings to be used?
thanks
use this programm
http://burroak.on.ca/downloads/pta/pTravelAlarm.exe
s/n 278-3965-1190

SMS Ringtone Possible to have As MP3

I've searched the forum and found the correct place to select my message alerts however is it possible to select my own mp3 as a sms ringtone. i tried it but with no luck :x
Thanks
Although I've only barely looked into this, I could not get MP3 files working as "notifications" only ringtones. I even tried doing the old WAV-RIFF header on an MP3 file to see whether that worked, nope. In fact, I've tried all sorts of different WAV formats and none of the compressed ones (IMA/MS ADPCM etc) work, only plain old PCW uncompressed WAVs. WMA etc etc I've also tried, no avail, only WAV and MID files will show on the list and only uncompressed WAVs will play.
However, you can use mono instead of stereo and also drop sample rate to 22khz without any major loss of quality (considering the playback device ).
Basically, MIDI and WAV files in the \Windows\ dir of your Wizard are where the files are picked from for the drop down in notifications. If you add a standard MID or WAV to yours they will show in the list next time you access it (no reset required, just close and re-open notifications).
Whether notifications only support MIDI + WAV I've no idea, ultimately I just convert whatever sounds I need to a mono, 22khz, 16bit, PCM WAV, these end up more than small enough to not cause any lag and work perfectly as long as the sampel you're working with isn't too long.
If you only have the MP3 files and have no clue about what I'm saying then you need to do some reading possibly and grab a tool to convert your MP3's back to WAV.
Something like "CDEx" which is free and can recompress your MP3's directly to WAVs (configurable) will do fine and I've tested it at PCM/Uncompressed/22khz and the output WAVs work fine.
GL.
nice one mate, will give it a go
thanks Vap, worked through what you said and now have got my desired sms ringtone. thanks once again
Anyone tried Ringo Mobile 1.26?
Not only can you have mp3 sms tones but you can store them on your sd card.
I haven't tried it because I don't know how well it will go along with Phone Profiles which I also use, but I'm tempted to try.
Check it out on Handango
Phone Alarm
Phone Alarm from pocketmax.net works really fine has other great features too.
Kull: Tried it out and PA also plays mp3:s for text messages. Phone Alarm was really in awesome program. It's got a few bugs but it seems to be updated quite often. Thanks for the tip!
Re: Phone Alarm
kull said:
Phone Alarm from pocketmax.net works really fine has other great features too.
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I've tried to use PhoneAlarm, but when I've got it installed, it makes my Wi-Fi "unavailable"
Any ideas???
(Gigabyte g-Smart i128)
I don't have any issues with the wifi but I know there are some. This will be fixed by v 1.6 due any time now.
Re: Phone Alarm
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kull said:
Phone Alarm from pocketmax.net works really fine has other great features too.
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I've tried to use PhoneAlarm, but when I've got it installed, it makes my Wi-Fi "unavailable"
Any ideas???
(Gigabyte g-Smart i128)
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Haven't tried WiFi yet... busy getting a fix on the tones... ver 1.55 (beta) works fine with WAV tones.
Convert mp3 into ringtones using CDEx
Vap said:
While using CDEx to convert mp3 files to ringtones it is really important to follow Vap's advice. One will fail if one uses the standard setting for MP3->WAV conversion available in the program.
Here is what worked for my Charmer.
With a CDEx version 1.51 : go to Options, Settings, choose "Encoder" tab, in "Encoder" field choose "Windows MP3 Codec", in "Codec bitrate selection" choose "24 kBit/s, 22 050 Hz, mono" and you should be fine
Thanks Vap
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alarm app with mp3 support

Hi,
First of all, happy new year to everyone.
I am/was using AlarmToday as an alarm clock with Mp3 support.
But I noticed that this application does not work as expected and also has a lot of problems.
Now I am in the search of a simpler alarm application with mp3 support.
In fact, all I need is to be able to define daily or weekly alarms which would play an mp3 at a given time.
It should also support repeating alarms.
Can you please advise ?
Thanks.
no one requires such app ?
I'd thought that there would be a bunch of apps. But I couldn't find...
guys,
please...
I need advice.
I am very surprised that nobody is interested in this kind of application.
PocketAlarm is very useful, you can just look through your whole fon for mp3 or anything like that,
cheerz
is it this one ?
http://pocketalarm.iit-bsuir.com/indexen.htm
I have used Pocket Alarm before. While I choose not to use it as it crashed the device a few times, when it was working, I enjoyed it very much.
The default Windows Mobile 6 alarms are terrible.
Best of luck,
Cliff
I'm using GENTIMER 2.0 from Rivia software. It plays mp3, wav and wma alarms and is a very simple setup and interface, plus it has some skins. The best feature for me though is the "press and hold to SNOOZE"! Hope this helps.
Here is the link: http://rivia.net/Gentimer.aspx
thanks for yopur replies.
I'll try them
Try Mortplayer. It has a very good alarm feature and it even turns the volume of the phone tpo predefined level even if the phone is in silent or vibrate mode.
thanks;
I will try that as well.
I think SPB Time also has an alarm clock that can play mp3 and other sound files.
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/time/

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