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Keyboard backlight time

I know some people wanted to increase the keyboard backlight time. In case this hasnt been posted already, mad monkey has a cab for it:
http://www.dweiniger.com/tips/k-jam.shtml

No i have not seen this posted. tried on my qtek did not work - does it work on your device. i have seen a hack for the universal not wizard
cheers

nope this don't work on the T-Mobile MDA (US model)

Is it supposed to be a DWORD value? Anyone has gotten this to work?

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Is it supposed to be a DWORD value? Anyone has gotten this to work?
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No joy here

didnt work either on 2.8

nope - doesn't work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38314

You would think someone at HTC would know how to do it. Do any of those guys/girls post on this forum?

not that I've ever seen - not on any of the official retailer sites either. good luck
p.s. the question might not be 'how to do it' but 'can it be done'

yeah, I'm beginning to believe that the whole thing is completely implemented with hardware: a keypress starts a LED "On" timer. This is also why the kbd doesn't illuminate when it gets extended. Even though WM senses this and flips to landscape, it has no control over the backlight: It takes a keypress to start the timer circuit that illuminates the backlight you see.
bummer.

Sleuth255 said:
This is also why the kbd doesn't illuminate when it gets extended. Even though WM senses this and flips to landscape, it has no control over the backlight: It takes a keypress to start the timer circuit that illuminates the backlight you see.
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Working under the assumption that it is indeed in-hardware, there would've been nothing to prevent the engineers from making the magnetic switch enable the backlight, too
Working under the assumption that it's purely software, there should be nothing to prevent WM5 from doing this... other than that nobody has coded it to do so
Working under the assumption that it's hardcoded in the driver, somebody would have to hack the driver to extend the backlight; adding functionality to turn the backlight on would be a bit more difficult.

ZeBoxx said:
Working under the assumption that it is indeed in-hardware, there would've been nothing to prevent the engineers from making the magnetic switch enable the backlight, too
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I'll give you "glass half full" on that one :wink:.
However.... the magnetic switch would be more difficult to implement than a simple key press which also resets a timer circuit. You'd have to tie that additional input into a circuit that could be hard-wired with the keyboard itself.
there's my "glass half empty" viewpoint.... I've just got a bad feeling on this one..... sorry.
I guess I'm going to have to take a closer look at some of the disassembled wizard pictures to make up my mind on this.
I sure hope a way is found to fix this as well as control those other blinking leds.....

well the point was, basically, there already -is- a magnetic switch. It's used to signal the OS that the keyboard has extended, and allow it to react on that; the chosen reaction being that the screen orientation is changed.
There would be nothing whatsoever stopping the engineers who actually put the thing together (not talking about somebody taking it apart and tinkering in there and whatnot) to have hooked that up to the backlight control /if/ that is in hardware %)
And if it's in software, then nothing would have technically stopped the software developers from making the keyboard slide-out trigger the backlight that way; assuming they already do as much on keypresses.

exactly. But the kbd does't light up when you extend it you see.... This behavior shoud be obvious

ok weird doesnt even put this into perspective ... i edited that value and softreset my phone. backlight timeout is still 5 seconds and now my bottom ( previously skinned) bar has gone back to default colours ... tried removing the value and resetting again had no effect either ... lovely hack this is now i can try and figure out why the hell this just happened ... running newest official qtek rom only for info

I think this is one of the largest downsides to this device. When I pull the keyboard out the lights should come on AND it should be longer then 5 seconds. It would also be nice if it had a light sensor (like on the SMT5600) to know if the light SHOULD come on or not.
If someone (or HTC) would fix this it would be awesome.

oh, they'll fix it - for their next device models The Universal already works that way, and you can tweak the backlight time. I'm sure by now they've gotten all the feedback they need to decide that that is better than the fixed behavior of the Wizard (not sure who at HTC ever figured that would be a good idea to begin with).

[new release] VJPlumBum (HERMES ONLY) - Xmas Time

Guys, a minor distraction, to get us in the mood for Christmas..
Recommended for Hermes only.
It works on the Universal too, but looks odd.
It might work on the Wizard, but is not recommended.
It should work on all recent HTC WM5 devices, but I can't guarantee.
For those who don't want to play, you're not missing much, move along
V
VJPlumBum

PS Turn your volume up.
V

It made me smile, thank you!
I had to SR after it because the left LED started to blink green instead of right, and I've lost BT indication, which was left blue before, and nothing after this app.

Sorry, about that. That was the whole point actually, it was a test of some code I wrote to control the other leds. You'll have to soft reset to get proper led indications again, but you don't have to, everything will continue to work, just leds will be off.
V

vijay555 said:
Guys, a minor distraction, to get us in the mood for Christmas..
Recommended for Hermes only.
It works on the Universal too, but looks odd.
It might work on the Wizard, but is not recommended.
It should work on all recent HTC WM5 devices, but I can't guarantee.
For those who don't want to play, you're not missing much, move along
V
VJPlumBum
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The plum worked but not the bumming led's on my wizard V! Peace

Yeah, I don't have any reference material for the Wizard. It's tested and designed for Hermes because the two colour and tri colour LEDs are next to each other, which makes for a much sexier effect...
V

vijay555 said:
Yeah, I don't have any reference material for the Wizard. It's tested and designed for Hermes because the two colour and tri colour LEDs are next to each other, which makes for a much sexier effect...
V
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Cheers V - i will test on my brothers hermes when i next see him.
Take care

works on my spv m700 (trinity)
strangly i think this is a useful tool. I hate flashing leds so when it turns off the lights at the end it leaves them off. This is better than the registry hack as I don't loose vibrate on the ringing.
whilst I love the close encounters bit, can you make this into a little wizard so we can choose which led to turn off or reset to normal behaviour.
this is because i want all the leds off except the blue one which i prefer to leave on as I don't like to leave BT running all the time.
Don't need to know my phone is charging or that there is some notices, notification alert or alarm. (when its in my pocket Im not going to see it!)
thanks Vijay

Buttons not lighting up

Can anyone shed any light on why my buttons, just the ones on the unit itself, aren't producing their lovely orange glow anymore? The d-pad light still works, but the OK, Win & browser buttons are dark.
The only thing I could think of was that I installed SBSH, like everything because I'm fed up with Spb, so I uninstalled w/ several reboots. Still no go.
Maybe it's better that way. Less battery drain. It's not like I can't find them, but they were cute. My 3-year-old daughter loves the orange.
UPDATE:
I never did figure out what it was. Between booting up with PhoneAlarm, UltimateLaunch, MccMoblieFinder, LivePVR (which I'm not sure works) something crashed, so I hard reset.
I did figure out after my reset that the backlight doesn't actually go all the way off; when the buttons are off the screen is as dim as it's going to get (and now with rk-backlight, I am finally free of SPB - they lost thier robustitude with newer OSs and everyone else seems to have caught up with thier graphics, but with a smaller footprint.)

Does your backlight work? i always thought it was just the backlight shining through the buttons.
Well, no, actually I've never really thought about it.
Mine are off until the backlight comes on then they are on.

I noticed the other day that mine had gone off too, but a soft reset sorted it.

keyboard backlights!!!
Janis said:
Can anyone shed any light on why my buttons, just the ones on the unit itself, aren't producing their lovely orange glow anymore? The d-pad light still works, but the OK, Win & browser buttons are dark.
The only thing I could think of was that I installed SBSH, like everything because I'm fed up with Spb, so I uninstalled w/ several reboots. Still no go.
Maybe it's better that way. Less battery drain. It's not like I can't find them, but they were cute. My 3-year-old daughter loves the orange.
UPDATE:
I never did figure out what it was. Between booting up with PhoneAlarm, UltimateLaunch, MccMoblieFinder, LivePVR (which I'm not sure works) something crashed, so I hard reset.
I did figure out after my reset that the backlight doesn't actually go all the way off; when the buttons are off the screen is as dim as it's going to get (and now with rk-backlight, I am finally free of SPB - they lost thier robustitude with newer OSs and everyone else seems to have caught up with thier graphics, but with a smaller footprint.)
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HI GUYS,
A late entry but tot u guys might b able to help a brother in need, my Ameo's keyboard back light never seems to come on EVER, & have check for setting or cab files but all to no success, can any1 help PLEASE either by just replying on here or PM me please :-(.

Umm, the ameo keyboard doesn't have a backlight???

Backlight off
there's rk-backlight.exe
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328114&highlight=backlight
check the Settings/system/backlight
The backlight on a working x7500/1 doesn't actually go all the way off, the screen does (standby), and the buttons do when it's in it's more-or-less "off" state (the buttons are off, and the system calls the state "off" but it's just really low.)
If you can see the screen, but there really is NO backlight, my suggestions in this order:
a soft reset
install a backlight contolling software like rk-backlight & set it
a hard reset
a flash of a new rom
send it in to ppctechs.com for repair

keyLeds and lock the buttons

Sorry for my bad english.
So I will start new.
Is it possible to syncron the leds for the buttons with the leds on the display. So both lights goes off and on in the same time!
Also I have problems with the “Send Key” and “End Key”. Often, when I get a inCall I push the sendkey-button (but I have the phone in the trouser pocket)! So any solution to lock the buttons from the phone with the display in same time!
Regards

i dont understand one word in the whole topic

rbadal said:
i dont understand one word in the whole topic
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Not sure, but i think he/she wants a SW answer-key, and disable the HW buttons.

Hi, i think he just want to have the keypad on, with the screen.
Isn't it ?
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

He wants the led's of the keypad (send,end,back,home) to turn on and off in unison with the screen, and to disable the send key's function of answering calls.
Dont you guys speak gibberish?
Just playin'
But unfortunately, I know of no way of making either of these things possible.
The led's took the dev's a decent amount of work just to get them working as well as they do now.
And maybe theres an app that disables the send key answer function, but I am unaware of it.

for leds light right. i have for the old winmobile a patch to get the lights syncron with display!
best
mister

Completely disable button backlights?

Hey guys,
I've searched but I can't find an answer. I'm using an Incredible S ROM on my HD2 at the moment that leaves the hardware keys constantly on when the screen is on - I don't like this, and don't ever need the backlight for the keys as I know where they are now. Is there any way I can disable this totally?
Thanks,
Zuka

Bumpity bump

zukа said:
Hey guys,
I've searched but I can't find an answer. I'm using an Incredible S ROM on my HD2 at the moment that leaves the hardware keys constantly on when the screen is on - I don't like this, and don't ever need the backlight for the keys as I know where they are now. Is there any way I can disable this totally?
Thanks,
Zuka
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Hey,
if your build is using the same init script as rafdroid you can try this:
create a file called "config.txt" on the root of your sdcard copy/type this line: auto_btn_backlight=0 - then reboot.
this is also worked with dandiest builds, so Might work for you.

Hi, thanks for your reply
I'm not running one of Raf's or Dandiest's ROMs, mine doesn't have an init script so this won't work. Is there any other way? Seeing as those ROMs have different button backlight drivers I'm assuming there has to be a way to control their on/off states

I'm not trying to be annoying by bumping, but this keeps falling off the radar and I'm sure there's a way to do this, if anyone could point me in the right direction that'd be awesome

zukа said:
I'm not trying to be annoying by bumping, but this keeps falling off the radar and I'm sure there's a way to do this, if anyone could point me in the right direction that'd be awesome
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Sound like an unstable ROM. My only advice is to try a different one. If you like pure android you can try tytung's ROM. It's the best, just follow my sig.

...what?
Why does my ROM sound unstable? The button backlights aren't actually causing a problem, I just don't need them. Ever. I'm looking for a way to disable them, but I like (love) my ROM after months of searching

zukа said:
Hi, thanks for your reply
I'm not running one of Raf's or Dandiest's ROMs, mine doesn't have an init script so this won't work. Is there any other way? Seeing as those ROMs have different button backlight drivers I'm assuming there has to be a way to control their on/off states
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Hey
guessed u didnt have a rom from raf or dandi, they havent released an Incredible S build yet.
mind telling us which Incredible S you have or is it a secret
& you are right, it has nothing to do with stability, its the newer light drivers, this was implemented to fix the led notifications, not sure if you can change this (always on) behavior without going back to the old drivers.
p.s. how do you know your build doesnt have an init script, have you tried the config.txt?

Hey mate,
I'm using Korand's stripped down Incredible S build - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1019489
The reason I'm assuming it doesn't have an init script is because, apart from the battery percentage icon, I think everything else is stock, judging from Korand's first psot. It's hard to tell because there's not much support for the ROM
I wouldn't mind going back to the old light drivers though, or just rendering both the notification LEDs and button backlights inoperable. Don't use either really

bumpity bumpity yeah

zukа said:
Hey guys,
I've searched but I can't find an answer. I'm using an Incredible S ROM on my HD2 at the moment that leaves the hardware keys constantly on when the screen is on - I don't like this, and don't ever need the backlight for the keys as I know where they are now. Is there any way I can disable this totally?
Thanks,
Zuka
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Theres an app in android market for that...its called "ADJ Brightness" which basically allows yoy to adjust and lock the screen brightness. It can be set to extremely low (much lower than android lowest setting...or extremely high, again higher than android default max
But if you hit menu then chose "options" there near the bottom you will see the option to Lock the button lights OFF...works a treat and saves me a lot of battery jiuce. Also in this options menu you can chose to have the little charging led either On or Off...I find this used in conjunction with "button saviour" and another app that allows me to wake the phone with the volume rocker means i dont need to use the H/W keys at all
Dont know if this is what your after but hopefully it may help.

Thanks Con, I installed the app
It does let me control the hardware buttons, allows me to turn them off, but whenever I press them they just come back on again, despite checking "always off" in the settings
But at least this shows that they can be controlled, even on an HD2
any other ideas?

Ah, sorry zuka, i have only just noticed this as well...yes it seems the backlight does reactivate when i again use the buttons. However i am using Rafdroid 4.2 rom which allows the backlight to off after 10 seconds. So i guess your issue does lie within your rom
I no longer use the hardware buttons (or very rarely) instead i opt to use the onscreen replacments within button savior, Which is why i didnt notice that the backlight does re-activate when the buttons are used...this seems to overide the adj.bright app. But like i say my light is only on for 10 secs or not at all using adj & BS.
Sorry dude am at a loss as to how you could fix this as it does sound frustrating

Nah, thanks for your reply anyway. It's not like this is a horrible bug, it's just annoying because I don't want the hardware buttons at all, I know that they can be controlled but I just can't figure out how to keep the damn things off...
if anybody has any other ideas, I'd welcome them. at this point I'm stumped

Has anybody been thinking about this for a while and has a solution?

Hey
ADJ Brightness should do the work for you
just play with the setting( Menu-option)
lock screen brightness, so it stays off.
good luck
tried this app a while a go and it solved this problem.