hi,
i am looking into purchasing a htc prohpet ppc phone. expansys has the i-mate jamin and the qtek s200. i realize that, at least on the inside, the devices are identical.
i would like to know if anyone has had the chance to compare them. are they exactly the same except the logo or are there some differences. for example, i noticed that qtek mentions their scratch resistant surface, is i-mat ethe same ?
thanks for any comments on these two devices,
scott
The hardware will be identical apart from the logo. Even the scratch resistant surface. Where there may differ is how each will add value by adding useful applications like SPB GPRS Monitor and other such things.
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I want to buy new PPC, what would you choose, Wizard or Ipaq 6515?
Also, I have an offer to change my 2-years old Qtek 2020 for Ipaq 6515 and to add 300EUR. Is that good offer?
Well I'd say your going to get some biased opinions because you posted in the Wizard forum, but heres my opinion.
I was considering the 6515 before the K-JAM came out, but decided against it (also before the release of the K-JAM) because of two things:
* No WiFi
* Square 240x240 screen
One of the benefits of the thumboard (apart from being faster and easier to type on) is that there is no input panel taking up a 1/3 of the screen.
I am very happy with my K-JAM, and have no doubt that I made the right decision.
Well, I like the size of the K-jam and also bigger screen.
Yep, the K-JAM is a good size, particularly considering it combines the keyboard, wifi, phone and full size screen into it.
I had a 6515, and liked it well enough. I now have a K-JAM. No comparison. I like the K-JAM much better. Small form factor, better keyboard (IMHO), "full" screen, more memory, WM5.
Unless you have a burning need for built-in GPS, go with the K-JAM.
Steve
Well, I have ordered 9100 afterall Coming on friday. Costs me a lot more than I expected but what a hell
Was reading through another forum today and someone was asking about the O2 Atom and I-Mate JAMin. I knew about the atom but hadn't heard anything about the JAMin :shock:
Thought I'd do a search on the trusty xda-developers forum and found it actually comes under the Prophet group :? why??? isn't it just the replacement of the Jam as the Atom is to the mini??
Anyway looks like some research ahead me!
marto
No....the Atom is not even made by HTC.
Strictly speaking, the Charmer replaces the Magician, the Prophet is something else. Various providers seem to have done different things though. T-Mobile brought out the Comact-II which is a Charmer. O2 brough out the Atom, I-Mate brought out the Jamin (Prophet) Orange have brought out the M600 (also a Prophet) etc etc etc.
Each has replaced their variations on the Magician in thier own way.
WOW thats certainly a handfull, thanks TheBrit
Explains why I haven't seen any comparisions as there in two different threads areas. :?
Although I haven't had a chance to fully read up on both it appears the Atom has major phone issues like echo, etc. and the JAMin has had multi ROM updates suggesting there are ongoing issues they are concerned about.... :shock:
Anyone got any -/+ feedback on these puppies?
marto
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WOW thats certainly a handfull, thanks TheBrit
Explains why I haven't seen any comparisions as there in two different threads areas. :?
Although I haven't had a chance to fully read up on both it appears the Atom has major phone issues like echo, etc. and the JAMin has had multi ROM updates suggesting there are ongoing issues they are concerned about.... :shock:
Anyone got any -/+ feedback on these puppies?
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I checked out the Atom in a store recently and did not like it. The very shiny case was literally covered in fingerprints, and the screen image seemed washed out (contrast too high) and the image did not use up all of the space. In short, I was disappointed.
I'm hoping to check out the JAMin tomorrow (in a store in Sydney), and have heard that the latest ROM really brings the device up to speed at last. Note that the Atom has an Intel processor and the JAMin a TI OMAP processor, so they really are different gadgets.
Hi Peter,
Thanks for that The info I'm finding on the 2 units certainly supports your comments.
I look forward to hearing how your adventures go with the JAMin, I haven't found any stockests in Perth yet (like there's a surprise ).
marto
JAMin the Atom
In short, bought an Atom, great speakers, A2DP, and that is about it. Bluetooth weak, no voice dial through headset, no external aerial (the latter killed it for me as I am often in weak radio areas). Shiny case looks good, but don't pick it up without gloves. Now on third ROM. It is stable however, but camera is crap!
Bought JAMin. Even though JAMin is 195Mhz and Atom is 416MHz, hardly any difference. JAMin has great Bluetooth (no A2DP though Grrr), Voice dials, and soft keys make 1 handed operation possible. Screens about the same, Camera slightly better.
If you can live without FM radio and dual speakers, go JAMin and pocket $200.
Cheers.
Thinking of getting one of them, which one is a better device? Since both of there are basically the same device with different housing, is it possible for me to flash atom's ROM to rw6828 and vice versa just like those prophet like dopod 818pro, imate jamin and qdek s200?
One more question, do I really need 192mb ROM in atom exec or 128mb in atom is sufficient enough?
Get the HP my friend, the Atom and Atom Exec have faulty LCD screens. I know because I have had 3 Atoms and 2 Exec's replaced and the devices still squeal like a mosquito. O2 is horrible to deal with each time the device needs to be sent away you can expect it to be gone for at the very least a month and they do not give extended warranty for the time spent at the service centre.
Hi homer285, thanks for your reply, just curious, if there is LCD problem in atom/exec then HP should suffer the same since they are sharing the same device except for the housing and design. Anyway, I am testing the HP now, so far so good except for the wifi range and battery life...
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Hi homer285, thanks for your reply, just curious, if there is LCD problem in atom/exec then HP should suffer the same since they are sharing the same device except for the housing and design. Anyway, I am testing the HP now, so far so good except for the wifi range and battery life...
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Not necassarily true, I am yet to hear the HP has this problem and I think you'll find there's more than just housing and design difference.
Borrow one unit rw6828 back for testing, the wifi reception not very good, I have Apple Airport Express in my study room next to my bedroom, the signal only one bar where my 4 yrs old Toshiba notebook has 4 bars. Battery life also not very good, having the phone in standby mode for about 6 hours (played 2 songs, make and received 3-4 short phone calls), the battery drain from 100% to 49%. Does Atom did the same?
O2 Atom or HP 6828 (I've found something better!)
Hi All,
After having the O2 Atom for 3 weeks, I've decided to sell it off. I hate to say this, I have been a firm supporter of O2 from the days of XDAII to the days of O2 Mini, but I am sad to say O2 Atom is the worst of the lot I have ever used. I don't think it can get any worse (hmm maybe I am wrong and it can get worse?!). Maybe all the good phones are by HTC and this real bad one is by Quatar (or is it spelt that way? Who cares, I'm never gonna buy any phone from that manufacturer again).
This is what I have found bad about the Atom:
1) Bad design of hardware buttons (both O2 & HP)
- Why would any manufacturer design a hardware that doesn't take advantage of the new OS?? WM5 was design with ease of use in mind with the introduction of the left/right hardware keys (much like the nokia h/keys).
- Imagine you get the latest OS but you still have to touch the screen to access those quick menus, is this dumb or what?!
2) FM Radio is almost useless (reception & design)
- Poor reception (my pocket radio gets better reception, but then again this is a PDA phone so what the heck ..)
- Poor design because you need to have the wired headset attached to it when you want to hear the radio!
3) Cheap Plastic Cover
- Reminds me of the USD2 cheap nokia cover made in china (both the HP & Atom) squeaks, both the top and bottom does not allign properly
- I personally feel that both the XDAII & Mini built is much better (feels more solid)
- For the price you are paying for the Atom Exec, we should be getting the state of the art carbon fibers casing.
After I have sold it off, I have moved on to the Dopod 838pro. Any regrets? Other than the steep price (hey it's only USD100 more that then Atom Exec..) & microSD, it's a dream phone!!
Specs:
- GSM 850/900/1800/1900, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G)
- 13 hardware keys (1 dedicated video call key)
- a side slide out keyboard (w smart backlight) & Real Wheel (not jog dail)
- 2M pixel camera
- 802.11g Wi-Fi (802.11b compatible)
- 128mb flash 64mb RAM
... I can't ask for more. So .. for those planning to get an Atom Exec ... I would strongly recommend you check out the 838 Pro or in some place it's called the TyTN, HTC hermes, O2 Trion, Qtek 9600, iMate JasJam etc ..
HP 6828 Battery issue can be solved
Well you can certainly address the battery issue on the 6828 with success. Find help thru the link here
could it be possible that a T-mobile MDA VArio is a wiza100?
i am looking for a defective unit since i need it for parts for my dopod 838(wiza100) and could the hardware or main board parts be used from the MDA Vario to the dopod 838?
any reply would mean great help. thanks.
On the home page of xda-devs forum it lists all the other names that devices may be known as. According to the front page of this forum, yes the dopod 838 is also known as the MDA Vario. As far as I know parts are interchangable regardless of what branding they may have.
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On the home page of xda-devs forum it lists all the other names that devices may be known as. According to the front page of this forum, yes the dopod 838 is also known as the MDA Vario. As far as I know parts are interchangable regardless of what branding they may have.
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Software wise they are 100% the same..hardware wise there are minor differences between some of the models..for instance the stylus on cingular 8125 and tmobile MDA (vario) is not the same..the keyboard is slightly different...you may have problems using some of the parts..outer casing etc.
I am concerned if the parts of the board is the same for both the mda vario and cingular 8125/dopod 838. I need an IC component for the USB module and i found a vario that has a broken LCD, i was wondering if the electronic components of a wiza100 and the wiza200 would be the same or compatible?
Hi,
Firstly, I'm new to this forum, so hello to everyone! It looks like a place I'll visit often
I recently bought a 2nd hand i-mate JAMin. I'd never used a PDA/mobile combo before and now I have one I love it! But I've only had it a week and yesterday the screen broke!
I was looking for replacement screens on ebay - I found a company that sold many types of replacement lcd but I couldn't see i-mate JAMin in their list - I emailed them to ask if they stock any and they simply replied "no, we don't". Then I learned that the JAMin is an HTC Prophet and that this is also sold as the "Orange SVP M600" and the "Qtek S200". This very same ebay seller *does* sell replacement screens for the Orange SVP M600!!! - they currently have 10 in stock!
If I buy an Orange SVP M600 screen will it fit my i-mate JAMin, or not?
Same goes for the Qtek S200 ... can I use the screen (or case / battery etc.) from a Qtek S200 in my i-mate?
Finally - yesterday I saw some step-by-step photo instructions on how to disassemble the JAMin and replace the screen. It looks a bit tricky but I reckon I can manage it. However, the written instructions were in a foreign language... does anyone have a link to a good quality disassembly guide? (and can anyone let me know what type of screwdriver I need to undo those little hexagonal screws?)
EDIT: I found this link elsewhere on this site http://www.modaco.com/content/prophet-prophet-modaco-com/240109/changing-you-prophet-case/
Thanks in advance for any help or advice!
I emailed that ebay shop again asking if they are sure that their Orange SVP M600 replacement LCDs would not be compatible with my i-mate JAMin since both PDAs are an HTC Prophet inside. This is the reply I got ...
The ribbon colours can be different, so these LCD are not the same.
But we just got in stock lcd for Jamin, so you can order this Orange SPV M600 replacement LCD display screen and make note that this should be for JAMIN and we will pick correct ribbon colour
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Does this "ribbon colour" thing fit with anyone else's experiences?
It seems a bit odd that the day I ask if JAMin and SVP M600 screens are the same they suddenly get stock of JAMin screens and they want me to order a JAMin screen by buying a SVP M600 screen and telling them it's for JAMin!
Either way, I'm currently bidding on a different 'spare-screen' auction... if I don't win that I guess I'll order from these guys in the way they've described.