Hi
Can this be done....When in options I cannot seem to find the way to assign a specific ringtone to a specific number / contact and / or group.
Arjan
use ringtoneX from http://www.mtux.com. you can assign it to contacts and phone numbers
shareez
I agree Ringtone X is a lovely little application that let's you assign different tones by name, group, or number plus you can assign the default ringtone to specific numbers as well.
The current version can also play a variety of sound formats including midi, wma and wav.
Ed
you can also use a little very good freeware called PhonExt
http://phonext.oabsoftware.nl/
allow you to create and manage group ringtones and to assign personal ringtones to users.
can also be used for quick dialing with the today plugin.
Have Fun
B0b
Cyberb0b said:
you can also use a little very good freeware called PhonExt
http://phonext.oabsoftware.nl/
allow you to create and manage group ringtones and to assign personal ringtones to users.
can also be used for quick dialing with the today plugin.
Have Fun
B0b
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Does it support the usual PPC 2003 ringtone formats, of wav, midi, AND wma though mate first?
I tried PhoneExt and it doesn't seem to work in WM2003
I also tried Phonext on my i-mate. The ringtone assignment doesn't seem to work on pocket pc os. The search contacts function works fine.
Any opinion on this?
i m using phonext on my XDA2 win2003 for a long time and i have no problem at all. i previously used it on my XDA 1 under windows 2002 and 2003 and i never had problems
i store my .wav in the /windows/ring directory and assign in my contact the ringtone i want to be play.
I did not try with .mid or wma i only use small .wav files
it works just fine.
just one thing : make a shortcut of the phonext.exe and drop it in the window startup so the the application run when you reboot
Cyberb0b said:
i m using phonext on my XDA2 win2003 for a long time and i have no problem at all. i previously used it on my XDA 1 under windows 2002 and 2003 and i never had problems
i store my .wav in the /windows/ring directory and assign in my contact the ringtone i want to be play.
I did not try with .mid or wma i only use small .wav files
it works just fine.
just one thing : make a shortcut of the phonext.exe and drop it in the window startup so the the application run when you reboot
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wav wav wav...
Everyone keeps referring to wavs, but it seems no one is prepared to answer the question...
Does this application allow the normal PPC2003/WM2003 assignment of wma and mid files.
You and many others might still be using large wav files.
But the rest of us with WM2003 elect to utilise the much smaller and better quality wma files.
So asking yet again...
Does this application support wma files.
'Cos if the answer is no, it's usless to us.
So, anyone want to answer this time please folks?
well i can now answer to you now, i ve made some of a testing yesterday.
phonext only deals with wav, no wma nor mid files.
sorry dude
B0b
hhhmm better quality wma files as ring tones ?
yes mp3 and wma can be made to sound almost as good as a cd
but as a ring tone it's being played by the speaker of the xda
which is pretty low quality small speaker
it's pretty overkill
heck i bet you could take a wav file and make it mono and 8bit and changed the sample rate to 11Khz and would still be ok for a ring tone
that s how i encode my wav files, sounds good and quality is more than acceptable for me.
usually i got less than 150 K per ringtone for a 20 sec ring tone
Rudegar said:
hhhmm better quality wma files as ring tones ?
yes mp3 and wma can be made to sound almost as good as a cd
but as a ring tone it's being played by the speaker of the xda
which is pretty low quality small speaker
it's pretty overkill
heck i bet you could take a wav file and make it mono and 8bit and changed the sample rate to 11Khz and would still be ok for a ring tone
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Hi Rudegar mate.
I'm originally an Orange SPV E200 user...
Had this since October last year.
Done more tests between wav, and wma, than i would care to go into.
Modaco Smartphone website covers this issue to death, with loads of users chipping in.
The completely unanimous agreement?
WMA is the better file format to use, for the balance between quality and file-size.
Proven. Not speculation. But as ever, each is free to decide for themselves. All I am saying is that in a debate that has ALREADY ran for ages in relation to another device, the consensus is this conclusion.
Let me point out, that if you use a low quality wav, you can use wma to make an equivalent 'low' quality tone, but at a smaller file size.
If you want high quality wav, you can use wma to encode in VBR 320K, and get a superb high quality tone, but STIll at a smaller file size than a very high quality wav file.
So its entirely up to you what quality you opt for - all I am saying is that once you settle on the quality level you like, using a wma file at a generally equivalent quality will result in a smaller file size.
Not fish-wife's tale mate, accepted fact, hence why compressed file formats such as mp3 and wma are used the world over - a decent enough quality for audio, and much smaller file sizes.
The wma files that I use... they are 96K quality, around 40 seconds long each (took me ages to create my catalogue, but I've been doing this for a long time remember). They are all around 500K file size.
If I were to utilise wav files instead, to do them at a quality that was acceptable on the phone/XDA2, they would weigh in at around 2MB.
Shadamehr
with my wma encoder i have one handle which is bitrate
with a wav editor i have
sample rate
mono / stereo
16bit vs. 8bit
and Cyberb0b (even though i havent heard that 150K ring tone of his) have a 20sec ring tone as wav
personaly when i store music on my xda2 using wma i do it in 64K/b sec which is not the best quality for listening to music but it's be all means way overkill for playing a ring tone using the nonheadset speaker of my xda2
suppose it can in some ways be compared to
everybody know that jpg is better then bmp
but if i were to draw a picture in pain using black on the white
saving my picture as 2bit bmp is WAY better an option then saving it
as jpg
with screenshots in windows gif as a rule is a better format then jpg
and with these 2 examples i'm speaking both quality and size
I use wma 64 as ringtones and i will NEVER use wav..
and i can tell the difference between 64wma and 32wma through xda ii speaker.. this speaker is not total crap.. it's the best ive ever heard in a pocket pc/phone.. even when watching movies and clips i cant use anything less than wma 64..
IMHO more than wma 64 is useless(when using the speaker)
and less than wma 64 is noticeable (when using the speaker)
i suppose what one use as ring tone also mean a great deal
i mean if somebody use a song or their own voice yelling to pick up the phone
compared to one who found some ring tone like an old type of phone they once had and use that
or a dog barking or .......
Shameless plug.
I've some ring tones encoded in WMA available from my website.
Cheerio
Howard
it might be better with WMA, but i do not listen to my rigntones all day long, i just need a cool sound to recognise who is calling me in the daily noisy diturbance.
Usually i even use 4 or 5 sec repeting sound making wav no bigger than 20 or 40 ko as the sample file included.
i m sure wma is better, but i might use that to listen to music, i do not care my ringtones have or not a CD quality
and as far as phonext is the only free soft i have found to assign ringtones to contacts i ll continue this way.
maybe the developper of the app will release a new one including wma, i hope so....
if some one got a better free soft for assigning ringtones to contact and creating groups, i will follow
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Shadamehr
with my wma encoder i have one handle which is bitrate
with a wav editor i have
sample rate
mono / stereo
16bit vs. 8bit
and Cyberb0b (even though i havent heard that 150K ring tone of his) have a 20sec ring tone as wav
personaly when i store music on my xda2 using wma i do it in 64K/b sec which is not the best quality for listening to music but it's be all means way overkill for playing a ring tone using the nonheadset speaker of my xda2
suppose it can in some ways be compared to
everybody know that jpg is better then bmp
but if i were to draw a picture in pain using black on the white
saving my picture as 2bit bmp is WAY better an option then saving it
as jpg
with screenshots in windows gif as a rule is a better format then jpg
and with these 2 examples i'm speaking both quality and size
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Rudegar,
Send me ANY of your wav file ringtones.
I'll encode them into wma audio, and the quality will be comparably the same (certainly no pronounced noticeable deterioration), and they will be smaller file size.
And that being the case, then why would anyone use wav that doesn't have to?
Why do you think it was such a sought after feature of WM2003 - wma tones?
To have tones of comparable quality, but at lower filesize.
Yes, of course its not a lossless compression format (though little known fact, neither is wav!).
But it IS a format that can be reduced in file size considerably, with virtually no noticeable difference in quality.
Audiophiles can supposedly tell the difference at the HIGHER end of the quality scale (though I have to admit I can't), but it was always accepted that at the lower end, no real difference could be noticed.
So, if you can save a tone in a two formats, either of which SOUND much the same, but one is a lot smaller file size than the other, which would you use?
well i dont have any ring tones well non that i use anyhow
i use a tone called dog bark which came with my rom
maybe cyberbob have one
and i never claimed that wma was bad
just that wav files need not be that big in size if one had to make due with them one could limit their size and not suffer
much in the way of quality when it came to ringtones
Hi guys
Does anyone know if there is a limitation to what you can have as a ringtone?
I have done what *seems* right, it even plays on media player on the M1000 but I cannot get the wav to load in the "Add Ring Tone" section.
Does the file have to be some obscure wav format or no longer than say 20 seconds etc?
Has anyone come across this problem as well?
Cheers
Ben
it have to be good old std wav which is called PCM
not sure if there are any length issues
try
looking if it shows up in sounds and notifications
or make sure the file is places in windows or windows\rings or something like that
Ok - I have tried a standard PCM wav and it still doesnt like it! Also tried a short 1 second one and that doesnt work!
Confused? I am!!!
did you put it in windows ?
did you put it in windows/rings ?
did you try and see if you could choose it under sound and notifications insted there you can choose both phone rings and others
add ring tones are mainly used for adding wma's
I have made a few of my own WAVs using SoundForge and then exported them to the Jam. However the Jam alarms are like 7Kb and mine (of roughly same length) are almost 1MB!
Anybody know why that is - or how one can change that?
hello skagen i think wav files are really big pity that the OS only supports this for it's system sounds. you may want to try and lower the bit rate and maybe make your sound file mono to keep the size down.
They need to be WAV though. I am making the rings and then relacing the in-bulit ones with my own wAV of same name eg "Alarm 1" etc.
using soundforge...save the wav files @ Bit rate: 176kbps, Audio sample size: 16bit, Audio sample rate: 11khz, mono.
for smaller files like the xda default ringtone
save as wma files @ Bit rate: 32kbps, Audio sample size: 16bit, Audio sample rate: 44khz, mono
aside that, you have to cut the low freq in order not to damage the speaker.
I don't think you have to rename as Alarm1 as long as it is WAV the ppc I think can deal with it. personally for tones I use WMA for system sounds (alerts, reminders) I leave them alone and maybe have a WAV or two for SMS and MMS alerts.
Jojo - what frequency is best to use for the highpass filter then? I didnt realise this needed to be done - aaarrgh.
I have about 40 ringtones that I will need to batch process.....
Whilst awaiting your reply I am going to see whether I can get the speaker spec for the JAM and post it here.
Kind Regards,
Marc
is there anyway of changing the sms tone to something that isnt the standard boring ones in the list - like an mp3 or wav file?
Copy your .wav file to /windows
Then go to Settings, Sounds & Notifications
Click on the Notifications tab at the bottom.
Under Event drop down choose the event you want to change the sound to.
I personally never had luck getting mp3's to work for notifications. Only wav files.
Good luck.
what is the settings you all use for this to work with wav? I have converted a ringtone to wav and saved it at 8k 41000 to make the file as small as possible. and its not playing. it plays in media player but wont play as a sms tone.
Yeah, I couldnt get it to work eitherand I used quite a few different formats. Have managed to get ring tones installed no problem, jus the sms tones I cant seem to add to.....
Am using an O2 XDA Mini S, default ROM (with a few registry hacks and apps installed)
Any help is appreciated
they have to be 16 bit 44khz wav files to work as sms tones. use the excellent (free)audacity audio editor to convert
dmonik said:
they have to be 16 bit 44khz wav files to work as sms tones. use the excellent (free)audacity audio editor to convert
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will try that. i might have missed that setting.
Is there anyway to change the sms alert sound to for example personal mp3 ?
thanks for the help !
Curious
ps. GREAT FORUM
Curious Jack said:
Is there anyway to change the sms alert sound to for example personal mp3 ?
thanks for the help !
Curious
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Cant be mp3, has to be 'wav' just insert into windows folder and select in notifications, bobs your uncle its done..
thanks killabeezz
mp3-wav
ok i know its a dumb one but any idea how i can change mp3 files to .wav files ?????? i got a particular mp3 i want for sms????? cheers guys
proconsul said:
ok i know its a dumb one but any idea how i can change mp3 files to .wav files ?????? i got a particular mp3 i want for sms????? cheers guys
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Search google for a mp3-wav converter, cant remember which one i use but will update post when i get home and check.
Remember also a mp3 song converted to wav form will be a very BIG file, better to sample just a small ( very small ) section of the track and then use this for sms notifications.
There is a program called phonealarm that you can use, you can choose any sound you like for SMS.
First post....hello everybody.
killabeezz said:
Remember also a mp3 song converted to wav form will be a very BIG file, better to sample just a small ( very small ) section of the track and then use this for sms notifications.
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I use Audacity (free) to edit MP3 first by selecting the part of the song or clip I want to use as a alert. Then you can remove one channel (right or left) which cuts down the size quite a bit. As far as I know all PPC speakers are MONO so there is no need for a stereo ring-tone or SMS alert. You can also change the bit rate but don't go to low or your sound will be distorted. Audacity also allows you to adjust the volume of the output alert so you can have a nice loud sound and attract allot of attention when you pull your phone out. LOL.
Also Remember that a SMS alert is (I think) shorter than a ring tone alert. (ring tone alert is between 30 and 35 seconds) I wont get my 8525 till Monday but I have a E-TEN M600 and I believe the length of the SMS is the same as the 8525/Tytn.
One thing to note: you can mute a ring-tone when someone calls but I have not found a way to mute or stop a SMS alert when it comes in.
After you have the perfect RT/SMS alert as a MP3 find a free app out there that will convert it to a .wav. I use a app that came with Nero.
You can also try Ringo. This is a app that will allow you to assign a different sound to any incoming sms message.
ie. I get a traffic update via SMS everyday before I go to work and I assigned the sound of tires screeching and horns blowing impatiently as my SMS traffic alert.