Database Users

Some JASJAR tips and tricks

I've been playing with the registry of my JASJAR and have found a few tips I will share.
WM5 built in GPS control panel
For some reason this is not active in the settings of the JASJAR. To make it visible do the following:
Fire up a registry editor
Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MASCHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings
Delete the DWORD marked "hide"
Add a DWORD called "Group" and give it the value of "2" (dec)
The GPS panel will now show up in your connection settings.
MS Voice Command activation from BT headset
Now this one is sweet and makes the JASJAR the daddy for voice commands.
Install Voice Command to the default location.
Fire up a registry editor
Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand
Modify the string marked "path" from the default \Windows\SDDialer.exe to \Program Files\Voice Command\VoiceCMD.exe
Now, when you press your BT headset connect button, MS Voice command will fire up and take commands through the headset. It's reponses will be played through the headset too.
Hope you like them.

JASJAR rom
Is the JASJAR rom upgradable traditoonaly (SD upgrade, USB method? )?
Assuming you have wwe version could you dump the rom and upload it?
I am planning to buy a Tawiwanies JASJAR and change to English version can somebody help with tips / tools etc ?

THx, great peace of register changing !!! :lol:

Update:
It would appear that voice command doesn't operate when the device is in closed mode. Works fine in PDA mode, or mini laptop mode.
Not sure why at this point as it gives the *bing-bong* sound to indicate it's waiting for a command, but nothing happens.
Any ideas?

It appears that the GPS control panel was hidden because it does actually not work.
I paired my Emtac BT GPS with my JasJar and selected "outgoing com port 4". TomTom7 only lists com7 so I am trying to use the GPS control panel to connect the GPS com4 to Com7 but TomTom continues to indicate NO GPS. As I can not select com4 in TT5, I am unable to use TT5! Any suggestions are VERY WELCOME.
I also tried other software GPSDash2 and have the same results. This software does allow me to select com4 and provides me with a connection. When I select com7, I get nothing.
Has anybody tried this? Any suggestions?

GPS Dash works for me in WiFiFoFum.
Can't get anythng to work in TomTom though.

Navman
Well I have navman Smart ST, and couldnt even get it to install in order to test it. There goes a $700 AUD investment, cant even use it, bugger not that it worked well anyway with WM2003SE, it worked fine on the original WM2003, but not any further releases. Anybody want a NAVMAN product?

rilot said:
MS Voice Command activation from BT headset
Now this one is sweet and makes the JASJAR the daddy for voice commands.
Install Voice Command to the default location.
Fire up a registry editor
Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand
Modify the string marked "path" from the default \Windows\SDDialer.exe to \Program Files\Voice Command\VoiceCMD.exe
Now, when you press your BT headset connect button, MS Voice command will fire up and take commands through the headset. It's reponses will be played through the headset too.
Hope you like them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This works excellent. Thank you. But you have to give the voice commands directly to the device. The headset doesn't pick up the voice commands and it starts working as sonn as the call has been established. Any idea on how to give the voice commands through the headset? I've also tried with the carkit and same problem. Both on handsfree profile by the way.

Hmmm. My voice commands are given through the headset.
Pretty sure of this.

That is strange. I guess I'll have to hard reset the system then. Damn!

Voice command activation definately works with the BT800 (cept for the closed case issue) . Gotta wait for the beep. Thanks for the tip Rilot.

it's possibly due to my bt headset and car kit not very compatible. After some reading, I've found the following post and modified the registry with the the following string. Now it's working 100%, voice commands through BT headset included.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Device\000e6d8ef421\Services]
delete the key that holds the values for the "handsfree profile".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28033&highlight=

I wonder, is there any reason we cannot dumb the voice dial program and its files and use it with say the PPC 6600 or Blue Angel devices so we can get voice dail over bluetooth?

This works great with jasjar and voice command (as long as device is not closed). It even sends MP3 through the bt head set (not very good audio tho) as long as you initiate wmp10 via voice command. Just start voice command and say "Play anything".
The Other Voice dial program works well also.

Hi guys
rilot >> thanks for the tips
guys i need some help with a small aspect of VC,
When you receive an incoming call voice command will announce the call on your device is there anyway to get this sound transferred to the headset (bt800)
Using the reg edit info provided by rilot we can transfer music and use the headset to activate VC, i was just hoping if theres a way around getting the caller announcement to sound on the headset as well
your thoughts??
thanks

Delete the DWORD marked "hide"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please may I have that default setting? I would like to come back to it.
thx!

Have a look at the thread below it will highlight what to change (and therefore what to put it back to - reverse engineering)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28386&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Mike

asci said:
Delete the DWORD marked "hide"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please may I have that default setting? I would like to come back to it.
thx!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
On my (unmodified) Jasjar the DWORD Hide is set to a value of 1.
HTH,
Brett

rilot said:
Update:
It would appear that voice command doesn't operate when the device is in closed mode. Works fine in PDA mode, or mini laptop mode.
Not sure why at this point as it gives the *bing-bong* sound to indicate it's waiting for a command, but nothing happens.
Any ideas?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The only way to keep get the BT voice command work even if the device is closed is to set the device not to be switched off "start / settings / system / power / advanced / uncheck turn off device if not used for "
To avoid being left with a flat battery you have to then tap backlight and set it to turn off backlight if device is not used for 30 seconds.
Then tap brightness and set it to the minimum level on battery.
If you do these settings you will never face any problem with voice dial via BT even if the device is closed.
Regards,

khaledelfeki said:
rilot said:
Update:
It would appear that voice command doesn't operate when the device is in closed mode. Works fine in PDA mode, or mini laptop mode.
Not sure why at this point as it gives the *bing-bong* sound to indicate it's waiting for a command, but nothing happens.
Any ideas?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The only way to keep get the BT voice command work even if the device is closed is to set the device not to be switched off "start / settings / system / power / advanced / uncheck turn off device if not used for "
To avoid being left with a flat battery you have to then tap backlight and set it to turn off backlight if device is not used for 30 seconds.
Then tap brightness and set it to the minimum level on battery.
If you do these settings you will never face any problem with voice dial via BT even if the device is closed.
Regards,
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sounded good, but my voice command still does not work with device closed. Can hear the voice command prompt, but no response.....

Make your BT Headset work with MS Voice Command!

I'm a new member here - found this place last night... But, I have been frustrated using my BT Headset with my phone (a Cingular (HTC Wizard) 8125) - when I try to use it, it defaults to using the built in Voice Dialer software. This of course meant that I had to program all the commands into the phone so it would recognize my voice. Well, after looking through the forums here, I realized that a registry hack would probably fix the problem, and so I went searching...
Anyway, I'm sure that you are all interested in the trials and tribulations I've been having with my phone, but to make this shorter - I found the hack to make voice command work with any BT Headset.
Here it is:
Using Total Commander, navigate to the Registry, and go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand. Change the value in the PATH to \Program Files\Voice Command\voicecmd.exe (the original is \Windows\sddialer.exe).
Now, when you push the button on your BT headset, Voice Command will activate instead of the Voice Dialer.
P.S: I don't know why it has "VoiceCommand" under the OEM Software section like that.
(ADDENDUM: Seems that this info is out there on the web too - just couldn't find it myself - anyway, it's the same info I just posted here... Someone beat me to it and I just had to "find" it the hard way)
Black-Wolf

Good info -- and definitely worth doing. Works beautifully. As you noted, it IS out there too -- mentioned in various spots here, and on HowardForums.com.
Good reference too is to search for "Darryl Burling" -- a MS employee now I believe -- former MS MVP and software developer. He's got a freely downloadable CAB called "VoiceEnable" that handles this nicely.
Also - while you're at it: good to remove "sddaemon" from your startup folder - no longer any need for it!

works on BA also?
this is for MS voice commander 1.5? my unit info is below, would it work same way?
going to talke a look at darryl's site too.
lastly, is darryl's cab same MS VC or very similar?
thanks all helpful info

Daryl's cab file
I have tried and tried to register for his site so I can download the cab file. After 5 tries I gave up. Can someone post the cab file.

Re: Daryl's cab file
jmgbonds said:
I have tried and tried to register for his site so I can download the cab file. After 5 tries I gave up. Can someone post the cab file.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You dont have to register just go to downloads and scroll down the page.
http://www.burling.co.nz/downloads.aspx

Voice Command over a Bluetooth Headset - No go after hack
newbie here!
I am trying to get my BT Headset button to activate Voice Command and am failing.
I have completed the registry hack described here:
Using Total Command I found \\registry\HKLM\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand (Default Value: \Windows\SDDialer.exe) and modified the value to \Program Files\Voice Command\voicecmd.exe This is the default location when Voice Command is installed to the main memory.
I waited a while, performed a soft reset, and I can not get the button on the headset to function (i.e. activate Voice Command). I use a Plantronics 510 and have the Cingular 8125 with the Stock ROM on it. I also have a couple of applications on the device loaded (Total Commander, Battery Pack Pro and an employers IM client)
I did try to download and run the CAB for Voice Enable (This is the hack I found on the forum). However this CAB did not seem to do anything obvious. Nor did it help with activating Voice Command.
Can anyone offer me some thoughts on this? I appreciate the help VERY much.

This hack may work on others devices, but you cannot find this path in the treo 700w to make voice command work over bt. Voice command is installed by default when you buy the device. Has anyone been able to to find the reg. entry on a treo 700w for the vc dialing hack to dial over bt (SDDialer path), or does anyone know of a reg editor that will let you search the reg. on wm5?
Thank You.

Re: Voice Command over a Bluetooth Headset - No go after hac
dgeisler said:
newbie here!
I am trying to get my BT Headset button to activate Voice Command and am failing.
I have completed the registry hack described here:
Using Total Command I found \\registry\HKLM\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand (Default Value: \Windows\SDDialer.exe) and modified the value to \Program Files\Voice Command\voicecmd.exe This is the default location when Voice Command is installed to the main memory.
I waited a while, performed a soft reset, and I can not get the button on the headset to function (i.e. activate Voice Command). I use a Plantronics 510 and have the Cingular 8125 with the Stock ROM on it. I also have a couple of applications on the device loaded (Total Commander, Battery Pack Pro and an employers IM client)
I did try to download and run the CAB for Voice Enable (This is the hack I found on the forum). However this CAB did not seem to do anything obvious. Nor did it help with activating Voice Command.
Can anyone offer me some thoughts on this? I appreciate the help VERY much.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
not familiar with your unit but do you have your headset working properly? completely? i don't know if this will help you but try finding the latest BT stack. also, if you are running wm5, i believe you are using a MS BT stack. don't quote me on that. but my reading has led me to believe that MS stack is not the best. your buttons are BT profile based. look for AVRCP profile. i'm no expert but these are things i had to update for my stereo BT headset (pulsar)
good luck,
woody

Re: Voice Command over a Bluetooth Headset - No go after hac
dgeisler said:
newbie here!
I am trying to get my BT Headset button to activate Voice Command and am failing.
I have completed the registry hack described here:
Using Total Command I found \\registry\HKLM\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand (Default Value: \Windows\SDDialer.exe) and modified the value to \Program Files\Voice Command\voicecmd.exe This is the default location when Voice Command is installed to the main memory.
I waited a while, performed a soft reset, and I can not get the button on the headset to function (i.e. activate Voice Command). I use a Plantronics 510 and have the Cingular 8125 with the Stock ROM on it. I also have a couple of applications on the device loaded (Total Commander, Battery Pack Pro and an employers IM client)
I did try to download and run the CAB for Voice Enable (This is the hack I found on the forum). However this CAB did not seem to do anything obvious. Nor did it help with activating Voice Command.
Can anyone offer me some thoughts on this? I appreciate the help VERY much.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am seeing the same thing after upgrading from Summiters test 2.3 rom to the official cingular rom.

Head set and Voice Dialer
Hi Guys,
I have looked at the thread above, but have not been able to find the registry setting in OEM...
Instead it is in a microsoft directory (\\\registry\hklm\software\Microsoft\voice Command\
Do you know where I need to change the parameter?
All I would like to do is to control voice commander via the Bluetooth unit.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Suki said:
Hi Guys,
I have looked at the thread above, but have not been able to find the registry setting in OEM...
Instead it is in a microsoft directory (\\\registry\hklm\software\Microsoft\voice Command\
Do you know where I need to change the parameter?
All I would like to do is to control voice commander via the Bluetooth unit.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have the same problem can only find: registry\hklm\software\Microsoft\voice Command\
So what and were do I change?

Quick app request: Enabling BT Voice Command for all

I'm familiar with developing Windows apps (Win32/MFC) but I haven't worked with that stuff for years and I also am not familiar with Windows CE.
I'm looking for someone to help try and put together an app to do the following:
* Call the app BTAudioOff.exe
* Call the app BTAudioOn.exe
* Call the app VoiceCmd.exe
The BTAudio apps are the ones posted by someone on here and VoiceCMD is the executable from Microsoft's VC.
I did some testing and if I run these apps in this order Voice Command over BT works every single time with no issues and with excellent clarity since you are manually opening the BT audio gateway and calling VC.
I was looking to create a batch or script file but couldn't find if Windows CE supports it. By having one .exe or script that runs them in this order, we can have the BT button launch that app (registry change) which in turn would allow MS VC to be used over BT on all BT headsets repeatedly.
I'm doing this for myself and others in the community who are looking for this solution. I'd really appreciate any help people could provide on this.
Thanks.

Check out VJVolubilis.
It will be updated to script in the Voice Command registry hack, but if you do the voice command registry hack yourself, just opening the Audio gateway (-AGon) works for most of us.
V

vijay555 said:
Check out VJVolubilis.
It will be updated to script in the Voice Command registry hack, but if you do the voice command registry hack yourself, just opening the Audio gateway (-AGon) works for most of us.
V
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey Vijay, nice website and tools. Looks nice.
AGON would work but how do I execute VoiceCMD.exe from the same line.
i.e. I want to have a single executable or command that will both turn on the audio gateway AND run Voicecommand.
Can your application accept a parameter for an executable to run???
i.e.
vjvolubilis.exe -agon voicecmd.exe
This would turn on the audio gateway and then execute voicecommand.
Not sure if it's coming across clearly what I want to do.

hopfully someone will know how to get this idea rolling.
- Jason

I'm pledged to a round of new updates to VJVolubilis that will hopefully address some of the VC stuff; if you read through the VJVolubilis thread you'll see what they're on about.
However, for now, use MortScript. It's excellent for scripting anything.
V

AWESOME. I have a solution working using MortScript. Need to test it a little bit and then I'll post it..as easy as pie!!

Crap...ran across a problem. When I run the MortScript manually through either Resco Explorer/File Manager it opens the BT audio and brings up VoiceCommand every single time.
However when I changed the registery so that instead of pointing to voicecmd.exe it points to my .mscr script it doesn't seem to work and I can't understand why.
I think it probably has to do with the Cyberon software opening closing the BT channel before launching the exe.
Hmmmmm....working on it still...any tips would be appreciated.

Well I give up for now. It seems hitting the BT headset button launches a mini Cyberon invisible app that sets up the BT audio gateway and then launches what's referred to in the registry
For whatever reason no matter what I tried, I couldn't get it to run a .mscr script either by directly pointing to the script or pointing to MortScript.exe and passing the script as a command line parameter.
All in all, it works 100% when you run the .mscr manually but getting it to execute through the BT headset button thing is much more difficult than I had anticipated.
Hopefully somoene can help resolve this on here and/or this will be resolved with MS Voice Command 2.0 if it ever comes out.

mobilehavoc said:
However when I changed the registery so that instead of pointing to voicecmd.exe it points to my .mscr script it doesn't seem to work and I can't understand why.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Registry might not point to something except an ".exe"...
You may use the "autorun" function of MortScript
(copy "Autorun.exe" from the "Windows" folder to the folder where your script is located and rename it the same as the script, e.c. "myscript.mscr" and "myscript.exe")

Thanks Vlad! It worked...need to do some more testing with a BT headset that was having trouble with it tonight.
Thanks though.

Where there is a will there is a way!!!
Can't wait to see if you can fix this mobilehavoc!
See you on the forums!
This will make lives easier, guranteed!
Cheers! If you were closer I'd buy you a beer, heck a case!

Where there is a will there is a way!!!
Can't wait to see if you can fix this mobilehavoc!
See you on the forums!
This will make lives easier, guranteed!
Cheers! If you were closer I'd buy you a beer, heck a case!

this sounds promising.
I do not have any issues with triggering VC via my BT headset
I DO have issues with triggering VC via my Nokia BT carkit (after a while VC just does not react anymore)

Well after much testing and whatnot, it is not currently possible to do...it's a problem with voice command as everyone knows...specifically that since it wasn't designed for BT, it does NOT close the audio gateway so the next time you press the button on your BT headset, it does not respond.
This works with certain headsets like the HS850 because for whatever reason, a subsequent press of the BT headset button turns the audio gateway off and then the next one turns it on. This is why certain headsets work but require 2 presses to work.
The ONLY way to get this to work currently is to have an app (MortScript almost did it) that can wait until VoiceCmd has executed and completed, then close the audio gateway. Problem with that is VoiceCmd may lead to a phone call or god knows what else so it's tricky.
I'm sure there's a way to do it...in the end, again...ALL THAT IS NEEDED is for some way to close the BT audio gateway once VoiceCmd finishes...then all will be right with the world. I give up because I don't have the expertise or time and my HS850 works fine with it...
Hopefully someone else can give it a shot sometime.

Voice Commander Reg Hack now Plays music Through Bluetooth

I used the following directions to use MS Voice Commander instead of the SDDialer.exe. Now the voice commander doesnt work but I can hear all my phones audio through my Bluetooth. I think I like it and am going to keep it like that.
Copy BTAGExtModule.dll to windows folder of pocket pc
Under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway
Edit "BTAGExtModule from "BTAGExt.dll" to BTAGExtModule.dll"
If these are not already there:
Add new dword name it "LaunchAPEnable" data should be 1
Ok now under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\
If it is not already there create a new Key named "VoiceCommand"
Under VoiceCommand
Create new Dword Named "VoiceCmdEnable" data value 0
Create new Dword Named "LaunchAPEnable" data value 1
Create new String Value Named "Path" with string "\Program Files\Voice Command\voicecmd.exe"
Now soft reset.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what part doesnt allow this not work for the wizard?

?
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS MEANS..CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME..I JUST BOUGHT THE MDA..TRYING TO MSKE IT LOOK GOOD

...he meant: by accident he found a way to keep audio connect to Bluetooth headphone to be used b.e. as handsfree/wireless mediaplayerreceiver.
I myself use Vjvolubilis, with many thanks to VIJAY555.

HOW DO I DO THIS

lord, you did that the hard way.
Change the sddialer.exe value to the voice command executable value.
Press the bt headset button.
You're done.
All audio gets routed over the headset now. 8)

GldRush98 said:
lord, you did that the hard way.
Change the sddialer.exe value to the voice command executable value.
Press the bt headset button.
You're done.
All audio gets routed over the headset now. 8)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't mean to switch gears on you but looks like you solved this one. While using my bluetooth headset (cables unlimited BTH-A6a1) when i push the "MFB" once it lauches the Voice speed dial program on my 8125. I have MS voice command installed, is there a way to switch it so the MS VC launches instead?

I can't make it working on my MDA pro with Qtek 9000 rom. Any idea?

...try another thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=340573#340573

Bluetooth dialling using headset and MS Voice Command 1.6

folks,
I have an Orange M700 stock ROM, Motorola BT headset and Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 installed.
Has anyone managed to get the button on the BT headset to activate Voice Command? I can use the headset in calls but not initiate Voice Command.
This used to work just fine with my Prophet.
I tried unbinding the Voice Dial key on the handset, hoping that might help but no.
Any suggestions gratefully received!

I should add that I have search hi and lo and cannot find a similar case for the Trinity.
I'm not interested in messing with BT settings- just want try and configure VC 1.6 to work!

I had the same problem activating the speed dial from BT headset after flashing mUn Rom. but after a lot of hard search, I managed to find the solution in registry:
1. Go to: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway
2. Change the string value called "BTAGExtModule" from "OEMAGW.dll" to "BTAGExt.dll".
3. SoftReset.
It work with Cyberon Voice Speed Dial, but I have not tried it with MS Voice Command.....
Good luck.

thanks shayd,
I'll take a look and see if it works!
If it does I'll be buying you a drink ;-)

so I opened up the setup.xml file for VC 1.6 and found that the equivalent file for VC 1.6 :
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway
BTAGExtModule =vcbthag.dll
So maybe if I change the vcbthag.dll to BTAGExt.dll it may work- but I need to confirm BTAGExt.dll exists....
I suspect this file might be part of the cyberon install.

ah got it working with another solution- my BT button now opens VC- I'm not convinced it's using the headphone mic to listen to commands though.
These keys did the trick- though I manually edited using a reg editor.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand]
"LaunchAPEnable"=dword:00000001
"VoiceCmdEnable"=dword:00000000
"Path"="\\Program Files\\Voice Command\\voicecmd.exe"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway]
"Capability"=dword:00000025
"BTAGExtModule"="BTAGExtModule.dll"
"SupportCLI"=dword:00000000
Basically I had to Create new the String Value Named "Path" with string "\Program Files\Voice Command\voicecmd.exe" and change HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway
BTAGExtModule =vcbthag.dll to BTAGExtModule.dll
thaks for your help shayd!

I am using an O2 Blue headset, and it operates voice command flawlessly.
The problem I have is that it does not replay the MS voice command voice through the headset, but via the trinity speaker. I have adjusted the settings, but it does not change.
Does the MS voice come through your headsets?

You guys might find a solution here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=281977